New York is not America's Safest City

[Common Sense]

But we have seen a trend for the past 100 years. In the early-1900s the South Bronx was a shithole, but in the 20s, 30s and 40s hey gentrified it. Then in the 50s, 60s, 70s it became a shithole again. Then it gentrified again (present day).

I heard Harlem is becoming the spot to live in Manhattan. Starbucks Coffee and other trendy shops moving into the neighborhood. Youny white professionals slowly creeping back into the neighborhood, looking for better rent deals than in the city. Not sure about the accuracy, this is second hand information.

As far as L.A. starting to become one of the nations safest cities, I can see that. You don't see the same B.S. around the city like in the 80's and early 90's. Fools posted up on the corner strolling in packs, hanging out in parks, is almost a thing of the past. Which is a good thing.

[A Ghost]

Its funny how you keep talking about how you have extensive college experience, and extensive law enforcement experience but yet you fail to mention that the FBI are the ones who make the Uniform Crime Reports.

The same reports that are used in the national statistics to list how dangerous American cities are.

And every year New York City keeps popping up as the safest one.

Are you calling your FBI friends all liars?


And if so, then that must mean the NYPD is covering up the crime statistics.

Aren't you an NYPD officer?

Are you covering up statistics? If you are that's illegal, you could go to jail.

And if you aren't doing it, then are your co workers covering up the statistics? It sounds like internal affairs needs to pay your department a visit.....

[A Ghost]

But we have seen a trend for the past 100 years. In the early-1900s the South Bronx was a shithole, but in the 20s, 30s and 40s hey gentrified it. Then in the 50s, 60s, 70s it became a shithole again. Then it gentrified again (present day).

I heard Harlem is becoming the spot to live in Manhattan. Starbucks Coffee and other trendy shops moving into the neighborhood. Youny white professionals slowly creeping back into the neighborhood, looking for better rent deals than in the city. Not sure about the accuracy, this is second hand information.

As far as L.A. starting to become one of the nations safest cities, I can see that. You don't see the same B.S. around the city like in the 80's and early 90's. Fools posted up on the corner strolling in packs, hanging out in parks, is almost a thing of the past. Which is a good thing.

You forgot to mention Bill Clinton moved in.....

[rocstar]

You claim to be a cop but you dont know around how many murders they having this year? Looks like you found about 900 extra murders that only you know about.


New York murders 'at 40-year low'

Reliable figures on New York murder rates only date back to the 1960s
New York City is on track to have fewer than 500 murders in 2007, the lowest annual rate in four decades, according to police department figures.
There had been 428 killings this year as of 18 November, compared to 511 at the same point last year.

Murders peaked in 1990, when 2,262 killings were recorded, making New York the murder capital of the US.

According to the New York Times, of the 212 murders in 2007 analysed so far, only 35 were committed by a stranger.

Most of the killings involved disputes between family members, criminals or rival drug gangs.

NEW YORK MURDER RATES
2006 - 596
2001 - 649
1998 - 629
1995 - 1,181
1990 - 2,262Source: NYC Police Department

A majority of both assailants and victims had previously been arrested, the New York Times reported, and more than half were black.

Of the 412 people attacked this year, more than two-thirds were shot, the paper reports. The other 16 murder victims recorded this year died of injuries received in previous years.

Violent crime rates in the city of more than 8 million people dropped in the first half of the year by 5%, according to official figures.

The murder rate for this year is the lowest seen since the current system of record-keeping began in 1963.

Differences in the way crimes were recorded makes it impossible to compare the data with records dating from before then.

The soaring murder rate of the late 1980s and early 1990s was largely a result of turf wars between gangs running the crack cocaine trade.

The turnaround in violence from the early 1990s was attributed to the city's zero tolerance policy, which saw police crack down on minor offences and drug dealing.

[A Ghost]

You claim to be a cop but you dont know around how many murders they having this year? Looks like you found about 900 extra murders that only you know about.


New York murders 'at 40-year low'

Reliable figures on New York murder rates only date back to the 1960s
New York City is on track to have fewer than 500 murders in 2007, the lowest annual rate in four decades, according to police department figures.
There had been 428 killings this year as of 18 November, compared to 511 at the same point last year.

