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Postby 2Shae » April 22nd, 2006, 8:36 am

yeah probably Pablo Escobar. there was a rumour that he tried to have one of the Colomian presidents killed ... who knows.

Curtis Warren supposedly had to change his mobile phone every 3days!
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Postby alan84 » April 22nd, 2006, 12:26 pm

did u hear the rumour that warren was supposed to have ripped of the turkish babas.
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Postby $outhPhillypuppet » May 17th, 2006, 12:09 am

whoever made them McDonald chiccen nuggets is a fuccin drug lord
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Postby K_Flaceo_360 » May 20th, 2006, 10:56 am

It's Pablo, Colombia was Pablo's playground he ruled that country with an iron fist. The only mistake he ever did was when he blew up that Avianca plane, if he hadn't done that he wouldn't have lost the love of el pueblo and American forces would've never caught him. I read somewhere this man was the first & only billionaire in organized crime, not sure if the only part still stands..
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Postby useless_person » September 21st, 2006, 10:43 am

Last night, just before I woke up this morning, I dreamt that the police or some federal agency like the DEA seized more than 190 billion dollars worth of heroin.

Holy crap...

I saw a bunch of DEA type officers holding the evidance, then I heard on the news or something 190 billion dollars, and then I saw it on a piece of paper, like a document, except the figure was like 190.4 billion dollars or whatever.

I don't do drugs. I have never done them. I smoked, but don't like it --- I cough and it tastes like shit. I also don't drink --- beer tastes bitter and something like sweat.

Anyways, when I heard 190 billion dollars worth of heroin in my dream, I couldn't belive that much money was worth in drugs. It's more than Rockefeller's wealth. :shock:
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Postby useless_person » September 21st, 2006, 10:45 am

Also, I don't understand the concept of the Columbian Cartel.

There is always some cartel, like the Cali and Medellin cartels...

When I read on sites like Wikipedia about the Russian mafia, it says that they make a strong criminal alliance with the Italian mafia and Columbian Cartel, but it never says which cartel.

Is there an official Columbian Cartel, like the Mexican Mafia, aka Columbian Mafia or whatever???

Not just like the Cali and Medellin cartels?
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Postby useless_person » September 21st, 2006, 10:49 am

Also, I read about the Columbian Cartel on some site that I can't find now...

It said that the CC makes about 80 billion dollars a year.

80x25 years for example, is 2000.

Ummm...

2 trillion, or 20 trillion dollars?

Still, HOLY CRAP!!!!!

Pablo Escobar was large though, meaning physiclly and in drug money. Nice... :wink:
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Postby Sentenza » September 21st, 2006, 11:49 am

^^^You should read the book "Killing Pablo". A Biography about him and a really good read. After that you ll know what the guy was about.
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Postby Word » September 27th, 2006, 5:06 pm

useless_person wrote:Also, I read about the Columbian Cartel on some site that I can't find now...

It said that the CC makes about 80 billion dollars a year.

80x25 years for example, is 2000.

Ummm...

2 trillion, or 20 trillion dollars?

Still, HOLY CRAP!!!!!

Pablo Escobar was large though, meaning physiclly and in drug money. Nice... :wink:

The Medellin Cartel is long gone and the DEA just sent the two leaders to jail for I think it was 30 years... they're already 62 and 67 years old. So they gone. Norte del Valle has so many internal conflicts they won't be around for much longer.

"Every thing --good or bad-- must come to an end."
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Postby Hydro2oo6 » September 29th, 2006, 3:48 pm

for englands its definatly curtis warren, but not the world thought
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Postby useless_person » September 30th, 2006, 8:30 pm

Word wrote:
useless_person wrote:Also, I read about the Columbian Cartel on some site that I can't find now...

It said that the CC makes about 80 billion dollars a year.

80x25 years for example, is 2000.

Ummm...

2 trillion, or 20 trillion dollars?

Still, HOLY CRAP!!!!!

