Top 5 most organized syndicate

American organized crime groups included traditional groups such as La Cosa Nostra & the Italian Mafia to modern groups such as Black Mafia Family. Discuss the most organized criminal groups in the United States including gangs in Canada.
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby CheGuevara » July 9th, 2009, 12:31 am

thewestside wrote:Who the hell are you kidding? You've wipped out your little links and posted them in all the colors of the rainbow so many times.


i copied and pasted them from this forum stupid. i never saved them on microsoft. that's just fuckin' retarded. not to mention embarassing.

I don't like organized crime. I'm interested in it, as are many others. But we don't root for a certain group like you do.


which is why you get offended that i stated the c-c as a gang. because you don't like it. which is why you have made it your life career to study it. because you don't like it. if you had the balls, courage and brains, you would be one of them.

You can quote all the little historical facts you like. None of it even comes close to suggesting the Albanians are responsible for the formation of the Italian syndicates. This is simply a case of you overeaching.


i'm not over reaching a damn thing. personally, i don't care who founded them. albanians have influenced southern italian history and culture so much that they are practically albanians. that is all i am trying to say. i am proud of the fact that southern italians are the people who have influenced american culture so much. that's what im truly proud of. if you would take away sound from a movie about 1920 reggio calabria and 1999 kruja, albania. there would be no difference.
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby thewestside » July 9th, 2009, 1:09 am

CheGuevara wrote:i copied and pasted them from this forum stupid. i never saved them on microsoft. that's just fuckin' retarded. not to mention embarassing.


Johnny's two sources - forums and Google. Real serious researcher we have here!

which is why you get offended that i stated the c-c as a gang. because you don't like it. which is why you have made it your life career to study it. because you don't like it. if you had the balls, courage and brains, you would be one of them.


If you had called the Caruana-Cuntrera clan a "gang" by itself, I wouldn't have thought much of it. It's the fact that you do that while at the same time maintaining the Rudaj organization was a "sixth family." It's a perfect example of how you downplay other groups while you hype the Albanians.

albanians have influenced southern italian history and culture so much that they are practically albanians. that is all i am trying to say.


LOL! What a crock of revisionist history. And yes, Italians did have a big influence on America since they came en mass during the late 19th and early 20th century. Not Albanians, who didn't come until the late 20th century. Face it, your country and people's legacy is piss poor so now you're trying to feed off of others. Before we know it you'll be claiming all of Europe stemmed from Albania.
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby CheGuevara » July 9th, 2009, 6:36 pm

thewestside wrote:Johnny's two sources - forums and Google. Real serious researcher we have here!


yes, copying my own work and the world wide search engine of the world. hmmm, how unprofessional.

If you had called the Caruana-Cuntrera clan a "gang" by itself, I wouldn't have thought much of it. It's the fact that you do that while at the same time maintaining the Rudaj organization was a "sixth family." It's a perfect example of how you downplay other groups while you hype the Albanians.


lol, you took offense to it because you're obsessed with italian criminals. you want them to be the most powerful criminals in the world like in the past. and for no other reason. you don't give a fuck if i hype albanian criminals. you couldn't care less, as long as i don't compare them to italian criminals. if i expose albanian criminals as stronger in a field, you blow. you need therapy.

LOL! What a crock of revisionist history. And yes, Italians did have a big influence on America since they came en mass during the late 19th and early 20th century. Not Albanians, who didn't come until the late 20th century. Face it, your country and people's legacy is piss poor so now you're trying to feed off of others. Before we know it you'll be claiming all of Europe stemmed from Albania.