Murders peaked in 1990, when 2,262 killings were recorded, making New York the murder capital of the US.

According to the New York Times, of the 212 murders in 2007 analysed so far, only 35 were committed by a stranger.

Most of the killings involved disputes between family members, criminals or rival drug gangs.

NEW YORK MURDER RATES
2006 - 596
2001 - 649
1998 - 629
1995 - 1,181
1990 - 2,262Source: NYC Police Department

A majority of both assailants and victims had previously been arrested, the New York Times reported, and more than half were black.

Of the 412 people attacked this year, more than two-thirds were shot, the paper reports. The other 16 murder victims recorded this year died of injuries received in previous years.

Violent crime rates in the city of more than 8 million people dropped in the first half of the year by 5%, according to official figures.

The murder rate for this year is the lowest seen since the current system of record-keeping began in 1963.

Differences in the way crimes were recorded makes it impossible to compare the data with records dating from before then.

The soaring murder rate of the late 1980s and early 1990s was largely a result of turf wars between gangs running the crack cocaine trade.

The turnaround in violence from the early 1990s was attributed to the city's zero tolerance policy, which saw police crack down on minor offences and drug dealing.

His own police agency is proving him wrong....

OUCH!!

[UrbanStreets]

Its funny how you keep talking about how you have extensive college experience, and extensive law enforcement experience but yet you fail to mention that the FBI are the ones who make the Uniform Crime Reports.

Um, about that...

The same reports that are used in the national statistics to list how dangerous American cities are.

And every year New York City keeps popping up as the safest one.

Again, New York is not the safest city, it is the so-called safest BIG CITY, but is experiencing a slight rise in crime, while LA is experiencing a major decrease.

Are you calling your FBI friends all liars?

No, I'm calling some police departments corrupt.

And if so, then that must mean the NYPD is covering up the crime statistics.

Yes, sort of.

Aren't you an NYPD officer?

Not anymore. Have been off the job for slightly over a year.

Are you covering up statistics? If you are that's illegal, you could go to jail.

No, I am not.

And if you aren't doing it, then are your co workers covering up the statistics? It sounds like internal affairs needs to pay your department a visit.....

Maybe they do.

[UrbanStreets]

You claim to be a cop but you dont know around how many murders they having this year? Looks like you found about 900 extra murders that only you know about.


New York murders 'at 40-year low'

Reliable figures on New York murder rates only date back to the 1960s
New York City is on track to have fewer than 500 murders in 2007, the lowest annual rate in four decades, according to police department figures.
There had been 428 killings this year as of 18 November, compared to 511 at the same point last year.

Murders peaked in 1990, when 2,262 killings were recorded, making New York the murder capital of the US.

According to the New York Times, of the 212 murders in 2007 analysed so far, only 35 were committed by a stranger.

Most of the killings involved disputes between family members, criminals or rival drug gangs.

NEW YORK MURDER RATES
2006 - 596
2001 - 649
1998 - 629
1995 - 1,181
1990 - 2,262Source: NYC Police Department

A majority of both assailants and victims had previously been arrested, the New York Times reported, and more than half were black.

Of the 412 people attacked this year, more than two-thirds were shot, the paper reports. The other 16 murder victims recorded this year died of injuries received in previous years.

Violent crime rates in the city of more than 8 million people dropped in the first half of the year by 5%, according to official figures.

The murder rate for this year is the lowest seen since the current system of record-keeping began in 1963.

Differences in the way crimes were recorded makes it impossible to compare the data with records dating from before then.

The soaring murder rate of the late 1980s and early 1990s was largely a result of turf wars between gangs running the crack cocaine trade.

The turnaround in violence from the early 1990s was attributed to the city's zero tolerance policy, which saw police crack down on minor offences and drug dealing.

His own police agency is proving him wrong....

OUCH!!

Again, an estimated of 80% of crimes in New York go unreported. And I can also bring up corruption here, and being a former NYPD police officer, I think I have a strong claim here.