Pablo Escobar was large though, meaning physiclly and in drug money. Nice... :wink:

The Medellin Cartel is long gone and the DEA just sent the two leaders to jail for I think it was 30 years... they're already 62 and 67 years old. So they gone. Norte del Valle has so many internal conflicts they won't be around for much longer.

"Every thing --good or bad-- must come to an end."


Medillin Cartel long gone? You're kidding, right?

Medillin is still strong and they're still feuding with the Cali's, which are both similar in every day but yet have alot of differances for stupid reasons...

The Medillin and Cali are some, possibly the largest drug cartels in the world, and all they need to do now, as I said, is join forces and claim the name Columbian Cartel...

That's all...

From there on out, it's history...
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Postby SPOOKY1_SURX3. » October 6th, 2006, 6:54 pm

the guy who runs ms13
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SPOOKY1_SURX3. wrote:the guy who runs ms13


O' yeah that one guy... LOL come on dogg.
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Postby Sentenza » October 6th, 2006, 7:54 pm

Pablo Escobar is and will forever be the most "legendary" drug lord. Point blank.
Check out what dude did and you will agree.
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Postby AntMan » October 14th, 2006, 2:22 am

The worlds most powerful gangster and drug lord is Semion Mogilevich. This man is pure power.

http://gangstersinc.tripod.com/Rus.html
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Postby cbo woods » November 4th, 2006, 2:20 am

yall need to check out the pablo dvd he was getting that money and he was ruthless,did not give a fuck
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Postby Word » November 9th, 2006, 5:50 pm

useless_person wrote:Medillin Cartel long gone? You're kidding, right?

Medillin is still strong and they're still feuding with the Cali's, which are both similar in every day but yet have alot of differances for stupid reasons...

The Medillin and Cali are some, possibly the largest drug cartels in the world, and all they need to do now, as I said, is join forces and claim the name Columbian Cartel...

That's all...

From there on out, it's history...

Are you kidding me? Bwahaha, Medellin cartel has been gone since the early 1990's... Gacha is dead, Pablo is dead, Carlos is in jail (Witness Protection Program), and the Ochoa brothers have changed their lives after serving a 5-year prison sentence in Colombia.

And the Cali cartel... there two leaders were just recently found guilty and are serving 30 years. There done for...
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Postby Sentenza » November 9th, 2006, 7:33 pm

Word wrote:
useless_person wrote:Medillin Cartel long gone? You're kidding, right?

Medillin is still strong and they're still feuding with the Cali's, which are both similar in every day but yet have alot of differances for stupid reasons...

The Medillin and Cali are some, possibly the largest drug cartels in the world, and all they need to do now, as I said, is join forces and claim the name Columbian Cartel...

That's all...

From there on out, it's history...

Are you kidding me? Bwahaha, Medellin cartel has been gone since the early 1990's... Gacha is dead, Pablo is dead, Carlos is in jail (Witness Protection Program), and the Ochoa brothers have changed their lives after serving a 5-year prison sentence in Colombia.

And the Cali cartel... there two leaders were just recently found guilty and are serving 30 years. There done for...


I think they are calling shots out of prison. Columbia is corrupt as fuck.
They estimated their wealth on 200 Billion Dollars all in all. Now thats some shit, no?
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Postby Sentenza » November 9th, 2006, 7:39 pm

I looked it up, dont know if its true though. I read that once in a newspaper, but now it seems to me pretty unlikely,lol. But still they are rich as fuck with Billions of Dollars.
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Postby casalem » January 6th, 2007, 7:07 am

I saw a docimentary about Pablo Escobar n im sure hes the most powerful lord of drug of ever.
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Postby mnjmc » January 6th, 2007, 4:44 pm

Sentenza wrote:
Word wrote:
useless_person wrote:Medillin Cartel long gone? You're kidding, right?

Medillin is still strong and they're still feuding with the Cali's, which are both similar in every day but yet have alot of differances for stupid reasons...

The Medillin and Cali are some, possibly the largest drug cartels in the world, and all they need to do now, as I said, is join forces and claim the name Columbian Cartel...

