WWII

[CheGuevara]

i was thinking since organized crime in this forum is not worth talking about. we would have this discussion instead.

please, only knowledgable people on this thread. no macedonian crime lords and no dutch crime dynasties on here and no compton gang bangers either. start up questions...

who started it?
which is worse, nazism, communism or capitalism?
was hitler funded by the US?
does the jewish conspriacy exist?
why would US side with communism instead of nazism?
why did japan choose fascism over the allied forces?

[CheGuevara]

also, was hitler's goal to wipe out anybody non-blued eyed, blonde haired people a myth created by his enemies or was it real?

i read mein kampf. well, i read the race section of it. he never mentioned anything about blonde haired, blued eyed people but he mentioned aryan quite alot. but aryan is anybody of indo-european culture or language including iranians.

[Azure9920]

who started it?

Officially, Germany did when they began invading the Czech's and Poland. However, the actual root of the war goes much further back, to the Treaty of Versailles. Hindsight is always 20/20, but had the allies not taken such a ridiculously harsh stance on Germany following World War 1, Hitler would have never came about.

was hitler funded by the US?

The government? No. However, many prominent American socialites and businessmen supported the Nazi regime. Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh, IBM provided the system Hitler used to catalogue the Jews, and many other Americans supported Hitler in the early years building up to the war.

"I regard Henry Ford as my inspiration"- Adolf Hitler. He even gave Ford the highest award a foreigner can get in Germany.

why would US side with communism instead of nazism?

They didn't so much side with Russia as side with her Western European allies and Australia against the Axis.

why did japan choose fascism over the allied forces?

Simply put, the Allies were against Japan's imperial expansion in the Pacific and Asia, as well as their crimes against humanity. All three major Axis nations(Germany, Italy, Japan) wished to govern their respective regions of influence(Europe, Africa, Asia) under an imperial totalitarian state, so in that respect they had common goals.

[CheGuevara]

Officially, Germany did when they began invading the Czech's and Poland. However, the actual root of the war goes much further back, to the Treaty of Versailles. Hindsight is always 20/20, but had the allies not taken such a ridiculously harsh stance on Germany following World War 1, Hitler would have never came about.

mein kampf was one racist ass book. and it was a best seller in germany. i don't believe hitler only rose because of the severe living conditions germans went through after wwi. i think germans in general were pretty racist and conservative and didn't like the government which didn't seem to be doing anything in terms of economic improvement. hitler was not the only nationalist around during that time. his voice helped him out alot as well if you understand what i mean by that.

poland was also killing germans in mass numbers a little bit prior to german takeover.

The government? No. However, many prominent American socialites and businessmen supported the Nazi regime. Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh, IBM provided the system Hitler used to catalogue the Jews, and many other Americans supported Hitler in the early years building up to the war.

"I regard Henry Ford as my inspiration"- Adolf Hitler. He even gave Ford the highest award a foreigner can get in Germany.

it's said that the federal reserve had a big hand in funding hitler and his ss stormtroopers organization. as well as playing a part in giving hitler a relatively easy sentence for his attempt at taking over the german government in 1924 i think it was or 1926.

wow, henry ford? what the fvck is up with that? was henry ford a nazi???

They didn't so much side with Russia as side with her Western European allies and Australia against the Axis.

bottom line is, russia and england attacked germany together. in the end, germany was split amongst anglo and communist control (east, west germany). so on literal terms. they did side with russia.

my question is, how could they side with russia instead of germany? regardless of how ruthless and stubborn the nazis were, communism is enslavement and for a good 40 years, it enslaved and made over 1,400,000,000 peoples lives hell on earth.

[Azure9920]

mein kampf was one racist ass book. and it was a best seller in germany. i don't believe hitler only rose because of the severe living conditions germans went through after wwi. i think germans in general were pretty racist and conservative and didn't like the government which didn't seem to be doing anything in terms of economic improvement. hitler was not the only nationalist around during that time. his voice helped him out alot as well if you understand what i mean by that.