[UrbanStreets]

But we have seen a trend for the past 100 years. In the early-1900s the South Bronx was a shithole, but in the 20s, 30s and 40s hey gentrified it. Then in the 50s, 60s, 70s it became a shithole again. Then it gentrified again (present day).

I heard Harlem is becoming the spot to live in Manhattan. Starbucks Coffee and other trendy shops moving into the neighborhood. Youny white professionals slowly creeping back into the neighborhood, looking for better rent deals than in the city. Not sure about the accuracy, this is second hand information.

As far as L.A. starting to become one of the nations safest cities, I can see that. You don't see the same B.S. around the city like in the 80's and early 90's. Fools posted up on the corner strolling in packs, hanging out in parks, is almost a thing of the past. Which is a good thing.

What you mentiond about Harlem is western Harlem and Morningside Heights. East Harlem and Spanish Harlem are geting no better, and for the new business going up there... They don't last too long.

[A Ghost]

Its funny how you keep talking about how you have extensive college experience, and extensive law enforcement experience but yet you fail to mention that the FBI are the ones who make the Uniform Crime Reports.

Um, about that...

Sop now you're gonna tell me that the FBI does not make the UCR?

The same reports that are used in the national statistics to list how dangerous American cities are.

And every year New York City keeps popping up as the safest one.

Again, New York is not the safest city, it is the so-called safest BIG CITY, but is experiencing a slight rise in crime, while LA is experiencing a major decrease.

New York may be experiencing a slight rise, but only in certain pockets of the city.

Overall crime has gone down drastically. You should be proud officer, you've done an excellent job cleaning up New York.

Are you calling your FBI friends all liars?

No, I'm calling some police departments corrupt.

And you've come to an LA based gang website to expose them?

Why arent you getting off your computer and working with the Feds to crack down on this issue which you feel is being covered up?

Why complain to a bunch of white kids on the internet?

And if you aren't doing it, then are your co workers covering up the statistics? It sounds like internal affairs needs to pay your department a visit.....

Maybe they do.

Maybe? or Yes?

[UrbanStreets]

Sop now you're gonna tell me that the FBI does not make the UCR?

No, it's about my job.

New York may be experiencing a slight rise, but only in certain pockets of the city.

Overall crime has gone down drastically. You should be proud officer, you've done an excellent job cleaning up New York.

Overall crime has gone down, overall gun crime has not. And in certain parts of the city crime has gone UP drastically.

Maybe? or Yes?

Maybe. Releasing crime stats wasn't my job on NYPD, but it just SEEMED like every day I'd be dispacthed to a shots fired and the person would be dead when we got to the scene. Funny, because that would mean I was called to 365 out of the supposedly 500 murders in the city. Whatever, I am no longer an officer there and I do not wish to get involved with that job again. Fun times but also miserable times.

[UrbanStreets]

And I know more NYPD officers who will say the same thing that I just said.

[A Ghost]

And I know more NYPD officers who will say the same thing that I just said.

And I know of NFPD officers that think all blacks are monkies...

And I know of lots of white girls who cut themselves because they think it feels good...


Just because someone agrees with you doesnt make it true.

[Mcminister]

in houston people are actually complainin that the police is covering up murders...word i heard it in the news and the radio and it is actually true...HPD is covering up murders but i didnt really get into it


what dude is sayin bout new york is true in a strange way, like yea new york is safest big city w.e...but brownsville , bushwick, Bed StY(the dangerous side) are very rough places ...i think rougher than places alot of other cities which are considered dangerous places.....harlem is really safe..i stayed there for like 6 days...and it was the fisrt time i went 5 days witout hearin a gun shot.

yea they don have no more dead cops in oakland coz the cops dont come across the brollin 100's unless somebody dead.

[A Ghost]

No, it's about my job.

So you admit that the FBI are the ones who create the UCR reports right?

Maybe. Releasing crime stats wasn't my job on NYPD, but it just SEEMED like every day I'd be dispacthed to a shots fired and the person would be dead when we got to the scene. Funny, because that would mean I was called to 365 out of the supposedly 500 murders in the city. Whatever, I am no longer an officer there and I do not wish to get involved with that job again. Fun times but also miserable times.

