Which Gangs in New York City are official?

[Myself]

man there some Fake blood in newyork that call there self Bountyhunters 911/set trippin lot boys and there like cheerleaders for everytime a record come out with the word blood in it ... thats pathetic and then you got ......Fake Nhb 20z calling there self homicide bloods and there no high or barely any death rate of gang bangin in newyork and another ......Fake blood gang called Hatboys ???

are these just lost kids or just out work felons misleading kids into a fanatsy delusional

[allblackmax]

I'm new to the forum and it may have already been said but,

I grew up in NY in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and I visit often even today. NY has always been about drug crews, dudes gettin together to get money; fuck that bangin shit. When I was growin up in NY in the 80s we heard about that west coast bangin' shit but we didn't respect it. The thought of killin somebody over a color was stupid to us. It was all about money in our hood; who had the cars, clothes, houses, and hoes. You did have some original gangs like Deceps in Brooklyn, Lo-lifes, some say 5%ers, but that's about it.

[ahmeng]

yea i know what you talking about

most fucking blood bangers in new york are pussy they roam around in little groups and get smacked around by Asians 95% of the time and some that I know they really hold it down like some niggaz that i met in rikers island i was in rikers for about half a year and my nigga ace and crudz from g shine they got their shit going on i dont know if their blood shit is real or not lol

[cools78]

another thing why do eastcaost niggas play with rank and OG status ....they give that shit out , and give they self OG status like its candy a piece of gum ..." oh im a 3 start general ...... what the fu-- clownish shit is that ? niggas 22 years old calling there self OG this an that ..........LOL

niggas dont understand rank over here , and level of respect and how you earn your stripes as a reputable nigga at least this new generation dont , original newyork niggas do

after 95 is when this " new " Newyork started , after the true gangsters died and the rest got swept up by the feds/government after the crack years. i find more original newyorkers down south now.

HEY MAN ... I FEEL EVERYTHING YOU GUYS ARE SAYING . I AM A CRIP FROM NYC . MY SET REALLY HAS TIES TO CALI ... ALOT DONT . WHEN IT FIRST STARTED OUT HERE IT WASNT SO SATURATED WITH SETS THERE WAS ONLY LIKE 7 REAL CRIP HOODS THAT ALL HAD TIES TO LA THEN IT GOT OUTTA CONTROL ...

[Myself]

HEY SHIT MIGRATES THATS WHAT HAPPENS IN HISTORY EVERYWHERE , BUT THE REAL HAVE TO BE SEPERATED FROM THE FAKES ....JUST LIKE OTHER STATES DONT LIKE NEWYORK OR NEW JERSEY NIGGAS HUSTLING IN THERE STATES

BACK IN THE DAYS : D.C. AND PHILLY AND BALTIMORE AND DOWN SOUTH NIGGAZ .......HATED NEWYORK NIGGAZ COMING TO THERE STATE SETTING UP SHOP AND HUSTLING SELLING DRUGS , BEING FLASHY AND FLOSSING THERE NEW CUSTOM CARS AND JEWELRY...

NOW ITS L.A. AND N.Y. AND EASTCOAST NIGGAZ MERGING GANGS ...SHIT HAPPENS

BUT... FAKES AND SNITCHES AND FAD COPYCATS GOTS TO GO , THEY ARE CLOWNS , NET BANGERS AND POSERS NEED TO BE EXPOSED

[BBA]

NINE TR3Y BBA ALL DAY BILLY B THE WAY WERE MY EMU G'S AT? OR IS THIS SITE FULL OF UBN HATERS YALL IS FUNNY YALL KEEP ME ENTERTAINED WE OUT HER THE TR3Y I5 REAL 5TRONG EAST KOAST N DOWN SOUTH IS 93 TAKEOVA IF IT AINT BILLY ITS SILLY EASTSIDE 2 MY UBN GS

[Myself]

NINE TR3Y BBA ALL DAY BILLY B THE WAY WERE MY EMU G'S AT? OR IS THIS SITE FULL OF UBN HATERS YALL IS FUNNY YALL KEEP ME ENTERTAINED WE OUT HER THE TR3Y I5 REAL 5TRONG EAST KOAST N DOWN SOUTH IS 93 TAKEOVA IF IT AINT BILLY ITS SILLY EASTSIDE 2 MY UBN GS

