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Postby christyarmell » April 17th, 2008, 10:25 pm

chupon106 wrote:
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chupon106 wrote:i been in austin about 6 months now , homes, but i still visit the valle at least once every 1 or 2 months. the tri city bombers are definitely an active gang in the valle, ese. they murdered those 6 texas chicano brotherhoods in that drug robbery in edinburg in 2003 n they murdered those 4 woman who they thought were witnesses in donna in 2002. shit, 1 of those fools is name "bones", he's my homegirls cousin. that motherf-cker on death row, now. 13 vatos got arrested for that 2003 massacre in edinburg. 12 were tri city bombers n 1 was a VALLUCO. you dont believe me, check this out.

http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/garzarobert.htm

tri city bombers definitely puts it down, homes. this vato i know name frankie, he was a texas chicano brotherhood, barely 18 years old, got murdered last month in pharr. i heard it was gang related. not sure which gang though but since the tri city bombers are one of their main rivals, i suspect it was them. so yeah, homie, tcb still putting it down.


The guy you are talking about was a TCB member. You can be a Valluco and be part of another gang as well. It is my understanding that Valluco is not a street gang, and many "graduated" to major street gangs. Humberto Garza " Gallo" and Jorge "choche" Martinez were Valluco before become TCB>


You can a be a Valluco and be part of a street gang simultaneously just like any other prison gang. The Vallucos, that's jail sh-t, there a prison gang/tango. The Tri City Bombers are a street gang. They have nothing to do with each other. I wasn't aware those guys were a part of both but they did not "graduate" to TCB and drop their Valluco affiliation. That's not how it works.


So they remain Vallucos and TCB at the same time?
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Postby chupon106 » April 17th, 2008, 10:38 pm

christyarmell wrote:
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chupon106 wrote:i been in austin about 6 months now , homes, but i still visit the valle at least once every 1 or 2 months. the tri city bombers are definitely an active gang in the valle, ese. they murdered those 6 texas chicano brotherhoods in that drug robbery in edinburg in 2003 n they murdered those 4 woman who they thought were witnesses in donna in 2002. shit, 1 of those fools is name "bones", he's my homegirls cousin. that motherf-cker on death row, now. 13 vatos got arrested for that 2003 massacre in edinburg. 12 were tri city bombers n 1 was a VALLUCO. you dont believe me, check this out.

http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/garzarobert.htm

tri city bombers definitely puts it down, homes. this vato i know name frankie, he was a texas chicano brotherhood, barely 18 years old, got murdered last month in pharr. i heard it was gang related. not sure which gang though but since the tri city bombers are one of their main rivals, i suspect it was them. so yeah, homie, tcb still putting it down.


The guy you are talking about was a TCB member. You can be a Valluco and be part of another gang as well. It is my understanding that Valluco is not a street gang, and many "graduated" to major street gangs. Humberto Garza " Gallo" and Jorge "choche" Martinez were Valluco before become TCB>


You can a be a Valluco and be part of a street gang simultaneously just like any other prison gang. The Vallucos, that's jail sh-t, there a prison gang/tango. The Tri City Bombers are a street gang. They have nothing to do with each other. I wasn't aware those guys were a part of both but they did not "graduate" to TCB and drop their Valluco affiliation. That's not how it works.


So they remain Vallucos and TCB at the same time?


Yes.
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Postby christyarmell » April 18th, 2008, 11:55 am

chupon106 wrote:
christyarmell wrote:
chupon106 wrote:
christyarmell wrote:
chupon106 wrote:i been in austin about 6 months now , homes, but i still visit the valle at least once every 1 or 2 months. the tri city bombers are definitely an active gang in the valle, ese. they murdered those 6 texas chicano brotherhoods in that drug robbery in edinburg in 2003 n they murdered those 4 woman who they thought were witnesses in donna in 2002. shit, 1 of those fools is name "bones", he's my homegirls cousin. that motherf-cker on death row, now. 13 vatos got arrested for that 2003 massacre in edinburg. 12 were tri city bombers n 1 was a VALLUCO. you dont believe me, check this out.

http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/garzarobert.htm

tri city bombers definitely puts it down, homes. this vato i know name frankie, he was a texas chicano brotherhood, barely 18 years old, got murdered last month in pharr. i heard it was gang related. not sure which gang though but since the tri city bombers are one of their main rivals, i suspect it was them. so yeah, homie, tcb still putting it down.


The guy you are talking about was a TCB member. You can be a Valluco and be part of another gang as well. It is my understanding that Valluco is not a street gang, and many "graduated" to major street gangs. Humberto Garza " Gallo" and Jorge "choche" Martinez were Valluco before become TCB>


Ok, thank you :)

You can a be a Valluco and be part of a street gang simultaneously just like any other prison gang. The Vallucos, that's jail sh-t, there a prison gang/tango. The Tri City Bombers are a street gang. They have nothing to do with each other. I wasn't aware those guys were a part of both but they did not "graduate" to TCB and drop their Valluco affiliation. That's not how it works.


