1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby Faciulina » December 4th, 2008, 4:29 pm

Lool, holy shit the Camorra killed two Albanian immigrants in Caserta!? It never happened, there is no way that happened, the Albanians shit on Caserta you fcuking moron they dont care of Italian chicken thieves HAHAHAHAHAH. <------- Does that seem familiar to you Faciulina? Isnt Caserta in Southern Italy? Albanians literally pushed aside the entire Ndrangheta from prostitution in North Italy...

How have you proved anything? You never cited a source or anything. You just make stupid claims and then say, "I have proved it". The Russians supplying themselves is enough to place them ahead of the Italians on European heroin sales. The Turks have their own supplies and the Albanians surpass everyone.


ahahahahahah you deny even the REAL FACTS clown they were shot to death because they didn't pay protection idiot camorra shit on albaniass and kanunass that's corriere della sera news idiot not kosovo.here :D :D :D
italian mafia don't care of kanun they kill albanians like dogs when they want fucking idiot
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby AlbaniaUnited » December 4th, 2008, 4:37 pm

ahahahahahah you deny even the REAL FACTS clown they were shot to death because they didn't pay protection idiot camorra shit on albaniass and kanunass that's corriere della sera news idiot not kosovo.here :D :D :D
italian mafia don't care of kanun they kill albanians like dogs when they want #%@&#%@ idiot


Why shouldnt I deny real facts? You do, Rudaj beat the living hell out of made men in New York. He held up the Gambino boss with a gun. But you deny both of these because, "no way it cud hapen ahahahahahahahaha italians shit on kununass hahahahahahahahahahah italians control 800% of heroin hahahahaahahahah I PROVED IT".

The only thing you have proved it that you are an idiot. The Albanians removed Ndrangheta from the prostitution in North Italy, it was said by Cotaldo Motta, Italy's top prosecutor.

In this article, no names were mentioned or anything. So either you admit that Rudaj beat up made men and held up the Gambino boss with a gun or I wont acknowledge the fact that two Albanian immigrants were killed in South Italy.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby AlbaniaUnited » December 4th, 2008, 4:40 pm

VostokSila wrote: I am not even going to comment on the rest of the BS you wrote in your reply.


I dont think Faciulina should be replied to at all. But its hard sometimes because of the stupid shit he says. He thinks the Italian mafia controls even the Coca production in Colombia.

Whats even funnier is westside, who claims himself to be unbiased and the smartest person here, says Faciulina is more rational and logical then me.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby Faciulina » December 4th, 2008, 4:45 pm

The only thing you have proved it that you are an idiot. The Albanians removed Ndrangheta from the prostitution in North Italy, it was said by Cotaldo Motta, Italy's top prosecutor.


that's bs and you know it the romanians kick you ass of prostitution in milan ahahahahahaha you are chickenthieves more than romanians :D :D :D

In this article, no names were mentioned or anything. So either you admit that Rudaj beat up made men and held up the Gambino boss with a gun or I wont acknowledge the fact that two Albanian immigrants were killed in South Italy.


i don't know where they were killed but the gun used by camorra to kill other men kill them so you just should make the facts 2 albanians was gunned down by camorra ahahahaha i've never heard of any italian killed by albanians so far so shut up your fucking mouth moron and just admit that italian mafia shit on your kanunass and albaniass
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby thewestside » December 4th, 2008, 4:45 pm

AlbaniaUnited wrote:Whats even funnier is westside, who claims himself to be unbiased and the smartest person here, says Faciulina is more rational and logical then me.


Still putting words in my mouth I see. I never said Faciulina is "more rational and logical" than you. Faciulina is not logical or rational at all. But as bad as he is, you are even worse. What does it matter which one of you is the #1 biggest bullshitter on this board and which is #2. You both have no credibility.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby AlbaniaUnited » December 4th, 2008, 4:58 pm

Still putting words in my mouth I see. I never said Faciulina is "more rational and logical" than you. Faciulina is not logical or rational at all. But as bad as he is, you are even worse. What does it matter which one of you is the #1 biggest bullshitter on this board and which is #2. You both have no credibility.