That's all...

From there on out, it's history...

Are you kidding me? Bwahaha, Medellin cartel has been gone since the early 1990's... Gacha is dead, Pablo is dead, Carlos is in jail (Witness Protection Program), and the Ochoa brothers have changed their lives after serving a 5-year prison sentence in Colombia.

And the Cali cartel... there two leaders were just recently found guilty and are serving 30 years. There done for...


I think they are calling shots out of prison. Columbia is corrupt as fu--.
They estimated their wealth on 200 Billion Dollars all in all. Now thats some shit, no?



You know when someone asked the leaders of those cartels if they really made 200 billion dolars they stareted to laugh. They told them if you think we really made that much money do you honestly believe you guys would of ever caught us. Hey Setenza what is with you European guys and just autamatically believing everything you read in articles and news reports.LOL. Now I would bet my life no cartel or mafia leader from which ever country ever saw that kind of money. Come on now if someone really made that much money they would never get caught.

I am pretty sure that 200 billion dollar figure came from the amount of drugs they were moving. The authorities measured the price of cocaine in street value, you know the amount the street corner kid would get for selling their dope, which is how they blow up that figure to 200 billion. Then you have to take out the bribes to the cops and all the people in the from around the world that help move that product. Then you start to relieze that the core members of the cartel in Colombia, or any other country for that matter, never saw that much money.

So when people start talking about the hundreds on billions of dollars these mafia and cartel leaders make I can't help but laugh.
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Postby dutch » January 6th, 2007, 4:55 pm

mnjmc wrote:
Sentenza wrote:
Word wrote:
useless_person wrote:Medillin Cartel long gone? You're kidding, right?

Medillin is still strong and they're still feuding with the Cali's, which are both similar in every day but yet have alot of differances for stupid reasons...

The Medillin and Cali are some, possibly the largest drug cartels in the world, and all they need to do now, as I said, is join forces and claim the name Columbian Cartel...

That's all...

From there on out, it's history...

Are you kidding me? Bwahaha, Medellin cartel has been gone since the early 1990's... Gacha is dead, Pablo is dead, Carlos is in jail (Witness Protection Program), and the Ochoa brothers have changed their lives after serving a 5-year prison sentence in Colombia.

And the Cali cartel... there two leaders were just recently found guilty and are serving 30 years. There done for...


I think they are calling shots out of prison. Columbia is corrupt as fu--.
They estimated their wealth on 200 Billion Dollars all in all. Now thats some shit, no?



You know when someone asked the leaders of those cartels if they really made 200 billion dolars they stareted to laugh. They told them if you think we really made that much money do you honestly believe you guys would of ever caught us. Hey Setenza what is with you European guys and just autamatically believing everything you read in articles and news reports.LOL. Now I would bet my life no cartel or mafia leader from which ever country ever saw that kind of money. Come on now if someone really made that much money they would never get caught.

I am pretty sure that 200 billion dollar figure came from the amount of drugs they were moving. The authorities measured the price of cocaine in street value, you know the amount the street corner kid would get for selling their dope, which is how they blow up that figure to 200 billion. Then you have to take out the bribes to the cops and all the people in the from around the world that help move that product. Then you start to relieze that the core members of the cartel in Colombia, or any other country for that matter, never saw that much money.

So when people start talking about the hundreds on billions of dollars these mafia and cartel leaders make I can't help but laugh.


There has never been a crimelord who made 1 billion in drugs profit to this day.Escobar came close.He was the closest.Curtis Warren of England made 500 million dollars in profit.He's considered the biggest drug smuggler of the U.K..
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Postby Word » January 6th, 2007, 5:05 pm

dutch wrote:There has never been a crimelord who made 1 billion in drugs profit to this day.Escobar came close.He was the closest.Curtis Warren of England made 500 million dollars in profit.He's considered the biggest drug smuggler of the U.K..

