Crips in the NETHERLANDS!!??

[MiChuhSuh]

Either say that to their face or don't say it at all. And I know you wouldn't ever say that to their face, so just shutup.

Thats not very nice now is it EndViolenceNOW.

Sorry, I apologize for that.

I am touched.

Hehe hey if I couldn't admit something, I could never be a man. Plus, if I didn't apologize for being hostile, my screenname would be mad hypocritical.

[Jota]

They are the fakest shit ive ever seen in my life with the New York Bloods and the South side paris crips 13. Is just phoney they are FAKE not a gang . How come in holland they gonna be crips that sounds a lie from the start . A group of african inmigrants caribbean surinam decide to copycat ruthlessly so they start wearing blue and after watching movies like " Colors " they decide to call themselves Rollin 30´s Crips right since they live in a neighbourhood with many african inmigrants they say this our Hood and one day they beat to jack him another african inmigrant that lives in another area of the city so this boy goes back to his neighbourhood tells his friends (african inmigrants too ) and they say how can they be Crips if they can be Crips we too, so they start wearing blue they watch a bit of " Colors too" to get the handsigns and they say we gonna be the Eight Tray Gangster Crips and this area is gonna be our Hood so they go back where theyre friend got beated dreesed in blue and they see this guys that did it , a fight starts one of the "83 gangster crips "
has a knife he stabs one of the guys in the heart and because of it dies the newspaper get interested in the story and the next day you see in capital letters GANG VIOLENCE IN HOLLAND ONE DEAD , and all of a sudden you got GANG WARFARE IN HOLLAND , eventhough they are only two groups of copycats and separated like 5 miles from each other they call it Violent gang city . But aint never an OG (Original Gangster ) from Eight Tray Gangster Crips ( South Central Los Angeles ) went to that holland city and decide to start them as members of Eight Tray Gangster Crips and teach them how the gang works and the rules .

I dont understand how a gang researcher Alonso gives them backup to the holland crips and talk like if they were real. I know they have appeared in books one i even read but its like i called it someone reads the newspaper and says now theyre crips there, the eight tray gangster crips dont have sets like in inland empire so like they gonna go to holland.

[Christina Marie]

Either say that to their face or don't say it at all. And I know you wouldn't ever say that to their face, so just shutup.

Thats not very nice now is it EndViolenceNOW.

Sorry, I apologize for that.

I am touched.

Hehe hey if I couldn't admit something, I could never be a man. Plus, if I didn't apologize for being hostile, my screenname would be mad hypocritical.

I wish more guys thought like this...more people in general! And very true @ the SN thing.

[MiChuhSuh]

They are the fakest shit ive ever seen in my life with the New York Bloods and the South side paris crips 13. Is just phoney they are FAKE not a gang . How come in holland they gonna be crips that sounds a lie from the start . A group of african inmigrants caribbean surinam decide to copycat ruthlessly so they start wearing blue and after watching movies like " Colors " they decide to call themselves Rollin 30´s Crips right since they live in a neighbourhood with many african inmigrants they say this our Hood and one day they beat to jack him another african inmigrant that lives in another area of the city so this boy goes back to his neighbourhood tells his friends (african inmigrants too ) and they say how can they be Crips if they can be Crips we too, so they start wearing blue they watch a bit of " Colors too" to get the handsigns and they say we gonna be the Eight Tray Gangster Crips and this area is gonna be our Hood so they go back where theyre friend got beated dreesed in blue and they see this guys that did it , a fight starts one of the "83 gangster crips "
has a knife he stabs one of the guys in the heart and because of it dies the newspaper get interested in the story and the next day you see in capital letters GANG VIOLENCE IN HOLLAND ONE DEAD , and all of a sudden you got GANG WARFARE IN HOLLAND , eventhough they are only two groups of copycats and separated like 5 miles from each other they call it Violent gang city . But aint never an OG (Original Gangster ) from Eight Tray Gangster Crips ( South Central Los Angeles ) went to that holland city and decide to start them as members of Eight Tray Gangster Crips and teach them how the gang works and the rules .

I dont understand how a gang researcher Alonso gives them backup to the holland crips and talk like if they were real. I know they have appeared in books one i even read but its like i called it someone reads the newspaper and says now theyre crips there, the eight tray gangster crips dont have sets like in inland empire so like they gonna go to holland.

Dawg, I never said Alonso called them "real", he just acknowledged they were there, and in many other places in the world. In the interview, after naming some places, he said he could tell whether or not the set was a copycat or if it was from an official set.