The number one bullshitter on here is you. Your a loner 30 year old who gets off coming on here running your mouth. I can imagine you right now. Your pathetic as a person and pathetic as a person. A total nobody, you have amounted to shit.

In what way am I worse then Faciulina? Compare one of my statements to his...

Faciulina: Albanians control 10% of heroin and the Ndrangheta has strong bases in Afghanistan, they even took away Coca production from the Colombians. Those were his exact words. Now compare one of my statements to that.


Public BULLSHITTER number one: thewestside.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby VostokSila » December 4th, 2008, 5:04 pm

I am fully aware of the drugs for guns deal the Russians had with the Colombians. It wasent something historical, it wasent a multi-hundred million dollar deals going down. Colombians get more arms from the Italians then the Russians.


Colombians get more arms from italians that Russians? Are you becoming Fuciliana number 2? The Russians could have more connection to cocaine than Albanians.

http://www.mamacoca.org/feb2002/art_bag ... me_en.html

I am sorry if the source is a little off date, as I am not too good with finding internet srouces.

Still, having a high percentage of heroin users is bad. You were gloating about it like Russians being heroin users is a good thing.


lol had to look up 'gloating'. lol again, u misunderstood me and jump to comclusions. I stated facts, do you know how I feel of them? so far it is you who is proud of your nations scums and criminals are you not? never once have I said or hinted that I like the fact Russia has a high heroin using percent.

Like I said, if Albania did have a coke or heroin problem. I would very well know about it. I spend alot of time there, I have never heard of even a mention of coke or heroin use in Albania. Not from any family members or friends and people I have come in contact with.


When in Russia, neither have I heard of any coke or heroin use from any of my family or friends or anyone I spoke to.

You makr it seem like Russians were killing every single dealer, they threatened most of them and they left. On occasion, they killed some of them


From what I read and heard from 'thewestside', that exactly is pretty much what happend. They did infact kill off majority of dealers there in public killings and the rest just got scared and left.

As for the Albanians getting beat up in the Bronx. That is a complete lie, you know it as well as I do.


No.. actualy I dont. Before you showed up here, I remember a discussion with some Albanians in it. They was talking of ABI ABI.. and that ABI is not what it was and is now a shame to Albanians, that Albanians are not the same ones who got to NY in 97' and shit.

Italian lapdogs? Albanians were in small numbers back then in the United States. They couldnt band together to the degree they do now. Even though some did, Ismail Lika. Why did you call Ismail Lika one man? He had his own organization, he was arrested alongside other members. The authorities claimed that Ismail Lika brought in $125 million worth of heroin during the time period of the investigation on him. He was probably the most wild gangster in New York. When he was in jail, he was seen frequently walking around naked. They called him the "three legged man". Albanians have always been feared in organized crime, even when we were not in numbers.


lol that is not what I hear from everyone else here. Everyone else say that they are not who you say they are (besides Fucilina who's words are pure sh*t).

Doing work for the Italians back then or even now does not mean you are their lapdog, like I said, we did it for money. If they forced us to work for them, which they didnt


But they did, the case of Ismail Lika is 1 case back then. There are also cases with Russians who did not pay the italians aswell, similar to Lika. Unfortunatly I dont know exact details of American Russian crime, just ask thewestside, he will give you some names.



So in that case, Mexicans should be under Italian organized crime... I mean Italian is very similar to the Spanish language.


Are you pretending to be stupid or what? No.. Russian and Ukranin are more similar to eachother than Spanish and Italian, not to mention that both are pretty much the same race (east slavic). Its like me telling you of your people, as hard as it may come to you, I know about my people more than you :S

