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There has been an increase in gang and youth groups in many Western European cities that have seen an influx of immigrants. There is also a significant organized crime coming from Eastern Europe In this section discuss Austria [Österreich], Denmark [ Danmark], England, France [FRANSS], Finland, Germany [Deutschland], Greece [Ελληνική, Elliniki], Ireland, Italy [italiana], Netherlands [Nederland], Norway [Norge], Rossiyskaya], Scotland, Spain [España] Sweden [Sverige] and the UK including any place on the Western European continent.
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Postby Birmz SOLDIER » July 2nd, 2005, 3:19 pm

nice read peeps...

intersting about the london stuff..

up here london gets slept on

birms and the west mids, (and notts, which is east) believe it or not am kinda turning into LA imo, condsidering all guns are illegal. far too many shootings..half of them never get publicised. when them girls got killed the press made a meal of it cuz they were..well.. girls, basically.

manchester used to be completly off the hook. 14 yr olds shotting crack wearing bullet proof vests and carrying fuckin sub machine guns..clubs apparently used to be real bad, when jungle was played back in the day..mans lickin off shotguns at the roof..gang shootouts IN the clubs etc..

its real.

i love it the way some americans say stuff like "aah brits are nothing, sip tea and speak like the queen"

its getting crazy on the streets man trust
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Postby NW10 » July 5th, 2005, 3:15 pm

Noog wrote:In hackney we got to name but a few-


How about:?

Kingsland Crew
Hackney Posse
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Postby Vanreyes » July 8th, 2005, 10:01 am

yo NW10, can i ask u a quesdtion man. How come u no so much about these gangs?..are u a police informer,or former gang member?..where do the london field boys hang out, are they notrious?..whenever im in dalston(like near dalston market) i hardly ever see gangs..are tehy really undercover or wot?..
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Postby gungor_aga » July 8th, 2005, 1:58 pm

i've heard that te turkish and kurdish maffia, gangs... run the drugs bussines in london, is that true?
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Postby NW10 » July 9th, 2005, 2:29 am

Vanreyes wrote:yo NW10, can i ask u a quesdtion man. How come u no so much about these gangs?..are u a police informer,or former gang member?..where do the london field boys hang out, are they notrious?..whenever im in dalston(like near dalston market) i hardly ever see gangs..are tehy really undercover or wot?..


Ask Noog about Hackney man he lives there, London Fields he'll know about. You probably wont notice much as many people are oblivious to whats goin on. Its not like the stereotypical Bloods n Crips where you identify gangs by dress and colour out in their numbers. A lot of stuff in this country is well covered though.

We got a lot of hustlers n dealers here on our streets, some identify with gangs others just know the gangs but for the most part they are just a patchwork of criminals that in some way or other can be connected.

You could be walking past "gangmembers" everyday in Hackney and not even realise.

I aint no police informer, hate the police. Aint no gang member, if i was i wouldnt be on this website, id be out earning with the rest of my boys.

gungor_aga wrote:i've heard that te turkish and kurdish maffia, gangs... run the drugs bussines in london, is that true?


I wouldnt say they ran the drugs business but they do have strong influence on the heroin trade. You never know though with the organised crime groups as they keep things under wraps, but when they do come out fuckin hell do they show it

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2440087.stm
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Postby Kemosave » July 19th, 2005, 11:04 pm

I bet Noog has the word on his town. Funny, I remember the Brawl and the Hall where Ian Freeman was carrying on with his win screaming "England! England!" over and over.. lol. He got booed eventually! Took it to the extreme I gather. Same would have happened here.

Anyway, those white guys running the numbers Ian kissed up to ON CAMERA were definitely running the action. Interesting. Peace.
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Postby Noog » July 20th, 2005, 8:59 am

Ian Freeman? whodat?

Hey Brimz Soldier - share about Brim would you 'cos I appreciate that it crazy up there and that ain't just the accent!
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Postby Kemosave » July 20th, 2005, 4:36 pm

Ian Freeman was all over the news in England a couple of years ago. He was fighting in the UFC "to represent England" is what he said. He won too.
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Postby Noog » July 21st, 2005, 2:52 am

Don't know much about those whites in the boxing. I understand though that in London and Essex there are many 'Firms' - older school British hardmen in the organised side of the underground - from the family trees of old timers like the Kray twins and their Firm. I understand that the original Firm is also active. Thing is, those old school people keep things as hidden as possible, they not for the streets.
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Postby Boris » July 21st, 2005, 6:59 am

Kemosave wrote:Ian Freeman was all over the news in England a couple of years ago. He was fighting in the UFC "to represent England" is what he said. He won too.


I was watchin UFC recently and saw another bre from London...Danny something?? Wasnt white tho...
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Postby Kemosave » July 21st, 2005, 10:01 pm

Noog wrote:Don't know much about those whites in the boxing. I understand though that in London and Essex there are many 'Firms' - older school British hardmen in the organised side of the underground - from the family trees of old timers like the Kray twins and their Firm. I understand that the original Firm is also active. Thing is, those old school people keep things as hidden as possible, they not for the streets.