But he never says which sets he thinks are real and which sets he thinks are fake, which to me was a smart move to make (actually, it was a smart move to not make, which is just as important)

[A Ghost]

Being nuetral is very smart

[Rich_Rollin_loc]

This stuff is still funny loc's out there they have no purpose.

[kg_loco1]

[quote="Rich_Rollin_loc"]This stuff is still funny loc's out there they have no purpose.[/quote

thats hella ignorant cuzzin whats the purpose of locs throughout the country blacc is blacc pjs is pjs poverty is povertya hood is a hood i could understand your view if these cats is rich dudes claimin the fame but untill we C in holland or wherever aint no tellin

nine line four

[NeoTheXerox]

Everytime I see the same BS about gangs in other countries, because all americans think that the USA the only place is and the only rights has to started a gang or to be a gangmember, why.because the USA is a bigger country. A crip is a crip a blood is a blood no matter what country he or she cames from.

There are gangs every where from china to Zealand from Germany to UK. It is not a different if you are an American Crip or a Germany Crip or a Blood from China.

[A Ghost]

It is not a different if you are an American Crip or a Germany Crip or a Blood from China.

There is a huge difference. Bloods and Crips are in America were started in America because of American issues and problems.

American culture is completely different from all the other places in the world.

So if you have an American Counter-Culture going to different countries with different cultures it makes no sense.

There is NO reason for other countries to be banging Crips and Bloods.

And Americans need to stop this now. We need to stop the violence on our own soil before everthing gets out of control.

[NeoTheXerox]

It is not a different if you are an American Crip or a Germany Crip or a Blood from China.

There is NO reason for other countries to be banging Crips and Bloods.

And Americans need to stop this now. We need to stop the violence on our own soil before everthing gets out of control.

You mean there is no reason fo rother countries included america to be banging crips and bloods

[NeoTheXerox]

It is not a different if you are an American Crip or a Germany Crip or a Blood from China.

There is NO reason for other countries to be banging Crips and Bloods.

And Americans need to stop this now. We need to stop the violence on our own soil before everthing gets out of control.

You mean there is no reason for other countries included america to be banging crips and bloods

[Noog]

There have always been gangs in the UK, but always different than B's and C's. Prophecy - there will never be B's and C's in UK - they are culturally too different, as a poster said, they are American grown from and American culture. Copy-cat B's and C's wouldn't be tolerated here, even if a seed planted, it would get weeded out before it could grow. Thats not because some young people in UK inner cities dont 'aspire' to be like the American thing, but because of the clear visibility of the culture; colors, identifying tats, cloths etc. Street soldier style here could be worn by both gang member or everyday rudeboy, you cant tell by looking.

[NeoTheXerox]

There have always been gangs in the UK, but always different than B's and C's. Prophecy - there will never be B's and C's in UK - they are culturally too different, as a poster said, they are American grown from and American culture. Copy-cat B's and C's wouldn't be tolerated here, even if a seed planted, it would get weeded out before it could grow.

They are your words not mine That's the way you thinking
but that's Not the way we living!

[A Ghost]

You mean there is no reason for other countries included america to be banging crips and bloods

Yes that's what I meant. And I mean it triple for other countries.

[quote="NeoTheXerox']They are your words not mine That's the way you thinking
but that's Not the way we living![/quote]

How exactly are you living?

[Oaktown_G]

Even though crips arent living like we are supposed to that doesnt mean other countries should do like they c in LA. If you are from the netherlands what the hell is there a reason to c screamin crip.

[NeoTheXerox]

Even though crips arent living like we are supposed to that doesnt mean other countries should do like they c in LA. If you are from the netherlands what the hell is there a reason to c screamin crip.

The same as you!!!

[Noog]

Yea maybe...but there's no doubts that it comes across as fakey, get me - if C's and B's began cropping up in London say, they'd be laughed at, simple as that - peps wouldn't be laughing at the LA ting, 'cos thats real over there seen, but it would'nt be real in UK. And for that reason, it doesn'r come across as real in Netherlands.

I'm not saying that out there in Netherlands you ain't on it, but it's just that it's a borrowed culture, wheres the originality in that!

In London a kid from an NYC Blood set settled in Hackney after being deported from Rykers Island to UK - he said he wanted to turn local youths from gang culture in Hackney but he soon tried to set something up here and got sent to Brixton prison (he had little youths robbing for him, seen wearing red blah blah). The thing died straight out, simple as that.

