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Unread post by **Young Deuce** » July 12th, 2007, 7:58 pm

well from my research so far the black gangs ive found so far are

Bloods:

9 Deuce Bishops (the dominant blood gang in st.louis)
62 Brims
VNG Brims
Bounty Hunnaz
Treetop Piru

Crips:

Rollin 60z
62 Kitchen
87 Kitchen
83 Hoover
1-9 Hoover
107 Hoover
Opac

others:

GDz

Unread post by **Young Deuce** » July 12th, 2007, 8:35 pm

i gotta question do LA Kitchenz wer the KC hats like they do here

MiChuhSuh · Unread post by **MiChuhSuh** » July 13th, 2007, 1:55 pm

Unread post by **Young Deuce** » September 1st, 2007, 5:06 am

i found out that OPAC stands fa o fallon park area crips but i know hoods outside that area that claim it......

i also did research on a hood called the grape ( named after grape st. watts) in st louis....they wear purple like the orginal but i helieve this hood is the first i found to be a hood copying instead of migration because of a big contridiction.....alot of because in the grape claim rollin 60s crip....which wood make their colors purple,blue, and gold(or yellow)....most just wear purple and gold.....alot of people told me they started out as just grape st. crips then the whole 60 vs kitchen thing broke out and alot of the hood that beef with them were kitchen so they alligned themselves wt the rollin 60s.......

Unread post by **Young Deuce** » September 1st, 2007, 5:08 am

im still doin research on this and im workin on otha things plus i got school and my music so i dont kno when im gonna finish this......

mobbhead · Unread post by **mobbhead** » December 9th, 2008, 6:44 pm

Young Deuce wrote:here is a hood called 58 pershing it is bloodz....

yea we smashed them boyz

mobbhead · Unread post by **mobbhead** » December 9th, 2008, 6:46 pm

Young Deuce wrote:here is a hood called 58 pershing it is bloodz....

yea we hurt them lil guyz

42uceKCMonster · Unread post by **42uceKCMonster** » January 27th, 2009, 6:44 pm

aye Deuce Bruh Is you from the Ville. because that pic of them Kitchen Crips you have are my guys

Unread post by **Young Deuce** » February 3rd, 2009, 4:12 pm

yeah 42 A.M.G....

dizzystylez · Unread post by **dizzystylez** » March 2nd, 2009, 11:02 am

aye yo deuce i respect the shit that you tellin, you be keepin it real and i feel ya on the fact that you trynn abetta ya self that real talk pimp yadidamean i come from the bay where theres a grip of surenos and northeno bloods, crips you name their there. know im back in teh hood in gresham oregon big turf for bloodz and cripz. the main taggings i see around teh town are

UBN( united blood nation)
GD folks(dont rememeber what the gd stands for)
sur x3
and know we have a new uprising gang
no nam eyet but all they do is tag up swaztikas and shit. i can live with all the others but it sickens me to know theirs a skinhead crew stompin my streets.

but yeah whateva thats a complete differant thing. i mainly wanted to give you props on what your doin. at least someone else on this planet is intelligent and knows that you can still be hood and from teh block yet be something at teh same time!

people gotta remember teh hood/block thats in your heart but you dont hav eto act upon that shit 24/7. theres a time to be serious and handle what needs to be handled then theres teh time to let loose and rep your set but they both have they times and you'll know when its time for either one! you on teh other hand have realized this!

stay up pimpin

soo woo!

Unread post by **perongregory** » September 15th, 2009, 11:39 pm

u still workin on this deuce

sickntwisted · Unread post by **sickntwisted** » November 24th, 2009, 3:14 pm

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I'm not knocking St Louis at all here, just feeling kind of suprised - I'm not suprised about St Lois having gangs, nah, standard in todays world in a biggish city seen - but suprised by the c and b thing still. Even as a way outsider, I could see how those peeps weren't hard-core like many LA clicks. Thats not to say those parts dont have their ish, sure they will, but its still a shame to see so many healthy looking kids tryin to get mobbed up like that - to me those pics lookd more like social club than hard core gang thing and would be better that wayu. Seems a damn shame.

they look like they taking vacation picks on a nice cool island them niggaz need to knock that BS out and try to help eatch other make something in their life that b -c ain't shit never been its death for BS you could seen it in any hood in l.a.the o.g will tell you it's nonsense and how do you have og how long they be in their gang???