And Im sure there are LAPD officers that would respond to a murder call every day. You should have a talk with the LA county coroners officer and see how safe LA is.... lmao

You keep forgetting theres a difference between tenements in single family neighborhoods.

If LA had tenements Im sure their murder rate would be a lot higher than New York City's....

[A Ghost]

in houston people are actually complainin that the police is covering up murders...word i heard it in the news and the radio and it is actually true...HPD is covering up murders but i didnt really get into it


what dude is sayin bout new york is true in a strange way, like yea new york is safest big city w.e...but brownsville , bushwick, Bed StY(the dangerous side) are very rough places ...i think rougher than places alot of other cities which are considered dangerous places.....harlem is really safe..i stayed there for like 6 days...and it was the fisrt time i went 5 days witout hearin a gun shot.

yea they don have no more dead cops in oakland coz the cops dont come across the brollin 100's unless somebody dead.

Kids in Buffalo don't even run inside the house anymore when they hear gunshots on the block.

They are so immune to it they just keep playing hop scotch and drawing on the sidewalk with chalk.....

No different than NYC...

[A Ghost]

And if a medium sized city like Buffalo is like that then imagine what a major city like LA is like.....

[Mcminister]

new york isnt that that rough as a whole..or as new yorkers think they are...but they dangerous parts its dangerous..thin buot it the population is so big....manhattan is soo crime free and its 1mill +....brooklyn got alot of crime but half the place is white and dats another mill + coz brooklyn got 2 million people...and queens 2mill +..and staten island damn.

someone need to brake the crime rate up into boroughs as if the boroughs were cities and lets see teh stats..i dono

[A Ghost]

new york isnt that that rough as a whole..or as new yorkers think they are...but they dangerous parts its dangerous..thin buot it the population is so big....manhattan is soo crime free and its 1mill +....brooklyn got alot of crime but half the place is white and dats another mill + coz brooklyn got 2 million people...and queens 2mill +..and staten island damn.

someone need to brake the crime rate up into boroughs as if the boroughs were cities and lets see teh stats..i dono

I actually agree with you, it would cut out a lot of confusion.

Major American cities should do that across the board.

Instead of rating the entire city, do it by sections. Do it by neighborhoods....

[EmperorPenguin]

in houston people are actually complainin that the police is covering up murders...word i heard it in the news and the radio and it is actually true...HPD is covering up murders but i didnt really get into it


what dude is sayin bout new york is true in a strange way, like yea new york is safest big city w.e...but brownsville , bushwick, Bed StY(the dangerous side) are very rough places ...i think rougher than places alot of other cities which are considered dangerous places.....harlem is really safe..i stayed there for like 6 days...and it was the fisrt time i went 5 days witout hearin a gun shot.

yea they don have no more dead cops in oakland coz the cops dont come across the brollin 100's unless somebody dead.

Kids in Buffalo don't even run inside the house anymore when they hear gunshots on the block.

They are so immune to it they just keep playing hop scotch and drawing on the sidewalk with chalk.....

No different than NYC...

In my city if you hear gun shots no one cares either. That's because most people think someone shot a moose or a wolf or something to that affect.

[A Ghost]

in houston people are actually complainin that the police is covering up murders...word i heard it in the news and the radio and it is actually true...HPD is covering up murders but i didnt really get into it


what dude is sayin bout new york is true in a strange way, like yea new york is safest big city w.e...but brownsville , bushwick, Bed StY(the dangerous side) are very rough places ...i think rougher than places alot of other cities which are considered dangerous places.....harlem is really safe..i stayed there for like 6 days...and it was the fisrt time i went 5 days witout hearin a gun shot.

yea they don have no more dead cops in oakland coz the cops dont come across the brollin 100's unless somebody dead.

Kids in Buffalo don't even run inside the house anymore when they hear gunshots on the block.

They are so immune to it they just keep playing hop scotch and drawing on the sidewalk with chalk.....

No different than NYC...

In my city if you hear gun shots no one cares either. That's because most people think someone shot a moose or a wolf or something to that affect.

