New York is not America's Safest City

[Mcminister]

hahahaahahaahha

nah man they gon switch the story aruond and say they slipped while tryin to chase u down the block

[EmperorPenguin]

in houston people are actually complainin that the police is covering up murders...word i heard it in the news and the radio and it is actually true...HPD is covering up murders but i didnt really get into it


what dude is sayin bout new york is true in a strange way, like yea new york is safest big city w.e...but brownsville , bushwick, Bed StY(the dangerous side) are very rough places ...i think rougher than places alot of other cities which are considered dangerous places.....harlem is really safe..i stayed there for like 6 days...and it was the fisrt time i went 5 days witout hearin a gun shot.

yea they don have no more dead cops in oakland coz the cops dont come across the brollin 100's unless somebody dead.

Kids in Buffalo don't even run inside the house anymore when they hear gunshots on the block.

They are so immune to it they just keep playing hop scotch and drawing on the sidewalk with chalk.....

No different than NYC...

In my city if you hear gun shots no one cares either. That's because most people think someone shot a moose or a wolf or something to that affect.

There aint no moose or wolves in Buffalo...

Well not anymore, because they're being shot constantly! Hence the gun shots. DUH!

lol

Buffalo isnt exactly the woods man....

The weird thing is I saw more road kill on the QE on my way to Buffalo then I did driving the Alaska Highway numerous times, we're talking 5000+ miles of driving. Porcupine, skunks, deer, all sorts of crazy animals.

[A Ghost]

New York is not copying Los Angeles, but Los Angeles copied New York. Los Angeles gangs were influenced by New York, Chicago and Miami gangs. 'Tis the truth!

Tis lunatic talk!

Watch "Bastards of the Party" and educate yourself.


When the CIA broke apart the Black Panther Party in LA they took away the only thing that effectively policed the hood.

Then the Crips were born. They had absolutely NO ties to NYC at all. They modeled themselves after the Panthers who were originally from Oakland. Then the Bloods formed to protect themselves against the Crips.

Now tell me, where in that timeline do you see any New York connections?

[EmperorPenguin]

A ghost must really hate those...big sweater wearing, fake blood claimin, 5 different 10 pound chain hangin, chucks in the winter wearin,wake up different gang claimin,always hatin, uncle murder listenin, compton copyin, boyz n the hood 5 time watchin, "Son""word" sayin, over cocky folks in new york..

Put it this way.

The next time a New Yorker comes out here and tries some shit with me Im throwin his ass off a porch.

And no, Im not talking about the ones 3 feet off the ground. Im talking the ones 10 feet off the ground.

I'm not trying to shit on your or anything but I loved Buffalo. Great people, and aside from the odd seedy area I felt way more safe there then I did in Los Angeles or even Toronto.

[UrbanStreets]

Oh, I don't know, some problems that infested New York and Chicago about 30-75 years ago before the Crips and Bloods came out. They saw the money the Mob and such was making and wanted in on it. Simple concept.

New York, Miami and Chicago influenced LA's gangsters... Movies such as Scarface and the Godfather may help you understand.

[UrbanStreets]

A ghost must really hate those...big sweater wearing, fake blood claimin, 5 different 10 pound chain hangin, chucks in the winter wearin,wake up different gang claimin,always hatin, uncle murder listenin, compton copyin, boyz n the hood 5 time watchin, "Son""word" sayin, over cocky folks in new york..

Put it this way.

The next time a New Yorker comes out here and tries some shit with me Im throwin his ass off a porch.

And no, Im not talking about the ones 3 feet off the ground. Im talking the ones 10 feet off the ground.

I'm not trying to shit on your or anything but I loved Buffalo. Great people, and aside from the odd seedy area I felt way more safe there then I did in Los Angeles or even Toronto.

Take a drive down Bailey Ave. on the east side of Buffalo and you'll change your mind. Desolate, but dangerous streets.

[Mcminister]

dats prettywierd thing to say dawg

shit gang bangin started inda late 90's befo them movies

[Mcminister]

60's**

[A Ghost]

isnt it suppose to be oposite the more the gun shots heard the more the duck..coz people catch strays u don wana be a victim

wen i hear them on some app. buildin i don duck but...wen im on the fisrt floor i ain gon lie i usualy put my head down shiit i ain finna be no victim.



im pretty sure if they counted it by neighborhoods NY and LA hoods will occupy the top 30

new orleans will have like 5 hoods in the top 10


not neighborhoods coz dats too small...maybe like...south side , westside, northside, eastside or somthin

Thats not a bad idea.

