Protest Against Nazi March In Ohio Turns Violent, Six People

[Christina Marie]

A slightly different version, a little more info

11:40 AM PDT, October 15, 2005 l
Protest Against Nazi March In Ohio Turns Violent, Six People Arrested
From Associated Press

TOLEDO, Ohio -- A crowd that gathered to protest a white supremacists' march today turned violent, throwing baseball-sized rocks at police and vandalizing vehicles.

Six people were arrested and police, fire and media vehicles were damaged, Police Chief Mike Navarre said.

At least two dozen members of the Roanoke, Va.-based National Socialist Movement, which calls itself "America's Nazi Party," gathered at a city park to march under police protection. Organizers said they were demonstrating against black gangs that were harassing white residents.

The march was canceled, and the violence broke out about a quarter mile away from the park along the planned route.

Keith White, a black resident, criticized city officials for initially allowing the march.

"They let them come here and expect this not to happen?" said White, 29.

Two hours after authorities called off the march, 150 officers in helicopters and cruisers and on foot, bicycles and horses continued to chase bands of youths.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... -headlines

[leftcoast]

holy toledo

[Christina Marie]

holy toledo

[MiChuhSuh]

This is EXACTLY what the supremecists dudes were HOPING for. The whole point was to cause a riot which would end up with 2 things:

1. Black people looking violent/senseless

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2. The police being forced to protect the retard supremecists that they themselves want to hurt and hate with a passion.

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3. The tension between the local people and police.

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[Christina Marie]

This is EXACTLY what the supremecists dudes were HOPING for. The whole point was to cause a riot which would end up with 2 things:

1. Black people looking violent/senseless

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2. The police being forced to protect the retard supremecists that they themselves want to hurt and hate with a passion.

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3. The tension between the local people and police.



Good observation, you nailed it and you are correct, they certainly did suceed didnt they?
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[MiChuhSuh]

The police shief was doing an interview looking mad frustrated. He said he honestly would of let the racists dudes get punked but that would violate both the role of police and the protection of the 1st Ammendmant (to expression, etc).

He said "We had a legal obligation to protect them, and yes, that's sound very digusting, but we were basically forced too."

He said that the group was SENT IN all the way from some place out in Virginia to start a riot they planned for months. He even thinks they paid off some of teh black dudes to start the beggining of the riot. I mean, they were throwing bricks at AMBULENCES, and RANDOMLY STARTED FIRES. Even the people in the riot were looking at those dudes and were shouting "What the f-ck are you doing?" Crazy.

[deepneedle]

Seeing all of those thieves running in and out of that store during the "riot" reminded me of a bunch of roaches scurrying around.

Gave me the creeps.

[leftcoast]

u sound like a typical undercover racist white person ^^
so the nazi's didnt give u the creeps? people that base their lives on Hating others? even though they know better

some of the looters r uneducated and ignorant, they dont base their whole lives aournd hate like the nazis, but u call the looters creeps,

[youngwun]

They trying to say it was gang members that wer involved. What gangs? I'm not familiar with Toldeo's gang scene.

The nazi's expected that shit to go down and our people fell for it. Regardless, it was good to see a white police chief disgusted with those motherfuckers.

[Red Rum56]

I think the NSM had some good intelligence on the situation in Toledo. The reaction of the blacks was, of course, predictable. The initial non-reaction of the police was not. Looks like the local politicians chose not to offend the "locals" by breaking up their little party.I'm happy the NSM had the decency to get out when the shit hit the fan.

[deepneedle]

If I were undercover, then I wouldn't be posting.

I am white (but nevertheless, not undercover).

I am a Jew. Many family members of mine were murdered during the Holocost. Lucky for me, my grandparents had already left Europe about 25 years earlier. Otherwise, I would never have been born.

I HATE Nazis. In April of this year, I was in Thailand. I decided to take a little tour around Phuket. I was "paired" with an old man who would have been just the right age to have been in the Nazi party, as a Hitler youth if nothing else.

At one point he and I were in a small boat, together. He sat in front. I sat in back, and the guy rowing the boat sat behind us both. The man was German.

I noticed a ring on his right hand's ring finger. It had a large, dark stone in the middle. Engraved in the stone was the Nazi insignia. It was inlayed with gold. "SS" in the shape of lightning bolts was engraved in the gold band on either side of the stone.

This rat-bastard had probably been wearing that ring since he was nineteen years old. After I saw the ring, I refused to continue the tour along with that Nazi. So, I went on by myself.

So, do I like Nazis? No, absolutely not. I hate them.