So they remain Vallucos and TCB at the same time?


Yes.
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Postby NewMission » April 24th, 2008, 10:30 am

[quote="christyarmell"][quote="chupon106"][quote="christyarmell"][quote="chupon106"]i been in austin about 6 months now , homes, but i still visit the valle at least once every 1 or 2 months. the tri city bombers are definitely an active gang in the valle, ese. they murdered those 6 texas chicano brotherhoods in that drug robbery in edinburg in 2003 n they murdered those 4 woman who they thought were witnesses in donna in 2002. shit, 1 of those fools is name "bones", he's my homegirls cousin. that motherf-cker on death row, now. 13 vatos got arrested for that 2003 massacre in edinburg. 12 were tri city bombers n 1 was a VALLUCO. you dont believe me, check this out.

http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/garzarobert.htm

tri city bombers definitely puts it down, homes. this vato i know name frankie, he was a texas chicano brotherhood, barely 18 years old, got murdered last month in pharr. i heard it was gang related. not sure which gang though but since the tri city bombers are one of their main rivals, i suspect it was them. so yeah, homie, tcb still putting it down.[/quote]

The guy you are talking about was a TCB member. You can be a Valluco and be part of another gang as well. It is my understanding that Valluco is not a street gang, and many "graduated" to major street gangs. Humberto Garza " Gallo" and Jorge "choche" Martinez were Valluco before become TCB>[/quote]

You can a be a Valluco and be part of a street gang simultaneously just like any other prison gang. The Vallucos, that's jail sh-t, there a prison gang/tango. The Tri City Bombers are a street gang. They have nothing to do with each other. I wasn't aware those guys were a part of both but they did not "graduate" to TCB and drop their Valluco affiliation. That's not how it works.[/quote]

So they remain Vallucos and TCB at the same time?[/quote]



Yes, But it is Strictly Prison(Vallucos). It is basically the same thing as Southern Cali(Your from a Varrio at the same time bieng a Sureno)
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Postby chupon106 » April 27th, 2008, 10:38 am

Your right, Mission but like most other prison gangs, it spills out onto the streets. The Vallucos got a heavy presence on the streets throughout the RGV. The beef with the Texas Syndicate is active on the streets. Cameron county is where it's really crackin. A Cuerno I met said he was locked up in Hidalgo county jail and even though the TS and Vallucos were rivals, there was a certain amount of respect between them. I spent a couple of nights in Hidalgo county jail but not enough time to really know what's up. The same vato said he was trippin cuz he got locked up in Carrizales (CC jail) and he got jumped by some Vallucos. There's been a few large scale riots in Carrizales and a few murders on the streets as well.
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Postby christyarmell » April 28th, 2008, 10:23 pm

Thanks for clearing that up for me..!!
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Postby christyarmell » April 30th, 2008, 4:44 pm

4 condemned Texas prisoners lose appeals


By MICHAEL GRACZYK Associated Press Writer
© 2008 The Associated Press
HOUSTON — Four condemned prisoners lost appeals Wednesday before the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals, including a man identified as a leader of a gang authorities said was responsible for killing six men in a robbery-shooting spree in the Rio Grande Valley.
Humberto "Gallo" Garza, 34, acknowledged planning the robbery of a marijuana cache from two houses separated by a dirt driveway on the same property in Edinburg but denied being among the gunmen in the shooting that left six victims dead.
Garza, described as a leader in a gang known as the Tri-City Bombers, or "Bombitas," is one of three men on death row for involvement in the slayings. A fourth gang member was condemned for another shooting in 2002, four months before the Edinburg killings, that left four women dead.
In all, 13 men were indicted for the January 2003 massacre. The victims were identified as members of a rival gang, the Texas Chicano Brotherhood.
Others who moved closer to execution after being turned down by the court Wednesday were:
_Barney Ronald Fuller Jr., of Houston County in East Texas, convicted of the fatal shootings of a man and woman who were his neighbors.
_Chris Wayne Shuffield, of Bowie County in far northeast Texas, condemned for a fatal shooting and robbery.
_Rodrigo Hernandez, convicted of the rape-slaying of a San Antonio woman whose murder went unsolved for eight years.
In the Rio Grande Valley case, Garza in his appeal unsuccessfully raised 33 points of error from his 2005 trial on two counts of capital murder. Defense attorneys argued Garza at most was guilty of aggravated robbery. A jury found him guilty of one count of capital murder and one count of murder.
Among claims in his appeal were that he was subjected to unconstitutional double jeopardy, that jury instructions were improper, that his legal help was ineffective, that the judge was biased against him and that evidence didn't support the jury's verdict that Garza would be a future danger. The future danger question is posed to jurors deciding on a death sentence.
Evidence showed Garza's record included an attempted murder and burglary conviction that got him an 18-year prison sentence. He was paroled in April 2002 after serving 10 years. The Edinburg shootings occurred nine months later.
None of the prisoners who lost their appeals Wednesday has an execution date. They all can appeal to the federal courts.
Fuller, 49, is awaiting lethal injection for the 2003 shootings of Annette Copland, 39, and her husband, Nathan, 43, both of Lovelady. The couple's 14-year-old son also was wounded. The gunfire was the climax of escalating problems between the neighbors.
Fuller was arrested after a standoff with police. He pleaded guilty to capital murder and the jury decided he should be given the death sentence. Among his 44 points of trial error in his appeal, all rejected by the court, were claims that his trial court lacked authority to impose the death sentence because there was no jury verdict form finding him guilty.
Shuffield, 28, challenged the validity of his conviction and sentence for the 2001 shooting death of Lance Luke Walker, 36. He was shot at least three times and his truck was taken from his home. Shuffield confessed to the slaying. His defense at his trial was the charge should have been murder and not capital murder.
Hernandez, 34, was arrested in 2002, more than eight years after the body of Susan Verstegen was found stuffed into a 55-gallon drum behind a church in San Antonio.
Hernandez was about to be released from a Michigan prison when a then new law there required him to submit a DNA sample as a condition of his release. San Antonio police, using a national DNA database, matched his DNA to the Verstegen slaying. In his appeal, Hernandez challenged the validity of his conviction and sentence.