Do Gary, Compton and Camden have North/South/East/West sides? Are they big enough?

Again, the more hairs you split, the smaller the sections get. Does it create a more accurate picture? Most likely. Unfortunately the more you cut it into pieces the more pieces you have to deal with which means more numbers for a person to sift through. What I'm saying is, all that information is great, and I'd be willing to bet it's all available to you online through local county or neighborhood police forces but YOU have to find it. To come out and publish a neighborhood, or county based crime stats would be endless and pointless for the average person.

Sure when a stat comes out saying "Los Angeles is one of the most dangerous cities to live in" what they probably mean is a small cross section of a certain part of the greater LA area is statistically more dangerous then other parts but some of the onus has to be on the reader to dig deeper to find the truth out.

good point.

I am proud that everybody thinks New York is safe, but I'm here to tell you it's not. I've been browsing this site fora while before I registered and it shocked me that so many people are here saying "New York is soft." New York is not soft at all, grow up. Any city with 500+ murders is not soft. Get a grip.

People clown on New Yorkers because they are sick and tired of New Yorkers acting like they are from the worst place on the planet when its not true.

People are sick of their uppity ass attitudes too.

I know 15 year olds from Niagara Falls that would have put a bullet in the head of the most hardened criminal from NYC. And I live in a small city with a moderate crime rate.

You can get bodied in any city in America. Inner city America is the same no matter where you go.

Dude, a Niagara Falls kid running up on a kid from Little Italy wouldn't work out well for Mr. Niagara Falls. lol It just wouldn't.

LMAO!!!

Now I know youre a lunatic.

White kids that cross Hyde Park Boulevard over to the black side have been known to get their asses whooped, just for crossing the line.

White people are terrified of Highland Avenue. lol Ive heard stories of people getting chased out by entire crowds of people.

As a matter of fact the Italians here made their own version of "Little Italy" and they hate blacks. But guess what? Each year there are more and more black businesses that pop up in Little Italy.

So that shows you how "scared" people are. lmao

Blacks are NOT scared of Italians. Real Talk.

[UrbanStreets]

dats prettywierd thing to say dawg

shit gang bangin started inda late 90's befo them movies

Um, no it didn't. It got worse after those movies.

And movies aren't the only thing, news on the radio and television also went out to LA and they heard about the crap going on in NYC, Miami and Chicago.

[Mcminister]

gangs start up from the same ol shit...that mobster, thug, i don give a fuck mentality...jst because someone use to not giev a fuck about the law in atlanta in the 80's and i dont in the 90's dont mean im copying his style ......jst coz jessie james or w.e his name is was robbin trains in the 1800's dont mean if im doin it in the 2000's im copyin his style...its too much of a vague thing to say......if i was copying his walk talk and how he dresses yes..but if i do it in my own way but the same actions its my thing...

crips and bloods are vice lords or gangsta desciples ....or MOBSTERS l..they arent alike in even a little bit....how can u say they jackin style

[UrbanStreets]

isnt it suppose to be oposite the more the gun shots heard the more the duck..coz people catch strays u don wana be a victim

wen i hear them on some app. buildin i don duck but...wen im on the fisrt floor i ain gon lie i usualy put my head down shiit i ain finna be no victim.



im pretty sure if they counted it by neighborhoods NY and LA hoods will occupy the top 30

new orleans will have like 5 hoods in the top 10


not neighborhoods coz dats too small...maybe like...south side , westside, northside, eastside or somthin

Thats not a bad idea.

Do Gary, Compton and Camden have North/South/East/West sides? Are they big enough?

Again, the more hairs you split, the smaller the sections get. Does it create a more accurate picture? Most likely. Unfortunately the more you cut it into pieces the more pieces you have to deal with which means more numbers for a person to sift through. What I'm saying is, all that information is great, and I'd be willing to bet it's all available to you online through local county or neighborhood police forces but YOU have to find it. To come out and publish a neighborhood, or county based crime stats would be endless and pointless for the average person.

Sure when a stat comes out saying "Los Angeles is one of the most dangerous cities to live in" what they probably mean is a small cross section of a certain part of the greater LA area is statistically more dangerous then other parts but some of the onus has to be on the reader to dig deeper to find the truth out.

good point.