well albanians were one of the first if not the first people in all of europe so you never know ;) and southern italians practically owe every tradition and clannish behaviour to the albanian immigrants of the 1500s. deep down inside, you know if you just type arberesh on google, you will be proven dead wrong. but you're heart pumps because you fear your golden people (italian criminals) could have albanian blood lol. how sad and weird :S:S:S:S:S

piss poor? how funny, we've produced people that have come to dominate the world as you know it. roman, byzantine, ottoman emperors, highest religious figures (mother teresa and many popes), italian and greek presidents and the list goes on and on and on and on. but you wouldn't know nothing about that because you're an american. 20% of you guys cannot even locate america on the world map and that is a fact. so how could you guys possibly know a damn thing about albania or how much the citizens of that country have contributed to the world? you merely take advantage of the fact that we've been isolated and encaged for the last 50 years and use it to insult me. however, i choose not to get offended because my culture's history is rich and i'm near obsessed with it. as are many other of my country men :)
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby DutchGangster69 » July 9th, 2009, 7:03 pm

however, i choose not to get offended because my culture's history is rich and i'm near obsessed with it. as are many other of my country men


lol
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby VostokSila » July 10th, 2009, 4:11 am

i gave you flat out sources and you claimed they were a media hyped article which all came from one source


yes.

this is just a youtube.com video made by some russian kid in class.


ohhh HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA XDDDDDD LOOOL LMFAO. lol @ u calling a BBC made video an edited movie. And I take the "russian kids made a BBC quality video" as a compliment.

i can speak two and a half english, albanian and a little german.


lol in that case, I can also speak a little arabic, and spanish, and I can understand Ukranian almost perfectly.

i have cousins in albania who speak 4 languages. so whats your point?


like I said, if you count "half languages" I can speak like 4 or 5.

oh dear god.


stop evading faggot, give us the source again.

oh yeah, the gambino crime family is nothing compared to ivankov's crime gang. ivankov was so much more powerful because nobody heard of him.



lol @ u and your pisshead comparisons. you know im right bitch.

I dont want to give u shit, since it's like proving why 2+2 = 4 to an idiot which would not understand shit anyway

exactly.


he was one.


lol no he wasn't, I proved it to you.

his father was albanian.


Nope his family are GREEKS who lived in Albania.

your country and people's legacy is piss poor


true.

as are many other of my country men


the same country men who are now searching for you to kick your ass? lol.
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby CheGuevara » July 10th, 2009, 12:46 pm

VostokSila wrote:
i gave you flat out sources and you claimed they were a media hyped article which all came from one source


yes.


because that is all you can do. lie when proved wrong.

ohhh HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA XDDDDDD LOOOL LMFAO. lol @ u calling a BBC made video an edited movie. And I take the "russian kids made a BBC quality video" as a compliment.


i was trying to do the same thing you've done. i give you three official reports and you lie and say its media hype from one source. you give me a BBC video, i say its a amateur video made in class. see the similarities my hiv infected compadre?

lol in that case, I can also speak a little arabic, and spanish, and I can understand Ukranian almost perfectly.


and italian, french, chinese as well. by a little german, i mean i can communicate when germans. but i can't for example, attend university in germany because i don't understand it that well.

like I said, if you count "half languages" I can speak like 4 or 5.


:roll:

lol @ u and your pisshead comparisons. you know im right bitch.


:roll:

lol no he wasn't, I proved it to you.


:roll: you proved me right and you don't even realize it.

Nope his family are GREEKS who lived in Albania.


actually his mother evegelina was greek. his father was albanian.

your country and people's legacy is piss poor


true.[/quote]

the only history russians have is communism and what a fascinating disease they spread.

the same country men who are now searching for you to kick your ass? lol.


LOL! ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wow!
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby Azure9920 » July 10th, 2009, 12:48 pm

LOL! Now Albania has more of a history than Russia.

This really is going too far Johnny.
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby CheGuevara » July 10th, 2009, 12:53 pm

Azure9920 wrote:LOL! Now Albania has more of a history than Russia.

This really is going too far Johnny.


at least my people don't have an annual income of $11,000 in one of the most developed countries in the world. go play now.
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby Azure9920 » July 10th, 2009, 1:04 pm

CheGuevara wrote:
Azure9920 wrote:LOL! Now Albania has more of a history than Russia.

