Germany Gangs II

There has been an increase in gang and youth groups in many Western European cities that have seen an influx of immigrants. There is also a significant organized crime coming from Eastern Europe In this section discuss Austria [Österreich], Denmark [ Danmark], England, France [FRANSS], Finland, Germany [Deutschland], Greece [Ελληνική, Elliniki], Ireland, Italy [italiana], Netherlands [Nederland], Norway [Norge], Rossiyskaya], Scotland, Spain [España] Sweden [Sverige] and the UK including any place on the Western European continent.
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby Anonymous20 » February 8th, 2005, 11:25 am

yeah

u act like U.S is the only country with problems or something
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby Tork » February 8th, 2005, 12:07 pm

One of the few shootings in Germany :


Yesterday evening at about 9 p.m. a turkish woman aged 23 got killed in a drive-by-shooting standing at a bus station in Berlin .
The shooter and the background are unknown yet but -in my opinion- it was not gang-related , because turkish gangs don´t even have female members , that wouldn´t fit their islamic education .
So this shooting seems to be some family feud or has something to do with family-honour .

More about it :

http://www.berlin.de/polizei/Presse/arc ... index.html
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby Anonymous20 » February 8th, 2005, 12:23 pm

Man thats sum fucked up shit killing a 23 year old woman....damn:S
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby cubanlatina08 » February 8th, 2005, 4:17 pm

igiht look. When you say that ppl in europe wont do nuthin, ur wrong, b.c all that shit about 10 yr olds smokin and shit, that is all b.c of the public. If you guys dont want them to ditch school. Ground em...thats how ppl do it ova here...and then for example...in the us, you hear about how these teens get there ass pregnant. and then they leave thier babie on the streets or sumn. But if we had the promotion of safe sex...the condoms in the bathrooms, then you wouldnt be hearin about it all the time. If we was like Germany or Europe, they sit there and but up bill bords on the streets and say how its good not to get aids...if we had that here, then you really wouldnt hear about it. But when you talk about the smokin. They have all these machines on the streets that sell them to anyone who wants them. When they have the main law that says that if you are over the age of 12 then you are legal to smoke. In germany they have indoor smokin, and thats mainly b.c most of the public smokes...if they begin to bann that mess...then they would be reinforcing the laws that we have over here..then when you talk about the electricty shortage, well if many ppl start to quit smokin...which by the way....over 17% of the Germany pop. is having ppl under the age of 18 smokin, then the public would tax, and ppl would have money to provide the electricty for schools. so dont even complain about things arent goin well for your country. because if you guys really wanted anything that we have over here, then you would work for em jus like we had to and are still doing.
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby gungor_aga » February 8th, 2005, 5:04 pm

RIP for my turkish sister, and if I have red it correctly she's being killed next to her 5 year old son? nobody in the turkish culture would kill a mother in front of their childeren, it has to be something else.

f**k the one who did something like that.
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby Sentenza » February 8th, 2005, 7:09 pm

i agree with you gungor.....may he burn in hell....
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby Tork » February 8th, 2005, 7:37 pm

Naw , her son wasn´t next to her , her son was at home . But its bs though .

Let´s see what police finds out - they are usually pretty effective ...
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby D.B.I.H.GG » February 9th, 2005, 3:30 am

Ok, maybe in a few points ur right but:

1. I dont speak about germany because in germ. There are the same living standards like in the u.s.
2. That smokin stuff was just an example, so dont hang on it
3. Where u wanna sent the ppl to work when there is no work? In Bosnia or Albania was war. In Bosnia are 40% unemployment. And u wanna tell me that these 40% are just too lazy to go to work? Where u wanna employ ur workers when all these buildings are bombed away? How u wanna built a factory where u can employ ur workers when the country cant afford it. Maybe I expressed myself wrong, it isnt so that system won’t do nuthin, the system CAN’T do nuthin. And if its so easy to raise a GDP of a country why are there still so many poor countries in the world?
4. How u wanna feed ur, for example 2 or 3 children, when ur workin 12 hours a day and just earnin 50 bucks a week? And the scary thing about that is, that this is the average earning from a normal worker. So, how u wanna live when u can’t afford u nuthin, when ur wearin the same clothes every fuccin day, when ur eatin the same shit every day. And for many ppl there is not every day somethin to eat. How is it when u have no money to repair ur car, or u have no money to go to a doctor when ur ill. Now the next problem : what do u think the kids are doin’ when they have too much free time, when the school’s out again out again, because like every day somethin’ different is not workin’, and they can’t repair it because, again , they have no money. So, what do u think they do out on the streets without money in the pockets? They are startin’to make money in an illegal way, they steal, they rob ppl and so on. I hope u see that the smoking is the smallest problem.