I am proud that everybody thinks New York is safe, but I'm here to tell you it's not. I've been browsing this site fora while before I registered and it shocked me that so many people are here saying "New York is soft." New York is not soft at all, grow up. Any city with 500+ murders is not soft. Get a grip.

People clown on New Yorkers because they are sick and tired of New Yorkers acting like they are from the worst place on the planet when its not true.

People are sick of their uppity ass attitudes too.

I know 15 year olds from Niagara Falls that would have put a bullet in the head of the most hardened criminal from NYC. And I live in a small city with a moderate crime rate.

You can get bodied in any city in America. Inner city America is the same no matter where you go.

Dude, a Niagara Falls kid running up on a kid from Little Italy wouldn't work out well for Mr. Niagara Falls. lol It just wouldn't.

LMAO!!!

Now I know youre a lunatic.

White kids that cross Hyde Park Boulevard over to the black side have been known to get their asses whooped, just for crossing the line.

White people are terrified of Highland Avenue. lol Ive heard stories of people getting chased out by entire crowds of people.

As a matter of fact the Italians here made their own version of "Little Italy" and they hate blacks. But guess what? Each year there are more and more black businesses that pop up in Little Italy.

So that shows you how "scared" people are. lmao

Blacks are NOT scared of Italians. Real Talk.

'
Yeah, white people from NIAGARA FALLS, not from New York City. Have you ever seen the move "A Bronx Tale." African Americans were afraid of Italians in the 60s, 0s and 90s and still are today. I'm not racist, it's just a fact that if the Mafia is after you, you're going to be scared. They are one gang I would not want to get on the wrong side with because they can track you down easily.

[A Ghost]

A ghost must really hate those...big sweater wearing, fake blood claimin, 5 different 10 pound chain hangin, chucks in the winter wearin,wake up different gang claimin,always hatin, uncle murder listenin, compton copyin, boyz n the hood 5 time watchin, "Son""word" sayin, over cocky folks in new york..

Put it this way.

The next time a New Yorker comes out here and tries some shit with me Im throwin his ass off a porch.

And no, Im not talking about the ones 3 feet off the ground. Im talking the ones 10 feet off the ground.

Yeah, you do that. There are only about 100 of them up there right now at the Falls. Head over there, tough guy! Come on, don't be shy... New Yorkers are pussies...

Ive heard of New Yorkers getting stabbed up out here for running their mouths.

[UrbanStreets]

And where the Hell did you get that "Black businesses are opening up in Little Italy" crap? Are you smoking smething I need to know about?

[UrbanStreets]

A ghost must really hate those...big sweater wearing, fake blood claimin, 5 different 10 pound chain hangin, chucks in the winter wearin,wake up different gang claimin,always hatin, uncle murder listenin, compton copyin, boyz n the hood 5 time watchin, "Son""word" sayin, over cocky folks in new york..

Put it this way.

The next time a New Yorker comes out here and tries some shit with me Im throwin his ass off a porch.

And no, Im not talking about the ones 3 feet off the ground. Im talking the ones 10 feet off the ground.

Yeah, you do that. There are only about 100 of them up there right now at the Falls. Head over there, tough guy! Come on, don't be shy... New Yorkers are pussies...

Ive heard of New Yorkers getting stabbed up out here for running their mouths.

People from Niagara Falls ARE New Yorkers! They have NY plates, don't they? And if you mean people from Nwew York City, I KNOW you're making things up.

[A Ghost]

A ghost must really hate those...big sweater wearing, fake blood claimin, 5 different 10 pound chain hangin, chucks in the winter wearin,wake up different gang claimin,always hatin, uncle murder listenin, compton copyin, boyz n the hood 5 time watchin, "Son""word" sayin, over cocky folks in new york..

Put it this way.

The next time a New Yorker comes out here and tries some shit with me Im throwin his ass off a porch.

And no, Im not talking about the ones 3 feet off the ground. Im talking the ones 10 feet off the ground.

I'm not trying to shit on your or anything but I loved Buffalo. Great people, and aside from the odd seedy area I felt way more safe there then I did in Los Angeles or even Toronto.

Just because people are friendly doesnt mean everything is all nice and happy.

Spend a decent amount of time on the East Side and you'll see how things REALLY are.

Im not trying to argue with you but as much stuff as I say about the Falls, it's 20X worse on the East Side of Buffalo.