Um.. actually Escobar surpassed $1 billion and was in Forbes Top 10 Most Wealthiest. His wealth was over $20 billion, as a matter of fact. Carlos Lehder (maintained his own island used to transport drugs into the US), Griselda Blanco (dubbed the "Godmother of Cocaine"), and Rodriguez Gacha (aka "El Mexicano"), all made $1 billion (plus) in drug profit.
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Postby mnjmc » January 6th, 2007, 5:44 pm

dutch wrote:There has never been a crimelord who made 1 billion in drugs profit to this day.Escobar came close.He was the closest.Curtis Warren of England made 500 million dollars in profit.He's considered the biggest drug smuggler of the U.K..


Finally some one from Europe that can see through the BS. haha. But I would go a step further and say no crime lord has made it past one billion no matter what they are into. That money they make is going to be split between a lot of people, because no one works for free.
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Postby Sentenza » January 6th, 2007, 6:58 pm

dutch wrote:
mnjmc wrote:
Sentenza wrote:
Word wrote:
useless_person wrote:Medillin Cartel long gone? You're kidding, right?

Medillin is still strong and they're still feuding with the Cali's, which are both similar in every day but yet have alot of differances for stupid reasons...

The Medillin and Cali are some, possibly the largest drug cartels in the world, and all they need to do now, as I said, is join forces and claim the name Columbian Cartel...

That's all...

From there on out, it's history...

Are you kidding me? Bwahaha, Medellin cartel has been gone since the early 1990's... Gacha is dead, Pablo is dead, Carlos is in jail (Witness Protection Program), and the Ochoa brothers have changed their lives after serving a 5-year prison sentence in Colombia.

And the Cali cartel... there two leaders were just recently found guilty and are serving 30 years. There done for...


I think they are calling shots out of prison. Columbia is corrupt as fu--.
They estimated their wealth on 200 Billion Dollars all in all. Now thats some shit, no?



You know when someone asked the leaders of those cartels if they really made 200 billion dolars they stareted to laugh. They told them if you think we really made that much money do you honestly believe you guys would of ever caught us. Hey Setenza what is with you European guys and just autamatically believing everything you read in articles and news reports.LOL. Now I would bet my life no cartel or mafia leader from which ever country ever saw that kind of money. Come on now if someone really made that much money they would never get caught.

I am pretty sure that 200 billion dollar figure came from the amount of drugs they were moving. The authorities measured the price of cocaine in street value, you know the amount the street corner kid would get for selling their dope, which is how they blow up that figure to 200 billion. Then you have to take out the bribes to the cops and all the people in the from around the world that help move that product. Then you start to relieze that the core members of the cartel in Colombia, or any other country for that matter, never saw that much money.

So when people start talking about the hundreds on billions of dollars these mafia and cartel leaders make I can't help but laugh.


There has never been a crimelord who made 1 billion in drugs profit to this day.Escobar came close.He was the closest.Curtis Warren of England made 500 million dollars in profit.He's considered the biggest drug smuggler of the U.K..


Actually i read that Escobar made 2 Billion, but i cant remember the source anymore. But i am sure i read it somewhere.
Whatever, he wass the largest drug lord of all time.....right next to the Orejuela brothers. All other drug lords are minor shit.
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Postby Saamir_Red_Fam » January 6th, 2007, 7:56 pm

bin laden up there too...i heard he was like the third largest heroin distributor in the world...
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Postby dutch » January 7th, 2007, 5:17 am

Sentenza wrote:
dutch wrote:
mnjmc wrote:
Sentenza wrote:
Word wrote:
useless_person wrote:Medillin Cartel long gone? You're kidding, right?

Medillin is still strong and they're still feuding with the Cali's, which are both similar in every day but yet have alot of differances for stupid reasons...

The Medillin and Cali are some, possibly the largest drug cartels in the world, and all they need to do now, as I said, is join forces and claim the name Columbian Cartel...

That's all...

From there on out, it's history...

