Do Cali bangers approve of crips and bloods in n.y?

[freebanger]

NXGGAS IN CAL! W!LL ONLY RESPECT YOUR SHXT !F YOU HOLDXN YOUR SHXT DOWN YA HEARD

CRXPS CAN mess WXTH FOLKS AT THEY OWN INTENT ITS AN OPTION.

how more FAKE can you get then this shit he just said , !! LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !! , lol

[SmoshBro]

NXGGAS IN CAL! W!LL ONLY RESPECT YOUR SHXT !F YOU HOLDXN YOUR SHXT DOWN YA HEARD

CRXPS CAN mess WXTH FOLKS AT THEY OWN INTENT ITS AN OPTION.

Why did you cross out the I's and not the O's?? Never seen this before

[CHOPPERLOC]

CROSS OUT THE EYES CUZ 20Z DONT FUCC WXTH !NSANE CRXPS

[Mcminister]

so how do u blurr out the I when u speaking lol?

[CHOPPERLOC]

so how do u blurr out the I when u speaking lol?

LAME

[freebanger]

hes in parkchester in bronx newyork calling hiss self a rollin 20 crips ...how lame is that . he claiming a neighborhood in long beach california and crossing out letters of a another gang in california FROM THE BRONX on the other side of the country LAME !! this dude never been to california except in fantasy every month its a new fake crip or blood damn this pop culture LOL

[Mcminister]

hes in parkchester in bronx newyork calling hiss self a rollin 20 crips ...how lame is that . he claiming a neighborhood in long beach california and crossing out letters of a another gang in california FROM THE BRONX on the other side of the country LAME !! this dude never been to california except in fantasy every month its a new fake crip or blood damn this pop culture LOL

lolol Cosign

[CHOPPERLOC]

IM BANGING FROM ACROSS THE COUNRTY STOP SUCCIN MY DXCC THROUGH UR COMPUTER

[Silencioso]

IM BANGING FROM ACROSS THE COUNRTY STOP SUCCIN MY DXCC THROUGH UR COMPUTER

You're in Parkchester? Isn't that a white hood?

[DCDamu]

Who gives a fu-- who originated what? The niggas that started the shit are mostly dead anyway, soldier on niggas.
You don't see Mexicans arguing amongst each other over what city they shit started in, they just bang on the brothers
regardless. You don't see #%@&#%@ Italians disputing which city in Italy their respective family came from. Because at this
point in time, it doesn't matter, what matters is where you at now and what you're doing with your time. Niggas who got
a gang with some organization to them need to focus more on what they can do to lessen their casualties and make that
paper.

[CHOPPERLOC]

SAY NO MORE COME TO PARKC^HESTER AND C WAT !M ABOUT FUC BKOYS

[Mcminister]

damn i don think even a real crip triple OG writes letters to his homies from jail like you type on the internet

[CHOPPERLOC]

! DONT TH!NK M!ILKvY N!GGAS L!KE YOU SHOULD WORRY AbKOUT CR!P SHXT YOUR NOT LOC^ GO C^UFF A bKroad or sum shxt

[Mcminister]

now u speakin my language..fo real u 100% rite my nigga

[BronxGurl]

It depends! I know Cali g's don't like that 5 & 6 star stuff or that 8 ball stuff either. Cali bloods also don't like that UBN crap. And I know that don't like fakes claiming Blood and going to Cali wearing purple rags....lol. They obviously got love for the gangs that migrated from cali. I'm sure this whole post goes without saying!

[Myself]

CHOPPER LOC is the fakest wannnabe crip on here he a black gang groupie way to obvious he never been to claifornia in his life and never seen a REAL rollin 20s crip ever besides studying snoop dogg and internet gangsites man this is so bad these days these guys are lost and living a make believe world

[CHOPPERLOC]

LMAO U NOT EVEN CRXP TO EVEN CALL A NXGGA FAKE LMAO STOP SUCCXN DXCC AND BECOME A GANGMEMBER BEFORE U WORRY ABOUT ONE

[coastie]

http://streetgangs.com/billboard/viewtopic.php?f=289&t=42476&start=120

[Chuccky]