Do I like free speech? I love free speech. I hate Nazis, but if we try to silence them, then we allow ourselves to be silenced, too, when the day comes that what we have to say is something with which the majority of Americans disagree.

I have a lot more to say on the subject of free speech. I spent seven months in China, this past year. For now, I'll just say that websites like this one are inaccessible from the Chinese internet.

I'll tell you, if people were raiding my store like those scumbags were in Ohio, I would have had my machine gun out and I would have been picking those thieves off, one by one, or more if possible. You would, too, if that were your store or your house.

You people shoot each other for much smaller stuff, like a missing gram of cocaine during a drug transaction, so I can't imagine that if your house was being raided by your neighbors, you'd just sit by and let it happen.

-DN

[deepneedle]

It is perfectly okay to counter a protest. It's NOT okay to invade somebody's business, who was NOT a Nazi and who HAD NOTHING to do with the scumbag Nazis who decided to have their march.

[A Ghost]

It's interesting how riots seem to all follow a similar agenda.

First something racial happens. Whether it be a beating or a homicide.

Then the residents who are outraged at the atrocities want vengence.

So everybody decides to walk down the street to the corner and burn something down because that will teach the racists a lesson.

Even though that bar or store is owned by their nieghbor. Good Job guys!

Because setting fire to a business that economically supports the community is good because it teaches the racists a lesson!



You know what the Nazi's were doing? They were sitting back laughing because they accompished what they came to do.

EndViolenceNow said it perfectly. They knew the people would act stupid, they knew that the police would have to react.

They knew that it was not going to go well. They knew how the residents would react.

The white residents don't care! That wasn't their neighborhood!

Who were they teaching a lesson to!? The mayor?

The article said that someone in the crowd threatened to shoot the mayor.

Why? Because the mayor is a huge racist and supports Nazi's? THE MAYOR IS BLACK! HELLO!

When you react that way you bring yourself down to the level of the person who commited the actocity in the first place.

It's amazing trying to figure out what goes through peoples heads.

[Dr. Gonzo]

I noticed a ring on his right hand's ring finger. It had a large, dark stone in the middle. Engraved in the stone was the Nazi insignia. It was inlayed with gold. "SS" in the shape of lightning bolts was engraved in the gold band on either side of the stone.

This rat-bastard had probably been wearing that ring since he was nineteen years old. After I saw the ring, I refused to continue the tour along with that Nazi. So, I went on by myself.

So, do I like Nazis? No, absolutely not. I hate them.

-DN

Their were also Jews in the SS and they were called "Mischlinge", but, I respect the fact you decided to leave the tour.

[youngwun]

Those nazi fucks would love to assume that the violence that occured was just blacks being animals, but if anything, to me, the initial reaction (not the looting) was a sign that we (as people, not just blacks) wont stand up for that shit. Freedom of speech is fine, that's why we have ckhurches, political parties who own storefronts/offices, etc., but we can CkHOOSE to go to those places. Don't march down our streets preaching hate.

[MiChuhSuh]

They trying to say it was gang members that wer involved. What gangs? I'm not familiar with Toldeo's gang scene.

The nazi's expected that shit to go down and our people fell for it. Regardless, it was good to see a white police chief disgusted with those motherfuckers.

Ya if feel sorry for that dude. He was forced to have to protect them, that sucks.

Imagine if out of nowhere your OG (talking to everyone here) suddenly said yall had to protect this march, that's a serious confilct of interest there (well, unless you're NLR or AB, but in that case imagine being forced to protect violently militant Black nationalists or whatever the equivalent is)

[Red Rum56]

Those nazi fucks would love to assume that the violence that occured was just blacks being animals, but if anything, to me, the initial reaction (not the looting) was a sign that we (as people, not just blacks) wont stand up for that shit. Freedom of speech is fine, that's why we have ckhurches, political parties who own storefronts/offices, etc., but we can CkHOOSE to go to those places. Don't march down our streets preaching hate.

There is no excuse for looting business and if you can't handle white people being down for their own then you should leave the country son.

[MiChuhSuh]

Those nazi fucks would love to assume that the violence that occured was just blacks being animals, but if anything, to me, the initial reaction (not the looting) was a sign that we (as people, not just blacks) wont stand up for that shit. Freedom of speech is fine, that's why we have ckhurches, political parties who own storefronts/offices, etc., but we can CkHOOSE to go to those places. Don't march down our streets preaching hate.

There were initial reports that the Nazi dudes paid the initial looters to do that, to make black people look bad. Those are disgraceful sellouts, making their own people look like that.

[Christina Marie]

If I were undercover, then I wouldn't be posting.

I am white (but nevertheless, not undercover).