Are you kidding me? Bwahaha, Medellin cartel has been gone since the early 1990's... Gacha is dead, Pablo is dead, Carlos is in jail (Witness Protection Program), and the Ochoa brothers have changed their lives after serving a 5-year prison sentence in Colombia.

And the Cali cartel... there two leaders were just recently found guilty and are serving 30 years. There done for...


I think they are calling shots out of prison. Columbia is corrupt as fu--.
They estimated their wealth on 200 Billion Dollars all in all. Now thats some shit, no?



You know when someone asked the leaders of those cartels if they really made 200 billion dolars they stareted to laugh. They told them if you think we really made that much money do you honestly believe you guys would of ever caught us. Hey Setenza what is with you European guys and just autamatically believing everything you read in articles and news reports.LOL. Now I would bet my life no cartel or mafia leader from which ever country ever saw that kind of money. Come on now if someone really made that much money they would never get caught.

I am pretty sure that 200 billion dollar figure came from the amount of drugs they were moving. The authorities measured the price of cocaine in street value, you know the amount the street corner kid would get for selling their dope, which is how they blow up that figure to 200 billion. Then you have to take out the bribes to the cops and all the people in the from around the world that help move that product. Then you start to relieze that the core members of the cartel in Colombia, or any other country for that matter, never saw that much money.

So when people start talking about the hundreds on billions of dollars these mafia and cartel leaders make I can't help but laugh.


There has never been a crimelord who made 1 billion in drugs profit to this day.Escobar came close.He was the closest.Curtis Warren of England made 500 million dollars in profit.He's considered the biggest drug smuggler of the U.K..


Actually i read that Escobar made 2 Billion, but i cant remember the source anymore. But i am sure i read it somewhere.
Whatever, he wass the largest drug lord of all time.....right next to the Orejuela brothers. All other drug lords are minor shit.


I can be wrong.I just read somewhere that no drugsdealer has ever made to 1 billion.But you know reporters.....
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Postby LOYALTYISKEY » March 2nd, 2007, 11:59 am

You all should check out Cocaine Cowboys. Its a documentary about how drugs started to flow into the united states. And even tho everyone might wanna say it was pablo who was the King Of Cocaine. It was the Old Man. Ochoa!!! Not Fabio or his other kids. The Big Fat Old Man Ochoa who controled Pablo, never did a day in jail.


http://www.cocainecowboys.com/
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Postby Sentenza » March 2nd, 2007, 12:50 pm

mnjmc wrote:
Sentenza wrote:
Word wrote:
useless_person wrote:Medillin Cartel long gone? You're kidding, right?

Medillin is still strong and they're still feuding with the Cali's, which are both similar in every day but yet have alot of differances for stupid reasons...

The Medillin and Cali are some, possibly the largest drug cartels in the world, and all they need to do now, as I said, is join forces and claim the name Columbian Cartel...

That's all...

From there on out, it's history...

Are you kidding me? Bwahaha, Medellin cartel has been gone since the early 1990's... Gacha is dead, Pablo is dead, Carlos is in jail (Witness Protection Program), and the Ochoa brothers have changed their lives after serving a 5-year prison sentence in Colombia.

And the Cali cartel... there two leaders were just recently found guilty and are serving 30 years. There done for...


I think they are calling shots out of prison. Columbia is corrupt as fu--.
They estimated their wealth on 200 Billion Dollars all in all. Now thats some shit, no?



You know when someone asked the leaders of those cartels if they really made 200 billion dolars they stareted to laugh. They told them if you think we really made that much money do you honestly believe you guys would of ever caught us. Hey Setenza what is with you European guys and just autamatically believing everything you read in articles and news reports.LOL. Now I would bet my life no cartel or mafia leader from which ever country ever saw that kind of money. Come on now if someone really made that much money they would never get caught.

I am pretty sure that 200 billion dollar figure came from the amount of drugs they were moving. .


Yea, that might be true...