There aint no moose or wolves in Buffalo...

[EmperorPenguin]

new york isnt that that rough as a whole..or as new yorkers think they are...but they dangerous parts its dangerous..thin buot it the population is so big....manhattan is soo crime free and its 1mill +....brooklyn got alot of crime but half the place is white and dats another mill + coz brooklyn got 2 million people...and queens 2mill +..and staten island damn.

someone need to brake the crime rate up into boroughs as if the boroughs were cities and lets see teh stats..i dono

I actually agree with you, it would cut out a lot of confusion.

Major American cities should do that across the board.

Instead of rating the entire city, do it by sections. Do it by neighborhoods....

If you do that, you're splitting hairs. The sole purpose is to give the public a general idea. I'd be willing to bet all those stats are on record you just have to find them yourself. Back in Edmonton we had crime stats broken down to each individual neighborhood, we're talking sub-sections of areas no more then 5 city blocks big. So precise that you could find out how many types of Honda Civics from 1994 were stolen in Richfield in 2002 between the months of January and April. It's all there if you want to look it up, it's just of no use to make all those records published in the local news because it's overkill.

[EmperorPenguin]

in houston people are actually complainin that the police is covering up murders...word i heard it in the news and the radio and it is actually true...HPD is covering up murders but i didnt really get into it


what dude is sayin bout new york is true in a strange way, like yea new york is safest big city w.e...but brownsville , bushwick, Bed StY(the dangerous side) are very rough places ...i think rougher than places alot of other cities which are considered dangerous places.....harlem is really safe..i stayed there for like 6 days...and it was the fisrt time i went 5 days witout hearin a gun shot.

yea they don have no more dead cops in oakland coz the cops dont come across the brollin 100's unless somebody dead.

Kids in Buffalo don't even run inside the house anymore when they hear gunshots on the block.

They are so immune to it they just keep playing hop scotch and drawing on the sidewalk with chalk.....

No different than NYC...

In my city if you hear gun shots no one cares either. That's because most people think someone shot a moose or a wolf or something to that affect.

There aint no moose or wolves in Buffalo...

Well not anymore, because they're being shot constantly! Hence the gun shots. DUH!

[A Ghost]

new york isnt that that rough as a whole..or as new yorkers think they are...but they dangerous parts its dangerous..thin buot it the population is so big....manhattan is soo crime free and its 1mill +....brooklyn got alot of crime but half the place is white and dats another mill + coz brooklyn got 2 million people...and queens 2mill +..and staten island damn.

someone need to brake the crime rate up into boroughs as if the boroughs were cities and lets see teh stats..i dono

I actually agree with you, it would cut out a lot of confusion.

Major American cities should do that across the board.

Instead of rating the entire city, do it by sections. Do it by neighborhoods....

If you do that, you're splitting hairs. The sole purpose is to give the public a general idea. I'd be willing to bet all those stats are on record you just have to find them yourself. Back in Edmonton we had crime stats broken down to each individual neighborhood, we're talking sub-sections of areas no more then 5 city blocks big. So precise that you could find out how many types of Honda Civics from 1994 were stolen in Richfield in 2002 between the months of January and April. It's all there if you want to look it up, it's just of no use to make all those records published in the local news because it's overkill.

All they would have to do is publish the top 25 most dangerous neighborhoods instead of the top 25 cities.

Neighborhoods are much more accurate than painting an entire brush over a city....

[A Ghost]

in houston people are actually complainin that the police is covering up murders...word i heard it in the news and the radio and it is actually true...HPD is covering up murders but i didnt really get into it


what dude is sayin bout new york is true in a strange way, like yea new york is safest big city w.e...but brownsville , bushwick, Bed StY(the dangerous side) are very rough places ...i think rougher than places alot of other cities which are considered dangerous places.....harlem is really safe..i stayed there for like 6 days...and it was the fisrt time i went 5 days witout hearin a gun shot.

yea they don have no more dead cops in oakland coz the cops dont come across the brollin 100's unless somebody dead.

Kids in Buffalo don't even run inside the house anymore when they hear gunshots on the block.

