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Re: 2 Questions for Johnny (CheGuevara)

Postby Faciulina » August 13th, 2009, 8:22 am

the man below is a gypsi roma living in albania not an albanian-born
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Re: 2 Questions for Johnny (CheGuevara)

Postby Dobre » August 13th, 2009, 5:01 pm

Faciulina wrote:the man below is a gypsi roma living in albania not an albanian-born


Modern day Albanians are Gypsies with white flesh, that's it. They live like Gypsies and behave like Gypsies. That's why Albania is such a backwards country. If you were comparing precious gems, Albania would be a ruby while Macedonia would be a diamond. For a country on the adriatic, Albania is fucking backwards.

As for genetics, look at the Balkans historical peoples'. Thracians occupied most of modern day Bulgaria and parts of Romania. Dacians occupied most of Romania. Dorians(one of the four Ancient Greek tribes) occupied Chalkidiki. Macedonians occupied basically the Northern half of Greece. Modern day Albania is the Vlach homeland. Illiryans occupied everything from Epirus to Slovenia. Paeonians occupied most of Vardar Macedonia(Republic of Macedonia), northern parts of Ancient Macedonia and a small part of Western Bulgaria(Blagoevgrad province). Paeonians were a Thraco-Illiryan peoples.

Note that there is no such thing a Slav in the Balkans. There are only Slavicized natives from the Balkans. Everyone that wasn't native to the Balkans that came later and mixed with the local tribes cannot be called native. Hence, Macedonians in Vardar Macedonia are not Macedonian Slavs(which is a geographical term, hence a Slav on the territory of the Republic of Macedonia), but instead Paeonians(Thraco-Illiryans) who have mixed with Slavs amongst other tribes, including Ancient Macedonians.

Macedonians from Aegean Macedonia(Northern Greece) are the most 'Ancient Macedonian' because they are native, even though Slavicized. Secondly, waves of Slavs reached the southern Balkans, but not as much to Aegean Macedonia as to Vardar Macedonia, Serbia or Bulgaria. There are Macedonian-Bulgarians in Blagoevgrad(formerly called Gorna/Upper Dzhumaya) who come from Serres(aka Dolna/Lower Dzhumaya). Drama is about 30-50 km east of Serres, yet those people there are Aegean Macedonians for the most part, not Bulgarians. Most eastern Aegean Macedonian dialects are Bulgarian and thus people there would be considered more Bulgarian than Aegean Macedonian. My father's father, grandfather, is born and raised in Drama, as with his family.

Drama is as close to Ancient Macedonia as you can get. The only Serb blood I might get is from my mother's mother, and even then I came out of my father's testicles, I'm his creation, not a Serbian creation, because my grandma was born in Belgrade to a Macedonian father from Stip(my hometown here in Vardar Macedonia) and to a Czech mother. And even then I have no Serbian blood, unless you count those relatives I have in Vojvodina through my grandma.

Third, Vardar Macedonians both fear and loathe Aegean Macedonians today for historical reasons. When the Greek civil war started, alot of Aegean Macedonians flocked to Vardar Macedonia and Vardar Macedonians saw us as invaders and discriminated against us. My father was in tons of fights growing up over that reason, his whole childhood was basically trying to fit in and fighting with neighbourhood kids, so he grew up in a tough neighbourhood.

If you compare Macedonians to Albanians regionally...Vardar Macedonians would be like Albanians in Albania - standard and more civilized, but their manners and spitefulness is that of Kosovar Albanians, rough mannered, critical, judgemental and aggressively offensive and defensive. Aegean Macedonians would be like the Kosovar Albanians in terms of experiance --- they're the more militarized/paramilitary types out of the bunch since we live in a state that has attempted genocide and military action on us for over 100 years, so of course it will be like Palestinians in Israel or Kurds in Iraq or Turkey, but we're more calm, easy going, generally nicer and we don't try and think alot and attempt to beat everyone using brain power, we just enjoy life and because we're less spitful, we're more direct, also compare us to the Albanians in Epirus. Pirin Macedonians would be like the Albanians in Macedonia, the most mafiazed out of the bunch since they live in a region which basically puts everyone at danger, most drug seizures and mobsters flood that place. It's like a war zone compared to Sofia, Burgas, Varna etc. which mobsters totally control and live in their mafia paradise.

Fourth, Bulgarians were originally Huns, aka half Mongol(Chinese) half Turk. They are considered to be Tatars for one part, and that's a Turkic people. This is why the Bulgarian language sounds like they're mixing Macedonian and Arabic and their music is the most Middle Eastern. They are also cold and share some typical facial expressions or genetic/natural habits of some Chinese people, such as when they're serious they look around suspiciously in a dirty look manner. The only reason they turned white is wave after wave of this and that. Bulgars being a Hunnic peoples, came and mixed with the local tribe that inhabited that region - the Thracians. The Thracians have also mixed with the Ancient Macedonians. Bulgaria also has the most Turkish influence in terms of almost everything but they also have the most Russian alphabet. I can understand Russian for the most part if I read it for example thanks to the Bulgarian Cyrillic alphabet. Before that, I couldn't understand jack shit in Russian. I have Bulgarian to thank for that. Bulgarian and Macedonian are wayyy different in grammar, Bulgarian would sound like illiterate Macedonian. Note that every major war or revolution in history, Vardar Macedonians have fought alongside Bulgarians for unification yet Vardar Macedonians are currently the most hard headed and anti-Bulgarian for that same reason --- Bulgarians want Vardar Macedonia. Aegean Macedonians don't give a fuck about being a Macedonian, they'll do anything to survive. My sister and her brother in law just got their Bulgarian passports and they're not ashamed to say now we're b'lgari.