Unread post by **Young Deuce** » April 17th, 2010, 8:22 pm

naw peron i stopped workin on the shit when i found out how much backwards shit our gangs is with LA.....like ECC and Kitchen crips click up n dont fuck with no other crip gangs...6o's and hoovers click up....kitchens and ecc known to fuck with bloods....grapes in st louis claim rollin 60....its alotta BS....

TuriG · Unread post by **TuriG** » June 14th, 2010, 12:31 pm

What a shame. Sure was interesting what the young man was doing. It really sounded lie a great project. I hope you haven't lost your enthusiasm. Do something else positive. Good Luck. "G"

cutthroat · Unread post by **cutthroat** » November 29th, 2010, 1:34 am

Man this is the worst information about gangs in the lou you could possibly get.Check it out Im in my 30s&started bangin in the 80s been a blood colors was just a movie dont belive the hype we was banging before that blood,to understand gangs here you have to know the history&politics behind it its alot deeper than guys copying from la.Im ah make a few points&if you have any questions Ill answer em if you pm me.Im ah break it all down in my own thread but heres some 100% TRUE FACTS from someone who lived it.Before there was bloods&all in the lou there was the westside rockers,the hardy boys&the hell raisers which no longer exsist also there was 55 hsp horseshoe posse ,wells mob .smp,61 plo,b.o.d. etc etc.Now most of these sets are still around&they bang a blood or crip set...reason being TAKE NOTE this is how it all happend Bloods was first in st.louis not even in the city but in the county.Some bloods that was 62 brims came down to sell dope in overland&elmwood&berkley&got a couple guys on there squad.But what really made it all explode in st.louis was a dude named bizmark from la he had some people on the west side on 55 (the shoe) these dudes had been around for years horse shoe posse well bizmark& la freeze triggaallthese guys from cali come down&Like a blood we gone put yall to work selling this dope&this is in the mid 80s 85 86 ,well all these dudes they hungry so they jumped on it now they all horse shoe posse bloods&it spread like wild fire through the west side arlington mob became bloods trigga from cali got wells mob bangin bloods etc etc so they was what they had allways been but was adding blood onto it so like wells mob had allways been wells mob but since trigga was 52 blood stone villan they adopted it 55 shoe got put in the dope game by 92 ifg so they adopted it.At the same time there was a gang on blackstone called bloods of destruction ran by this guy dorcy,dude was bout it well they became boys of destruction after being bloods for a short period because dude aint like the shoe so he fliped it on em & later they became crips.&Dorcy had dudes terrified of him he was later killed by some 62 e.c.c. crips outside of a club.It wasnt over hit man t R.I.P. like some people say.&Hitman t was like dorcy rival My guy Pig from the shoe is the one they brought t to the nite he was killed.Im not gonna go into all dudes history but ask about hitman hes the defenition of st.louis bloods they say he had 30 murders by the time he was 14.So it went like this bloods came from cali with dope they put sets on these sets adopted em,crips came did the same crips came in on the westside slowly but was allover the north side before bloods was even thinking about the north.Well by the time everybody was going hard the shoe looked@these cali guys&was like f yall this my hood we got money now bounce cause they was getting tired of these dudes acting like they ran something...example giving the ice cube song dude mentoined my homie got shot hes a gonner black st.louis ni99az want they corners back!By the time cali guys was gone we was banged out&every block was bangin.&they still hollerd there adopted set the 3 biggest being not 92 bishops...nevert met 1 ever 92 i.f.g.b, 62, brim 104 cmg ,a few 52 bsv few rolling 20s,few t.t.p &kinloch use to be all bounty hunters.Berkley was all 62 brims&the county was lit up by twilight from cali&my dude looney from pine lawn STILL BANGIN GO ASK!