No, Bulgarians would go to Albanians because the Albanian mafia could cut them a better deal then the Russians or even Turks for that matter. The Albanians heroin base in Turkey is very powerful. There are 1,300,000 Albanians in Turkey and Ankara and Istanbul is a strong point for the Albanian mafia. So it comes down to why would they buy from the Russians when they could buy from the people flooding Europe? I mean, who would have a better quality and price? A person who has 3 tonnes or a person who has 300 kilos? Anyway the only reason you pick to fight about this is because Razbojnik posted how profitable Bulgaria is on the heroin map. The fact still remains, The Russians would have to drive between three countries to get there. The Albanians are already moving back and forth between there. Why would we leave you guys to have Bulgaria


lol if you try to say that Albanians control Bulgaria then you have no more credibility than Faculiana. lol Albanians dont have more heroin than Russians, period. lol I didnt even know about this post you talk of.. where is it lol?? drive between countries? lol let me ask you.. do Albanians drive?? lol Russians would just take a private flight to Bulgaria XD. You are downsizing your own criminal groups who you say you appreciate. Leave us? its not "us" I am not a Russian mafia member, unlike you who apparently is an Albanian "gangster". Albanians are not a match for Russians, especialy in Eastern Europe, even you said that Russians have control of the east.

The Italian mafia is active in the heroin market although they take a back seat to the Albanians, Turks and Soviets.


Here I have to agree with you.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby Faciulina » December 4th, 2008, 5:23 pm

In what way am I worse then Faciulina? Compare one of my statements to his...


ahahahahaha you are the number 1 BULLSHITTER here you even said AL CAPONE is albanian :D :D :D you also said calabrians and turkish have all albanian origins and there are 1.300.000 albanians in turkey you are full of shit and your credibility is -50
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby thewestside » December 4th, 2008, 6:22 pm

AlbaniaUnited wrote:The number one bullshitter on here is you. Your a loner 30 year old who gets off coming on here running your mouth. I can imagine you right now. Your pathetic as a person and pathetic as a person. A total nobody, you have amounted to shit.


I gave you a list of 15 people here who think you are full of shit most of the time. You have a reputation for being the #1 bullshitter on this board, both as JohnnyRed and as AlbaniaUnited. You know this but are too gutless to ackowledge it. A number of people have even said you should be banned. Try and turn it around all you want. It won't work. Between the two of us, you are the one with no credibility. You still can't name even one person that agrees with your claims of Albanian organized crime.

In what way am I worse then Faciulina? Compare one of my statements to his...

Faciulina: Albanians control 10% of heroin and the Ndrangheta has strong bases in Afghanistan, they even took away Coca production from the Colombians. Those were his exact words. Now compare one of my statements to that.


You know that if I were to go through your 500+ posts I could find numerous riduclous comments that you have made. But if I were to do so, and list them, you wouldn't acknowledge them or admit you were wrong.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby AlbaniaUnited » December 4th, 2008, 6:24 pm

Colombians get more arms from italians that Russians? Are you becoming Fuciliana number 2? The Russians could have more connection to cocaine than Albanians.

http://www.mamacoca.org/feb2002/art_bag ... me_en.html

I am sorry if the source is a little off date, as I am not too good with finding internet srouces.


Okay I'll let everything you say in this post slide since we seem to be both confused about on what terms we are on lol.

Anyway, I dont know who sells more arms to the Colombians, my guess is that the Italians do because they have closer relationships to the Colombians.

As for the Russians have more connection to cocaine then the Albanians, that is just not true. Did you see the source I put up for the Albanian-Colombian connection? Frederik Durda had enough connection to bring over 4 tonnes of cocaine over to Europe at one time. Another incident followed the arrest of 12 people of Albanian, Italian and Colombian descent for 12 tonnes of cocaine coming into Europe via Albania. Although I am aware of the Russian-South American connection, I would not rate it higher then the ones that we have. Albanian gangsters and been photgraphed and reported in Colombia and Venzuela frequently. I have never heard of a single incident when Russians have brough over 12 tonnes of cocaine from Colombia to Europe. The Albanian mafia even borrowed some of their Colombian friends to being over to Albania to see if cocaine will grow there.

lol had to look up 'gloating'. lol again, u misunderstood me and jump to comclusions. I stated facts, do you know how I feel of them? so far it is you who is proud of your nations scums and criminals are you not? never once have I said or hinted that I like the fact Russia has a high heroin using percent.


I am sure you are not proud of Russians being heroin users but you sounded like you were. You kept repeating it. I am proud of those scum because I dont consider them scum lol.

When in Russia, neither have I heard of any coke or heroin use from any of my family or friends or anyone I spoke to.