Fifth, Serbs were originally Scythians that mixed with Nordic and Slavic tribes.

Sixth, Vlachs(original Illiryans from modern day Albania) mixed with Slavs, Romans(Italians), Thracians(Bulgarian template) and Dorians(Greek tribe). They pretty much mixed with the Dacians to create the modern day Romanians.

Seventh, modern day Albanians are only a tiny part Illiryan. Speaking of Illiryan, Vlachs are more Illiryan than Albanians. Albanians are originally people from the Caucauses that mixed with people from the Middle East and came there, mixed with the Illiryans.

The Illiryan tribe that occupied Kosovo when the Chechens came was the Dardani.
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Re: 2 Questions for Johnny (CheGuevara)

Postby VostokSila » August 14th, 2009, 5:06 am

No nation from the North kavkaz came to the Balkan.. your story of alexander bringing them is not true because he didnt cross the border to go to the north kavkaz albanians are maybe related to turks or kurds, maybe irans that lived in the mountains in north iran, but they are not close to chechens.
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Re: 2 Questions for Johnny (CheGuevara)

Postby Dobre » August 14th, 2009, 8:17 am

VostokSila wrote:No nation from the North kavkaz came to the Balkan.. your story of alexander bringing them is not true because he didnt cross the border to go to the north kavkaz albanians are maybe related to turks or kurds, maybe irans that lived in the mountains in north iran, but they are not close to chechens.


As with the Balkan genetics in Southern Italy, there's tons of evidence --- both scientific and linguistic that links Chechens to Albanians.

Which one do you want me to present first?

I just think you don't want Albanians to be Chechen this way you can't relate yourself to Johnny. Don't worry, all white people originate from the same sess pool anyhow.
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Re: 2 Questions for Johnny (CheGuevara)

Postby VostokSila » August 15th, 2009, 9:05 am

there's tons of evidence --- both scientific and linguistic that links Chechens to Albanians.


The language is just a theory, it is not solid. The Albanians may be from the Kavkaz but they are not related to the Chechens who live in the North. Albanians may be some people from the south kavkaz that immigrate to the Blakan long ago, but like I said before there are many maaany nationalities and peoples living in the kavkaz, chosing Chechens because they are the most famous people there is just your ignorance talking.
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Re: 2 Questions for Johnny (CheGuevara)

Postby Dobre » August 15th, 2009, 1:22 pm

VostokSila wrote:
there's tons of evidence --- both scientific and linguistic that links Chechens to Albanians.


The language is just a theory, it is not solid. The Albanians may be from the Kavkaz but they are not related to the Chechens who live in the North. Albanians may be some people from the south kavkaz that immigrate to the Blakan long ago, but like I said before there are many maaany nationalities and peoples living in the kavkaz, chosing Chechens because they are the most famous people there is just your ignorance talking.


Yeah sure whatever if it makes you feel better, they aren't Chechens.
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Re: 2 Questions for Johnny (CheGuevara)

Postby CheGuevara » August 15th, 2009, 5:28 pm

VostokSila wrote:The language is just a theory, it is not solid. The Albanians may be from the Kavkaz but they are not related to the Chechens who live in the North. Albanians may be some people from the south kavkaz that immigrate to the Blakan long ago, but like I said before there are many maaany nationalities and peoples living in the kavkaz, chosing Chechens because they are the most famous people there is just your ignorance talking.


show me one single professor or actual credible source and not macedonia.eu or serbianna.org or kosovohere.org that states it is possible that albanians may have come to the kavkaz.

show me the similarities between the language of anyf of the kavkaz groups and the albanina language which every person who ever studied it stated it is a language onto itself. and you're wrong, the armenians are the most famous of the kazkav, nobody in america even knows what a chechen is. armenians live in america in big numbers and in some european nations as well so people know them much more.
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Re: 2 Questions for Johnny (CheGuevara)

Postby Dobre » August 15th, 2009, 7:25 pm

CheGuevara wrote:
VostokSila wrote:The language is just a theory, it is not solid. The Albanians may be from the Kavkaz but they are not related to the Chechens who live in the North. Albanians may be some people from the south kavkaz that immigrate to the Blakan long ago, but like I said before there are many maaany nationalities and peoples living in the kavkaz, chosing Chechens because they are the most famous people there is just your ignorance talking.


show me one single professor or actual credible source and not macedonia.eu or serbianna.org or kosovohere.org that states it is possible that albanians may have come to the kavkaz.

show me the similarities between the language of anyf of the kavkaz groups and the albanina language which every person who ever studied it stated it is a language onto itself. and you're wrong, the armenians are the most famous of the kazkav, nobody in america even knows what a chechen is. armenians live in america in big numbers and in some european nations as well so people know them much more.


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Re: 2 Questions for Johnny (CheGuevara)

Postby youngspade » March 12th, 2010, 9:15 pm

Dobre wrote:
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never has an ethnic group challenged the italian leadership in new york like alex rudaj did.


ahahahaha the irish in the past fought the italians seriously although they were massacred at least they proofed to do it rudaj is just a clown he had no balls to fight the mafia seriously or out of astoria just look at the westies they were 1000 times more violent than rudaj gang and albanian-chickenthieves-mob



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Ive been lowkey on this topic but this shit is funny!


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Re: 2 Questions for Johnny (CheGuevara)

Postby VsichkoEBosh » March 13th, 2010, 8:29 am

VostokSila wrote:No nation from the North kavkaz came to the Balkan.. your story of alexander bringing them is not true because he didnt cross the border to go to the north kavkaz albanians are maybe related to turks or kurds, maybe irans that lived in the mountains in north iran, but they are not close to chechens.


lol alexander made it to uzbekistan
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