I am a Jew. Many family members of mine were murdered during the Holocost. Lucky for me, my grandparents had already left Europe about 25 years earlier. Otherwise, I would never have been born.

I HATE Nazis. In April of this year, I was in Thailand. I decided to take a little tour around Phuket. I was "paired" with an old man who would have been just the right age to have been in the Nazi party, as a Hitler youth if nothing else.

At one point he and I were in a small boat, together. He sat in front. I sat in back, and the guy rowing the boat sat behind us both. The man was German.

I noticed a ring on his right hand's ring finger. It had a large, dark stone in the middle. Engraved in the stone was the Nazi insignia. It was inlayed with gold. "SS" in the shape of lightning bolts was engraved in the gold band on either side of the stone.

This rat-bastard had probably been wearing that ring since he was nineteen years old. After I saw the ring, I refused to continue the tour along with that Nazi. So, I went on by myself.

So, do I like Nazis? No, absolutely not. I hate them.

Do I like free speech? I love free speech. I hate Nazis, but if we try to silence them, then we allow ourselves to be silenced, too, when the day comes that what we have to say is something with which the majority of Americans disagree.

I have a lot more to say on the subject of free speech. I spent seven months in China, this past year. For now, I'll just say that websites like this one are inaccessible from the Chinese internet.

I'll tell you, if people were raiding my store like those scumbags were in Ohio, I would have had my machine gun out and I would have been picking those thieves off, one by one, or more if possible. You would, too, if that were your store or your house.

You people shoot each other for much smaller stuff, like a missing gram of cocaine during a drug transaction, so I can't imagine that if your house was being raided by your neighbors, you'd just sit by and let it happen.

-DN

No. sh*t, he was a war criminal and obviously had not come to have any remorse for the crimes the Nazi's committed. I would have been making a phone call.

[youngwun]

There is no excuse for looting business and if you can't handle white people being down for their own then you should leave the country son.

I said the INITIAL reaction. Learn to read smart, white man. You are obviously one with a very fucked viewpoint on "pride" because last I ckhecked "being down for your people" didnt mean preaching hate and violence on people of kolor.

And kut out the stereotypical "son" talk man. Might have pissed off all the other little "niggers" in your neighborhood but I'm not a button you can push.

[Christina Marie]

Gentlemen.......back to you're corners! Lets keep it clean! I have been reading this thread and I am extremely impressed by the levels of intelligence and insight that are being shared here. You are all some SMART cookies!

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[1OldSchool]

If I were undercover, then I wouldn't be posting.

I am white (but nevertheless, not undercover).

I am a Jew. Many family members of mine were murdered during the Holocost. Lucky for me, my grandparents had already left Europe about 25 years earlier. Otherwise, I would never have been born.

I HATE Nazis. In April of this year, I was in Thailand. I decided to take a little tour around Phuket. I was "paired" with an old man who would have been just the right age to have been in the Nazi party, as a Hitler youth if nothing else.

At one point he and I were in a small boat, together. He sat in front. I sat in back, and the guy rowing the boat sat behind us both. The man was German.

I noticed a ring on his right hand's ring finger. It had a large, dark stone in the middle. Engraved in the stone was the Nazi insignia. It was inlayed with gold. "SS" in the shape of lightning bolts was engraved in the gold band on either side of the stone.

This rat-bastard had probably been wearing that ring since he was nineteen years old. After I saw the ring, I refused to continue the tour along with that Nazi. So, I went on by myself.

So, do I like Nazis? No, absolutely not. I hate them.

Do I like free speech? I love free speech. I hate Nazis, but if we try to silence them, then we allow ourselves to be silenced, too, when the day comes that what we have to say is something with which the majority of Americans disagree.

I have a lot more to say on the subject of free speech. I spent seven months in China, this past year. For now, I'll just say that websites like this one are inaccessible from the Chinese internet.

I'll tell you, if people were raiding my store like those scumbags were in Ohio, I would have had my machine gun out and I would have been picking those thieves off, one by one, or more if possible. You would, too, if that were your store or your house.

You people shoot each other for much smaller stuff, like a missing gram of cocaine during a drug transaction, so I can't imagine that if your house was being raided by your neighbors, you'd just sit by and let it happen.

-DN

Just like the jews silence the Palestinians your a hipocrit fooling nobody.

[1OldSchool]

And your an uneducated rat

If I were undercover, then I wouldn't be posting.

I am white (but nevertheless, not undercover).

I am a Jew. Many family members of mine were murdered during the Holocost. Lucky for me, my grandparents had already left Europe about 25 years earlier. Otherwise, I would never have been born.