I know how it is to wake every fuccin’ morning up on the floor of ur room because u have no bed and to think about, as an 9 year old child, how i’m gonna get through this day. And the bad thing is, that u can’t do shit. U can go to work but ur still not earnin’ enough money to get u alone through life.
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby Mraka » February 9th, 2005, 8:21 am

gungor_aga wrote:RIP for my turkish sister, and if I have red it correctly she's being killed next to her 5 year old son? nobody in the turkish culture would kill a mother in front of their childeren, it has to be something else.

f**k the one who did something like that.


oh you are so wrong ,in fact it is typical for turkish poeple ;that revenge thing.so name it in future.you just thought nobody knows about this issue,and getting less jail for something like that.
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby cubanlatina08 » February 9th, 2005, 5:45 pm

Yea all ur shit is true and wut not..but you gotta look at europe in GENERAL as you sed. Not everyone over in Europe is like that and if you are, then you learn to get thru that. When you sit there and complain on a site that is about gangs...which BTW....we aint that sub no more...you are wrong. B.c there are other places that have help for ppl like that. So i dunno why your sitting there comlaining about how bad you got it, when there are ppl out there, who have it a million times worse that you do. So you needa stop your BS whining, and either talk to ppl who can actually do sumthing, or jus stop complaining about it in general and do sumn about it self. until then, you needa stop complainin, because aint no body on this site can help you out.
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby D.B.I.H.GG » February 10th, 2005, 1:26 am

but europe is not a country its a continent, im speakin bout countries. Also I never asked somebody to help me or my folks out because, I helped myself out years ago. I jus wanted to explain how the slums in ex-jugo originated and how the little street gangs in eastern europe were founded. OK, let us stop this BS conversation, i'm tired of.
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby gungor_aga » February 10th, 2005, 9:42 am

mraka why should i think something like that???

1. I'm turkish, so u don't now it better then me.
2. it's against the rulez to do something like that because of your pride...
3. and about getting less jail??? why should i give a f**k about someone who did this???
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby Tork » February 11th, 2005, 5:09 am

D.B.I.H.GG wrote:1. I dont speak about germany because in germ. There are the same living standards like in the u.s.


Simply not right
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby Mraka » February 11th, 2005, 5:09 am

Gungur,if you knew better,ok.What is the pride thing? 1.It is tradition ;and revenge is tilting out some areas there.It was common right to charge the revenge delict less than the crime in common,untill some weeks ago.
What kind of turk are you?Other guys are exatly proud of that stuff,that happens in the name of tradition ,for the pride of the family.So maybe you are a misled one.
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby Mraka » February 11th, 2005, 5:11 am

Tork wrote:
D.B.I.H.GG wrote:1. I dont speak about germany because in germ. There are the same living standards like in the u.s.


Simply not right


Where is the difference??tork?
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby gungor_aga » February 11th, 2005, 5:31 am

mraka how the hell can u be pride if you kill a mother in front of her childeren??? and i'm a turk wich has an honour okey??? don't judge someone if u don't now him.
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby mxdchikk0305 » February 11th, 2005, 3:46 pm

oky im gonna ryte sumthin & i hope no1 iz offended by it but i just want ya'll 2 hear me out b4 u try 2 cut me off @ the throat. oky, thiz page wuz supposed 2 b used 2 inform ppl bout gangz in Germany & now itz lyke who has it worse between Germany & America. and not 2 b mean or nuthin but as i re-read sum of these posts, it seemz lyke all we're doin iz tryin 2 prove 2 each otha tht our country has worst ghettos when thtz not exactly not sumthin 2 b proud of. i kno tht a lot of ppl on tv r glorifyin bein 4rm the ghetto & hustlin & pimpin or wuteva. and even tho those r the wrong wayz 2 get wut u need, 4 sum ppl there iz no choice. so can sum1 please answer me this, y r we glorifyin the worst part of our countriez if we're gonna turn around & tell otherz tht we r ashamed of them? u dont hafta answer if u dont want, but if u do tht wuld help me undastand betta. holla ~1~
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby Sentenza » February 12th, 2005, 11:40 am