This really is going too far Johnny.


at least my people don't have an annual income of $11,000 in one of the most developed countries in the world. go play now.


You're an idiot.

Albania is conquered by countries like Russia. They'll never be on the same level...ever.
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby VostokSila » July 10th, 2009, 2:02 pm

i was trying to do the same thing you've done. i give you three official reports and you lie and say its media hype from one source. you give me a BBC video, i say its a amateur video made in class. see the similarities my hiv infected compadre?


No I dont see similarities, and im not your compadre bitch.
I have your word (which means shit BTW) that all them articles didn't come from the same source. And you know for fact, and admitted it right now, that the video is real and as you like to call it "a good source".

i mean i can communicate when germans


I know what you meant, and I also know "a little" french, Italian, japanese and shit.

you proved me right and you don't even realize it.


Because it said "Illyario-Roman origins" or some shit? lol blow me, you can't pass him as albanian u know it.

actually his mother evegelina was greek. his father was albanian.


lol keep dreaming.
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby CheGuevara » July 10th, 2009, 4:02 pm

VostokSila wrote:No I dont see similarities, and im not your compadre bitch.
I have your word (which means shit BTW) that all them articles didn't come from the same source. And you know for fact, and admitted it right now, that the video is real and as you like to call it "a good source".


i never watched the video. you don't have my word that they don't come from the same source. YOU HAVE THE THREE SOURCES! you can clearly see that they have no connections to on another. you don't need my word at all.

I know what you meant, and I also know "a little" french, Italian, japanese and shit.


so you speak english, hebrew, arabic, italian, french, japanese, spanish, russian and ukrainian? does anybody else get the feeling someone is lying?

Because it said "Illyario-Roman origins" or some shit? lol blow me, you can't pass him as albanian u know it.


he was born in dardania and his first name was flavius (flavio) which is an albanian name still used today.

lol keep dreaming.


i don't have to dream. its a fact.
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby CheGuevara » July 10th, 2009, 4:02 pm

VostokSila wrote:No I dont see similarities, and im not your compadre bitch.
I have your word (which means shit BTW) that all them articles didn't come from the same source. And you know for fact, and admitted it right now, that the video is real and as you like to call it "a good source".


i never watched the video. you don't have my word that they don't come from the same source. YOU HAVE THE THREE SOURCES! you can clearly see that they have no connections to on another. you don't need my word at all.

I know what you meant, and I also know "a little" french, Italian, japanese and shit.


so you speak english, hebrew, arabic, italian, french, japanese, spanish, russian and ukrainian? does anybody else get the feeling someone is lying?

Because it said "Illyario-Roman origins" or some shit? lol blow me, you can't pass him as albanian u know it.


he was born in dardania and his first name was flavius (flavio) which is an albanian name still used today.

lol keep dreaming.


i don't have to dream. its a fact.
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby CheGuevara » July 10th, 2009, 4:05 pm

Azure9920 wrote:You're an idiot.
Albania is conquered by countries like Russia. They'll never be on the same level...ever.


tell you the same thing i told thedickside. albanians have the highest birth rate in europe. in 2050, russia will be 100mn people. 7,300,000 albanians in the balkans today is growing at the most significant rate in europe. in 200 years, we'll see how russia stands up to albania as a country ;)

we'll see how your country stands up to alba-- oops. i mean your people, i forgot you don't have a fucking country.
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby Azure9920 » July 10th, 2009, 4:19 pm

CheGuevara wrote:tell you the same thing i told thedickside. albanians have the highest birth rate in europe.


LOL. So what? Look at the countries you're surrounded by with the highest birth rates. The Congo, Niger, Uganda.

Oh yeah, you're looking at the next superpowers.

we'll see how your country stands up to alba-- oops. i mean your people, i forgot you don't have a #%@&#%@ country.


I actually do. It's called Canada. Last I checked, it was far more important than Albania.
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby HiloBoy » July 10th, 2009, 4:20 pm

"In Kazakstan hobbies include disco dancing, archery, rape, and table tennis"....

