Nick Rizzuto Jr. murdered in Montreal

[thewestside]

True True on anyone pulling the trigger, a baby could of shot him with his own gun while he was holding the baby LOL! jkn

But there weakness would be that they have internal beef and they cant even handle the REAL beefs, lets say someone inside the family paid the haitians? trying to rise to power? Can we put that into speculation? More reasonable?

The question is still at rise, what would Haitians gain over taking them out besides money? Are they trying to weaken the influence or the concrete "MAFIA" that once was!

What weakened the Rizzutos was Operation Colisee back in 2006 when about 90 people in the organization were rounded up. I'm not sure what you mean by "internal beefs" as opposed to "real beefs." We still don't know what the beef that led to Rizzuto Jr. being killed was exactly. And even if it was Haitians acting alone, do they really think one guy getting popped and some cafes getting vandalized is going to make the Italian mob pack their bags and move out of the city after they've been there for decades?

[Azure9920]

I know there are some jamaican gangs that are connected but they are sporadic cases, they are barely connected, the jamaicans have not a any permanent and monolitich organization like the italians have and they are not even close being widespread, rich and powerful like the italians are
i answered youngspade who claimed haitians and jamaicans are all connected looool

The major Jamaican posses(Shower, Spangler, etc) had fairly extensive drug networks in various cities across the US and Canada during the 80's and 90's. While it's unlikely that the Haitians in Montreal have any serious connections to other Haitian criminal groups in say, Florida or Haiti, since they still rely on for a connection, and PAY the Rizzuto's a street tax to sell drugs.

[youngspade]

True True on anyone pulling the trigger, a baby could of shot him with his own gun while he was holding the baby LOL! jkn

But there weakness would be that they have internal beef and they cant even handle the REAL beefs, lets say someone inside the family paid the haitians? trying to rise to power? Can we put that into speculation? More reasonable?

The question is still at rise, what would Haitians gain over taking them out besides money? Are they trying to weaken the influence or the concrete "MAFIA" that once was!

What weakened the Rizzutos was Operation Colisee back in 2006 when about 90 people in the organization were rounded up. I'm not sure what you mean by "internal beefs" as opposed to "real beefs." We still don't know what the beef that led to Rizzuto Jr. being killed was exactly. And even if it was Haitians acting alone, do they really think one guy getting popped and some cafes getting vandalized is going to make the Italian mob pack their bags and move out of the city after they've been there for decades?

Damn thats a BIG BIG POWER CHANGE I could imagine them not liking the next man in power because of indictments not the old traditional way (Death or JAIL) = New Boss, now its Indictments = New Kid on the block is the BOSS and the other half barely get along with him because they wanna be the boss! Very Few Mafiaso want to just be a LT and thats it, but MOSTof all wanna get that chance with the boss! - This is what I mean by Internal beefs!

No they cant not get rid of them, only way they go into hiding is if law enforcement gets hot!!! They wont run and hide or not have more cafes but they have struck a good blow to a TOP Italian mafia outside the eastcoast of UNITED STATES, Europe and ITALY! Them guys up there got they own shit going! I met a old IRISH guy the other day and he was from Canada this old guy had one hell of a "GANGSTER" in him but was very down to earth at the same time! The way he talked, he even admitted he loved vegas when the mob ran it lol! He was far from a bitch he lookd like he'll kick some of yall ass's!

[whiskeyjack]

I met a old IRISH guy the other day and he was from Canada this old guy had one hell of a "GANGSTER" in him but was very down to earth at the same time! The way he talked, he even admitted he loved vegas when the mob ran it lol! He was far from a bitch he lookd like he'll kick some of yall ass's!

if this is true, you should meet the folks from vancouver....

[Elimu]

The way Rizzuto Jr. died and a few businesses getting lightly burned doesn't sound like something a haitian gang would do. It would of been more deadly like Rizzuto Jr. would be fill of bullet holes and the shops completely burned to the ground. Haitian gangs violence is semi-semilar to Jamaican Posse whose even more dangerous though.

[youngspade]

The way Rizzuto Jr. died and a few businesses getting lightly burned doesn't sound like something a haitian gang would do. It would of been more deadly like Rizzuto Jr. would be fill of bullet holes and the shops completely burned to the ground. Haitian gangs violence is semi-semilar to Jamaican Posse whose even more dangerous though.

True

and Yes, WestSide, I dont speak BS, this was like 2 days ago @ work!

[VsichkoEBosh]

The way Rizzuto Jr. died and a few businesses getting lightly burned doesn't sound like something a haitian gang would do. It would of been more deadly like Rizzuto Jr. would be fill of bullet holes and the shops completely burned to the ground. Haitian gangs violence is semi-semilar to Jamaican Posse whose even more dangerous though.

True

and Yes, WestSide, I dont speak BS, this was like 2 days ago @ work!

You can't compare the Jamaicans and the Haitians to the Italians. There's over 100,000 dead in Haiti's capital.

[Elimu]

The way Rizzuto Jr. died and a few businesses getting lightly burned doesn't sound like something a haitian gang would do. It would of been more deadly like Rizzuto Jr. would be fill of bullet holes and the shops completely burned to the ground. Haitian gangs violence is semi-semilar to Jamaican Posse whose even more dangerous though.