Here in Hackney, East London there are too much crews -

A few examples out of too many to mention

London Fields Man Dem/Boyz (Fields/Haggerston Combined)

Holly Street Man Dem/Boyz

Mash Town

Love of Money

Pembury Man Dem/P-Block

Mothers Square Man Dem

Springfield Finest E5

LOS - Lords of Stoke N16

And a hunderd up and coming.....BUT NO COUSINS OF B'S OR C'S!

Its an original home grown ting!

[Q]

Even though crips arent living like we are supposed to that doesnt mean other countries should do like they c in LA. If you are from the netherlands what the hell is there a reason to c screamin crip.

wha set u from?

[A Ghost]

Damn, I forgot about this thread.....

[niro]

And a hunderd up and coming.....BUT NO COUSINS OF B'S OR C'S!

Its an original home grown ting!

yea f that stuff, we dnt need copycat gangs that kill over stupid stuff like bein blue or red.

and in netherlands whoever are crips there are jus wannabes, ppl from there tell me that anyone claimin they crip or blood are jus copycat wannabes

[dutch]

Yea maybe...but there's no doubts that it comes across as fakey, get me - if C's and B's began cropping up in London say, they'd be laughed at, simple as that - peps wouldn't be laughing at the LA ting, 'cos thats real over there seen, but it would'nt be real in UK. And for that reason, it doesn'r come across as real in Netherlands.

I'm not saying that out there in Netherlands you ain't on it, but it's just that it's a borrowed culture, wheres the originality in that!

You see the Hells Angels everywhere,everybody copycatted them.But everybody respect them and nobody is saying they are fake,in the UK or Holland.Why is it that with the crips everybody is saying stick to your own thing?Alonso already said it ones that in the ninetees Eight Tray Gangster Crips were arrested in Holland.And before everybody is saying crips from Holland aint the real deal.Well they are in Amsterdam,Rotterdam and The Haque.You can visit them and then we will see who's fake.In The Haque they own a bar/pub in the centrum of The Haque.

[dutch]

Here is a clip of them on youtube,the song that you hear is also from the crips.You see some footage of a documentaire of the Dutch t.v..

http://youtube.com/watchv=N_jYgnWqSK4

[Noog]

Hey Dutch, help needed - I got the link yo youtube but cant find the bits about NL Crips - the link wouldnt take me direct (page not displayed ting) so I went to the site but...anyhow, is there a easy way?

[dutch]

Hey Dutch, help needed - I got the link yo youtube but cant find the bits about NL Crips - the link wouldnt take me direct (page not displayed ting) so I went to the site but...anyhow, is there a easy way?

Go to Youtube,to the search button and look for Main Triad Crips.Let me know if you found it?

[Noog]

Yep, got there. Well the first thing to say is yeah, all looks the part, almost more Crip than Crip. I mean hell, the wardrobe man, thats a hell of a wardrobe. The thing is we all in Europe and in London, theres no colours, no dress style like that which looks like a finely turned out version of our Yanky cousins ting. On the surface of things, me being a Brit can't tell the difference between those peeps and the American thing.

Interesting. But theres things about it I dont get, so I've got questions -

Was the set started by an American moved to Holland?

Why did a Crip set begin in Holland? What was the motivation to begin there?

Were there Dutch groups/gangs which were a threat to pre-Crip Dutch in the Hague?

Who's the rivals?

Being so indentifiable, don't the cops come down on you all the time?

Ain't it being like walking targets for other non-coloured up crews who can melt away without standing out? Or is the blue for display and not for beef?

Its all very interesting but you gotta understand that interested peeps in the US are going to need some convincing, because naturally, its seen as thier baby get me.

I'm asking these questions because their is a perception that in NL, things aren't so hard for peeps - now I'm ready to learn the other side and want to hear your view - but we heard that NL has one of the best social security systems worldwide, that everybody gets access to decent housing and good support from the state when out of work. So its a suprise I guess. But I don't really get it, so please break it down?

[de_armada21]

well,i know that cripset exists,but except for internet and tv i have never heard about them doing anything.
I thought they started out as a hiphop group called something like "underground criminals".
They say its a philosphy of beeing a brotherhood.

i used to know another crip set,they just had that name and where a group of thugs.
they had many rivals,and few time i saw "redflagged" enemies,nothin really happened,
basicly these crip sets here are just criminals who name their group crip
not because of affiliation.

I dont thing the Haque crips got started by any official crip member.

