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[CheGuevara]

So, just that single sentence in the book you didn't read? Yeah, I seen it; I was hoping you had something with a little more substance.

lol, i bet you if you go click $200bn and chinese mafia on google that that estimate will appear on numerous sources.

[CheGuevara]

what do you know? i did that same thing in and in secound found another source that backs my first source up. huh? who would have thought? i guess the italians are not made of gold afterall :S:S:S:S:S how weird.

http://books.google.ca/books?id=ef_VT6z ... t&resnum=7

[Faciulina]

faced with the obvious. your only comback is to claim i have only basic knowledge of other groups except albanian organized crime. the fact is, your a nut for italian organized crime. the chinese mafia is without a doubt bigger on an international scale. they pull in $200bn a year while the italians pull in much less. they have more members than the italians. but yet, this is not enough for you because you don't want it to be so. the russians operate in many more countries and have a bigger membership than the italians. but this isn't enough for you.

looool triads don't earn 200 billions that's your assumption and there is not any accurate source to proof it china is a semi-dictatorship it's impossible the central goverment let they earn so much moron italy is different there is democracy and the mafia is the major player there even stronger than central goverment itself

now you're claiming n'drangheta can equal half of the entire mexican cartels which controls the entire united states drug trade except for heroin which i think they control only half of. you show no reason to think otherwise. you go off talking about discos and construction and supermarkets as if the mexicans have not bought entire companies and industries in mexico. your problem is that you think the italians are special. you think they have something nobody else does. when in actuality, they are just another organized crime group. at best, the 4th strongest in the world after the chinese, russian and albanian criminals

ndrangheta is far stronger than mexican cartels it was created in 1300s it earns several more billions it's more entrenched more organized and it has a permanent structure with cerimonies... yeah lol albanians are in the top 4 in the world so they are stronger than mexicans that you love so much? shut up moron albanians are not even in the top 10 globally

[thewestside]

when faced with the obvious. your only comback is to claim i have only basic knowledge of other groups except albanian organized crime. the fact is, your a nut for italian organized crime. the chinese mafia is without a doubt bigger on an international scale. they pull in $200bn a year while the italians pull in much less. they have more members than the italians. but yet, this is not enough for you because you don't want it to be so. the russians operate in many more countries and have a bigger membership than the italians. but this isn't enough for you.

This is a perfect example of how you have no idea what you're talking about. You stumbled across the figure of $200 billion in some book for the Chinese when you were doing one of your Google searches and you use that as your basis to make comparisons. LOL! And I already told you that if you read the book Octupus: The Long Reach of the International Sicilian Mafia, it quotes $250 billion for the Italian groups. But I don't quote this because my arguments and the extense of my knowledge doesn't depend on some cherrypicked figure I came across. How many members of Russian organized crime are there Johnny? And how many countries do they operate in? You're talking out of your ass.

now you're claiming n'drangheta can equal half of the entire mexican cartels which controls the entire united states drug trade except for heroin which i think they control only half of. you show no reason to think otherwise. you go off talking about discos and construction and supermarkets as if the mexicans have not bought entire companies and industries in mexico. your problem is that you think the italians are special. you think they have something nobody else does. when in actuality, they are just another organized crime group. at best, the 4th strongest in the world after the chinese, russian and albanian criminals.

You fucking hypocrite. It's you who thinks the Albanians are special. It's you who builds Albanians up to mythical proportions. Ask anyone here. I don't think the Italians are special. I think you don't have enough knowledge on any of these groups to be making comparisons. You are an ametuer. A punk 17 year old coming on this board and acting like he has a clue in the world.

[CheGuevara]

This is a perfect example of how you have no idea what you're talking about. You stumbled across the figure of $200 billion in some book for the Chinese when you were doing one of your Google searches and you use that as your basis to make comparisons. LOL! And I already told you that if you read the book Octupus: The Long Reach of the International Sicilian Mafia, it quotes $250 billion for the Italian groups. But I don't quote this because my arguments and the extense of my knowledge doesn't depend on some cherrypicked figure I came across. How many members of Russian organized crime are there Johnny? And how many countries do they operate in? You're talking out of your ass.

your knowledge comes from what you want it to be first and actuality second. it was two books which quoted the $200bn number.