&I bs you not the biggest gang was o.b.g. overland blood gang (only a few left)which was about 250 0r more strong &about 90 percent white.Started by sirricco brown R.I.P! Dont belive me go on st.louis post dispatch archives 1993&94 search obi brown his lil brother or sirricco.It says LIKE A PIDE PIPER POLICE SAY SIRRICCO BROWN HAS LED ST.LOUIS YOUTH DOWN A WAYWARD PATH TOWARDS CRIME&VIOLENCE BROWN 18 HAS A SALESMAN MANNER....ETC ETC After the homeboy got killed the gang fell apart So like I said Dope is a mutha#@&*%$ &Now to correct a few points opac started out as offalon park area community&started with the bud then 21 laide which was 19 lbcs&they clicked up.43 gib is NOT the pac in I use to be in that area in the early 90s my dude y.g. out there now.They cool with the pac but they aint pac 62 aint kc there 62 east coast crips 2&7s my dude twetty bird loc R.I.P. is like a legend on n.m.g. north market dude saved me from some 21 adelaide guys when he was like this my guy they bounced true story most the guys from his block could even tell you dude real name its marlon Ill leave the last out.&The 62 colors was blue&brown &the kitchens was blue&orange.&the reason 62s&87s war with 60s here&This is something none of you millenium guys know around 1991 a 60 killed a 62 for a pair of js&its been on ever since&the reason bloods&62s&87s started ridin togather because in the work house (its a jail) there was so many 60s so the bloods&2s&7s both had they same enemy so why not?its strength in numbers.It dont allways work like that I was in the joint one time&we was good with them guys one day not kickin it or nothing but it was peaceful the next day we was all on the yard face to face ready to war.All these new guys dont know the history I remember going out when guys would walk up behind you with a pistol&Lift up youre shirt to see what color flag was in youre pocket remember when you went out with them red shoe strings in youre kicks or any colors you knew you may not be coming home.I remember when You saw another blood you aint know it was love&you was family.Ask about ck wayne who use to ride around with dead crips in his trunk&pull up&pop the trunk&be like this how wayne get down,dude a mo now.Ask bout deuce tone,white side,static beam R.I.P. snake ru R.I.P. dorcy,looney big trigga lil trigga smoke&tone rainbow amg los tweety bird loc freeze etc.These dudes now dont bang they wear these colors for fashion we use to do it playing with our life.DEUCE I aint knocking you homeboy you you young wouldnt know the politics but if you decide to get back into this I can put you intouch with some of the first bloods&a few crips.If you look on youtube los from bulletproof records from A.M.G. got a song&you hear em talking bout bizmark after the song.Write him carlos vaughn he doing life on a murder he know it all he was there since the beginning,check out his old songs on bulletproof anyone was around in the 90s remember the yellow cd?But square business F banging now days in the lou its bout hood it&personal beef aint no unity...anyone who knows anything gangs aint cool dope aint cool.I was 16 tryd as an adult sitting in a mans prison gangbangin b een in 5 times.Bangin aint get me nothin I talked to barley noone I grew up with from my hood they all dead dope fiend out or in the joint.SCHOOL&FAMILY thats wheres its all.Its alot of smart young men who made wrong choices thats burried in back yards&alot of guys doing life for a murder cause they killed somebody over they set that dont even exsist nomore.Lot of good people dead allright Sorry so long&it aint even a tenth of the story.If you wanna make this movie learn about the sets that died out the lou got alot of ghost sets btw only hoovers was ever in st.louis was 107s&83s& all the clicking up you talk about is just strategys that come&go,came&went you.Never heard of no vngs here either.Only 83s was from 45 field MUCH LOVE TO THEY O.G. HI-C&his lil brother from 57 cates mob fook.Yea so st.louis it is what it is.If you aint live it you wouldnt get it.Props deuce for trying to do something with your self.My bad my typing skills blow.Well Stay up blood.