DECEPTICONS IS OFFICIAL ....DRUG GANGS ARE OFFICIAL ........THATS IT , .....93FAKES IS THE GANG OF SHAME STARTED BY FAKES AND WILL FO EVER LABELED FAKES

[BBA]

NINE TR3Y BBA ALL DAY BILLY B THE WAY WERE MY EMU G'S AT? OR IS THIS SITE FULL OF UBN HATERS YALL IS FUNNY YALL KEEP ME ENTERTAINED WE OUT HER THE TR3Y I5 REAL 5TRONG EAST KOAST N DOWN SOUTH IS 93 TAKEOVA IF IT AINT BILLY ITS SILLY EASTSIDE 2 MY UBN GS

DECEPTICONS IS OFFICIAL ....DRUG GANGS ARE OFFICIAL ........THATS IT , .....93FAKES IS THE GANG OF SHAME STARTED BY FAKES AND WILL FO EVER LABELED FAKES

NINE TR3Y IS REALER THEN YOU WILL EVER BE YOU PROLLY A OLD HEAD THAT SPEND WAY 2 MUCH TIME ON HERE SUKKN EASTKOAST DIKK, YOUR NOT OFFICIAL 93 UBN G'Z UP THE KOOKOUT WAS LOVELY 16 YEARS STRONG AND STILL GOING HAPPY BELATED B DAY 2 MY BILLYS

EASTSIDE YOU KANT SPELL wESt without the ES ( E to the S TR3Y B THE BEST)

[Klaxon]

Decepticons? Was that name taken from the Transformers cartoon/movie? Not trying to hate or anything, but thats the only place I've ever heard that name.

[Myself]

NINE TR3Y IS REALER THEN YOU WILL EVER BE YOU PROLLY A OLD HEAD THAT SPEND WAY 2 MUCH TIME ON HERE SUKKN EASTKOAST DIKK, YOUR NOT OFFICIAL 93 UBN G'Z UP THE KOOKOUT WAS LOVELY 16 YEARS STRONG AND STILL GOING HAPPY BELATED B DAY 2 MY BILLYS

EASTSIDE YOU KANT SPELL wESt without the ES ( E to the S TR3Y B THE BEST)


FROM THE WORDS OF A PROUDE FAKE OFFBRAND DICK HEAD ....WOW , CATS IS PROUD TO BE FAKE THIS IS A NEW ERA AND GENERATION 16YRS OF STUPIDITY

[lordwhizv]

HOW the HELL DO I GET TO SHELL BEACH AND WHY IZ IT ALWAYS NIGHT TIME HERE- I CANT REMEMBER SHYT!!!!!!!!!!!

[Myself]

FROM WHAT IM TOLD AND BEEN PROVEN......IS THERE ARE A FEW REAL CALIFORNIA TIED SETS IN NEWYORK CITY AND NEW JERSEY OTHER STATEZ :

BLOODS
__________

DOUBLE II - INGLEWOOD FAMILY N.j. Only
NHB 20s
BOUNTY HUNTERZ
128 INFAMOUS - PUEBLO BISHOPS
FAMILY SWANZ
62 BRIMZ - N.J.
FRUIT TOWNZ BRIMZ - N.J.
PAS DENVER LANEZ - N.j and Bmore Only
FRUIT TOWN PIRUZ

CRIPS :
________

GRAPE ST N.J.
UNDERGROUND CRIPS
NHC

ALL THESE SETS ARE SUPPOSE TO BE TIED TO CALIFORNIA AND OFFICIAL

FROM WHAT IS SAID " .........ALL OTHER SETS NOT MENTIONED ARE CONSIDERED FAKE !! ......OR SUSPECT CLAIMERS FALSE FLAGGERS !!!........ FROM THE OLD NEWYORK FAKE UBN GANGS !!! ......OR INTERNET MYSPACE GANGS !!!!....... OR HIPHOP MUSIC CLAIMERS ASKING TO DO SONGS WITH REAL BANGERS !!......MOSTLY HIGHSCHOOL KIDS JOING THE HIPHOP GANG FAD !!!!! FROM THE EASTCOAST AND DIRTY SOUTH !!!

LIKE OR LEAVE IT.....