Neither have I. Are you sure your not talking about Kazakhstan, I hear they consume it there like water. But anyway Albania is smaller, and if Albania has a visible problem with coke or heroin use, I would know about it, I would have heard at least one time from my aunt, be careful out there, people are on drugs here lol. I hear that here but never when I go there.

From what I read and heard from 'thewestside', that exactly is pretty much what happend. They did infact kill off majority of dealers there in public killings and the rest just got scared and left.


It could have happened like that, I just dont know why the Russians would pay the Italians a tax, not trying to offend you but I truely do wonder at times... Italians are such bitches in my eyes and Russians in that period of time were made out to be gun wielding lunatics, have you seen... "we own the night"?

No.. actualy I dont. Before you showed up here, I remember a discussion with some Albanians in it. They was talking of ABI ABI.. and that ABI is not what it was and is now a shame to Albanians, that Albanians are not the same ones who got to NY in 97' and shit.


Yeah even I will tell you that, The ABI now is a joke, all the people who started and represented that are grown up and have moved on now. Back then it was talk shit and die, now the ABI is just a memory, alot of these young Albanians represent now to be cool. Its not that the Albanians repping it now are bitches, its just that Albanians now are fascinated and look up to the people who started it in the first place, because it was actually a gang back then, they were killing people, taking black kids and spraying them white. Now things have calmed down, mainly because these blacks and Latinos have gotten the point. The Albanian who created the gang from the very begginning is in jail now for stabbing a Serb.

However Albanians in general are still the same, still wild and still not giving a fcuk.

lol that is not what I hear from everyone else here. Everyone else say that they are not who you say they are (besides Fucilina who's words are pure sh*t).


Lol whose everyone? Dont look at the words of everyone, read about them. This is what I mean by its confusing to talk to you, you are two different people on the PM and on here. I dont understand why that is.

But they did, the case of Ismail Lika is 1 case back then. There are also cases with Russians who did not pay the italians aswell, similar to Lika. Unfortunatly I dont know exact details of American Russian crime, just ask thewestside, he will give you some names.


Okay but no Albanian gangster, Lika or anyone else paid the Italians a tax to operate. Yes many Albanians did work doing the LCN's dirty work but they got paid for that. They werent doing it for free otherwise they wouldnt do it. There hasent been one count since the 1970's until now of an Albanian gangster paying the LCN to operate.

Are you pretending to be stupid or what? No.. Russian and Ukranin are more similar to eachother than Spanish and Italian, not to mention that both are pretty much the same race (east slavic). Its like me telling you of your people, as hard as it may come to you, I know about my people more than you :S


Okay but Spanish and Italian language are pretty similar. Ukraines tell me they are nothing like Russians down here, that is why I even made a debate about this. They might be, but they dont consider themselves Russian or apart of Russian organized crime.

lol if you try to say that Albanians control Bulgaria then you have no more credibility than Faculiana. lol Albanians dont have more heroin than Russians, period. lol I didnt even know about this post you talk of.. where is it lol?? drive between countries? lol let me ask you.. do Albanians drive?? lol Russians would just take a private flight to Bulgaria XD. You are downsizing your own criminal groups who you say you appreciate. Leave us? its not "us" I am not a Russian mafia member, unlike you who apparently is an Albanian "gangster". Albanians are not a match for Russians, especialy in Eastern Europe, even you said that Russians have control of the east.


Like I said you choose to have your own thoughts and opinion. But the Albanians who are taking 80% of all grams of heroin and bringing it to Albania to be brought to Western Europe go through Bugaria. Now, you think that the Albanian mafia wont stop by and sell them heroin while they are there? This is what I argue. The Turks have more access and control over heroin then the Russians. But the Turks cant even hold 15% of the heroin trade in Greece [a country they are right next to] because the Albanians control so much. You guys might be involved in everything in Bulgaria, to a bigger extent then the Albanians. But not in heroin.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby AlbaniaUnited » December 4th, 2008, 6:28 pm

You know that if I were to go through your 500+ posts I could find numerous riduclous comments that you have made. But if I were to do so, and list them, you wouldn't acknowledge them or admit you were wrong.



Well its your burden to prove it, you are accusing me of saying stupid things, so prove it. You cant. Every "hype, BS comment, boost, boast, brag" I have made came from a source.