[EmperorPenguin]

A ghost must really hate those...big sweater wearing, fake blood claimin, 5 different 10 pound chain hangin, chucks in the winter wearin,wake up different gang claimin,always hatin, uncle murder listenin, compton copyin, boyz n the hood 5 time watchin, "Son""word" sayin, over cocky folks in new york..

Put it this way.

The next time a New Yorker comes out here and tries some shit with me Im throwin his ass off a porch.

And no, Im not talking about the ones 3 feet off the ground. Im talking the ones 10 feet off the ground.

I'm not trying to shit on your or anything but I loved Buffalo. Great people, and aside from the odd seedy area I felt way more safe there then I did in Los Angeles or even Toronto.

Take a drive down Bailey Ave. on the east side of Buffalo and you'll change your mind. Desolate, but dangerous streets.

I was merely pointing out how I felt during the time I spent in Buffalo. There's areas of L.A., Toronto, Buffalo, any major city I just wouldn't fuck with period. Every city has that area you just don't go to unless you're from there. Everyone I met in Buffalo was great, and damn near every one of them had nothing nice to say about cats from NYC. It certainly wasn't what I expect from the city, though everyones knowledge of geography was pretty limited, especially being so close to Canada as they are. Regardless, great city and I look forward to visiting it again some day. Ghost, show up next time, you still gotta pay for that lap dance. There was like 4 strip joints right near the airport that we could have hit up so you best bring a lot of cash.

[A Ghost]

Oh, I don't know, some problems that infested New York and Chicago about 30-75 years ago before the Crips and Bloods came out. They saw the money the Mob and such was making and wanted in on it. Simple concept.

New York, Miami and Chicago influenced LA's gangsters... Movies such as Scarface and the Godfather may help you understand.

All throughout human history human greed has caused crime.

Thats like me saying The Egyptians killed people over gold coins, therefore Los Angeles people are fake because they copied the Egyptians!

Step your game up

[A Ghost]

A ghost must really hate those...big sweater wearing, fake blood claimin, 5 different 10 pound chain hangin, chucks in the winter wearin,wake up different gang claimin,always hatin, uncle murder listenin, compton copyin, boyz n the hood 5 time watchin, "Son""word" sayin, over cocky folks in new york..

Put it this way.

The next time a New Yorker comes out here and tries some shit with me Im throwin his ass off a porch.

And no, Im not talking about the ones 3 feet off the ground. Im talking the ones 10 feet off the ground.

I'm not trying to shit on your or anything but I loved Buffalo. Great people, and aside from the odd seedy area I felt way more safe there then I did in Los Angeles or even Toronto.

Take a drive down Bailey Ave. on the east side of Buffalo and you'll change your mind. Desolate, but dangerous streets.

This is probably the only time I've ever agreed with you....

[UrbanStreets]

Oh, I don't know, some problems that infested New York and Chicago about 30-75 years ago before the Crips and Bloods came out. They saw the money the Mob and such was making and wanted in on it. Simple concept.

New York, Miami and Chicago influenced LA's gangsters... Movies such as Scarface and the Godfather may help you understand.

All throughout human history human greed has caused crime.

Thats like me saying The Egyptians killed people over gold coins, therefore Los Angeles people are fake because they copied the Egyptians!

Step your game up

lol TELL THAT TO THE ANGELENOS ON HERE!

[UrbanStreets]

You know, I'm really getting tired of arguing. Let's stop, appreciate our different views and move on, shall we?

[Silencioso]

Typical NY person. Doesn't understand the difference between organized crime and street gangs. Yes, L.A. gangmembers have been influenced by the mistyque of the mafia and old school 1920's mobsters like Al Capone and yes L.A. gang members in the 80's incorprated hip hop/b boy styles like thick shoe laces and words like crew and tagging. But that's not NY street gangs. NY street gangs like the Savage Skulls, Black Spades and Savage Nomads that were big in the 70's had no impact whatsoever in L.A. They had a completely different style. Same with 80's gangs like Deceps and LoLifes. No impact.

L.A. gang culture is homegrown, based mostly on the pachuco/cholo tradition with other ethnic groups throwing in their contribution. It's not based on NY.