They are so immune to it they just keep playing hop scotch and drawing on the sidewalk with chalk.....

No different than NYC...

In my city if you hear gun shots no one cares either. That's because most people think someone shot a moose or a wolf or something to that affect.

There aint no moose or wolves in Buffalo...

Well not anymore, because they're being shot constantly! Hence the gun shots. DUH!

lol

Buffalo isnt exactly the woods man....

[Mcminister]

isnt it suppose to be oposite the more the gun shots heard the more the duck..coz people catch strays u don wana be a victim

wen i hear them on some app. buildin i don duck but...wen im on the fisrt floor i ain gon lie i usualy put my head down shiit i ain finna be no victim.



im pretty sure if they counted it by neighborhoods NY and LA hoods will occupy the top 30

new orleans will have like 5 hoods in the top 10


not neighborhoods coz dats too small...maybe like...south side , westside, northside, eastside or somthin

[A Ghost]

isnt it suppose to be oposite the more the gun shots heard the more the duck..coz people catch strays u don wana be a victim

wen i hear them on some app. buildin i don duck but...wen im on the fisrt floor i ain gon lie i usualy put my head down shiit i ain finna be no victim.



im pretty sure if they counted it by neighborhoods NY and LA hoods will occupy the top 30

new orleans will have like 5 hoods in the top 10


not neighborhoods coz dats too small...maybe like...south side , westside, northside, eastside or somthin

Thats not a bad idea.

Do Gary, Compton and Camden have North/South/East/West sides? Are they big enough?

[A Ghost]

isnt it suppose to be oposite the more the gun shots heard the more the duck..coz people catch strays u don wana be a victim

Well Im talking about little kids. Kids arent too concerned with that they just wanna play.

Older guys yeah I suppose....

[Mcminister]

or jst split teh big cities...

or jst have another list of stats strickly for neighbourhoods....u wont c aloot of them top cities no more...somewhere like filmore in frisco will pop up...frisco ain neva seen u mite think its the safest city in the world till u go to hunters point

[UrbanStreets]

No, it's about my job.

So you admit that the FBI are the ones who create the UCR reports right?

Maybe. Releasing crime stats wasn't my job on NYPD, but it just SEEMED like every day I'd be dispacthed to a shots fired and the person would be dead when we got to the scene. Funny, because that would mean I was called to 365 out of the supposedly 500 murders in the city. Whatever, I am no longer an officer there and I do not wish to get involved with that job again. Fun times but also miserable times.

And Im sure there are LAPD officers that would respond to a murder call every day. You should have a talk with the LA county coroners officer and see how safe LA is.... lmao

You keep forgetting theres a difference between tenements in single family neighborhoods.

If LA had tenements Im sure their murder rate would be a lot higher than New York City's....

What in the HELL are you talking about? It makes absolutely zero sense.

I'm admitting nothing, no I do not work for the FBI. Yes, I did work for NYPD and am disgruntled by some of their negative behavior. I know nothing about the corruption of NYPD, it was a rumor going around the city and the officers. Whether this is true is not to be determined by me. Do I think it is a corrupt department? Yes, in a way. Did I get discpatched to murders every day? No, nobody does. It just seems like a city like New York would have more murders than 500, which actually is a lot when you think about it. New York has more nutcases than any city in America, other than Chicago, my third favorite city.

I am proud that everybody thinks New York is safe, but I'm here to tell you it's not. I've been browsing this site fora while before I registered and it shocked me that so many people are here saying "New York is soft." New York is not soft at all, grow up. Any city with 500+ murders is not soft. Get a grip.

[A Ghost]

No, it's about my job.

So you admit that the FBI are the ones who create the UCR reports right?

Maybe. Releasing crime stats wasn't my job on NYPD, but it just SEEMED like every day I'd be dispacthed to a shots fired and the person would be dead when we got to the scene. Funny, because that would mean I was called to 365 out of the supposedly 500 murders in the city. Whatever, I am no longer an officer there and I do not wish to get involved with that job again. Fun times but also miserable times.