In Holland gangsters/criminals dont where colours,just the few that copy USA gangs.
If you started walking with a flag,hardly anyone would take you seriues.
But ofcourse there is a chance the police would stop you over.
the blue is for display.

i guess they only had rivals when doing criminal activity,its not like in the USA you are sitting on your porch with a blue rag,and you get shot for nothing other then gangcolour.

Also they are the only ones that call out their crew's name,others dont want to be named.

There allot of poor people in Netherlands,the media just neglects them.
Many people who cant buy food,not even talking about buying clothes etc.
The taxes here are f==ked up,they work together with police and pull you over,or kick in peoples doors.
And im not talking about not paying your taxes for months,they screw you up as quick as they can.

[dutch]

Yep, got there. Well the first thing to say is yeah, all looks the part, almost more Crip than Crip. I mean hell, the wardrobe man, thats a hell of a wardrobe. The thing is we all in Europe and in London, theres no colours, no dress style like that which looks like a finely turned out version of our Yanky cousins ting. On the surface of things, me being a Brit can't tell the difference between those peeps and the American thing.

Interesting. But theres things about it I dont get, so I've got questions -

Was the set started by an American moved to Holland?

Why did a Crip set begin in Holland? What was the motivation to begin there?

Were there Dutch groups/gangs which were a threat to pre-Crip Dutch in the Hague?

Who's the rivals?

Being so indentifiable, don't the cops come down on you all the time?

Ain't it being like walking targets for other non-coloured up crews who can melt away without standing out? Or is the blue for display and not for beef?

Its all very interesting but you gotta understand that interested peeps in the US are going to need some convincing, because naturally, its seen as thier baby get me.

I'm asking these questions because their is a perception that in NL, things aren't so hard for peeps - now I'm ready to learn the other side and want to hear your view - but we heard that NL has one of the best social security systems worldwide, that everybody gets access to decent housing and good support from the state when out of work. So its a suprise I guess. But I don't really get it, so please break it down?

There was a member of the Main Triad Crips on this forum and he could have answer all your questions,but he isn't active on this forum no more.First i got to say i don't know MTC members.But i will answer your questions the best way i can.The founders of the MTC-set are Dutch/Suriname people.No Americans were involved,they do got connection with an American set.I think it was Rollin 40,but i am not sure.
On the motivation-thing i can not say,i don't know them.The biggest rivals are known criminals,MTC-members excell in rip-deals.Their biggest rivals are not Blood gangs or Crip gangs.They don't want that L.A. bulls.hit in Holland.Exterminating themselves.About the cops,they did get raided a couple of times.Because they posed for a Dutch magazine in Holland,all flamed up with guns and shit.But the Hells Angels can walk with there colours,so they can walk with there colours.For the other questions,i can't answer because i don't know them.I will try to contact MTC member who was on this forum.

[Noog]

A quick aside for you.....have a look at the youtube link above and search for Main Triad Crips..but instead of looking at the video, click on another film clip in the 'related' section called something like 'that fight' or something...and prepare to wet your pants.....hell, I almost pissed myself.....please don't tell me that was a real fight!! It had to be a staged thing because, well..have a look. Warning though, it will seriously improve your mood for the day! Fuccin hilarious! Makes you want to join in and knock em down one by one just because you could! Fantastic stuff!

[dutch]

Is it called gang fight.Cause when it is,this is part of a movie.Don't know the titel is though.I'll get back later for the titel.

[Noog]

I don't think you get what I'm saying - the video was the most pussio fight I've ever had the fortune to watch - it was pure pantomime but funny as hell

[NeoTheXerox]

Alonso already said it ones that in the ninetees Eight Tray Gangster Crips were arrested in Holland.

And that is right!!! A lot of people in the usa said that being a crip or being a blood only for america is, because the problems in the usa are not the same as Europe. That is BS, a lot of Americans are never been in Europe, so how can you say that Europe has not the same problems. Because they have!!!
MS13 gang is also in Spain. Gangs are all over the world. America is not the only country that has a reason to be in a gang. Holland has more problems than you think, you never been there before, only what you see is maybe on TV. About the video, it is still online at http://gangs.worlofmisery.com
Claiming blood or crips has a reason and everybody has his or her own reason. Not everybody is rich in Holland, not everybody has a home, not everybody has a job. There are a lot of people who lived on the streets of the Netherlands, Belguim or Spain or whatever. But you don't see that part of a thing, because that is Netherland, put that kind of problems far away from the reality.

[NeoTheXerox]

Fuck I forgot the d on the url
http://gangs.worldofmisery.com

sorry