[EmperorPenguin]

A ghost must really hate those...big sweater wearing, fake blood claimin, 5 different 10 pound chain hangin, chucks in the winter wearin,wake up different gang claimin,always hatin, uncle murder listenin, compton copyin, boyz n the hood 5 time watchin, "Son""word" sayin, over cocky folks in new york..

Put it this way.

The next time a New Yorker comes out here and tries some shit with me Im throwin his ass off a porch.

And no, Im not talking about the ones 3 feet off the ground. Im talking the ones 10 feet off the ground.

I'm not trying to shit on your or anything but I loved Buffalo. Great people, and aside from the odd seedy area I felt way more safe there then I did in Los Angeles or even Toronto.

Just because people are friendly doesnt mean everything is all nice and happy.

Spend a decent amount of time on the East Side and you'll see how things REALLY are.

Im not trying to argue with you but as much stuff as I say about the Falls, it's 20X worse on the East Side of Buffalo.

I'll just copy/paste from my previous post:

I was merely pointing out how I felt during the time I spent in Buffalo. There's areas of L.A., Toronto, Buffalo, any major city I just wouldn't fu-- with period. Every city has that area you just don't go to unless you're from there. Everyone I met in Buffalo was great, and damn near every one of them had nothing nice to say about cats from NYC. It certainly wasn't what I expect from the city, though everyones knowledge of geography was pretty limited, especially being so close to Canada as they are. Regardless, great city and I look forward to visiting it again some day. Ghost, show up next time, you still gotta pay for that lap dance. There was like 4 strip joints right near the airport that we could have hit up so you best bring a lot of cash. Smile

[A Ghost]

isnt it suppose to be oposite the more the gun shots heard the more the duck..coz people catch strays u don wana be a victim

wen i hear them on some app. buildin i don duck but...wen im on the fisrt floor i ain gon lie i usualy put my head down shiit i ain finna be no victim.



im pretty sure if they counted it by neighborhoods NY and LA hoods will occupy the top 30

new orleans will have like 5 hoods in the top 10


not neighborhoods coz dats too small...maybe like...south side , westside, northside, eastside or somthin

Thats not a bad idea.

Do Gary, Compton and Camden have North/South/East/West sides? Are they big enough?

Again, the more hairs you split, the smaller the sections get. Does it create a more accurate picture? Most likely. Unfortunately the more you cut it into pieces the more pieces you have to deal with which means more numbers for a person to sift through. What I'm saying is, all that information is great, and I'd be willing to bet it's all available to you online through local county or neighborhood police forces but YOU have to find it. To come out and publish a neighborhood, or county based crime stats would be endless and pointless for the average person.

Sure when a stat comes out saying "Los Angeles is one of the most dangerous cities to live in" what they probably mean is a small cross section of a certain part of the greater LA area is statistically more dangerous then other parts but some of the onus has to be on the reader to dig deeper to find the truth out.

good point.

I am proud that everybody thinks New York is safe, but I'm here to tell you it's not. I've been browsing this site fora while before I registered and it shocked me that so many people are here saying "New York is soft." New York is not soft at all, grow up. Any city with 500+ murders is not soft. Get a grip.

People clown on New Yorkers because they are sick and tired of New Yorkers acting like they are from the worst place on the planet when its not true.

People are sick of their uppity ass attitudes too.

I know 15 year olds from Niagara Falls that would have put a bullet in the head of the most hardened criminal from NYC. And I live in a small city with a moderate crime rate.

You can get bodied in any city in America. Inner city America is the same no matter where you go.

Dude, a Niagara Falls kid running up on a kid from Little Italy wouldn't work out well for Mr. Niagara Falls. lol It just wouldn't.

LMAO!!!

Now I know youre a lunatic.

White kids that cross Hyde Park Boulevard over to the black side have been known to get their asses whooped, just for crossing the line.

White people are terrified of Highland Avenue. lol Ive heard stories of people getting chased out by entire crowds of people.

As a matter of fact the Italians here made their own version of "Little Italy" and they hate blacks. But guess what? Each year there are more and more black businesses that pop up in Little Italy.

So that shows you how "scared" people are. lmao

Blacks are NOT scared of Italians. Real Talk.

'
Yeah, white people from NIAGARA FALLS, not from New York City. Have you ever seen the move "A Bronx Tale." African Americans were afraid of Italians in the 60s, 0s and 90s and still are today. I'm not racist, it's just a fact that if the Mafia is after you, you're going to be scared. They are one gang I would not want to get on the wrong side with because they can track you down easily.