True

and Yes, WestSide, I dont speak BS, this was like 2 days ago @ work!

You can't compare the Jamaicans and the Haitians to the Italians. There's over 100,000 dead in Haiti's capital.

True. But the Jamaicans are equally dangerous as the italians and what does the catastrophic crisis in Haiti have to due with this?

[youngspade]

LOL right what does it have to do with this, but to these faggots the italians never lostd an ounce of power, while other people didnt gain anything or anypower?

[Faciulina]

LOL right what does it have to do with this, but to these faggots the italians never lostd an ounce of power, while other people didnt gain anything or anypower?

in the states although weaker than the past italian mafia is still far the strongest it's mean the other groups didn't gain any power or they barely did, no groups probably never will equal italian mafia power

[youngspade]

LOL right what does it have to do with this, but to these faggots the italians never lostd an ounce of power, while other people didnt gain anything or anypower?

in the states although weaker than the past italian mafia is still far the strongest it's mean the other groups didn't gain any power or they barely did, no groups probably never will equal italian mafia power

ok

[thewestside]

LOL right what does it have to do with this, but to these faggots the italians never lostd an ounce of power, while other people didnt gain anything or anypower?

90 guys in the Rizzuto organization being rounded up in 2006, including Vito Rizzuto himself and several of his top lieutenants, was certainly a big blow to them. The same way the big biker bust a few years before that was a big blow to the OMG's. And this may have left some degree of a vacuum in the Montreal underworld where other groups might try to stake their claim.

But that's all speculation at this point. We still don't know who was behind either the cafe bombings or the Rizzuto murder. And when I say "behind," I mean was it really a Haitian gang acting alone or was it others acting in cooperation with a break off mob faction?

People can come and talk about how mean and violent the Haitians are all they want. But at the end of the day, them fire bombing some cafes and killing Rizzuto doesn't necessarily give them the ability to fully step in and fill whatever void has been left by the Italian Mafia and the biker groups.

[whiskeyjack]

ive read in the news that they suspect the firebombings are related to the mafia in TO and there might be an interna thing going on

[thewestside]

ive read in the news that they suspect the firebombings are related to the mafia in TO and there might be an interna thing going on

Yeah, that's one of several theories put forth so far.

[DutchGangster69]

Double murder in Old Montreal
Police investigate clothing store owner’s ties to mafia

Friday, March 19, 2010 10:21am - 0 Comments
Two people were gunned down mid-afternoon in Old Montreal yesterday, a brazen (and bizarre) killing that is allegedly tied to the shooting death of mobster Nicolo Rizzuto Jr. Two gunmen entered Flawnego, a women’s clothing store in the chic strip of St Jacques in Old Montreal and shot dead Peter Christopoulos and an unnamed victim. The alleged target, Flawnego owner Joseph Ducarme, managed to escape. Ducharme is reputed to have ties to Montreal’s underworld, notably as a bagman for construction magnate Antonio Magi, an associate of Rizzuto, who was gunned down in late December. Christopoulos is alleged to have been Ducharme’s bodyguard.

[youngspade]

Double murder in Old Montreal
Police investigate clothing store owner’s ties to mafia

Friday, March 19, 2010 10:21am - 0 Comments
Two people were gunned down mid-afternoon in Old Montreal yesterday, a brazen (and bizarre) killing that is allegedly tied to the shooting death of mobster Nicolo Rizzuto Jr. Two gunmen entered Flawnego, a women’s clothing store in the chic strip of St Jacques in Old Montreal and shot dead Peter Christopoulos and an unnamed victim. The alleged target, Flawnego owner Joseph Ducarme, managed to escape. Ducharme is reputed to have ties to Montreal’s underworld, notably as a bagman for construction magnate Antonio Magi, an associate of Rizzuto, who was gunned down in late December. Christopoulos is alleged to have been Ducharme’s bodyguard.

So its internal beef? Just the haitians did it?

[thewestside]

So its internal beef? Just the haitians did it?

Jury is still out.........

[VsichkoEBosh]

Double murder in Old Montreal
Police investigate clothing store owner’s ties to mafia

Friday, March 19, 2010 10:21am - 0 Comments
Two people were gunned down mid-afternoon in Old Montreal yesterday, a brazen (and bizarre) killing that is allegedly tied to the shooting death of mobster Nicolo Rizzuto Jr. Two gunmen entered Flawnego, a women’s clothing store in the chic strip of St Jacques in Old Montreal and shot dead Peter Christopoulos and an unnamed victim. The alleged target, Flawnego owner Joseph Ducarme, managed to escape. Ducharme is reputed to have ties to Montreal’s underworld, notably as a bagman for construction magnate Antonio Magi, an associate of Rizzuto, who was gunned down in late December. Christopoulos is alleged to have been Ducharme’s bodyguard.

So its internal beef? Just the haitians did it?

Proxies ftw

[Carmelo_Sicily]

The guy Ducarme is a suspected Crip member.

[youngspade]

The guy Ducarme is a suspected Crip member.

LOL Crips vs Italians

[VsichkoEBosh]

The guy Ducarme is a suspected Crip member.

LOL Crips vs Italians

*facepalm*

[youngspade]

The guy Ducarme is a suspected Crip member.

LOL Crips vs Italians

*facepalm*

hate, jokes much?