I HATE Nazis. In April of this year, I was in Thailand. I decided to take a little tour around Phuket. I was "paired" with an old man who would have been just the right age to have been in the Nazi party, as a Hitler youth if nothing else.

At one point he and I were in a small boat, together. He sat in front. I sat in back, and the guy rowing the boat sat behind us both. The man was German.

I noticed a ring on his right hand's ring finger. It had a large, dark stone in the middle. Engraved in the stone was the Nazi insignia. It was inlayed with gold. "SS" in the shape of lightning bolts was engraved in the gold band on either side of the stone.

This rat-bastard had probably been wearing that ring since he was nineteen years old. After I saw the ring, I refused to continue the tour along with that Nazi. So, I went on by myself.

So, do I like Nazis? No, absolutely not. I hate them.

Do I like free speech? I love free speech. I hate Nazis, but if we try to silence them, then we allow ourselves to be silenced, too, when the day comes that what we have to say is something with which the majority of Americans disagree.

I have a lot more to say on the subject of free speech. I spent seven months in China, this past year. For now, I'll just say that websites like this one are inaccessible from the Chinese internet.

I'll tell you, if people were raiding my store like those scumbags were in Ohio, I would have had my machine gun out and I would have been picking those thieves off, one by one, or more if possible. You would, too, if that were your store or your house.

You people shoot each other for much smaller stuff, like a missing gram of cocaine during a drug transaction, so I can't imagine that if your house was being raided by your neighbors, you'd just sit by and let it happen.

-DN

No. sh*t, he was a war criminal and obviously had not come to have any remorse for the crimes the Nazi's committed. I would have been making a phone call.

[Guage12]

Man I just saw that nazi shit on the news......FUC those white trash racist faggots...

[Dunn]

Fuck these nazi's they don't deserve the protection of the first ammendment for free speech and assembly because it clearl states in that ammendment that freedom of speech is not viable if they're assembly presents a clear and present danger... There is no denying the fact that they knew what the response would be when they went to Toledo. Also, when they were there those marks spit on and disrespected a black woman, I wouldn't let some thunderbolt rockin mother fucker thinkin he Thor from some saturday morning cartoon disrespectin a woman like that in my neighborhood. And those stores that got looted were hit because they had a history of rascist and or exclusionary tendencies.

[youngwun]

Also, notice they went to Toledo, not Harlem, South Central, New Orleans or Chicago.

[Christina Marie]

Who is an uneducated rat??? Why don't you educate us 1OldSchool since you want to be telling others how uneducated they are.??? And if you are calling me a rat for saying that I would report him for being a possible Nazi war criminal and participating in the extermination of over 6 million Jews, then not only are you the one who is uneducated, but you are a cold heartless MF'er as well.

And your an uneducated rat

If I were undercover, then I wouldn't be posting.

I am white (but nevertheless, not undercover).

I am a Jew. Many family members of mine were murdered during the Holocost. Lucky for me, my grandparents had already left Europe about 25 years earlier. Otherwise, I would never have been born.

I HATE Nazis. In April of this year, I was in Thailand. I decided to take a little tour around Phuket. I was "paired" with an old man who would have been just the right age to have been in the Nazi party, as a Hitler youth if nothing else.

At one point he and I were in a small boat, together. He sat in front. I sat in back, and the guy rowing the boat sat behind us both. The man was German.

I noticed a ring on his right hand's ring finger. It had a large, dark stone in the middle. Engraved in the stone was the Nazi insignia. It was inlayed with gold. "SS" in the shape of lightning bolts was engraved in the gold band on either side of the stone.

This rat-bastard had probably been wearing that ring since he was nineteen years old. After I saw the ring, I refused to continue the tour along with that Nazi. So, I went on by myself.

So, do I like Nazis? No, absolutely not. I hate them.

Do I like free speech? I love free speech. I hate Nazis, but if we try to silence them, then we allow ourselves to be silenced, too, when the day comes that what we have to say is something with which the majority of Americans disagree.

I have a lot more to say on the subject of free speech. I spent seven months in China, this past year. For now, I'll just say that websites like this one are inaccessible from the Chinese internet.

I'll tell you, if people were raiding my store like those scumbags were in Ohio, I would have had my machine gun out and I would have been picking those thieves off, one by one, or more if possible. You would, too, if that were your store or your house.

You people shoot each other for much smaller stuff, like a missing gram of cocaine during a drug transaction, so I can't imagine that if your house was being raided by your neighbors, you'd just sit by and let it happen.

-DN

No. sh*t, he was a war criminal and obviously had not come to have any remorse for the crimes the Nazi's committed. I would have been making a phone call.