Gloryfying gangs and crime is nothing but immature in the end and nothing we shold include in the discussion. but look at teh board, everywhere are guys that try to tell you how hard their hood is and blablabla.
The starting point for this discussion was if there are gangs in Germany or not. Yes there are some definitely, but they are way less dangerous than in the US or somewhere else....Period.
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby Mraka » February 12th, 2005, 2:51 pm

gangs are gangs are gangs
death, murder ,crime doesn`t hurt less elsewhere
I know gangs ,their biography ,and their members biography.
I rose up close to some,& in and out of them.
it got worse with HipHopculture mobs and gangs,but it was and uprising against nazi turn outs,you know (bomber)spitfire-jackets short hair REPublikaner-and DVU party,Dr.Martencs shoes and Lonsdasle sweaters.
It was only as hard or less then the whole nazi population and was close to tatally nonpolitic.
Some I know where first Fascho like;to get women and drinking and untill Rap came for ghetto lifestyle.
While one or two generations before did beat one another ,they had a reason for living in between,and less choices.
Maybe the loss of lives during WW2 is revealed and population has got another mixture.
You know how ra(i)dical older poeple are about live and let die.They don`t need a reason at all actually.(5 sentences in http://www.bild.de are enough to start anything,or as it has never ended)
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby European » February 12th, 2005, 3:19 pm

yeah i know wannabe bloods in munich and other towns in bavaria. but they are wannabe bloods. there are mostly rich young people in these gangs. they do know: the bloods were red . but they dont know why peoples for example in l.a are joining a gang. thats my point.
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby True Life » February 14th, 2005, 2:40 pm

y'all are pretty ridiculous... especially dude who thinks he's banging but still got the time to go forth and back with peeps on this board over every little BS...

I could tell many hood stories, but it doesn't make sense to post them on the net... because more than the half thinks u are a faker anyway... so I leave it...
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby Sentenza » February 24th, 2005, 6:15 pm

yea true this topic is kind of ridiculous, cause there are no fearsome gangs in germany except for those mafia guys , but they are working behind closed doors....so fuck it
Compared to many other countries Germany is wonderland!
---> South Africa, Brasil, USA, Russia, Kenya etc etc.
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby Diesiochero » February 26th, 2005, 9:53 am

Q'vo this is the BIG BAD ONE EIGHT STREET!!!damn man fuck the crips fuck the bloods crazy niggas!we want to find out where the mara salvatrucha 13 are in germany!germany is no MS 13 territory, its 18 street territory!!VIVA LA CALLE DIES18CHO...represent the BIG 18 world wide!
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby Hamburg » March 7th, 2005, 4:12 am

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:10 am by true life
anyone from Hamburg?
I'm representing the 2-1-5 or call it Mümmel and crazy shit goes down in whole Billstedt, ask anyone from Hamburg...

but people are right it's different from american gangs, you shouldn't even call it in germany like that, instead you should say "street activities"... and most of the time it's a ethnical thing or about what district you represent... type of groups and "gangs" I've seen "bangin":

AFG: it's a big gang of afghans who run over shit like what
M-T-B: Mümmel Tiger Boys, let's say they run Mümmel for some decades now already, they once was called Mümmel Türkish Boys, but it became a district thang
Mümmel: It's a district, not a gang, everyone like a big family and we always help eachother out against ppl from outside, but it really gets bad if it comes down to beef of Mümmler against Mümmler... when my parents moved here in the '80s this was the most scaring district of hamburg you could say... and hamburg ain't small... even the flat owner was telling my parents to not move here and everyone you told was like wtf?!... ppl say it got better now but I think they just don't see what is going on infront of their door
Afghans: they are really many over here
Turkeys: They are even more hahahaha
Russians: they are some but they don't belong to one of them who run anything, tho' they often involved in street activities
Blacks: properly the same like russians but they get a lot more respect from other ethnics than russians
Gypsys: they run that industrial district hahaha... they can get really bad and sometimes act like homeless fucks
Nazis: Hahahahaha... bring some Nazis to Mümmel or even Billstedt and they get squashed faster than ants, better believe that
Germans: I feel bad for them, because for many simply being german it makes you a nerd and that means getting beat up now and then without a reason

that's about it what goes down here... always big ass brawls between different disctricts and a lot of crime here... I would say I'm from the hardest part of Hamburg, that makes almost the hardest part of whole northern germany since there's not really a bigger city in the north haha... and I'm not saying that to sound like a net banger, because I don't bang on the net or in real life... but I know peeps who do, so I know what I'm talking about, I grew up with this shit...

and yeah, we don't drive-by, throw up gang signs, trip over colors or shit like that... and I was in Berlin and run thru the heart of Kreuzberg in night and day, there are maaaaaaany turkish peeps and some really look thuggish, but noone was steppin' to me, know what I mean? but street activities here in east hamburg (or in whole germany) not really get spread on the media, maybe in local newspapers but not on the television, radio stations or even not on the net...