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/5742803.html
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Postby chupon106 » September 10th, 2008, 7:47 pm

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willihen wrote:If I remember right some Tangos and cities and nicknames as of a couple years ago.

San Antonio - San Anto (not too active)
Puro West/West Texas - (Abilene, Midland/Odessa, Amarillo, Lubbuck, Wichita Falls)
El Paso - EPT, Chuco Town
Houston - Houstones/ H-Town (most Organized Tangos, very active)
Dallas- D-Town
Ft.Worth- FunkyTown, Foritos, Foros (med. activity)
Austin- La Capirucha, A-town

"Puro Tango Blast"(Houston, Austin, Dallas, Ft. Worth) sometimes would call themselves the 4-horseman when they organized. These guys are loosely organized and things change daily. If they collectively got together they might give the MM of Texas, TS a run for their money. But they are all segmented up. SOme of those guys want to organize and take on MM of Texas, and TS.

I don't know about Tblasters from the Valley. That area like I said is like the wild west. I can tell you that El Paso gangs including Barrio Azteca and others don't really get along with any body. They are kinda on there own. I tend to think of that in the valley too. The valley is it's on area like El Paso with it's on culture seperate from the major texas cities and got their on politics going on. For that reason there might be tension between the valley and the main Texas cities.

But you might want to ask your big homie about that.


I might sound kinda ignorant since I'm the one who started this thread but as I recently found out the Vallucos are part of the Tango Blast. I had never heard of TB until a few months back. I heard alot about their various factios since then. TB is coming up fast and hard in the Texas prison system and on the streets. My homeboy from Brownsville just got out the pen 2 months ago. He did 2 years. He broke it down for me. Let me know what's crackin in the pinta. Vallucos puttin it down in the Texas prison system. I trust his word, he's a cien (100). A full fledged Valluco member. The highest rank amongst Vallucos. Tangos are different than famas (organized prison gangs like the TS & MM), aint no capitanes, nothing like that. It's like a street gang except there in prison. He also told me the Mexicanos and the blacks were beefin it hard in there. Dont know if he was referring to the Vallucos or the raza in general but from what I've heard Mexicanos and blacks got major beef in Texas prisons. Blacks still outnumber raza to this day but Mexican gangs been the dominant force since way back in the day. Anyways, Vallucos arent a part of the original 4 horseman. They came up later on. I havent spoke to my 'big homie' in awhile but that vato's too old to be affiliated with the Vallucos.



True shyt, TB has spread to the streets really fast, some of the little youngsters from my old n hood have been striking up the walls with the hood then PTB and they never been lockdown. Basically if your hispanic from Dallas and you hit the walls your gonna be blastin. I just recently ran into an old homie, he wasn't really a gangster at all, but he used to slang, he got busted and did 2 years. when I saw him at a bar he had just got out and claiming PTB to the fullest, throw up the star, like if it were a streetgang. Thats how it seems to go for people that got locked up that didn't bang, they go in regular come out gangsters(Or wanna be G's LoL). TB is still just fools staying down for each while thier locked up, it hasn't turned into an"Organization" and I dont think it ever will. people dont want to answer to no one except themselves,so it will never change.


Actually, I wouldnt be surprised at all if it did change into an organization. I'm not saying right now but eventually. Isnt that how all prison gangs start? Some loose affiliation of homies at first then about a decade later its all about the feria. Mission, have you heard of any internal beef with TB? They're getting deep as f-ck with the quickness. I wont be surprised when that happens either.
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