Who gives a fu-- who originated what? The niggas that started the shit are mostly dead anyway, soldier on niggas.
You don't see Mexicans arguing amongst each other over what city they shit started in, they just bang on the brothers
regardless. You don't see #%@&#%@ Italians disputing which city in Italy their respective family came from. Because at this
point in time, it doesn't matter, what matters is where you at now and what you're doing with your time. Niggas who got
a gang with some organization to them need to focus more on what they can do to lessen their casualties and make that
paper.

this nigga right who gives a fuck if it started in LA you dont here Italians say hey that mafia family is fake or Mexicans call mexicans outside LA phoney they unite shit like that make a crime mob make mad money. while black people we allways fighting with eachother and shit fuck Raymond Washington nigga got smoked by his homie long time ago if he didnt make crips someone else would. and who said you la niggaz run shit say what goes i like la but most you og's homies dead who said you run shit now? you niggaz gotta start stop funking with niggaz 2 blocks from you make some money man they way shits poppin for you niggaz right now you niggaz aint making bread like you should

[Myself]

CALIFORNIA GANGS DONT APPROVE OF ANYTHING THAT IS NOT FROM THERE HOOD IF YOU AINT NEVER BEEN OUT TO THERE NEIGHBORHOOD AND GOT UP WITH THEM YOU ARE NOT A CRIP OR BLOOD YOU WILL SEE EASTCOAST CRIP AND BLOOD MEMBERS IN CALIFORNIA THE REAL CONNECTED ONES THE HOODS IN CALI WILL TELL IT OPENLY IF THEY GOT GANGS IN NEWYORK AND SAY THE NAME OF THE INDIVIDUALS FROM THE EASTCOAST ,,,,,,BUT NEWYORK AND THE EASTCOAST IS PLAUGED WITH FAKES THAT FEELINGS ARE HURT BEING CALLED FAKES THERE I( NTERNET ONLINE PHONE CALL ) WANNABEE BANGERS LIKE CHOPPER LOC OBVIOUS NEWYORK FAKES THEY CAN BE CROSS COUNTRY PIMPED BY WESTCOAST NIGGAZ FOR ANYTHING

[Myself]

GET MONEY THATS ALL THAT MATTER MONEY CAN MAKE YOUR LIFE BETTER WANNABEES

[coastie]

CALIFORNIA GANGS DONT APPROVE OF ANYTHING THAT IS NOT FROM THERE HOOD IF YOU AINT NEVER BEEN OUT TO THERE NEIGHBORHOOD AND GOT UP WITH THEM YOU ARE NOT A CRIP OR BLOOD YOU WILL SEE EASTCOAST CRIP AND BLOOD MEMBERS IN CALIFORNIA THE REAL CONNECTED ONES THE HOODS IN CALI WILL TELL IT OPENLY IF THEY GOT GANGS IN NEWYORK AND SAY THE NAME OF THE INDIVIDUALS FROM THE EASTCOAST ,,,,,,BUT NEWYORK AND THE EASTCOAST IS PLAUGED WITH FAKES THAT FEELINGS ARE HURT BEING CALLED FAKES THERE I( NTERNET ONLINE PHONE CALL ) WANNABEE BANGERS LIKE CHOPPER LOC OBVIOUS NEWYORK FAKES THEY CAN BE CROSS COUNTRY PIMPED BY WESTCOAST NIGGAZ FOR ANYTHING

connection dont mean nothing. even if you connected you aint got no right saying you a crip or blood, thats just a tragedy people in LA go through, it had history behind it, some real events that lead la to be crips and bloods, but outta towners always deliberately try to get involved, try to be bloods and crips. thats called being a mark

[Elevation]

CALIFORNIA GANGS DONT APPROVE OF ANYTHING THAT IS NOT FROM THERE HOOD IF YOU AINT NEVER BEEN OUT TO THERE NEIGHBORHOOD AND GOT UP WITH THEM YOU ARE NOT A CRIP OR BLOOD YOU WILL SEE EASTCOAST CRIP AND BLOOD MEMBERS IN CALIFORNIA THE REAL CONNECTED ONES THE HOODS IN CALI WILL TELL IT OPENLY IF THEY GOT GANGS IN NEWYORK AND SAY THE NAME OF THE INDIVIDUALS FROM THE EASTCOAST ,,,,,,BUT NEWYORK AND THE EASTCOAST IS PLAUGED WITH FAKES THAT FEELINGS ARE HURT BEING CALLED FAKES THERE I( NTERNET ONLINE PHONE CALL ) WANNABEE BANGERS LIKE CHOPPER LOC OBVIOUS NEWYORK FAKES THEY CAN BE CROSS COUNTRY PIMPED BY WESTCOAST NIGGAZ FOR ANYTHING

connection dont mean nothing. even if you connected you aint got no right saying you a crip or blood, thats just a tragedy people in LA go through, it had history behind it, some real events that lead la to be crips and bloods, but outta towners always deliberately try to get involved, try to be bloods and crips. thats called being a mark

