Then you dont know what you are talkin about. Russians were known to supply FARC and other rebel groups with guns, in exchange for cocaine. Russians were also known to sell a submarine to the cartels for easier transport of cocaine. So before you say anything else stupid, go and check facts.
I am fully aware of the drugs for guns deal the Russians had with the Colombians. It wasent something historical, it wasent a multi-hundred million dollar deals going down. Colombians get more arms from the Italians then the Russians. I read that, but still. Russians are not know traffickers of cocaine. The Russians route is not a popular one. http://www.essex.ac.uk/ecpr/standinggro ... Vol6_2.pdf
Just because you misunderstand me does not mean I "switch" opinions. This is more likely for yourself to do.
Russia exonomicaly is very much like South Africa. There are the rich, and the poor. No middle class. And I did not say that Moscow is a dirt poor city. Moscow is one of the most expensive cities in the world. If you can live a normal life in Moscow then you got it made.
Still, having a high percentage of heroin users is bad. You were gloating about it like Russians being heroin users is a good thing.
Perhaps.. I never met an Albanian so.. I dont know. But like you said of Russian organized crime, it inclueds many nationaleties, well.. so does Russia. The heroin using is ALOT more common in the west of Russia, in Siberia and other places its not if there even is heroin use. But see.. like you told me with Albanians look out for eachother, Russians (in Russia) are a little different in sense that they dont care about anyone but themselfes. Again, I say most, plenty of good people there aswell.
And I only count the pop. in ALBANIA not the other regions with Albanians in them. Again, I dont know to believe you or not, since you can be lying and Albanian heroin users can be larger than Russians so.. my answer above was theoretical "If Russia's heroin users percent is higher".
Like I said, if Albania did have a coke or heroin problem. I would very well know about it. I spend alot of time there, I have never heard of even a mention of coke or heroin use in Albania. Not from any family members or friends and people I have come in contact with. The amount of heroin just lying around Albania is amazing. In Gostivari alone which is in Illirida (Western Macedonia), an estimated 7 tonnes of heroin is stored there at all times. Marijuana consumption is visible in Albania among the youths. But then again, where isnt it? And Albania is a major if not dominate source for marijuana in Italy and Greece.
Ismail Lika is 1 man. I am sure that there were Russians who did not pay the italians, but I dont know the american-Russian groups that much to say which Russian did not pay.
Another fact is that Russians cleared Brighton of every drug seller/gangster in there. Can Albanians do it in the Bronx? and Brighton had maaaany small gangsters and criminals before they got taken care of.
No, if they could they would. And dont tell me that now in 2008 its different times, according to you, Albanians dont care what time it is because they are so craaazy and voilent.. yet Albanian kids still get beaten up by Blacks and Latins, I heard this from people even Albanians who live in the bronx and say that nowdays ABI get beat up.
lol im sure that Italians in the 70's payed every Albanian 25 grand to kill a guy, lol, I bet they payed 500$ and told him to get it over with soon. Albanians were that Italian's lap dogs. That is how they got to be in the US in the 1st place (back in the 70's not 90's).
Well the price of a hit taken out on someone is always around that number. Richard Kuklinski was given around the $75,000 at least, even for the small ones.
No I wont tell you that its 2008, times have changed. Albanians dont have to clear out the dealers in the Bronx, especially since the Bronx is the worst place in New York. Why would they do that? How would it benefit the Albanian criminals to start killing people? You makr it seem like Russians were killing every single dealer, they threatened most of them and they left. On occasion, they killed some of them
As for the Albanians getting beat up in the Bronx. That is a complete lie, you know it as well as I do. I just gave you a video of some blacks being gunned down by Albanians in the Bronx. That is not the only incident. On the other side, there hasent been a record or source claiming the death of an Albanian by any black or Latino.
Italian lapdogs? Albanians were in small numbers back then in the United States. They couldnt band together to the degree they do now. Even though some did, Ismail Lika. Why did you call Ismail Lika one man? He had his own organization, he was arrested alongside other members. The authorities claimed that Ismail Lika brought in $125 million worth of heroin during the time period of the investigation on him. He was probably the most wild gangster in New York. When he was in jail, he was seen frequently walking around naked. They called him the "three legged man". Albanians have always been feared in organized crime, even when we were not in numbers. Doing work for the Italians back then or even now does not mean you are their lapdog, like I said, we did it for money. If they forced us to work for them, which they didnt, then you could call them lapdogs. But Italians extorted Russians for doing nothing. They just said pay them because they are who they are and you are who you are. The Albanians would have never paid.
LOL fuckin right they dont call themselfes Russians, you should hear what Russians call them lol. But the fact is that they are almost the same race, different language? lol man if you can speak Russian, you can understand ukranian, not the whole language but many many words can be understood. Its like another dialect. Dont tell me about Russian-Ukranian differences.
So in that case, Mexicans should be under Italian organized crime... I mean Italian is very similar to the Spanish language.
So you are claiming that bus money is the barrier of the Bulgarians and Russians from doing business? that is why Bulgarians would go to Albanians? XD. You should be a comedian.
No, Bulgarians would go to Albanians because the Albanian mafia could cut them a better deal then the Russians or even Turks for that matter. The Albanians heroin base in Turkey is very powerful. There are 1,300,000 Albanians in Turkey and Ankara and Istanbul is a strong point for the Albanian mafia. So it comes down to why would they buy from the Russians when they could buy from the people flooding Europe? I mean, who would have a better quality and price? A person who has 3 tonnes or a person who has 300 kilos? Anyway the only reason you pick to fight about this is because Razbojnik posted how profitable Bulgaria is on the heroin map. The fact still remains, The Russians would have to drive between three countries to get there. The Albanians are already moving back and forth between there. Why would we leave you guys to have Bulgaria when we wont even let the Turks have Turkey all to themselves?
Faculiana you are full of sh*t. Ndegenerata does not control the same ammount of heroin as Albanians or Russians. They DONT have a powerbase in Iran lol, ESPECIALY not in Afghanistan. Ndegenerata has its cocaine heroin is not their field.
Like the song sais : "go to sleep bitch.."
The Italian mafia is active in the heroin market although they take a back seat to the Albanians, Turks and Soviets.