I quote Cotaldo Motta WHO KNOWS SO MUCH MORE THEN YOU IN ORGANIZED CRIME IN ITALY and you call me a bullshiter for quoting him. Then you want credit?

What names? You just posted the names of all the posters on this forum. Most of them have never even talked to me, but you claim they dont agree with my views. What the fuck are my views? I have no views, I simply state what I read. Cotaldo Motta says the Albanian mafia took over on both sides of the Adriatic so I believe him.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby Faciulina » December 4th, 2008, 6:43 pm

What names? You just posted the names of all the posters on this forum. Most of them have never even talked to me, but you claim they dont agree with my views. What the fu-- are my views? I have no views, I simply state what I read. Cotaldo Motta says the Albanian mafia took over on both sides of the Adriatic so I believe him.


ahahahahaha thats' BS of kosovo.here motta never said that your nationalist site changed what he really said moron, anyway he told this in 1998 it's 2008 now and albanians are not what they used to be in the 90s even romanians are going to replce them... anyway believe what you want they are just words, the 2 albanians shot to death by camorra are not words
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby razbojnik » December 10th, 2008, 10:28 am

AlbaniaUnited wrote:Yes I heard you, Macedonians > Albanians, anytime, anywhere. You guys are such fierce warriors though. We dont really want to mess with you. I mean it was the Macedonians that caused the most problems in the Ottoman Empire. The Ottomans spent more time fighting Albanians then any other race. Before they took over, it took them over 50 years to conquer Albania. Macedonians, Greeks and Serbs just fell down like Dominoes to the Ottomans. And even when they did conquer Albania. They still created the most problems for the Ottomans. But then again, Macedonians, Albanians, anytime, anywhere. The Albanians are terrified already.


LOL? Albanians sold out to the Turks the moment the Turks invaded the Balkans. That's how you're Muslims now when before 500 years you were Eastern Orthodox Christians.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby razbojnik » December 10th, 2008, 10:28 am

If anything, the Albanians sold out to the Turks in order not to be slaughtered like everyone else.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby VostokSila » December 10th, 2008, 11:55 am

As for the Russians have more connection to cocaine then the Albanians, that is just not true. Did you see the source I put up for the Albanian-Colombian connection? Frederik Durda had enough connection to bring over 4 tonnes of cocaine over to Europe at one time. Another incident followed the arrest of 12 people of Albanian, Italian and Colombian descent for 12 tonnes of cocaine coming into Europe via Albania. Although I am aware of the Russian-South American connection, I would not rate it higher then the ones that we have. Albanian gangsters and been photgraphed and reported in Colombia and Venzuela frequently. I have never heard of a single incident when Russians have brough over 12 tonnes of cocaine from Colombia to Europe. The Albanian mafia even borrowed some of their Colombian friends to being over to Albania to see if cocaine will grow there.


lol I believe that in the source I brought to you just now, it sais of US custom or something catching a fishing boat with 1 Russian and 1 Ukranian with 21 or 20 tones of Cocaine. What is your point? Russians can pretty much fly cocaine into Russia from Columbia, if u know the right ppl you have no problems getting cocaine inside Russia.

Neither have I. Are you sure your not talking about Kazakhstan, I hear they consume it there like water. But anyway Albania is smaller, and if Albania has a visible problem with coke or heroin use, I would know about it, I would have heard at least one time from my aunt, be careful out there, people are on drugs here lol. I hear that here but never when I go there.


lol yea, I am sure.

It could have happened like that, I just dont know why the Russians would pay the Italians a tax, not trying to offend you but I truely do wonder at times... Italians are such women in my eyes and Russians in that period of time were made out to be gun wielding lunatics, have you seen... "we own the night"?


Again, from things I recently read on the internet of Russians in the US, like 'thewestside' said and like I said before, there is a difference between Russians in the 70's and Russians in the 90's. No I have not seen it, is it good?

1970's until now of an Albanian gangster paying the LCN to operate.


I dont know about that..