And Im sure there are LAPD officers that would respond to a murder call every day. You should have a talk with the LA county coroners officer and see how safe LA is.... lmao

You keep forgetting theres a difference between tenements in single family neighborhoods.

If LA had tenements Im sure their murder rate would be a lot higher than New York City's....

What in the HELL are you talking about? It makes absolutely zero sense.

I'm admitting nothing, no I do not work for the FBI. Yes, I did work for NYPD and am disgruntled by some of their negative behavior. I know nothing about the corruption of NYPD, it was a rumor going around the city and the officers. Whether this is true is not to be determined by me. Do I think it is a corrupt department? Yes, in a way. Did I get discpatched to murders every day? No, nobody does. It just seems like a city like New York would have more murders than 500, which actually is a lot when you think about it. New York has more nutcases than any city in America, other than Chicago, my third favorite city.

I am proud that everybody thinks New York is safe, but I'm here to tell you it's not. I've been browsing this site fora while before I registered and it shocked me that so many people are here saying "New York is soft." New York is not soft at all, grow up. Any city with 500+ murders is not soft. Get a grip.

New York neighborhoods are safer than neighborhoods in the most dangerous cities in America.

Get over it.

There might be a handful of NYC neighborhoods that rival the most dangerous cities but that's about it, just a handful.

LA is no different.

Both are major cities and both suffer the same problems.

I dont care how much college you have. You need a reality check and a CAT scan if you think high crime neighborhoods are somehow safer in LA than NY.

You admit that the FBI are the ones who actually compile the crime reports.

Not some "random guy off yahoo" as you put it.

Correct?

[A Ghost]

If NYPD is covering up this extremely valuable information don't you think you should actually be doing something about it instead of typing on a website making light of LA crime rates?

If I knew my police agency was covering up crime stats I would be running to the news channels.

CNN, NBC, MSNBC, Channel 4, ESPN, WHOEVER!


But not FOX news they can such a dick. lol

[UrbanStreets]

No, it's about my job.

So you admit that the FBI are the ones who create the UCR reports right?

Maybe. Releasing crime stats wasn't my job on NYPD, but it just SEEMED like every day I'd be dispacthed to a shots fired and the person would be dead when we got to the scene. Funny, because that would mean I was called to 365 out of the supposedly 500 murders in the city. Whatever, I am no longer an officer there and I do not wish to get involved with that job again. Fun times but also miserable times.

And Im sure there are LAPD officers that would respond to a murder call every day. You should have a talk with the LA county coroners officer and see how safe LA is.... lmao

You keep forgetting theres a difference between tenements in single family neighborhoods.

If LA had tenements Im sure their murder rate would be a lot higher than New York City's....

What in the HELL are you talking about? It makes absolutely zero sense.

I'm admitting nothing, no I do not work for the FBI. Yes, I did work for NYPD and am disgruntled by some of their negative behavior. I know nothing about the corruption of NYPD, it was a rumor going around the city and the officers. Whether this is true is not to be determined by me. Do I think it is a corrupt department? Yes, in a way. Did I get discpatched to murders every day? No, nobody does. It just seems like a city like New York would have more murders than 500, which actually is a lot when you think about it. New York has more nutcases than any city in America, other than Chicago, my third favorite city.

I am proud that everybody thinks New York is safe, but I'm here to tell you it's not. I've been browsing this site fora while before I registered and it shocked me that so many people are here saying "New York is soft." New York is not soft at all, grow up. Any city with 500+ murders is not soft. Get a grip.

New York neighborhoods are safer than neighborhoods in the most dangerous cities in America.

Get over it.

There might be a handful of NYC neighborhoods that rival the most dangerous cities but that's about it, just a handful.

LA is no different.

Both are major cities and both suffer the same problems.

I dont care how much college you have. You need a reality check and a CAT scan if you think high crime neighborhoods are somehow safer in LA than NY.

You admit that the FBI are the ones who actually compile the crime reports.

Not some "random guy off yahoo" as you put it.

Correct?

I know the FBI does these things, but the stats are given to them by the police departments, then a journalist will write articles on it and sometimes twist the real stats up and make them somewhat false.