[aceduce]

FROM WHAT IM TOLD AND BEEN PROVEN......IS THERE ARE A FEW REAL CALIFORNIA TIED SETS IN NEWYORK CITY AND NEW JERSEY OTHER STATEZ :

BLOODS
__________

DOUBLE II - INGLEWOOD FAMILY N.j. Only
NHB 20s
BOUNTY HUNTERZ
128 INFAMOUS - PUEBLO BISHOPS
FAMILY SWANZ
62 BRIMZ - N.J.
FRUIT TOWNZ BRIMZ - N.J.
PAS DENVER LANEZ - N.j and Bmore Only
FRUIT TOWN PIRUZ

CRIPS :
________

GRAPE ST N.J.
UNDERGROUND CRIPS
NHC

ALL THESE SETS ARE SUPPOSE TO BE TIED TO CALIFORNIA AND OFFICIAL

FROM WHAT IS SAID " .........ALL OTHER SETS NOT MENTIONED ARE CONSIDERED FAKE !! ......OR SUSPECT CLAIMERS FALSE FLAGGERS !!!........ FROM THE OLD NEWYORK FAKE UBN GANGS !!! ......OR INTERNET MYSPACE GANGS !!!!....... OR HIPHOP MUSIC CLAIMERS ASKING TO DO SONGS WITH REAL BANGERS !!......MOSTLY HIGHSCHOOL KIDS JOING THE HIPHOP GANG FAD !!!!! FROM THE EASTCOAST AND DIRTY SOUTH !!!

LIKE OR LEAVE IT.....

but even these sets u named are fake becaue no one from cali knows these guys and these guys be the only ones giving shout outs to cali and shit while cali dont even know they exist, not to mention the fact that these out of towners have no business claiming those gangs u named anyways since they didnt grow up in those neighborhoods in cali, thats like joining a gang for no reason, its some bitch ass shit. its like in los ngeles your from neighborhood 20 blood because you live in that neighborhood and grew up with the poeple from that hood and shit, so thats ur culture, what u about and shit, but tell me how/why someone from new york would want to be from neighborhood blood rollin 20s? just because some fool moved from los angeles around them and now they whole life is about being a blood ovber night? thats some clown shit if you ask me.

thats why i say bloods and crips dont have no bidness being anywhere else except LA, everywhere else its some clown shit and wannabee shit, just niggas from the hoods in new york are fascinated with la gangs because of rap music, hip hop made it the "in thing"

[Myself]

FROM WHAT IM TOLD AND BEEN PROVEN......IS THERE ARE A FEW REAL CALIFORNIA TIED SETS IN NEWYORK CITY AND NEW JERSEY OTHER STATEZ :

BLOODS
__________

DOUBLE II - INGLEWOOD FAMILY N.j. Only
NHB 20s
BOUNTY HUNTERZ
128 INFAMOUS - PUEBLO BISHOPS
FAMILY SWANZ
62 BRIMZ - N.J.
FRUIT TOWNZ BRIMZ - N.J.
PAS DENVER LANEZ - N.j and Bmore Only
FRUIT TOWN PIRUZ

CRIPS :
________

GRAPE ST N.J.
UNDERGROUND CRIPS
NHC

ALL THESE SETS ARE SUPPOSE TO BE TIED TO CALIFORNIA AND OFFICIAL

FROM WHAT IS SAID " .........ALL OTHER SETS NOT MENTIONED ARE CONSIDERED FAKE !! ......OR SUSPECT CLAIMERS FALSE FLAGGERS !!!........ FROM THE OLD NEWYORK FAKE UBN GANGS !!! ......OR INTERNET MYSPACE GANGS !!!!....... OR HIPHOP MUSIC CLAIMERS ASKING TO DO SONGS WITH REAL BANGERS !!......MOSTLY HIGHSCHOOL KIDS JOING THE HIPHOP GANG FAD !!!!! FROM THE EASTCOAST AND DIRTY SOUTH !!!