LLOOLL
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby CheGuevara » July 10th, 2009, 8:21 pm

Azure9920 wrote:LOL. So what? Look at the countries you're surrounded by with the highest birth rates. The Congo, Niger, Uganda.
Oh yeah, you're looking at the next superpowers.


first time i realize albania was surronded by congo. do you believe what you type or whats your deal? albania is a european nation. i could care less about africa. africa will never get off the ground mostly because the EU and america keeps stealing anything valuable there.

from 1961 to 1991, albania went from 1.6mn to 3.1mn. whats funny is kosova and ilirida have even higher birth rates than albania. 200 years from now, you're looking at one of the strongest countries in the EU.

I actually do. It's called Canada. Last I checked, it was far more important than Albania.


lol, you mean england's republic of canada? yes, it's very important. canada is only somewhat known because white people made it so. your people were smoking bongs and running around naked before we white people showed up.
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby HiloBoy » July 10th, 2009, 9:17 pm

U Euro fags are like biitches arguing over the stupidest shit...

Get the fuuck on already...

Thats why u fools look so lame. back and forth, back and forth, wtf??

If u were in USA shit would have been handled. Instead, u homos are quoteing each other like a bunch of fagget ass lames...

Heres one for you...FUUCK europe, fuuck boznia, czech republic, lithuania, serbia, macedonia, russia, england, canada, france, belgium, holland, basically who-the-fuck ever!!!
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby VostokSila » July 11th, 2009, 3:22 am

you don't have my word that they don't come from the same source. YOU HAVE THE THREE SOURCES! you can clearly see that they have no connections to on another. you don't need my word at all.


I dont know what to tell you, you dont listen to logic at all.

so you speak english, hebrew, arabic, italian, french, japanese, spanish, russian and ukrainian? does anybody else get the feeling someone is lying?


fuck, you added that you speak like 3 other languages "ahh i speak little chinese italian.." that's what you said, well I know what that "little" means, it means that you know no more than 5 words, and if you take all the languages I know words in you get all of what u said here.

he was born in dardania and his first name was flavius (flavio) which is an albanian name still used today.


they spoke latin in his family, and flavius is a latin name. Albanians now copy names from latin culture lol.

we'll see how russia stands up to albania as a country



No moron, you'll be dead.

200 years from now, you're looking at one of the strongest countries in the EU.


just like jegeni is going to become world champ in 2 years, lol. u and your dreams.

U Euro fags are like biitches arguing over the stupidest shit...

Get the fuuck on already...

Thats why u fools look so lame. back and forth, back and forth, wtf??

If u were in USA shit would have been handled. Instead, u homos are quoteing each other like a bunch of fagget ass lames...

Heres one for you...FUUCK europe, fuuck boznia, czech republic, lithuania, serbia, macedonia, russia, england, canada, france, belgium, holland, basically who-the-fu-- ever!!!


lol the gayest guy here (CheGuevara) is from NY (and now toronto), yea, they wanted to sort it out and Azure wanted to meet him, so Che gave him BS directions cuz he's a pussy.

lol yea right something would be done in the US, you pussies hide behind your technologies and shit, you dont even leave the damn house.

And Kazakhstan is not in Europe u fucking idiot.
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby Grinch » July 11th, 2009, 3:33 am

HiloBoy wrote:U Euro fags are like biitches arguing over the stupidest shit...

Get the fuuck on already...

Thats why u fools look so lame. back and forth, back and forth, wtf??

If u were in USA shit would have been handled. Instead, u homos are quoteing each other like a bunch of fagget ass lames...

Heres one for you...FUUCK europe, fuuck boznia, czech republic, lithuania, serbia, macedonia, russia, england, canada, france, belgium, holland, basically who-the-fu-- ever!!!


LOL,you are from Hawaii?.
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby Azure9920 » July 11th, 2009, 9:51 am

CheGuevara wrote:first time i realize albania was surronded by congo. do you believe what you type or whats your deal? albania is a european nation.