LOL

Tell that to these stick up kids out here.

They would rob their own grannies.... lol

As a matter of fact the book Im reading right now is about a hood in New York. East Harlem. Spanish Harlem, El Barrio.

The Mafia has very little control over it nowadays. The only thing they control is who they rent the building apartments out to.

Once all the Mob bosses got locked up people were burglarizing the shit out of their businesses. They didnt give a fuck if it was mob related.

Watch New Jack City.

Black crack dealers didnt give a fuck about a New York Italian...

[Mcminister]

lol "^^ word

u foo;s trippin shit i got class to go to...all i gota say ..its just CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALI....CALI IS HARD ooooOOOO CALI IS HARD..

[UrbanStreets]

Actually, the Mob has much control in NYC nowadays, it's just kept under covers more. There's a court case going on now regarding a Mobster who killed a man in Prospect Park (?) in Brooklyn while walking his dog. Maybe it's over by now, haven't really been up-to-date on that case.

[A Ghost]

Oh, I don't know, some problems that infested New York and Chicago about 30-75 years ago before the Crips and Bloods came out. They saw the money the Mob and such was making and wanted in on it. Simple concept.

New York, Miami and Chicago influenced LA's gangsters... Movies such as Scarface and the Godfather may help you understand.

All throughout human history human greed has caused crime.

Thats like me saying The Egyptians killed people over gold coins, therefore Los Angeles people are fake because they copied the Egyptians!

Step your game up

lol TELL THAT TO THE ANGELENOS ON HERE!

I telling that to you.

Youre the one saying that the Bloods and Crips were influenced by The Gottis...



Los Angeles people on here have a right to blame New York for Swagger Jacking. NYC has people calling themselves Bloods and Crips.

Your argument would hold water if there were massive roaming gangs in LA that called themselves the "Gambino crews" or the "Luciano mafia"

No, LA had its own criminal culture that was NOT influenced by New York.


But New York now has a criminal culture that WAS influenced by LA.

[A Ghost]

You know, I'm really getting tired of arguing. Let's stop, appreciate our different views and move on, shall we?

I have a final paper to finish.

Ill get back to this later.

[A Ghost]

A ghost must really hate those...big sweater wearing, fake blood claimin, 5 different 10 pound chain hangin, chucks in the winter wearin,wake up different gang claimin,always hatin, uncle murder listenin, compton copyin, boyz n the hood 5 time watchin, "Son""word" sayin, over cocky folks in new york..

Put it this way.

The next time a New Yorker comes out here and tries some shit with me Im throwin his ass off a porch.

And no, Im not talking about the ones 3 feet off the ground. Im talking the ones 10 feet off the ground.

I'm not trying to shit on your or anything but I loved Buffalo. Great people, and aside from the odd seedy area I felt way more safe there then I did in Los Angeles or even Toronto.

Just because people are friendly doesnt mean everything is all nice and happy.

Spend a decent amount of time on the East Side and you'll see how things REALLY are.

Im not trying to argue with you but as much stuff as I say about the Falls, it's 20X worse on the East Side of Buffalo.

I'll just copy/paste from my previous post:

I was merely pointing out how I felt during the time I spent in Buffalo. There's areas of L.A., Toronto, Buffalo, any major city I just wouldn't fu-- with period. Every city has that area you just don't go to unless you're from there. Everyone I met in Buffalo was great, and damn near every one of them had nothing nice to say about cats from NYC. It certainly wasn't what I expect from the city, though everyones knowledge of geography was pretty limited, especially being so close to Canada as they are. Regardless, great city and I look forward to visiting it again some day. Ghost, show up next time, you still gotta pay for that lap dance. There was like 4 strip joints right near the airport that we could have hit up so you best bring a lot of cash. Smile

Oh yeah I forgot about that.... LOL

[Mcminister]

wow Aghost u really went at it with this dude...

its my fault it switched from Ny being bad to NY being fake..i had to mention Ny niggaz are fake calimin im sorry yall

[Mcminister]

anywayz IM GHOST

[A Ghost]

Actually, the Mob has much control in NYC nowadays, it's just kept under covers more. There's a court case going on now regarding a Mobster who killed a man in Prospect Park (?) in Brooklyn while walking his dog. Maybe it's over by now, haven't really been up-to-date on that case.

One incident compared to hundreds decades ago.....