LIKE OR LEAVE IT.....

but even these sets u named are fake becaue no one from cali knows these guys and these guys be the only ones giving shout outs to cali and shit while cali dont even know they exist, not to mention the fact that these out of towners have no business claiming those gangs u named anyways since they didnt grow up in those neighborhoods in cali, thats like joining a gang for no reason, its some bitch ass shit. its like in los ngeles your from neighborhood 20 blood because you live in that neighborhood and grew up with the poeple from that hood and shit, so thats ur culture, what u about and shit, but tell me how/why someone from new york would want to be from neighborhood blood rollin 20s? just because some fool moved from los angeles around them and now they whole life is about being a blood ovber night? thats some clown shit if you ask me.

thats why i say bloods and crips dont have no bidness being anywhere else except LA, everywhere else its some clown shit and wannabee shit, just niggas from the hoods in new york are fascinated with la gangs because of rap music, hip hop made it the "in thing"

I WAS FEELING THE SAME WAY ....AND I STILL DO , BUT I DID MEET SOME CALI DUDES IN NEWYORK HANGIN IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS........AND THEY HAVE THE ( N.Y. AND N.J. ) DUDES FLYING BACK OUT IN LOS ANGELES HANGING IN THERE NEIGHBORHOODS !! ....

YOU WILL FIND SOME NEWYORK AND NEWJERSEY DUDES IN LOS ANGELES !! ...

THE BLOODS I MET HAD FAMILY IN NEWYORK AND THATS WHY THEY WERE THERE , SO I SEE WHY THAT CONNECTION STARTED .......BUT !!!!!!!! THAT WAS JUST 2 DUDES FROM SOUTHCENTRAL...THE REST IS WHATEVER CANT SPEAK ON

MOST ARE FAKE ON THE EASTCOAST AND SOUTH STATES

SO THERE IS AN EXCEPTION TO EVERY RULE ........BUT THE MAJORITY IS REALLY FAKING IT ALOT OF THEM ARE ....THEY JUST WAKE UP AND CLAIM WITH OUT EVER KNOWING A DUDE FROM LOS ANGELES !! -
FAKE FAKE , BRIMS , FAKE FAKE PIRUS , FAKE FAKE BLOOD STONE VILLIANS , FAKE FAKE ,MILLERS , FAKE FAKE DENVER LANES.....FAKE CRIPS TOO

[Cane]

I moved to tennessee from L.A. 7 years ago. This down south bangin is retarded. When these cats meet somebody from Cali they ask all these questions about gangs.they even tried to ask me for connections to real bangers. Its sad

[Myself]

I moved to tennessee from L.A. 7 years ago. This down south bangin is retarded. When these cats meet somebody from Cali they ask all these questions about gangs.they even tried to ask me for connections to real bangers. Its sad

YEAH THATS MOSTLY EVERYWHERE THEY HAVE FAKE CLAIMING CALI GANGS .....CHICAGO GOES THRU THE SAME SHIT ,

REAL NIGGAz WHO ARE CONNECTED TO L.A. GANGS BE OUT THERE IN L.A.

[sickntwisted]

by cools78 on Wed May 06, 2009 12:30 pm

NYpueblobishop wrote:
another thing why do eastcaost niggas play with rank and OG status ....they give that shit out , and give they self OG status like its candy a piece of gum ..." oh im a 3 start general ...... what the fu-- clownish shit is that ? niggas 22 years old calling there self OG this an that ..........LOL

niggas dont understand rank over here , and level of respect and how you earn your stripes as a reputable nigga at least this new generation dont , original newyork niggas do

after 95 is when this " new " Newyork started , after the true gangsters died and the rest got swept up by the feds/government after the crack years. i find more original newyorkers down south now.


HEY MAN ... I FEEL EVERYTHING YOU GUYS ARE SAYING . I AM A CRIP FROM NYC . MY SET REALLY HAS TIES TO CALI ... ALOT DONT . WHEN IT FIRST STARTED OUT HERE IT WASNT SO SATURATED WITH SETS THERE WAS ONLY LIKE 7 REAL CRIP HOODS THAT ALL HAD TIES TO LA THEN IT GOT OUTTA CONTROL ...

you can have ties that dont make you "official"your still fake ridin dick my nig and with a name like ny pueblo you should be ashamed to even talk here you fake pueblo nigga and 93 trey is rubbish to say it nice the older nigga that retirin "" o.gs"give yall respect because they are tired off bangin but the y.g and b.g believe me dont respect yall and a lot of o.g dont either and you brownchucks you from barlem right why you on here talkin about BS you from if you from l.a. and a banger you would laugh at post like this i know you aint from a real l.a set