LOL! You really are that stupid. You were discussing birth rates. Albania has the highest birth rate in Europe. So what?

Do me a favour, why don't you look at what countries have the highest birth rates in the world. https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2054rank.html

Yeah, the top 100 is full of poor, developing, backwards nations. But hey, obviously the Congo is the next world superpower, right? Look at the facts, they have well over twice your birth rate.

i could care less about africa. africa will never get off the ground mostly because the EU and america keeps stealing anything valuable there.


Africa is going to be a big continent in the next few decades. China is investing billions, and that number is growing at a huge rate. Africa has a lot of resources that are virtually untapped.

from 1961 to 1991, albania went from 1.6mn to 3.1mn.


WOW! That's amazing.

whats funny is kosova and ilirida have even higher birth rates than albania. 200 years from now, you're looking at one of the strongest countries in the EU.


And this is going to be spurred by what, population growth? LOL.

lol, you mean england's republic of canada?


Canada isn't a republic.

yes, it's very important. canada is only somewhat known because white people made it so.


Only "somewhat" important? Lol. And yet, Albania is the next EU superpower, right? The idiocy never ends.

your people were smoking bongs and running around naked before we white people showed up.


Actually, no, they weren't. Then again, it's not like they influenced the American constitution or anything. :roll:
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby Faciulina » July 11th, 2009, 11:01 am

well albanians were one of the first if not the first people in all of europe so you never know and southern italians practically owe every tradition and clannish behaviour to the albanian immigrants of the 1500s. deep down inside, you know if you just type arberesh on google, you will be proven dead wrong. but you're heart pumps because you fear your golden people (italian criminals) could have albanian blood lol. how sad and weird :S:S:S:S:S


yeah loooool and you are a mental patient, i'm guessing?
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby CheGuevara » July 11th, 2009, 1:19 pm

VostokSila wrote:
you don't have my word that they don't come from the same source. YOU HAVE THE THREE SOURCES! you can clearly see that they have no connections to on another. you don't need my word at all.


I dont know what to tell you, you dont listen to logic at all.


you're a mental patient.

fu--, you added that you speak like 3 other languages "ahh i speak little chinese italian.." that's what you said, well I know what that "little" means, it means that you know no more than 5 words, and if you take all the languages I know words in you get all of what u said here.


i said i speak chinese italian? care to quote where i said that. care to quote anywhere where i i said i speak anything but english, albanian and german?

they spoke latin in his family, and flavius is a latin name. Albanians now copy names from latin culture lol.


LOL! "they spoke latin in his family." what a joke!

No moron, you'll be dead.


actually russia will be dead. 2050- russia will be 100mn. 2100- russia will be 66mn, 2150- russia will be 44mn, 2200, russia will be 30mn. the same thing is happening in serbia and practically every other slavic nation.

just like jegeni is going to become world champ in 2 years, lol. u and your dreams.


3 years, not two.

lol the gayest guy here (CheGuevara) is from NY (and now toronto), yea, they wanted to sort it out and Azure wanted to meet him, so Che gave him BS directions because he's a pussy.

lol yea right something would be done in the US, you pussies hide behind your technologies and shit, you dont even leave the damn house.

And Kazakhstan is not in Europe u #%@&#%@ idiot.


lol, you're the biggest pussy here you moron. you're in fucking israel and you stay on the computer all fucking day.
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby VostokSila » July 11th, 2009, 3:01 pm

you're a mental patient


LOL.

i said i speak chinese italian? care to quote where i said that. care to quote anywhere where i i said i speak anything but english, albanian and german?


misunderstood what you said.

LOL! "they spoke latin in his family." what a joke!


His Latin-speaking peasant family is believed to have been of Thraco-Roman or Illyro-Roman origins

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justinian_I

actually russia will be dead. 2050- russia will be 100mn. 2100- russia will be 66mn, 2150- russia will be 44mn, 2200, russia will be 30mn. the same thing is happening in serbia and practically every other slavic nation.


john with his super calculations shows what will happen in 200 years. No one can argue with these kind of data XDDDDD

3 years, not two.


