Egotistical wrote:Or maybe it was because you had nothing else to say. Look at your responses down low. Probably the worst responses you have made yet.
I've simply grown tired of going around and around in the same arguments with you.
Go on dictionary.com and type multiton. See what comes up you fcuking moron. The word does not exist. It was a typo.
You will see the word "multiton" in any number of law enforcement reports. Sometimes it's typed "multi-ton." Either way, it means multiple tons. And in this case, the report said Italian OC groups are involved in smuggling multions (multiple tons) of cocaine and marijuna into the U.S., which directly contradicts your cock and bull opinion that Italian groups were not significant smugglers anymore.
Okay so I got mixed up and crossed over LCN with IOC. Big deal. You have made mistakes just as big before.
I don't think so.
He said, "What we have here might be considered a sixth family." He never said what you are accusing him of saying. Typical dumb westside. The Albanians pushing aside the Italians in America does not stem from Rudaj. It stems from the Albanians presence overall. When you have Albanians rising through partnerships and making their own organizations and go against the Italians. Normal people would think that they are pushing them aside. Even Junior Gotti's bodyguard was Albanian. Top assassins for the LCN are Albanian. High level associates are Albanian. Then you have Albanian groups shutting down their operations and going against them. Something the Chinese, Russians and Blacks never did.
Holy shit. Is there no end you won't go to try and squirm your way out of a situation where you are clearly wrong? No matter what interpretation you want to give it, Snelling called the Rudaj organization a "sixth family." Simply by dubbing them that, he was making a comparison to the five New York LCN families. It was a bogus statement, then and now.
The Albanian's presence overall is still less than any number of other groups. Any of those groups deserved to be called a "sixth family" before the Rudaj organization. And don't give me your lousy excuse that it was because the Rudaj gang was organized like an LCN family. It wasn't. And you keep talking about Albanians "going against" the Italians as if it has happened over and over again. I'll ask you once again -
Other than the Rudaj gang, where in the U.S. has an Albanian group ever gone against an Italian crime family? Answer the question.
Either list some other examples or quit talking as if it has been a general trend. It happened one time and, from that instance alone, came the single CNN article that said Albanians were "pushing aside" the Italians.
All you can do is list some cases that don't even apply to the argument and don't prove your case. Gotti Junior had an Albanian bodyguard? So what? He has had lots of bodyguards over the years. How does that show Albanians are pushing aside the Mafia? Albanians work as assassins for the mob? So what? People from various ethnic groups do heavy work for the LCN? How does that prove that Albanians are pushing aside the Mafia? Some Albanians are high-level associates? So what? There are some, like Mustafa. But how does that prove that Albanians are pushing aside the Mafia?
IGNORING WHAT? OMG LOL! WHAT AM I IGNORING? Give me one source that says the Albanians are not the top organization in Europe. What we both have is information on both groups. We have statements, sources, credits, etc... on both groups but only one of us has an official document saying loud and clear. The Albanian mafia dominates Western Europe. And I think we know that the Albanians are more powerful in Eastern Europe then the Italians. So its only common sense that the Albanians surpass the Italians in Europe. I mean they control heroin. Come on, not to mention their roles in other fields such as prostitution, robberies, car thefts, arms trafficking and human trafficking and legal investments.
An official document loud and clear? You posted a photo of a magazine that cited a Belgian police report that made that claim.
You keep trying to put the burden of proof on me. If anything, the burden of proof is on you to prove the Albanians (in only a little over a decade) have surpassed both the Italians and the Russians to become the most powerful crime syndicate in Europe. The idea is laughable. It's simply an impossiblity and you only think so because you want it to be true because you are Albanian.
I'll say it one last time. All three groups - Italians, Russians, Albanians - operate throughout Europe. The Italians are the strongest in Western Europe. The Russians are the strongest in Eastern Europe. The Albanians are the strongest in the Balkan region.
I bring him up because you know that Denaro stangled his girlfriend but you cant tell me a single thing about Agim Gashi, Aldo Bare, Princ Dobroshi, Behgjet Pacolli, Daut Kadriovski, Naser Dzelijiji, Viktor Hoxha, etc... You cant tell me how the Albanian mafia is set up or operates. You cant tell me any specifics of the Albanian mafia. The only time I have ever heard you give specifics on the Albanian mafia is when you copy and paste what the FBI says about Albanian organized crime in America. Then you accuse me of your so called "tunnel vision".
Italian bosses are far more well known than Albanian bosses. It's like comparing Vincent Gigante or John Gotti to Alex Rudaj. I may not know many of the specifics about Albanians, but that doesn't matter. I know where Albanian organized crime stands, both in Europe and the U.S., and while they are major players they don't hold the position you give them in either area.