I couldn't really tell you whether or not a lot Germans were racist before Hitler started his Jew propaganda. However, I can tell you that fascism relies a lot on using a scapegoat in order to push for change, in this case he used the Jews to cover up his imperial motives.

Hitler was also a great orator, if that's what you're referring to. His speeches drew people from all over Germany, even before he was elected.

poland was also killing germans in mass numbers a little bit prior to german takeover.

Really?

it's said that the federal reserve had a big hand in funding hitler and his ss stormtroopers organization. as well as playing a part in giving hitler a relatively easy sentence for his attempt at taking over the german government in 1924 i think it was or 1926.

I wouldn't be surprised, the Federal Reserve is and has been involved in a lot of backdoor politics and sponsored dozens of coups around the world, particularly in Latin America.

wow, henry ford? what the fvck is up with that? was henry ford a nazi???

He was a well known anti-semite. He published a lot of anti-Jewish literature as well. On the other hand, he was also opposed to war.

bottom line is, russia and england attacked germany together. in the end, germany was split amongst anglo and communist control (east, west germany). so on literal terms. they did side with russia.

Well, they did share a common enemy after 1941. Britain was opposed to Germany from the beginning, whereas Russia was not. While in the end they did fight towards the same goal, it's obviously a little more in depth than that. Stalin approached both Roosevelt and Churchill prior to the war even beginning, offering Russian assistance in order to take out Hitler, but both were wary of his motives and turned his offer down.

[CheGuevara]

I couldn't really tell you whether or not a lot Germans were racist before Hitler started his Jew propaganda. However, I can tell you that fascism relies a lot on using a scapegoat in order to push for change, in this case he used the Jews to cover up his imperial motives.

true. i think mein kampf being a best seller in germany somewhat proved germans were a little conservative prior to the hitler takeover. in hitler's 1933 chancellor speech, he ended the speech saying, "german people give me four years......... i did it not for reward, i did it becuase you yourselves wanted it so."

Hitler was also a great orator, if that's what you're referring to. His speeches drew people from all over Germany, even before he was elected.

that is precisely what i mean't. i've seen some of his speeches before and i all i could say was wow at the end of them. i think this helped camaflouge his devious plans. not to mention it was mostly goebbels who ranted on about jews. not actually hitler himself. i have yet to hear hitler speak about jews on a public scale with the exception of his book of course.

Really?

yes. many people forget germany had the same problems that for example albania has now. they were a little mad about their current borders because ethnic germany was bigger than what was currently germany at the time.

He was a well known anti-semite. He published a lot of anti-Jewish literature as well. On the other hand, he was also opposed to war.

wow, this comes as a bit of a shock to me. the more i look into this whole "jews run the world" conspiracy, the more it seems these people are pretty much hated by many people on practically every level of society.

Well, they did share a common enemy after 1941. Britain was opposed to Germany from the beginning, whereas Russia was not. While in the end they did fight towards the same goal, it's obviously a little more in depth than that. Stalin approached both Roosevelt and Churchill prior to the war even beginning, offering Russian assistance in order to take out Hitler, but both were wary of his motives and turned his offer down.

hitler was foolish in his attempt to takeover russia. he didn't think much of england's army (which he was right in downsizing, they weren't much of a threat). but still, he should have known opening a war on two sides would be lethal and very risky.

my main confusion is that i would have thought england and america would have teamed up with hitler in removing communist nations from the world. the only possible motive for england and america teaming up with russia is that they feared hitler and mussolini and realized that if russia was taken out the picture, hitler would have no trouble taking over the world.

[CheGuevara]

PS. the blonde haired, blue eyed myth... is it real or not? i've been trying to research hitler quote stating anything related to blonde haired people. so far, i've come up empty handed.

thewestside, feel free to discuss on this topic. tell us about how mussolini was the good guy during world war two because he was italian lol

[DutchGangster69]

fuck the nazis

[CheGuevara]

fu-- the nazis

lol, it's funny how the dutch are always the first to say that.