Like I said before, if you feel so strong against ny bloods and crips why dont you log off this site and go outside and start bangin on them niggaz? The fu-- you think you accomplishing by bitching on here with big ass paragraphs worth of usesless shit? Nigga, u in ny right now. Go outside and start lettin them niggaz know how u really feel or save this BS for the birds.

[coastie]

CALIFORNIA GANGS DONT APPROVE OF ANYTHING THAT IS NOT FROM THERE HOOD IF YOU AINT NEVER BEEN OUT TO THERE NEIGHBORHOOD AND GOT UP WITH THEM YOU ARE NOT A CRIP OR BLOOD YOU WILL SEE EASTCOAST CRIP AND BLOOD MEMBERS IN CALIFORNIA THE REAL CONNECTED ONES THE HOODS IN CALI WILL TELL IT OPENLY IF THEY GOT GANGS IN NEWYORK AND SAY THE NAME OF THE INDIVIDUALS FROM THE EASTCOAST ,,,,,,BUT NEWYORK AND THE EASTCOAST IS PLAUGED WITH FAKES THAT FEELINGS ARE HURT BEING CALLED FAKES THERE I( NTERNET ONLINE PHONE CALL ) WANNABEE BANGERS LIKE CHOPPER LOC OBVIOUS NEWYORK FAKES THEY CAN BE CROSS COUNTRY PIMPED BY WESTCOAST NIGGAZ FOR ANYTHING

connection dont mean nothing. even if you connected you aint got no right saying you a crip or blood, thats just a tragedy people in LA go through, it had history behind it, some real events that lead la to be crips and bloods, but outta towners always deliberately try to get involved, try to be bloods and crips. thats called being a mark

Like I said before, if you feel so strong against ny bloods and crips why dont you log off this site and go outside and start bangin on them niggaz? The fu-- you think you accomplishing by bitching on here with big ass paragraphs worth of usesless shit? Nigga, u in ny right now. Go outside and start lettin them niggaz know how u really feel or save this BS for the birds.

lol calm down homie you catchin feelings from the real shit i wrote. im just saying the truth so people could knwo those imitaters arent the real deal from los angeles

[Elevation]

lol calm down homie you catchin feelings from the real shit i wrote. im just saying the truth so people could knwo those imitaters arent the real deal from los angeles

Like I said before, It dont matter to me. I aint a fake blood or crip and I aint from NY. But you online shit talkers always talking about NY Bloods and Crips but dont be doin shit. Especially you, you actually inside NYC and you still aint doin shit but talkin shit online. Surrounded by the niggaz you talk shit about and wont do nothin but go online and vent ya stress like a little girl in her diary. Go outside and let niggaz know, you aint accomplishing ya lil mission by keepin it online.

[CHOPPERLOC]

THEM NxGGAS NOT EVEN xN GANGS THEY OP!N!ON DONT COUNT TO NOBKODY AT THE END OF THE DAY

CRXP THE FUCC ^^^^^

[coastie]

lmao you niggas read too deep and hard, i aint venting my stress or nuttin, shit it dont even effect me. i aint surrounded by these clowns or nuttin elevation i chose not to hang out with them i see them around my neighborhood and shit. its like i said, these ARE forums, happens to be about gangs, im just stating my facts on here. thats all. you lil girls are the ones catching feelings lmao getting all sensitive talkin about "how about you go outside and talk to them" LMAO. no thank you im not stupid i know whats going to happen if i call them fake, that shit is trouble.



