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[Azure9920]

Any crip/blood member is defined as a "gangster". A gangster is a criminal who is, or at some point almost invariably becomes, a member of a persistent violent crime organization, such as a gang. Members of organized crime are just gangsters who are members of organized crime, as opposed to gangsters who are members of street gangs.

[Richboy17]

Any crip/blood member is defined as a "gangster". A gangster is a criminal who is, or at some point almost invariably becomes, a member of a persistent violent crime organization, such as a gang. Members of organized crime are just gangsters who are members of organized crime, as opposed to gangsters who are members of street gangs.

Depends what kind of street gang. If you a 16 year old kid gangbanging and smokin weed he aint a gangster, he's a hood. Members in real street gangs could be considered gangsters or gangbangers.

[Azure9920]

That's not Frank Lucas, unless the picture was mislabeled. It's supposed to be Bumpy Johnson.

This actually is Frank Lucas



This is Bumpy Johnson

I blame google.

[Vincetheprince]

LOL you blame google. HAHAHA HAHAHA lol, Al Capone was the real deal

[youngspade]

Any crip/blood member is defined as a "gangster". A gangster is a criminal who is, or at some point almost invariably becomes, a member of a persistent violent crime organization, such as a gang. Members of organized crime are just gangsters who are members of organized crime, as opposed to gangsters who are members of street gangs.

Depends what kind of street gang. If you a 16 year old kid gangbanging and smokin weed he aint a gangster, he's a hood. Members in real street gangs could be considered gangsters or gangbangers.

Your an idiot to EVEN THINK, Street Gangs in LA deals White Collar crimes......Its a different fucking era whateva the italian did was just at the right place at the right time. The Gangsta terminology could be used in many ways.

[Vincetheprince]

I agree, many ways

[razbojnik]

It's amusing to watch 'gangsta's' from the 'hood' or 'projekkkts' call themselves REAL GANGSTERS...

It really is. I'm not offended. Keep going at it. Slave Angel Ivanovski and his crew is laughing at you right now. Whatever makes you happy...

[Vincetheprince]

HAHAHA lol

[razbojnik]

HAHAHA lol

Holy crap you are here like a week and you have 400+ posts already. Good job. With all the accounts I have several thousand posts but who cares... Enjoy!

[Vincetheprince]

I've been registered for 15 days, the reasons I'm in Saudi Arabia and thier isn't much to do except on the weekends, and I want VIP access, and I like to put in my 2 cents, but so many people on this site are idiotic that most of my posts are of me laughing, and I want to be the person with the most posts, and be a moderator, and I like to hear peoples opinions, and thanks

[Word]

I agree with' razbojnik's last post on pg 2, about the differences between a gangster and "gangsta"..

I've been registered for 15 days, the reasons I'm in Saudi Arabia and thier isn't much to do except on the weekends, and I want VIP access, and I like to put in my 2 cents, but so many people on this site are idiotic that most of my posts are of me laughing, and I want to be the person with the most posts, and be a moderator, and I like to hear peoples opinions, and thanks

You're spamming the damn forum with nonsense, is what you're doing. You have nothing to contribute at all, for the most part. You're just bumping threads (and older ones, too) with a few-word replies.

[Vincetheprince]

what are you talking about real all my posts and then say that, I write in what i believe, I ask MANY question's because I'm curious and when I know something I post it, if I see something funny I laugh, if I see something I agree with i let it be known, and I'm trying not to swear at you and be respectful as possible, and as for you copying and pasting what I said is funny and shows you have nothing better to do than piss someone off, Razbojnik made a statement and I responded as i thought I should so you can have an opinion on me IDC, but don't be a jerk at leat be respectful, you don't know me and I don't know you, so why would you be rude in the first place what have I said rudely to you, and if I have Im sorry, but you aren't that wise if you think all i put in is nonsense because like i said I put what i believe, and as for responding to old threads I do it because I believe they're interesting and I want to get them going again, so if you have nothing nice to say then please don't say anything at all

[Word]

what are you talking about real all my posts and then say that, I write in what i believe, I ask MANY question's because I'm curious and when I know something I post it, if I see something funny I laugh, if I see something I agree with i let it be known, and I'm trying not to swear at you and be respectful as possible, and as for you copying and pasting what I said is funny and shows you have nothing better to do than piss someone off, Razbojnik made a statement and I responded as i thought I should so you can have an opinion on me IDC, but don't be a jerk at leat be respectful, you don't know me and I don't know you, so why would you be rude in the first place what have I said rudely to you, and if I have Im sorry, but you aren't that wise if you think all i put in is nonsense because like i said I put what i believe, and as for responding to old threads I do it because I believe they're interesting and I want to get them going again, so if you have nothing nice to say then please don't say anything at all

I have read your posts.... It gets tiredsome when you click "See new posts" and there's 50 posts within an hour...a majority that have nothing to contribute, except a "ahjahahahahahhhahahahha" or some retarded question. Nobody's tryna start shit....but rather speaking their mind, like you so often do.