[sickntwisted]

not to mention the fact that these out of towners have no business claiming those gangs u named anyways since they didnt grow up in those neighborhoods in cali, thats like joining a gang for no reason, its some bitch ass shit. its like in los ngeles your from neighborhood 20 blood because you live in that neighborhood and grew up with the poeple from that hood and shit, so thats ur culture, what u about and shit, but tell me how/why someone from new york would want to be from neighborhood blood rollin 20s? just because some fool moved from los angeles around them and now they whole life is about being a blood ovber night? thats some clown shit if you ask me.


that right no exeption even if they hang with niggaz in la flying back to nj of ny i got fam that yused to come to the hood allways they was from new orleans and that dont make them nhf stupid niggaz yall really the reason why every other race hates us and laughs at us and even out of usa niggaz hat usa niggaz at fisrt i didn't understand why nigga hate us in other country but now i do its these stupid niggaz uin the linelight real niggaz are allways backstage so the lime light niggaz is what the world see allways extra shit out with their gimmicks imbarrasing

[Villain52Joker]

Rollin 50s bloodstone villains, nhb Rollin 20s, sex money murder 252. Datz all I no in southside that ain't on tht 5 shitt

[youngspade]

IF's are in NJ.

[Myself]

LIKE I SAID BEFORE , FROM WHAT IM TOLD AND BEEN PROVEN......THERE ARE A FEW REAL CALIFORNIA TIED SETS IN NEWYORK CITY AND NEW JERSEY AND BMORE , PHILLY , OTHER STATEZ ACROSS THE NATION :

BLOODS ON EASTCOAST
__________

DOUBLE II - INGLEWOOD FAMILY - N.j. Only
NHB 20s - N.Y.
BOUNTY HUNTERZ
PUEBLO BISHOPS - N.Y.
FAMILY SWANZ - N.Y. - BALTIMORE
62 BRIMZ - N.J.
FRUIT TOWNZ BRIMZ - N.J.
PAS DENVER LANEZ - N.j. and Bmore Only
FRUIT TOWN PIRUZ - N.Y. - N.J.

CRIPS :
________

GRAPE ST. - N.J.
UNDERGROUND CRIPS - N.Y. - N.J.
NHC - NY. - N.J.

ALL THESE SETS ARE SUPPOSE TO BE TIED TO CALIFORNIA AND OFFICIAL

FROM WHAT IS SAID " .........ALL OTHER SETS NOT MENTIONED ARE CONSIDERED FAKE !! ......OR SUSPECT CLAIMERS FALSE FLAGGERS !!!........ FROM THE OLD NEWYORK FAKE UBN GANGS !!! ......OR INTERNET MYSPACE GANGS !!!!....... OR HIPHOP MUSIC CLAIMERS ASKING TO DO SONGS WITH REAL BANGERS !!......MOSTLY HIGHSCHOOL KIDS JOING THE HIPHOP GANG FAD !!!!! FROM THE EASTCOAST AND DIRTY SOUTH !!!

LIKE OR LEAVE IT.....

[sickntwisted]

everybody got ties man its2010 and take the fsb off aint nobody respect them here they fugaga

[Myself]

EVERYBODY LIES AND SAY THEY GOT TIES !!!! FAKES AND WANNABEES .BUT CAN NOT PROVE ...OR THE HOOD THEY CLAIMIN DONT EVEN KNOW THEM

ITS EITHER YOUR A BANGER AND KILLER OR NOT !!! ...

NONE OF THESE CLAIMIERS INTERNET BIG MOUTH FAGS ....STAY OUT IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS BANGIN !!

EXECEPT THE LIST I TYPED THEM DUDES HAVE ...OUTTA TOWN MEMBERS THAT BE IN L.A.

[tumtum]

464 PIRU N 135TH PIRU = NJ ON THE LEFT HOOVERS,PLAYBOYS,N HOODS = NJ 2 WAS LEFT OUT

[unz3y]

also...8 tray gangst3rs,nyC was left'd out Cuz my s3t is offiCial

[userelm]