[Christina Marie]

And just for the record......I won't rat on my crimee or nothing like that, but if I have first hand knowledge of somebody doing wrong, like molesting a kid or straight killing an innocent person f*cking A straight I am going to give them up! NOW THATS OLD SCHOOL!

And your an uneducated rat

If I were undercover, then I wouldn't be posting.

I am white (but nevertheless, not undercover).

I am a Jew. Many family members of mine were murdered during the Holocost. Lucky for me, my grandparents had already left Europe about 25 years earlier. Otherwise, I would never have been born.

I HATE Nazis. In April of this year, I was in Thailand. I decided to take a little tour around Phuket. I was "paired" with an old man who would have been just the right age to have been in the Nazi party, as a Hitler youth if nothing else.

At one point he and I were in a small boat, together. He sat in front. I sat in back, and the guy rowing the boat sat behind us both. The man was German.

I noticed a ring on his right hand's ring finger. It had a large, dark stone in the middle. Engraved in the stone was the Nazi insignia. It was inlayed with gold. "SS" in the shape of lightning bolts was engraved in the gold band on either side of the stone.

This rat-bastard had probably been wearing that ring since he was nineteen years old. After I saw the ring, I refused to continue the tour along with that Nazi. So, I went on by myself.

So, do I like Nazis? No, absolutely not. I hate them.

Do I like free speech? I love free speech. I hate Nazis, but if we try to silence them, then we allow ourselves to be silenced, too, when the day comes that what we have to say is something with which the majority of Americans disagree.

I have a lot more to say on the subject of free speech. I spent seven months in China, this past year. For now, I'll just say that websites like this one are inaccessible from the Chinese internet.

I'll tell you, if people were raiding my store like those scumbags were in Ohio, I would have had my machine gun out and I would have been picking those thieves off, one by one, or more if possible. You would, too, if that were your store or your house.

You people shoot each other for much smaller stuff, like a missing gram of cocaine during a drug transaction, so I can't imagine that if your house was being raided by your neighbors, you'd just sit by and let it happen.

-DN

No. sh*t, he was a war criminal and obviously had not come to have any remorse for the crimes the Nazi's committed. I would have been making a phone call.

[A Ghost]

And just for the record......I won't rat on my crimee or nothing like that, but if I have first hand knowledge of somebody doing wrong, like molesting a kid or straight killing an innocent person f*cking A straight I am going to give them up! NOW THATS OLD SCHOOL!

LMAO!! I think you won that one.

Also, notice they went to Toledo, not Harlem, South Central, New Orleans or Chicago.

What is Toledo like?

fu-- these nazi's they don't deserve the protection of the first ammendment for free speech and assembly because it clearly states in that ammendment that freedom of speech is not viable if they're assembly presents a clear and present danger... There is no denying the fact that they knew what the response would be when they went to Toledo. Also, when they were there those marks spit on and disrespected a black woman, I wouldn't let some thunderbolt rockin mother fucker thinkin he Thor from some saturday morning cartoon disrespectin a woman like that in my neighborhood. And those stores that got looted were hit because they had a history of racist and or exclusionary tendencies.

The crowd should not have thrown rocks at the police. If anything throw them at the nazi's.

However violence is not the answer. Rise above the hate and show the ignorant bigots that they can't win.

[Christina Marie]

And just for the record......I won't rat on my crimee or nothing like that, but if I have first hand knowledge of somebody doing wrong, like molesting a kid or straight killing an innocent person f*cking A straight I am going to give them up! NOW THATS OLD SCHOOL!

LMAO!! I think you won that one.

Also, notice they went to Toledo, not Harlem, South Central, New Orleans or Chicago.

What is Toledo like?

fu-- these nazi's they don't deserve the protection of the first ammendment for free speech and assembly because it clearly states in that ammendment that freedom of speech is not viable if they're assembly presents a clear and present danger... There is no denying the fact that they knew what the response would be when they went to Toledo. Also, when they were there those marks spit on and disrespected a black woman, I wouldn't let some thunderbolt rockin mother fucker thinkin he Thor from some saturday morning cartoon disrespectin a woman like that in my neighborhood. And those stores that got looted were hit because they had a history of racist and or exclusionary tendencies.

The crowd should not have thrown rocks at the police. If anything throw them at the nazi's.

However violence is not the answer. Rise above the hate and show the ignorant bigots that they can't win.

Just telling him like it is

[Peddi-P]

im from the land which a kouple hours from toledo, i aint know it was like that down there, i know up here in a little suburb some shit happend when the nazie kame like twenty deep to a karnival and started stabbin motha fuckas, shit wish they bome around here with that BS

[Q]

those was bloods that was out there. yall aint seen dudes in red throwin it up