[Vincetheprince]

well the reason thiers 50 posts in an hour is because I'm on vacation in Saudi Arabia so go figure what can I possibly do during the week in the desert? and ya I laugh alot because some people here are funny or say stupid things that I find hilarious, and as for most of my posts being me laughing thats only recently and I have many decent posts but thier are people on here that just make me laugh look at my posts on religion Riverside and Latino and Black gangs I write great posts until the thread goes off topic then I go off topic and then thier goes many useless and careless posts of people making fun of each other and I just laugh, so to defend my point as long as the thread is on topic then I put in my 2 cents and I don't go off topic and I start many new threads because I'm interested in those subjects (I.E. roll call, I'm interested in people and thier gangs and what's the biz with thier set)

[Azure9920]

It's amusing to watch 'gangsta's' from the 'hood' or 'projekkkts' call themselves REAL GANGSTERS...

It really is. I'm not offended. Keep going at it. Slave Angel Ivanovski and his crew is laughing at you right now. Whatever makes you happy...

Let him laugh, he's a nobody. I'm sure 100% of people except you care about what President Slave Ivanovski, Energy Regulatory Commission, Macedonia says or thinks.

Who is he again?

[Vincetheprince]

lol, seriously who is he?

[MadIP]

NAH SUGE AINT NO GANGSTER, SO WHEN I SEE SOMEBODY RELATIN THEM TO THE MOB BECAUSE THEY GOT A COMMON LAWYER ITS FUNNY. THOSE CRIPS AND BLOODS ARE JUST CRACK DEALERS AND PCP, EVERY TIME THEY BEEN BUSTED THEY CAUGHT 7 OR 8 KEYS WHICH AINT SHIT IF YOU PRETEND TO BE A GANGSTER WHILE THE MEXICAN MAFIA IS MOVIN THOUSANDS OF KILOS, AND WHY IS THIS ? THE CRIPS AND BLOODS AINT EVEN DEALING WITH THE MEXICAN CARTELS THEY JUST GET AN INDEPENDENT IN TIJUANA OR ANY PLACE IN THE BORDER WHY TWO OR 3 KEYS AND GO BACK THINKIN THEY SOME ESCOBAR OR SOMETHING, THE MEXICAN MAFIA DEALS WITH THE MEXICAN CARTELS AND THIS SHIT WAS ESTABLISHED WHEN THE CRIPS AND BLOODS WASNT EVEN A GANG

[thewestside]

NAH SUGE AINT NO GANGSTER, SO WHEN I SEE SOMEBODY RELATIN THEM TO THE MOB BECAUSE THEY GOT A COMMON LAWYER ITS FUNNY. THOSE CRIPS AND BLOODS ARE JUST CRACK DEALERS AND PCP, EVERY TIME THEY BEEN BUSTED THEY CAUGHT 7 OR 8 KEYS WHICH AINT SHIT IF YOU PRETEND TO BE A GANGSTER WHILE THE MEXICAN MAFIA IS MOVIN THOUSANDS OF KILOS, AND WHY IS THIS ? THE CRIPS AND BLOODS AINT EVEN DEALING WITH THE MEXICAN CARTELS THEY JUST GET AN INDEPENDENT IN TIJUANA OR ANY PLACE IN THE BORDER WHY TWO OR 3 KEYS AND GO BACK THINKIN THEY SOME ESCOBAR OR SOMETHING, THE MEXICAN MAFIA DEALS WITH THE MEXICAN CARTELS AND THIS SHIT WAS ESTABLISHED WHEN THE CRIPS AND BLOODS WASNT EVEN A GANG

It's the polydrug trafficking networks, which are extensions of the drug cartels in Mexico, that move narcotics on a large scale. Not the Mexican Mafia, which remains primarily a prison gang.

[razbojnik]

It's amusing to watch 'gangsta's' from the 'hood' or 'projekkkts' call themselves REAL GANGSTERS...

