

Silencioso wrote:You know what I notice in those pictures? The musicians are always gypsy looking guys. Is that the only job gypsies can get in your country?


Dobre wrote:Silencioso wrote:You know what I notice in those pictures? The musicians are always gypsy looking guys. Is that the only job gypsies can get in your country?
A musician is a job by personal choice. Most Trubachi(the guys who play the trumpets and drums) are Gypsies and they usually go around looking for drunks that will pay them so they will follow him around while they play their music and collect his money(it's a custom in Macedonia during weddings for example when these guys are playing for you you'll slap a 1,000 MKD bill on their sweaty head, except sometimes drunk guys start losing themselves and think they're at a wedding).
Most Gypsies don't have legitimate jobs...as in the public, kind of um...major companies, foreign ones, that sector.
They have these boutiqutes selling counterfeit clothing from Turkey and the grey market in the shopping centers where they have tables and on them they sell cheap clothing during the day...
Other than that, they either beg for money, or they smuggle drugs, human beings, run beggar rackets or traffic organs.
Alot of Gypsies wear better clothing than most of my friends(original gold or platinum Dolce and Gabbana belts and all kinds of jewel, gold and diamond encrusted sparkly clothing) and they don't even work anywhere.
As for the musician guys, those who have those jobs get paid good because Gypsy music is extremely common throughout weddings and they have good musicians who can play coceks and horas, this is basically a movie how it was during the Communist party running things in 2002-2006 in Macedonia, this is in Veles, the beginning with the drunk guys and Gypsy trumpet band, btw there's subtitles
European report on Veles in 2009
Here's probably the best musicians of his kind in the entire world, a Roma from Stip, Macedonia
As for Gypsies, they're the lowest and low of the bunch. They have it worst than anyone in Europe. They live in African like standards and this is actually an extremely lucky place for them to end up living
Since most of them live in African slum like neighbourhoods with shacks having no canalization or plumbing system and no electrical structure. Also, police officers and Macedonians beat them on a regular basis, so they suffer alot of abuse and discrimination. And on top of that, Macedonia having no social welfare system means....pretty much the same as Macedonia's judicial system being in favour of Macedonians and even more so Macedonians with connections inside the judicial system - no hope.
As for Gypsies in my town...they're insane, these are the guys that have it good
They're usually accompanied by those drug traffickers in the background.

Grinch wrote:Its the same i Poland, they live in shitholes but almost allways dress nice.


Grinch wrote:Gypsies are everywere... Were the fu-- they are coming anyway?

Grinch wrote:Gypsies are everywere... Were the fu-- they are coming anyway?


Grinch wrote:Gypsies are everywere... Were the fu-- they are coming anyway?

CheGuevara wrote:Grinch wrote:Gypsies are everywere... Were the fu-- they are coming anyway?
originally from pakistan/india. they spread and grow, spread and grow. they're in europe and practically any country on the east you can think of. they have about 9-10 kids non stop even in this day and age and amount to street car washers if lucky. don't listen to the #%@&#%@ pathetic moron known as dickre.
well they've been pathetic in their own country (india) for thousands of years so what makes you think they'll be any more successful outside of it?
btw, alexander was albanian/greek. he has no connection to modern day fyromians who are slavs. the slavs didn't exist in the balkans back then. illyro-thracians/greeks inhabited macedon at that time. btw, skenderbeu was a descendent of alexander the great. notice the goat horns they both wore and the nickname "son of alexander" given to him by the empires of the time.

Grinch wrote:They are kinda pathetic,never amounted to nothing.



CheGuevara wrote:yes, i'm positive that book is not biased. i mean look at the guy's name. no way it could be biased. as for the award, that's about as 4th rate as you can get.
alexander was illyrian/greek. his father was a greek from macedon who also had part illyrian ancestry and he married an illyrian princess from epirus. alexander's army was for a large part illyrian and he never invaded illyria which just goes to show you what he is.
present day macedonians are bulgaro-serbs and a number of them have mixed with turks as well. they have next to nothing to do with the ancient macedonians. the albanians of macedonia are related to the ancient macedonians but the albanians of ilirida with last names like halili or jakupi or mehmetaj are descendents of turks or mixed with turks at some point of their family history.
here is the difference between slavs an albanians in the balkans during the ottoman empire. both the albanians (except malesors, northern albanians and south western kosovars) and slavs (except a few isolated regions) converted to islam to avoid taxes and to simple live a better life under the empire. albanians never took religion seriously which is why religious fighting never played a part in our entire history of religious differences. slavs take their orthodox religion seriously. although they gave that up during the empire, the second the empire lost power and retreated from their land, they converted back to orthodoxy. albanians didn't take re-conversion as seriously. now the slavs claim they never gave up their religion and never mixed with turks which is the biggest load of BS i've ever heard in my life. i know serbs darker than gypsies that go around claiming they're pure serbians because they're orthodox.
it's this simple fact that is the foundation of balkan slavic pride. a simple re-conversion is the center of all their pride and ideology. balkan slavs are the most pathetic people on earth. they're entire pridehood rests on a false book and a simple re-conversion in the late 19th century.

Grinch wrote:My grand-grandfather was supposed to bring the nearby caravan to the manor and make the gypsies sing and play and then feed them with wax food.


Grinch wrote:My grand-grandfather was supposed to bring the nearby caravan to the manor and make the gypsies sing and play and then feed them with wax food.


Dobre wrote:Slavs rule the world.

CheGuevara wrote:Dobre wrote:Slavs rule the world.
Slavs rule a good portion of the world's oil.***
i took the liberty of correcting you, knowing that you would see your mistake and correct the error yourself.
notice how you defend both slavs and bulgarians anytime someone has something bad to say about them but you have next to no knowledge on macedonian culture or history. your "macedonian" knowledge doesn't go past fyromian people. oh yeah, theres always alexander the great to falsely cheer you up when you realize your people amount to not even a spec in the world.

CheGuevara wrote:Dobre wrote:Slavs rule the world.
Slavs rule a good portion of the world's oil.***
i took the liberty of correcting you, knowing that you would see your mistake and correct the error yourself.
notice how you defend both slavs and bulgarians anytime someone has something bad to say about them but you have next to no knowledge on macedonian culture or history. your "macedonian" knowledge doesn't go past fyromian people. oh yeah, theres always alexander the great to falsely cheer you up when you realize your people amount to not even a spec in the world.


Dobre wrote:What I do care about individually and the person I look forward to cheer my up just thinking about him is my uncle. He's worth more than anyone you can name.

CheGuevara wrote:Dobre wrote:What I do care about individually and the person I look forward to cheer my up just thinking about him is my uncle. He's worth more than anyone you can name.
which is why your dad sits and gossips at tim hortens while working what was it again? plumbing?

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