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right mate. do you remenber the 80s gangs from mümmel? the champs, who had two sets st.pauli and billstedt/mümmel and their rivals from mümmel the warriors (german gang). or the wars between afghans and persians/iranians mid to late 80s?
ever heard of HSV fan club Bunny Hill? mean german lads from the 70s? guess where they were coming from:-)
talking of the hardest district in HH. ever been to wilhelmsburg / süderelbe? what do you mean by industrial district billbrook deich/berze etc?
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby Diesiochero » March 14th, 2005, 9:04 am

ehy ese 18 Street are bigger than your gang....PURO CALLE DIESIOCHO CONTROLANDO
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby phizzle » March 16th, 2005, 11:30 am

Hi
i feel sorry that my first comment actually isnt about the given topic !!!

Hamburg why you disrespecting the germans like that?

Germans: I feel bad for them, because for many simply being german it makes you a nerd and that means getting beat up now and then without a reason

Do you have any reason?
Im german you know...
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby Hamburg » March 16th, 2005, 12:04 pm

phizzle wrote:Hi
i feel sorry that my first comment actually isnt about the given topic !!!

Hamburg why you disrespecting the germans like that?

Germans: I feel bad for them, because for many simply being german it makes you a nerd and that means getting beat up now and then without a reason

Do you have any reason?
Im german you know...


read again mate. first part of my post is a quote from part1 of this topic...
i´m obviously german as well btw.
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby gungor_aga » March 16th, 2005, 3:50 pm

hamburg like I said before turkish people r the most powerfull of germany, the biggest ethnic group of germany, they run every illigal shit in germany. and i'm from belgium like u said germans are just nerd because they're german, here in belgium it's the same. if you're belgian, every turkish guy here makes fun of u, we feel sorry for them, don't ask why, i think just because they all r sissy's. they'r really scared of us and i think the germans r the same, but i don't understand why.
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby cubanlatina08 » March 16th, 2005, 9:57 pm

gungor_aga Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: Germany gangs II

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hamburg like I said before turkish people r the most powerfull of germany, the biggest ethnic group of germany, they run every illigal shit in germany. and i'm from belgium like u said germans are just nerd because they're german, here in belgium it's the same. if you're belgian, every turkish guy here makes fun of u, we feel sorry for them, don't ask why, i think just because they all r sissy's. they'r really scared of us and i think the germans r the same, but i don't understand why.






The only reason that ther turks run germany is because their asses fucced up their own home, so they feel that they have to go some where to leave it. however, it makes no sence to leave because then, they go and start their own things, and do shyt that is illegal. It dont make no sence to me b.c no matter what, they left to get away from all that, and yet no matter where they go, they have to bring that mess with them. Sum one plz tell me why.
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby Anonymous20 » March 17th, 2005, 10:03 am

In turkey theres prolly immigrants who think turkish are pussies..
ETC ETC ..
its like that everywhere..
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby Hamburg » March 17th, 2005, 11:11 am

gungor_aga wrote:hamburg like I said before turkish people r the most powerfull of germany, the biggest ethnic group of germany, they run every illigal shit in germany. and i'm from belgium like u said germans are just nerd because they're german, here in belgium it's the same. if you're belgian, every turkish guy here makes fun of u, we feel sorry for them, don't ask why, i think just because they all r sissy's. they'r really scared of us and i think the germans r the same, but i don't understand why.


yeah, errrm, well.....
why?
maybe because german people are generally very patient, polite and friendly towards guests and treat them as such.
no one knows how long it will take til the patience comes to an end though. the future will tell who the most powerful people in germany are. me? i do know already. and if you are not sure about the answer look up a couple of history books.
for most people in the world it´s no secret what the "sissy"-people of germany can be capable of....
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Re: Germany gangs II

Postby Hamburg » March 17th, 2005, 11:22 am

and - btw - for you again:
I DID NOT SAY GERMANS WERE NERDS.
THE FIRST PART OF MY POST IS A QUOTE Q - U - O - T - E
This means means someone else posted it. in this case it was someone registered under the name of "truelife" and the QUOTE was taken from the "germany gangs pt1"-topic which was closed by the admin.
got it?
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