"Got LA ties, so that mean yall gonna dick ride LA?? what went down in LA like 40 years ago went down in....LA! not new york, not chicago, not arizona, no seatle, not florida or the millions of other places on earth, it went down in the area of los angeles. this shit started with the OGs and there homies around them, it affected people lives in LOS ANGELES. niggas started becoming crips and bloods out here because that shit was out here and really crackin, niggas homies and family started getting dropped making them join up they hood and start bangin and shit. all that shit went down in LA, it affected poeple in LA.



how do you wake up one day in another city and say to yourself you want to be a crip or a blood when you didnt even live in los angeles and these tragedies didnt effect.

your a clown my nigga, just like every other blood or crip that doesnt live in los angeles, some how your lives are all about crippin and bein a blood now....how the freak does that happen?? that dont make no damn sense.

see it makes sense in los angeles. for ex: "pop squally" is a gang banger in la, and one day his enemies ride on him, then that effects HIS hood, his family, his homies etc etc, his lil bro gon prolly get put on the hood to bang on the suckas that killed his big brother.

^^ thats gang bangin, faggot. its all connected, its some real shit.

not when "pop squally" move out to texas or some shit, hook up with some niggas, they think he cool and they get put on his hood, and now all of a sudden those niggas are CK and BK and PK and GK and all that shit. how you gonna have emotions for something you havent experienced.

shit i aint the most articulate person so i tried to put it as best as possible for you dumb niggas"


see that thats what real crippin and bloodin is all about its all connected, these niggas in los angeles didnt just turn into crips and bloods because jim jones made it into a fad or nuttin, not because its the "in thing" in hip hop, thats what out of town niggas do. this is a real tragedy in los angeles its all real, these niggas didnt deliberately become bloods and crips its just what it was.

thats some real shit.

thats all my quote from another threa on here

[coastie]

Elevation your an idiot. talking to those fools wont make a difference. they were stupid enough to get involved in violence over shit that had nothing to do with them, you think by me talking to them it will make a difference lmao....no. there hardcore wannabes. it is what it is, they brain washed hip hop fanatics.

check this out the only reason im just stating facts on here is because these are gang forums, so why not put the truth out there?

[coastie]

Food....LMAO

"Got LA ties, so that mean yall gonna dick ride LA?? what went down in LA like 40 years ago went down in....LA! not new york, not chicago, not arizona, no seatle, not florida or the millions of other places on earth, it went down in the area of los angeles. this shit started with the OGs and there homies around them, it affected people lives in LOS ANGELES. niggas started becoming crips and bloods out here because that shit was out here and really crackin, niggas homies and family started getting dropped making them join up they hood and start bangin and shit. all that shit went down in LA, it affected poeple in LA.



how do you wake up one day in another city and say to yourself you want to be a crip or a blood when you didnt even live in los angeles and these tragedies didnt effect.

your a clown my nigga, just like every other blood or crip that doesnt live in los angeles, some how your lives are all about crippin and bein a blood now....how the freak does that happen?? that dont make no damn sense.

see it makes sense in los angeles. for ex: "pop squally" is a gang banger in la, and one day his enemies ride on him, then that effects HIS hood, his family, his homies etc etc, his lil bro gon prolly get put on the hood to bang on the suckas that killed his big brother.

^^ thats gang bangin, faggot. its all connected, its some real shit.

not when "pop squally" move out to texas or some shit, hook up with some niggas, they think he cool and they get put on his hood, and now all of a sudden those niggas are CK and BK and PK and GK and all that shit. how you gonna have emotions for something you havent experienced.

shit i aint the most articulate person so i tried to put it as best as possible for you dumb niggas"

[coastie]

Food....LMAO

"Got LA ties, so that mean yall gonna dick ride LA?? what went down in LA like 40 years ago went down in....LA! not new york, not chicago, not arizona, no seatle, not florida or the millions of other places on earth, it went down in the area of los angeles. this shit started with the OGs and there homies around them, it affected people lives in LOS ANGELES. niggas started becoming crips and bloods out here because that shit was out here and really crackin, niggas homies and family started getting dropped making them join up they hood and start bangin and shit. all that shit went down in LA, it affected poeple in LA.



how do you wake up one day in another city and say to yourself you want to be a crip or a blood when you didnt even live in los angeles and these tragedies didnt effect.

your a clown my nigga, just like every other blood or crip that doesnt live in los angeles, some how your lives are all about crippin and bein a blood now....how the freak does that happen?? that dont make no damn sense.

see it makes sense in los angeles. for ex: "pop squally" is a gang banger in la, and one day his enemies ride on him, then that effects HIS hood, his family, his homies etc etc, his lil bro gon prolly get put on the hood to bang on the suckas that killed his big brother.