Oh the Kray twins. Now those were a couple of internationally famous criminal playboys. Americans, check this out. Very interesting British history. I first heard of them around 1985 myself:

[img]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kray_twins[/img]
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Postby NW10 » August 1st, 2005, 12:16 pm

Gang thought they were untouchable calling themself "Pakidom"

£16M DRUG BARON ORDERED TO PAY 29 PENCE

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objecti ... _page.html
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The toughest areas in the UK are in Ireland and N Irelaand

Postby devin79 » August 1st, 2005, 12:26 pm

The Loyalist areas of Belfast are easily among the most dangerous areas of the UK. Having said that, thier are areas in the Irish Republic that are as dangerous if not more so (especially the ones with heavy IRA activity).

But the absolute worst are the Catholic ghettos of Northern Ireland. Places like the falls road, Crossmaglen, the Bogside, ballymurphy and others are under the complete control of the IRA. even the British Army are wary of going into those places. During the war, UDA and UVF men would be shot on sight if they entered those areas. Even the most hardcore gang areas of LA, Boston, New York, or Chicago, are picnics compared to the warzones of Northern Ireland.
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Postby Noog » August 2nd, 2005, 4:19 am

Yeah you are right bout that, but its a history of political violence, not gang violence in that part of the world in the main. And now the IRA have called it a day and theyve recieved the order to withdraw from all activities, including revenue by crime and even punishment beatings/kneecappings.

The Loyalists however (UVF ETC), they involved in fueds and beef and they pretend they political but they are gangsters these days, and f***in' nasty psychos!
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Postby Noog » August 2nd, 2005, 4:22 am

By the way - just read about an 18 year old black lad - a very promising student and all round good guy - got jumped by a racist gang in Liverpool. Poor lad was found with an axe embedded in his head. Made me very angry, poor bastard.
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Postby NW10 » August 2nd, 2005, 5:43 am

Noog wrote:By the way - just read about an 18 year old black lad - a very promising student and all round good guy - got jumped by a racist gang in Liverpool. Poor lad was found with an axe embedded in his head. Made me very angry, poor bastard.


Yer happened on saturday, you'd think we'd be past that shit in this country. Its a sad thing, my grandad said he's ashamed to be from Merseyside right now cos of that unheeded violence. Puts a bad name on people. Something Merseyside has suffered with before unneccesarily ie Hillsborough disaster
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Postby adamned » August 2nd, 2005, 10:26 am

was huyton nf scalls did that.
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Postby Noog » August 5th, 2005, 9:37 am

F**kin' pieces of sh*t - turns out one o them was a brother of that Manchester City footballer, Joey Barton - theyve been lifted now though and I hope justice will be served as cold as they murdered that boy.
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Postby NW10 » August 7th, 2005, 6:58 pm

Having Success With Teesside Drug Gangs: A few of the notable successes for Cleveland Police over the past couple of years.

Drugs baron locked away
http://icteesside.icnetwork.co.uk/0100n ... _page.html

Five held in drug raids
http://icteesside.icnetwork.co.uk/0100n ... _page.html

Drugs gang handed jail sentences
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/4119481.stm

£130,000 worth of heroin seized
http://icteesside.icnetwork.co.uk/0100n ... _page.html

Multi-Million Pound Drug Dealing Gang to be Sentenced
http://www.bedfordshire.police.uk/news/ ... _uid1=1124

Peddlers in death
http://icteesside.icnetwork.co.uk/0100n ... _page.html

Teesside's Drug Web
http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=22797

Weymouth Heroin Gang headed by Middlesbrough man charged
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... pedl29.xml

Undercover police praised as heroin gang locked up
http://www.thisisthenortheast.co.uk/the ... .teby.html

£6 Million Drugs gang jailed
http://www.thisisthenortheast.co.uk/the ... ed.re.html

The family trading in evil
http://icteesside.icnetwork.co.uk/0100n ... _page.html

Drugs empire of Tees hitman
http://icteesside.icnetwork.co.uk/ic/ev ... _page.html
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Postby britishbulldog88 » August 8th, 2005, 12:03 pm

I'm from Oldham. Plenty of Racial Tension and for good reason.

Whites v the Pakis 8)

The pakis havent really done much of note, they just pick on lone white lads in town in huge numbers. We've gone down to their areas plenty of times and they've never been able to match us.

Latest news is that 5 school kids have just been sent to detention centres for rounding up a gang of 100 other kids too batter a group of pakis.

There's hundreds of white lads, be it from schools, estates. Pakis realise that and cant match it :wink: thats why they stick to throwing petrol bombs against police outside there houses and are never seen around the town at night 8)

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Postby NW10 » August 9th, 2005, 6:44 am

Try to lay off the racist slur^^^^

Carry on here in part II

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