We'll see.

lol, you're the biggest pussy here you moron. you're in #%@&#%@ israel and you stay on the computer all #%@&#%@ day.


IF I log on my comp it's once or twice a day. afternoon and evening, or afternoon. Today I had nothing to do so I came here to see what kind of shit you make up now. No John, you are the biggest pussy here.
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby CheGuevara » July 13th, 2009, 8:12 am

VostokSila wrote:His Latin-speaking peasant family is believed to have been of Thraco-Roman or Illyro-Roman origins

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justinian_I


you do realize that latin at that time was like english today? probably even more of an influence because illyria was right next to rome. take a look at where he was born (dardania).

john with his super calculations shows what will happen in 200 years. No one can argue with these kind of data XDDDDD


well actually, all i am doing is taking the estimates made from experts and researchers.
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby Dobre » July 13th, 2009, 11:02 am

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VostokSila wrote:His Latin-speaking peasant family is believed to have been of Thraco-Roman or Illyro-Roman origins

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justinian_I


you do realize that latin at that time was like english today? probably even more of an influence because illyria was right next to rome. take a look at where he was born (dardania).

john with his super calculations shows what will happen in 200 years. No one can argue with these kind of data XDDDDD


well actually, all i am doing is taking the estimates made from experts and researchers.


You're the biggest retard I've ever come across in my life. You have absolutely no fucking grip on reality and your logic is so far off beyond the radar that it's impossible to have a conversation with you because you live on another frequency.

As for Justinian, Thracia = Bulgaria.

Paeonians = Thraco-Illiryans = Vardar Macedonia today.

Albanians are not the only people with Illiryan blood. You're actually Chechens, it's impossible for you to be Illiryans because Illiryans are pure. Modern day Albanians are the ugliest most diseased people of the white race on the entire planet, so your origins are foreign, not domestic.

Vlachs, on the other hand, also come from modern day Albania and then shifted towards the rest of the Balkans, mixing with the Dacians and forming the modern day Romanians.

Yet Vlachs aren't ugly, they aren't diseased and they actually get along with Macedonians, both business and socially.

Also, Dardania is modern day Kosovo.

As you said, Illiryans, aka the Macedonian Vlachs which came after waves of attacks by other groups.

Don't be mistaken, Illiryan doesn't mean Albanian.

Just because Alexander the Great was born on modern day Greek territory doesn't make him Greek.

Just because Alexander the Great's father was Ancient Macedonian doesn't make him modern day Macedonian.

Just because Alexadner the Great's mother was Illiryan doesn't make him half Albanian, half Vlach or half fuckin' Montegrin.

It's a pig sty mix. You can only catagorize by specific geographical regions. My father's father comes from Drama, so I'm Aegean Macedonian, theoretically more close to Ancient Macedonian than my Vardar Macedonian counterparts in Stip which are more Slavic than with Ancient Macedonian blood.

Yet I have more Bulgarian blood than my Stip counterparts, such as Strumica, they have tons of Bulgarian heritage.

Also note that Vardar Macedonia has been either under Serbian or Bulgarian kingdoms for most of it's day when not under Ottoman, Byzantine or Roman rule.

So the Ancient Macedonian blood would have died out over time here. You would have a larger degree of Slavic, Thracian and Illiryan blood, also depending on what region.

More Serbianized and Illiryan when it comes to Western Macedonia such as Skopje.

More Bulgarianized and Thracian when it comes to Eastern Macedonia.

Kinda Greeknized when it comes to Bitola xDD

Eastern Macedonians are wilder than Western Macedonians in Vardar Macedonia, yet Eastern Macedonians are generally friendlier while Western Macedonians are more in the West type of thing, pissed off and closed, kinda like Paris Hilton in Cancun LOOOOL

You just have to keep breaking things down by geography, date and group, you can't just fuckin' say this is that overall because it isn't.