It really is. I'm not offended. Keep going at it. Slave Angel Ivanovski and his crew is laughing at you right now. Whatever makes you happy...

Let him laugh, he's a nobody. I'm sure 100% of people except you care about what President Slave Ivanovski, Energy Regulatory Commission, Macedonia says or thinks.

Who is he again?

I'm pretty sure that's not him since he's always clean shaven but whatever...

Owner of:

http://www.oazahotel.com.mk/

Owner of several nightclubs and resturaunts here in this town, as well as owner of 8th kilometer, several factories around the countries employing tens of thousands of people, connected to the Bulgarian, Serbian, Russian, Albanian and Italian mobs since the 'Macedonian mob' DOES NOT EXIST. He makes millions of euros a year. He perticipated in drug traffiking and I'm pretty sure he does some fraud schemes amongst other things like money laundering. He has tons of business around the Balkans, and possibly around Europe and maybe even in North America. He also supplies all the beer to every store, resturaunt, nightclub, bar you name it in the town. They call him the 'Stipski milioner' aka 'Stip's millionare'.

He's a nobody, you are right. I guess you are worth more selling crack on the street by the gram than selling cocaine on a continent wide scale by the metric tons...

[Azure9920]

He doesn't move tons of coke, he's the owner of a 4 star hotel with less than 30 rooms....Stip has what, 50 000 people? I doubt he's even a millionaire. He's not involved in fraud, he's not moving metric tons of coke, he's a businessman that owns a hotel,that's it, that's all.

[razbojnik]

He doesn't move tons of coke, he's the owner of a 4 star hotel with less than 30 rooms....Stip has what, 50 000 people? I doubt he's even a millionaire. He's not involved in fraud, he's not moving metric tons of coke, he's a businessman that owns a hotel,that's it, that's all.

Do you know him? Have you even been to this part of the world? What would you know about him?

My dad went to high school with him, was his friend and my grandma(mother's mother) knew his mother personally.

Here is his life story:

He had bad marks in school, always getting intro trouble. He ran away from home once. When he grew up, he was a bum eating at his friend's houses. Drug traffiking is why he is where he is right now. Ask anyone in town, they'll tell you. He's not just a businessman who owns a hotel, he owns tons of businesses around Europe, probably in Germany as well with the fucking liscence plates of his cars being from Germany, and he's a dirty businessman who got lucky. Just because he isn't mentioned in Wikipedia doesn't mean he isn't shit. All of those mobsters you see on Wikipedia are there for a reason: They were more illigiamate than legit, and they got caught in the process. Ok, so he isn't John Gotti but what's the difference? And yes, the guy is a millionare. He donated the statue of Alexandar the Great to the town square, and that's an investment in the tens of thousands of Euro's. Another businessman, Mite Nikolov, donated the bridge which connects one side of the river to the road that goes into the center where all the nightclubs, Stopanska Banka, as well as Robi and TV Star's headquarters are.

ROFL @ the black guys standing infront of a shoe store asking if it was a shoe store!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Yep, 50,000 people yet there's more people outside than in most parts of Downtown Toronto from 12 pm to 12 am.

[razbojnik]

http://62.162.58.41/index.php?option=co ... &Itemid=42

The center of Stip from the Robi building.

[Vincetheprince]

50,000 people you mean concierges for his hotel right HAHAHAHA LOL HAHAHAHA LOL LOL

[razbojnik]

50,000 people you mean concierges for his hotel right HAHAHAHA LOL HAHAHAHA LOL LOL

Idk who owns Astibo, I think it's some Italians. I know that Bargala are owned by Italians and as for Makedonka, idk. These are 3 major confections, aka textile factories. Bargala makes some expensive shoes and shit.

My uncle works in one of these sewing clothing 16 hours a day 7 days a week for 100 euros a month.

[Vincetheprince]

thats barely anything wtf why doesn't he work in America and make that in 3 days

[Azure9920]

He doesn't move tons of coke, he's the owner of a 4 star hotel with less than 30 rooms....Stip has what, 50 000 people? I doubt he's even a millionaire. He's not involved in fraud, he's not moving metric tons of coke, he's a businessman that owns a hotel,that's it, that's all.

Do you know him? Have you even been to this part of the world? What would you know about him?

My dad went to high school with him, was his friend and my grandma(mother's mother) knew his mother personally.