cutthroat · Unread post by **cutthroat** » November 29th, 2010, 6:23 pm

&my bad I think the gang around the time of the rockers spelling was hadly boys Im ah have to ask.Also I think dude name was spelled dorsey.&they was the first real crip set not the pac.&Dontbelive all the stuff yall see on tv.

Unread post by **Young Deuce** » January 28th, 2011, 7:41 am

yeah i could a used some of this info...i only knew about dorsey, b.o.d. and 55 horseshoe and Tweety Bird Loc (he was a OG in the ville frm N.M.G)...the big homie who i was about to get info from got killed.....V.II.P. Pooh Kcat (and V.II.P to the homie Rev) ....i knew nothin about the gangs befo Cs n Bs came n i was lookin 4 it to...the 62 kitchen was a typo i meant to put 62 ECC and it is some more hoovers...Dub 1-9 claim 1-9 hoover and 39 Ashland claim 1-9 hoover...but this gang shit dying..prolly to be reborn like it did befo like it did in the early 90s n claim back in the early 2000s...but i stopped the shit...i got older and some shit about the gang life i grew up on just wasnt important...got outta that shit n im on my grind....

Stlerr · Unread post by **Stlerr** » June 13th, 2011, 8:08 pm

i'm a OG from The B.O.D'z and Bodz were around since the late 70's, Dorsey didnt start BOD'z. We got OG'z thats in thier 50's reppin. I"m 32, so dorsey was like 4 year older then me rainbow is like 2 years older. BOD'z came from CHicago from one of the OG"Z and when that generation got lock up, the structure got lost, so the mid-80s generation started the crip generation One of my potnas daddy was from the NHC rollin 60's. he was a big time dope-boy that move to st.louis from La and put the BOD'z on the R60's crip. so BOD'z are a real rollin 60's crip, and real st.louis gang with history . And the History Channel did a lousy job hurry job. Dorsy got killed in 93, he was like 17-18, i was like 13-14, rainbow was 2 years older then me. So he did not start bodz, but he made it what it is

Stlerr · Unread post by **Stlerr** » June 13th, 2011, 8:33 pm

@cutthroat
the 62 kitchens and the ville blood click up becuz the leader of both of them are cousin. they were at a family get together and they were like hell naw...we enemies and cousin...so they stop beefing and click up....maybe thats way at the workhouse niggas click up 2...and or course they had a common enemy St.louis rollin 60's and i say it like that cuz...HUH...62 KITCHEN ECC claim NHC in LA....THEY COOL WITH 60'S IN LA...BUT HERE IN THE LOU...IF YOU A 62 KITCHEN CRIP , ECC WHATEVER.... AND COME TO THE LOU THINKING YOU ALL GOOD IN A R60'S HOOD....****IT AINT ALL GOOD**** HOMIE. STILL TO THIS DAY I HATE VILLE NIGGAS....LOL....MY LIL BROTHER HAD TO GO TO SUMNER H/S SO U KNOW WHAT TIME THAT WAS....Westside...thats a strike...a Bodz nigga another strike...dont get caught wearing blue and yellow..ANOTHER STRIKE....shit....LOL...and shit is confusing cuz these niggas are so called crips but they click up with bloods....strange aint it. I use to think they were 62 brims, cuz i thought they were bloods hating on us...and when i got older and under stood they were crips also i was like ...these niggas hate us more then the bloods...lol. i dont see them as real crips. I use to drive the bombpop truck in they hood and i would see 1 nigga with a blue rag and another nigga with a red rag click up...niggas with KC hatS with Red on the KC, some niggas wearing red and blue....CRAZY

Unread post by **Young Deuce** » June 17th, 2011, 9:07 pm

^^^Bang Bang Ville Gang lol but 4 real...the alliances in st louis is all fucked up....6 Deuces (62 ECC) dont claim Kitchen..except them fake ass county niggas....some still go by NHC (like College N Carter) but none claim kitchen....alot of 60 niggas always think that but its just a close ass alliance because 60z n 62 dont fuck with each other plus tweety bird started 62 in the hood n it was already alot of 87 Kitchen crips in the hood...thats what started the 2z n 7z alliance...and ECC and Kitchens HATE each other in LA...62 being cool with Kitchens started that whole beef with the 60z...60z is confusing tho because every 60 dont go by the same alliance...some of yall fuck with hoovers (Dub 7 Marcus Mob got 60z n hoovers in they hood) and some of yall HATE hoovers (41 Lex vs 39 Ashland) and its even some thats cool with 62z (33 Blue)...ECC and Kitchens really dont fuck with neither one forreal....especially Penrose & CNC 6 deuces...i was riding down florrisant and i saw big ass day "Fukc DST, CNC, 62 NHC, 2 Crip or No Crip)....shit crazy tho...but what happen to BOD? i heard yall used to be a BIG factor back in the day...did yall lose territory? i know yall got crazy beef all around yall...1400 dont like yall...55 dipset dont like yall...11 dont 10/4 dont...but i dont fuck with the west period forreal...the whole side grimy lol 4real you even got bloods beefin with bloods over there...but then again thats why i left that life alone 4real...shit confusing and backwards as fuck...

Unread post by **Young Deuce** » June 17th, 2011, 11:13 pm

im trippin Tweety Bird was a Kitchen...the big homie Coast G was a 2 n brought the deuces in the hood...its more 2s in the hood then kitchens now but everybody still rock KC hats because its more of a hood thing then anything...most of the kitchens live on 44 CBF now...youll see alot of niggas screamin 442 ville now cuz 44 got a big presence then it did back in the day...its crazy i never seen a 2 wear blue and brown...the new wave of gang bangin niggas adopted the kitchen colors...n it is 62 Brims in the ville...thats what i claimed...til this day i will holla 2z 4z 7z...kuz thats how i grew up....