It just isn't.

You aren't pure Illiryan.

Period.
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby VostokSila » July 13th, 2009, 5:57 pm

Illyarians are not Chechens or from the Kavkaz because Alexander didn't make it to the North Kavkaz!! He made it to Baktria which can mean at best - armenia and azerbaijan, but it means the north iran-turkish mountains. Alexander never crossed to the North Kavkaz, Albanians are not Chechens, or Avars, or Tats, Or Circassians, or Georgians, or Tabasarans, or Ossetians or any other nationality from the north Kavkaz.

Stop being an idiot.

But you are half right, they are a mix of races, inclueding Illyarian race but also Slavic, Turkish, Roman, Thracian, Dacian and many others.
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby andrew » July 13th, 2009, 7:28 pm

what a bunch of stupid arguments about who has the biggest baddest organization and about race and shit.........i thought the question is about the most ORGANIZED as in who has thier shit down.....which means to me who may have the best risk to benefit factor, untraceable money,people in key positions to help them, less headlines,less peeps in the joint ect ect

that being said i still stick with my guns about the american jews.....
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby DutchGangster69 » July 13th, 2009, 7:36 pm

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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby CheGuevara » July 13th, 2009, 8:59 pm

VostokSila wrote:Illyarians are not Chechens


illyrians have been in the balkans before any expert anywhere knew what a chechen was.

But you are half right, they are a mix of races, inclueding Illyarian race but also Slavic, Turkish, Roman, Thracian, Dacian and many others.


actually, they are not. do you have any proof of this or no? you mind telling me just how albanians are mixed with these groups when albanians/slavs have had a bloody violent relationship since the beginning of salvic invasion of the balkans?

take the kosovars for example. it's been precisely 97 years now under yugoslavia/serbia since kosova declared independence two years ago. however, regardless of this 97 year reign over kosova, they have not mixed with the slavs in yugoslavia. kosova remained albanian almost 100%.

now if you want to say "albanians mixed with ruling occupiers by a very small, small portion." then i would agree with you. because we have. there are dark albanians. dark albanians did not exist until the byzantinian or ottoman politicians/statemen/specialist started appearing in the balkans during their rule over the balkans. take some pictures for example.

it's obvious to any anthropologist that the two i pointed in red if traced back far enough will have byzantinian or ottoman origins. but as you can see they are in a very, very small minority.
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and don't say the pictures are biased. because this are the first pictures that come up when i typed "albanian children" on google images. they show a real depiction of albanian children.
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby DutchGangster69 » July 13th, 2009, 9:56 pm

furture prostitutes, pimps and drugdealers..lol
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby VostokSila » July 14th, 2009, 2:08 am

illyrians have been in the balkans before any expert anywhere knew what a chechen was.


lol dont try to make it sound like Illyarians are so known and shit, ppl barely heard of them outside your shithole.

actually, they are not. do you have any proof of this or no? you mind telling me just how albanians are mixed with these groups when albanians/slavs have had a bloody violent relationship since the beginning of salvic invasion of the balkans?


Yes, look at all the different faces lol.
And it is very logical for a culture that was conquered and raped so much to be mixed with many different peoples.
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Re: Top 5 most organized syndicate

Postby CheGuevara » July 14th, 2009, 7:35 am

VostokSila wrote:lol dont try to make it sound like Illyarians are so known and shit, ppl barely heard of them outside your shithole.


actually, anybody even remotely knowledgeble about ancient history knows what and where illyria was. it's funny you would call my country a shithole when you yourself come from a shitty country.

Yes, look at all the different faces lol.
And it is very logical for a culture that was conquered and raped so much to be mixed with many different peoples.


1: loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2: i guess the kosova situation didn't mean a thing for you. why do you talk if you're not even going to hear what the other (who is smarter about this issue) side has to say? rather than be an idiot and arrogant. sit back, listen and then talk.
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