You #%@&#%@ hypocrite. It's you who thinks the Albanians are special. It's you who builds Albanians up to mythical proportions. Ask anyone here. I don't think the Italians are special. I think you don't have enough knowledge on any of these groups to be making comparisons. You are an ametuer. A punk 17 year old coming on this board and acting like he has a clue in the world.

which is why you copy and paste anyone who mentions the italians and exhagerrates and puts them in the best light possible while with any other group, you give a mere two sentence brief and usually an under statement. proof? look at the way you reply to faciulina and he makes claims like the italians have killed more in the last two weeks than the albanian chicken theives in it's entire history. you don't copy him and call him a moron or a fruitfly or a fanboy as you do and explain to him the albanian mafia is a global force. instead you either don't answer him or give him a "not true." while if it was anybody, even a mental patient like faciulina claiming the same for the mexicans in comparison to the italians, you would go nuts and go on a posting rampage.

you're biased and you exhagerrate about the italians. this is true and you know it.

[thewestside]

your knowledge comes from what you want it to be first and actuality second.

Now it's gotten to the point where you simply regurgitate what I say about you. Ask anyone here on this forum which one of us goes on pure wishful thinking regardless of the facts. It ain't me pal.

it was two books which quoted the $200bn number.

Oh, two books huh? Well that's a whole lot to base your stupid claims on. And what would the second book be exactly?

which is why you copy and paste anyone who mentions the italians and exhagerrates and puts them in the best light possible while with any other group, you give a mere two sentence brief and usually an under statement. proof? look at the way you reply to faciulina and he makes claims like the italians have killed more in the last two weeks than the albanian chicken theives in it's entire history. you don't copy him and call him a moron or a fruitfly or a fanboy as you do and explain to him the albanian mafia is a global force. instead you either don't answer him or give him a "not true." while if it was anybody, even a mental patient like faciulina claiming the same for the mexicans in comparison to the italians, you would go nuts and go on a posting rampage.

I don't even read 95% of Faciulina's stupid posts. And I wouldn't read many of your's but your posts are often in response to mine or if I'm talking with someone else, you'll stick your Albanian nose into it.

[Faciulina]

look at the way you reply to faciulina and he makes claims like the italians have killed more in the last two weeks than the albanian chicken theives in it's entire history.

i never said it you moron i was talking about north italy and germany just of those areas... when i lived in north italy i always read local newspapers and i saw calabrians and sicilians gunned down almost daily and very little about albanians the same in germany but you are so illiterate you can't even read my posts

explain to him the albanian mafia is a global force

loooool since albanians are a global force? they are only in europe i don't care what you think and your dreams they are nobody out of europe and even in europe they are nobody compared to italian mafia you know it and i know it

[CheGuevara]

Now it's gotten to the point where you simply regurgitate what I say about you. Ask anyone here on this forum which one of us goes on pure wishful thinking regardless of the facts. It ain't me pal.

Oh, two books huh? Well that's a whole lot to base your stupid claims on. And what would the second book be exactly?

as much as you like you think you're some kind of unbiased expert on organized crime, you're not. everything you accuse me of can be thrown your way. take a look at your first posts on this board. you were claiming albanian organized crime is more on the level of japanese organized crime if even that. you backtrack, exhagerrate, manipulate, flat out lie, or diverse the conversation when you're proved wrong. and i posted the source in the last page of this thread i think it was. go check.

I don't even read 95% of Faciulina's stupid posts. And I wouldn't read many of your's but your posts are often in response to mine or if I'm talking with someone else, you'll stick your Albanian nose into it.

although i agree faciulina doesn't even deserve a response (as i'm not giving him any anymore). but the only reason you ignore his stupidity is because he exhagerrates about the italians. if some idiot like him said albanians killed more in one week than the italians in their entire history. you would wage a posting war against him asking him how and post up all italian killings and stuff and you would pretty much make this board a sole argument between you two. no matter how stupid he is. but since faciulina's stupidity is in favor of the italians. you merely choose to ignore him and say he's not worth responding to.

[Faciulina]

if some idiot like him said albanians killed more in one week than the italians in their entire history.

are you talking about yourself moron? only an idiot like you could say it loooool you even said the albanians are violent in the states where they are really nobody and they killed anybody