^^ thats gang bangin, faggot. its all connected, its some real shit.

not when "pop squally" move out to texas or some shit, hook up with some niggas, they think he cool and they get put on his hood, and now all of a sudden those niggas are CK and BK and PK and GK and all that shit. how you gonna have emotions for something you havent experienced.

shit i aint the most articulate person so i tried to put it as best as possible for you dumb niggas"

Im trying to figure out why you seem a lil aggitated by this whole epdemic. Is it because black people are dying or because they took the name of a gang, a swagger, etc? That scenerio happens all over with people that dont call themselves bloods and crips.

I must question what was the point of creating this forum? Could someone answer that for me please?

that makes perfect sense, you prolly cant comprehend. im trying to say who are new york niggas, and other niggas who arent from los angeles to say there bloods and crips, its not something you can become over night, its all connected like the example i gave, thats everyday shit in los angeles, like i said niggas out here are bloods and crips for a reason, and theres history and violence behind it, its the real deal shit.

but when you live miles away from los angeles and that beef between those los angeles gangs hasnt effected you then how could you just become a blood/crip by JUST meeting a nigga from los angeles, by just hanging out with him and shit and all of a usdden new your a crip over night and for some reason you hate bloods, just because this nigga you JUST met, and dont even really know met you and now all of a sudden you want to bang on some people you never even met. pertending yall got feelings for shit you dont. see i got your hoe cards pulled.

like i said in los angeles the OGs started this back in the 60s and 70s, the crips and bloods cmae out of that over there, in los angeles all that history is over there and only effected people in los angeles, the whole politics of crippin and bloodin, that some LA shit no one else has biz in it and it dont make sense to have it. im trying to understand niggas logics here, like why do yall feel like your bloods and crips? yall dont make sense, you guys are about nothing, started from nothing. trying to act like yall mad about a beef that went/goes down in LOS ANGELES lmao cuhh. yall out fo towners make me laugh

[Elevation]

Elevation your an idiot. talking to those fools wont make a difference. they were stupid enough to get involved in violence over shit that had nothing to do with them, you think by me talking to them it will make a difference lmao....no. there hardcore wannabes. it is what it is, they brain washed hip hop fanatics.

check this out the only reason im just stating facts on here is because these are gang forums, so why not put the truth out there?

Sounds like you're just making excuses. You make all these long ass emotional paragraphs full of heartfelt hatred towards NYC Bloods and Crips, yet you live in NYC and wont dare open your mouth to one of them. There's no other excuse for that other than you being a pussy. Sorry. Nothing you're saying on here every day is going to change anything. Posting paragraphs of hate on an internet forum every single day of your life has no effect in the streets, where the shit you hate is taking place. You think you're doing some type of community service for L.A. Bloods and Crips by typing tough for them on the internet, but you're doing absolutely nothing for them but dick riding them. While you're on this website everyday posting your daily useless shit, there are L.A. Bloods and Crips showing love to NY Bloods and Crips. Just because you saw a couple of youtube videos of L.A. Bloods trying to talk slick about NY Bloods doesn't mean everybody in L.A. is a bunch of hatin' ass niggaz like you lames. You say NY Bloods and Crips are stupid for getting involved in violence that had nothing to do with them, yet NYC has almost a non-existant gang related crime stat... and the gangs that are doing the few gang related crimes in NY are NY born gangs such as Trinitarios and DDP. Do your research before you start talking about something or you just make yaself look retarded. You call them hip hop fanatics, yet NY had Bloods and Crips before it was cool in hip hop. If you was to pay attention before you start yapping your dick suckers you would realize that the NY Bloods are the ones who influenced the Hip Hop Bloods phase, not the other way around. Crips have been in New York since the 80's and Bloods started in NY in 1993... it just became cool to be a Blood for Hip Hop fans back in 2006. Then you say "why not put the truth out there?"... how is posting daily BS on a internet forum qualified as putting the truth out there? This aint the hood, its the internet. If you really wanted to put any truth out there, you would step your ass outside and start tellin niggaz. But before you can do that, you have to know the truth... which you dont. Exactly what do you even know about how Bloods and Crips got to NY anyway? You dont know. You have no idea who migrated the first Crip set to NY in the 80's and all you probably know about the UBN is that fake online boo of knowledge on the internet that they never even used. Bet you didnt even know that NY had Crips before Bloods. So how can you even consider yourself putting any type of truth out there when yo ass is clueless? Lets stop and be real for a minute, you aint doin shit but hopping on the internets "hate on ny" fad. There is no excuse for living in NY surrounded by niggaz you obviously have a great feeling of dislike for and not saying shit to them to their faces and just using an internet forum as your little diary to secretly talk shit about them behind their backs.