Stlerr · Unread post by **Stlerr** » June 19th, 2011, 11:28 pm

Young Deuce wrote:^^^Bang Bang Ville Gang lol but 4 real...the alliances in st louis is all #%@& up....6 Deuces (62 ECC) dont claim Kitchen..except them fake ass county niggas....some still go by NHC (like College N Carter) but none claim kitchen....alot of 60 niggas always think that but its just a close ass alliance because 60z n 62 dont fu-- with each other plus tweety bird started 62 in the hood n it was already alot of 87 Kitchen crips in the hood...thats what started the 2z n 7z alliance...and ECC and Kitchens HATE each other in LA...62 being cool with Kitchens started that whole beef with the 60z...60z is confusing tho because every 60 dont go by the same alliance...some of yall fu-- with hoovers (Dub 7 Marcus Mob got 60z n hoovers in they hood) and some of yall HATE hoovers (41 Lex vs 39 Ashland) and its even some thats cool with 62z (33 Blue)...ECC and Kitchens really dont fu-- with neither one forreal....especially Penrose & CNC 6 deuces...i was riding down florrisant and i saw big ass day "#%@& DST, CNC, 62 NHC, 2 Crip or No Crip)....shit crazy tho...but what happen to BOD? i heard yall used to be a BIG factor back in the day...did yall lose territory? i know yall got crazy beef all around yall...1400 dont like yall...55 dipset dont like yall...11 dont 10/4 dont...but i dont fu-- with the west period forreal...the whole side grimy lol 4real you even got bloods beefin with bloods over there...but then again thats why i left that life alone 4real...shit confusing and backwards as fu--...

Yeah BOD'z are still around its just the younger generation click up and started the 57. The 57 OG's are BOD'z regardless if they know it or not. So basically delmar to MLK is ...57 or BOD'z. And just like when i was little,we dont get no love from nobody on the West cuz, we the only crips other then the Skan...everything else is blood. YOU got 58 pershing bloods to the south(thats the weak ass devaliber&skinner), 11 hodiamont and wellston bloods to the west, horseshoe to the north and other westside bloods to the east. We sittin on a island...lol. You gotta go through a blood set, catching the bus, getting gas, going work..etc.

MichaelWatkins · Unread post by **MichaelWatkins** » January 8th, 2017, 4:53 pm

The one brother gave the history of St .Louis gangs at a 100% accuracy. He even put in stuff about Overland I knew nothing about. St. Louis originals were put on based on dope. Cali gangs got respect because they helped individuals get money. The West side of STL and Walnut Park and STL county got put thru dope. Original crack sets/dope sets still exist because of how they started, DOPE. Everybody else were wannabees. Im kinda running thru. I became a Blood hanging on a Original set back in 1990, 45 Oakland. Then I went to Baden. RIP Pocket T. I lived thru this. I witnessed many die, go to prison and become crack heads, heroin addicts or penniteniary fags getting caught up in shit they really had no direct tie with. Spent years (18yrs) in the joint because I got caught believing I was a Blood. When niggaz was just tryna get paid. Crips and Bloods the worse thing that happened. They were given control of the crack trade, and therefore the spread of gangs.

MichaelWatkins · Unread post by **MichaelWatkins** » January 8th, 2017, 5:35 pm

The one brother gave the history of St .Louis gangs at a 100% accuracy. He even put in stuff about Overland I knew nothing about. St. Louis originals were put on based on dope. Cali gangs got respect because they helped individuals get money. The West side of STL and Walnut Park and STL county got put thru dope. Original crack sets/dope sets still exist because of how they started, DOPE. Everybody else were wannabees. Im kinda running thru. I became a Blood hanging on a Original set back in 1990, 45 Oakland. Then I went to Baden. RIP Pocket T. I lived thru this. I witnessed many die, go to prison and become crack heads, heroin addicts or penniteniary fags getting caught up in shit they really had no direct tie with. Spent years (18yrs) in the joint because I got caught believing I was a Blood. When niggaz was just tryna get paid. Crips and Bloods the worse thing that happened. They were given control of the crack trade, and therefore the spread of gangs.

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