OUTTA TOWN NIKKA DONT REALLY BE KNOWING WHATS GOING ON WITH THIS NEW YORK SHIT!! YALL NIKKA GO ON WHAT THEY SEE DIPSET DOING AND THINK THATS HOW NEW YORK BLOOD NIKKAS ROLL. OG MADD RONALD CERTIFTIED SHIT OUT HERE AS FAR AS THE ROLLIN 20 GO. OG FLIPSIDE GAVE THE OKAY FOR THE 911 LOTS BOYS MOVEMENT AND THAT SHIT IS RUN BY A WESTCOAST NIKKA LIVING ON THE EAST NOW. YOU WILL GET YOUR HEAD BLOWED OFF OUT HERE JUST AS FAST AS ANYWHERE ESLE FOR BEING OUTTA BOUNDS! NIKKAS KOME TO NEW YORK AND BE IN TIMES SQUARE DONT NOTHING KRACK DOWN THERE BOME THRU THE HOODS TAKE A RIDE THRU SOUNDVIEW PROJECTS AND ASK THEM IF THEY OFFICIAL. I INVITE NIKKAS TO THE HOOD AND LETS SEE IF NIKKAS STILL TALK SHIT ABOUT NIKKAS BEING OFFICIAL OR NOT!

[perongregory]

Shut up nigga anyone can pulla trigger bitch nigga, real nigga, fake, fraud, or phony don't make yall official.

[youngspade]

Shut up nigga anyone can pulla trigger bitch nigga, real nigga, fake, fraud, or phony don't make yall official.

ROGER THAT

[Myself]

EVERYBODY FROM AMERICA TO EUROPE IS CLAIMING A L.A. OR CHICAGO GANGS ......YOU FAGS ARE FAKE !! ....IF YOUR NOT FROM THOSE 2 STATES

[Haru66]

LML ISN'T 8TREY A OFFICIAL SET TOO? (NEW TO THIS GANG STUFF)

[Nxrselxk]

Hoover Criminals 107 selo crimelords we in NY and NJ from the fresno line in Cali spread out

[mobhistorybuff]

I agree on many of the things said from living in new york all my life and knowing different gangs from the 70's ,,80's to present day kids who are bloods or crips and in alot of caes they claim to be ,what they do is get 25 of there friends together and at least one says he has a cousin or friend in california for example and tells his boys he got permission to start up a chapter lets say in the marboro projects and thats what they do and start recruiting even younger kids from there area and build it up to big gang that may have members in other projects from friends they meet at shool and so on , but they were never officially put down by a real chapter in cali or some other part of the usa , the same goes for some bikers but the bikers know who is who more often and are older guys from guys in there 30 's 40's and 50's there nuch more respectable and less likely to start trouble for no reason in the streets they have nothing to prove because there secure in them self's and much more mature most guys have family's and kids to support and been around for 25 , 35 years easy as bike club memebers in new york , one of the most well know biker club's from the early 1920's have come back into sight over the last two years here in new york based in red hook brooklyn 'THE FILHTY MAD DOG'S ' FMD'S years ago they were also known as THE FLOOR MASTER DANCERS when oller shting gangs were big for a brief time , there just about all old school bikers who are cool people and don't mess with you as long as you don't mess with them , there the king of bike club or gang some call them that are friendly to there neigbors no matter what color you are as long as your cool and show the same respect you would want , thats confidence , something like the nyc maia they have confidence and dont bother people that have nothing to do with them , on the other hand your stret gangs like the crips , bloods , latin kings , ms 13 are more younger guys who have to do something bad to get into the gang like beating up an old lady , that crap is wack , the gangs are also lore pregudice against anyone who is not black if your a blood or crip and in the latin kings if your not latin but the funny thing there is look up the word latin in the dictionary and you will find it says 'people who originate from rome well rome is in italy and that means the first latins were italians but try explaning that to a latin king meeting , ,back to biker gangs and gangs from new york the real gangs from new york were the real deal not like today you had ,the savage nomad's ,, the savage skulls ,, FMD'S , and so on all notorious gangs and biker gangs nothing like today , ad i have been in jail as well and have seen the jail house chapters of the new blood it is all based on racial outcsting nothing more and the jails should really be more organized guys come out of jail hooked on dope and went in sober , they went in not prejduce and come out the worst kind of racists there are all because the jails have no control of there prisoners and the guards half the time arein on it and affiliated with bloods or latin kings in the frst place how do you thing so much herion gets in the jails in new york , dope and pot are the big things in jail here in new yourk so how the hell do they expect to reform guys when they are making them far more worse , but polaticians sweep this undr the rug and other people refuse to believe thats wherer there tax dollars are going ignorant yuppies . im done . peace.......