Here is his life story:

He had bad marks in school, always getting intro trouble. He ran away from home once. When he grew up, he was a bum eating at his friend's houses. Drug traffiking is why he is where he is right now. Ask anyone in town, they'll tell you. He's not just a businessman who owns a hotel, he owns tons of businesses around Europe, probably in Germany as well with the #%@&#%@ liscence plates of his cars being from Germany, and he's a dirty businessman who got lucky. Just because he isn't mentioned in Wikipedia doesn't mean he isn't shit. All of those mobsters you see on Wikipedia are there for a reason: They were more illigiamate than legit, and they got caught in the process. Ok, so he isn't John Gotti but what's the difference? And yes, the guy is a millionare. He donated the statue of Alexandar the Great to the town square, and that's an investment in the tens of thousands of Euro's. Another businessman, Mite Nikolov, donated the bridge which connects one side of the river to the road that goes into the center where all the nightclubs, Stopanska Banka, as well as Robi and TV Star's headquarters are.

ROFL @ the black guys standing infront of a shoe store asking if it was a shoe store!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Yep, 50,000 people yet there's more people outside than in most parts of Downtown Toronto from 12 pm to 12 am.

If we were to take your opinion on it, everyone in Macedonia would be ranked among the top 10 drug traffickers worldwide....
You've obviously never been outside in Toronto around 12-12 if you think no one's outside, maybe not where you were, you have to go to the hotspots...

[razbojnik]

I've been outside lol especially during those times and after 12 am...

Yet again, you mistake me for saying a totality when I meant a partiality...

I didn't say no one. There are people outside in Toronto, especially where all the big skyscrapers are, during the day and the night. I just said there are more people outside here overall and in hot spots than in Toronto.

Small town, 50,000 people, the weather is nice, the athmosphere doesn't feel threatening, it just feels better to go outside than to be inside..

The whole town is like 2-3 kilometers from one end to another in all directions, so figure. But yet there are still some inaccessible places that aren't easy as for me to go such as the pool or my grandma's apartment or something similar, which requires a taxi to get to because you just can't see them in the distance because of the hilly terrain and how condensed the buildings and houses are...

LOL then again, 'everyone in Macedonia top 10 traffikers in the world'...

NEIN! He's not even one of the top 10 in Macedonia, let alone the Balkans, let alone Europe, let alone the world. Or maybe he is? The metric tons thing was an overstatement...

But he did get rich from drug traffiking and drug dealing on the street cannot make you rich but dealing in large amounts of kilos can...

[razbojnik]

Btw he had a fur coat business amongst his other businesses while doing the drug traffiking like a resturaunt...

But you know the technique they used? They used the same on they used in We Own The Night, except to cover the smell from the drug sniffing dogs, they would cut the fur fresh from the animal while it still smelled like meat to cover up the smell and woalah.

Oh come on now don't give me the drug sniffing dogs can smell through the meat and still spot the drugs since they are trained to do that and their senses are very strong...

Come on. Which would a dog really rather care about? The meat or the coke? Be reasonable..

I think if I put a burger in one pocket and a hand grenade in another pocket the bomb sniffing dog would go after the burger, same goes with a steak and a pack of cocaine...

[razbojnik]

Or did they cut the fur and put it inside...

Hmm.. Either one of those but they still used fresh cut furs from slaughtered animals...

[Vincetheprince]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL NO

[Azure9920]

I've been outside lol especially during those times and after 12 am...

Yet again, you mistake me for saying a totality when I meant a partiality...

I didn't say no one. There are people outside in Toronto, especially where all the big skyscrapers are, during the day and the night. I just said there are more people outside here overall and in hot spots than in Toronto.

Small town, 50,000 people, the weather is nice, the athmosphere doesn't feel threatening, it just feels better to go outside than to be inside..

The whole town is like 2-3 kilometers from one end to another in all directions, so figure. But yet there are still some inaccessible places that aren't easy as for me to go such as the pool or my grandma's apartment or something similar, which requires a taxi to get to because you just can't see them in the distance because of the hilly terrain and how condensed the buildings and houses are...

LOL then again, 'everyone in Macedonia top 10 traffikers in the world'...

NEIN! He's not even one of the top 10 in Macedonia, let alone the Balkans, let alone Europe, let alone the world. Or maybe he is? The metric tons thing was an overstatement...

But he did get rich from drug traffiking and drug dealing on the street cannot make you rich but dealing in large amounts of kilos can...

Who says people in the streets can't drop kilos? You don't have to be some guy in a suit or living in Columbia to move some...

[Vincetheprince]

thats true homie got it right, Razbojnik think outside the box