While ya punk ass is online being L.A.'s little unofficial cheerleader take a look at whats happening without you...

Nine Trey Gangster chillin in L.A. for a video shoot:

And don't say they did it for the money, 'cuase if it was for the money it wouldn't have been some unknown nine trey nigga, it woulda been Dipset or Lil Wayne.

L.A. 60 Nipsey Hussle chillin in a NY 60 Hood throwin it up with them

And that aint even it, but that just goes to show you that you're pretty much worthless and your hate has as much weight in the Hood as ya dead grandma's.

NY ain't even the only city that has Bloods and Crips outside of L.A., and it wasn't the first and it damn sure won't be the last. So why is it only NY that you're so focused on? Niggaz like you is the reason why sites like this fell off. Hardly any real convos no more, just a bunch of repetitive shit posted about NY by little corny ass niggaz like you. I get tired of trying to read through this site and all you see is a bunch of cornyness about one damn city.

[coastie]

^^ this guys a real homo. he think he figured me out. im FROM los angeles. my family is crippin and bloodin every single day of their lives, while you gay ass out of townerrs watch movies on them and get all infatuated with our life style, and our gangsta lean and all that then go out pertending to be us. nigga you need to calm the fuck down. you the one catching feelings im simply giving example lmao.

it sounds like you caught a hard one up your ass by what i typed up because it doesnt seem to me like.

lol theres OTHER niggas in NYC to other then the lil niggas who got a crush on ice cube and snoop dogg. im just a real nigga. and i see my self kicking it with str8 up real nigga.

i grew up with east coast crip my whole life you could practically say i am a east coast crip 62nd st but i never got courted on, i put in work for them, when the florencia came through smashin at the playground nigga i was always there, when it was time to go hit up there hood i was there with the six pac crips. i know this crippin and blood lifestyle all too well. my family has been crips since before there was a crip gang or before there was bloods running around totin red flags, homie i know more about this then you could put together.

i do love however that you showed youtube videos of RAPPERS. niggas on a get money tip, theyre thinking is already shaped. its all about getting money, fuck their hood and what they leave behind. matter of fact nipsey hustle was trying to suck new yorks dick like a mofo in one of them videos on his profile on that radio station talkin about LA got nuttin, new york got alll this and that, trying to downplay LA so he could prolly get on one of them NYC niggas masterbation list. a lot of niggas dont think. but when you have niggas who are actually thinkers like me and can see shit yall use rappers to back yourselves up.

lol and now i ma aware of some shit called black sopranos which i know you are prolyl goig to try to excitingly use next because i already labeled your sources are "rappers" which they are lmao. they not real niggas. they dont ride, they wanna make money. ask nipsey how many times he actually picked up a pistol for his hood and look him in the eyes man to man. hes a pussy he was nervous as hell on a RADIO SHOW.

oh and you are right about a nigga catching feelings by seeing your lil fake ass niggas from your city pertending to be something that my cuzzins and shit really died over. literally some real crip and blood bizness.

but now you actually got the nerve to sit down and type up your bs talking about niggas in your city got rights to be bloods and crips to. when thats all some flase shit.

you still havent told me how bloodin and crippin makes sense in new york or the other states.

oh by the way boyz n the hood and colors been out since the 80s my nigga. thats what put a lot of so called "real niggas" from your city onto blood and crip lol.
ROOOOLLLLIN
SUWOOOOP

lmao you niggas aint got shit on me. u know every single thing i typed up is just real as hell.

my only question is why are there bloods and crips in new york? and why do they act like they gotta beef like LA niggas? why is a crip from new york mad at a random blood from new york? like is aid yall didnt grow up in that LA environment for yall to be catching feelings using words like crab and slob. thats LA bizness