But still, you are not aware about WHO caught them and Pablo Escobar. It wasnt the Columbian authority. Did you know, that the USA had military operations in Columbia during Escobars time and later? Did you know how much money they spent on killing Pablo Escobar? Those special Units that killed him were trained by american forces...

Believe me i do not believe too much that i read in newspapers, but there are several Mafia Bosses that easily surpassed having one billion$ and more. At the height of their power the income of the Medellin Cartel was estimated at 30 Billion Dollars and that doesnt count the street dealers and smugglers in. Just the Cartel of Medellin, for several years. How much do you think took Pablo of that cake? A big part. And everyone that complained was killed, including close friends of him and three presidential candidates, judges and police men.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2417847.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/americas/3345769.stm
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Postby LOYALTYISKEY » March 2nd, 2007, 2:44 pm

Sentenza wrote:
mnjmc wrote:
Sentenza wrote:
Word wrote:
useless_person wrote:Medillin Cartel long gone? You're kidding, right?

Medillin is still strong and they're still feuding with the Cali's, which are both similar in every day but yet have alot of differances for stupid reasons...

The Medillin and Cali are some, possibly the largest drug cartels in the world, and all they need to do now, as I said, is join forces and claim the name Columbian Cartel...

That's all...

From there on out, it's history...

Are you kidding me? Bwahaha, Medellin cartel has been gone since the early 1990's... Gacha is dead, Pablo is dead, Carlos is in jail (Witness Protection Program), and the Ochoa brothers have changed their lives after serving a 5-year prison sentence in Colombia.

And the Cali cartel... there two leaders were just recently found guilty and are serving 30 years. There done for...


I think they are calling shots out of prison. Columbia is corrupt as fu--.
They estimated their wealth on 200 Billion Dollars all in all. Now thats some shit, no?



You know when someone asked the leaders of those cartels if they really made 200 billion dolars they stareted to laugh. They told them if you think we really made that much money do you honestly believe you guys would of ever caught us. Hey Setenza what is with you European guys and just autamatically believing everything you read in articles and news reports.LOL. Now I would bet my life no cartel or mafia leader from which ever country ever saw that kind of money. Come on now if someone really made that much money they would never get caught.

I am pretty sure that 200 billion dollar figure came from the amount of drugs they were moving. .


Yea, that might be true...

But still, you are not aware about WHO caught them and Pablo Escobar. It wasnt the Columbian authority. Did you know, that the USA had military operations in Columbia during Escobars time and later? Did you know how much money they spent on killing Pablo Escobar? Those special Units that killed him were trained by american forces...

Believe me i do not believe too much that i read in newspapers, but there are several Mafia Bosses that easily surpassed having one billion$ and more. At the height of their power the income of the Medellin Cartel was estimated at 30 Billion Dollars and that doesnt count the street dealers and smugglers in. Just the Cartel of Medellin, for several years. How much do you think took Pablo of that cake? A big part. And everyone that complained was killed, including close friends of him and three presidential candidates, judges and police men.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2417847.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/americas/3345769.stm


TRUE. And like I said watch Cocaine Cowboys. Its about the Medellin Cartel. And Like I posted before Pablo was the face of the Cartel. Which was actually established in 1978 by Juan David Ochoa. And The Cartel Consisted of His 2 brothers Jorge Ochoa, Fabio Ochoa Jr, Pablo Escabar, Carlos Lehder and Gonzalo Rodriguez Gocha AKA The Mexican. The highest Ranking member of the Medellin Cartel in the US Was Rafa Cardona Salazar. He recieved all the shipments and knew who they were going to and how much money was coming back for the drugs. But the Man who controlled it all Was Fabio Ochoa.
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Postby Sentenza » March 3rd, 2007, 12:39 pm

Escobar's rise to power: From small-time gangster to the terror of Colombia
Pablo Escobar was arguably the richest and most violent criminal in history. Forbes Magazine in 1989 listed him as the seventh-richest man in the world.

http://www.cocaine.org/colombia/pablo-escobar.html


You got to have a little bit more than a billion to be the seventh richest man in the world.
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