Okay but Spanish and Italian language are pretty similar. Ukraines tell me they are nothing like Russians down here, that is why I even made a debate about this. They might be, but they dont consider themselves Russian or apart of Russian organized crime.


lol stop comparing other coltures to my colture. Didn't you say that Ukraines in US are pussies that can't speak a word in Russian/Ukranian? so you listen to these people?
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby AlbaniaUnited » December 10th, 2008, 12:20 pm

Faciulina wrote:
What names? You just posted the names of all the posters on this forum. Most of them have never even talked to me, but you claim they dont agree with my views. What the fu-- are my views? I have no views, I simply state what I read. Cotaldo Motta says the Albanian mafia took over on both sides of the Adriatic so I believe him.


ahahahahaha thats' BS of kosovo.here motta never said that your nationalist site changed what he really said moron, anyway he told this in 1998 it's 2008 now and albanians are not what they used to be in the 90s even romanians are going to replce them... anyway believe what you want they are just words, the 2 albanians shot to death by camorra are not words


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/863620.stm

Here is my source for what I said. As you can see, BBC has nothing to do with nationalism or anything. So suck it moron.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby AlbaniaUnited » December 10th, 2008, 12:25 pm

LOL? Albanians sold out to the Turks the moment the Turks invaded the Balkans. That's how you're Muslims now when before 500 years you were Eastern Orthodox Christians.



The Ottomans invaded the Balkans and slaughtered everyone in its sight. The Greeks, Macedonians, Serbians, etc... all fell like dominoes. Skenderbeu [Genereal in the Ottoman Empire who was compared to Alexander the great in military conquest] sold out the Ottomans and returned to Albania before the Ottomans could reach Albania. He united all Albanian people, tribes and lands and fought the Ottomans. The Ottomans were defeated in every battle except one [but there was like 23 of them]. Skenderbeu died and the revolt still carried on for about 12 years after he died. The Ottomans finally succeeded in deafeating a nation one tenth the size of its own.

Even under Ottoman rule, the Albanians were notorious for not paying imperial taxes or obiding by the law [much like today :D].

Macedonians fell like women. So did the Serbs and Greeks. Then you guys have the nerve to call yourself warriors. HA!
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby AlbaniaUnited » December 10th, 2008, 1:02 pm

lol I believe that in the source I brought to you just now, it sais of US custom or something catching a fishing boat with 1 Russian and 1 Ukranian with 21 or 20 tones of Cocaine. What is your point? Russians can pretty much fly cocaine into Russia from Columbia, if u know the right ppl you have no problems getting cocaine inside Russia.


LOL! Calm down bro, it was 12 tonnes of cocaine and it was not a fishing boat. Didnt you read it? It was the largest drug bust in U.S. Maritime history.

Yes, I know that big time Russian bosses would probably have no trouble getting it in Russia if they had the right government connections in Russia and the right connections in Colombia.

But the fact still remains, the Balkan route is still a more noticable route for cocaine entering Europe. Albania is totally lawless, even if they find cocaine in a ship on the Albanian port, the gangsters who brought it in will tell the police to go fuck themselves like that one time when they held the Vlora police chief hostage until the Italian government sent back their drug boats that they intercepted. They sent them back afterwards and the police chief was let go.

It wasent just Frederik Durda who had connections. Frederik was seen at cocaine ranches belonging to the most powerful Colombian drug lords, he was seen in helicopters and on prize horses on these ranches. He alleged promised the Colombians he would manage thousands of kilos a month for them entering Europe. Aldo Bare was another crime figure. I read all about his organization in the Albanian newspaper, Interpol captured one of his liutenants last summer. He was in charge of bringing in serious weight of cocaine also. The 12 tonnes of cocaine from Albania was another incident, the 400 kilos of cocaine that came in Macedonia through a front company called "MACfoods" was just another incident. The Fact that Belgian authorities said Albanians lead the trade in cocaine sales around here.

No one doubted that Russians dont have connections to South America... but their connection hasent been made as visible as the connection the Albanians have is all I am saying.

Neither have I. Are you sure your not talking about Kazakhstan, I hear they consume it there like water. But anyway Albania is smaller, and if Albania has a visible problem with coke or heroin use, I would know about it, I would have heard at least one time from my aunt, be careful out there, people are on drugs here lol. I hear that here but never when I go there.


lol yea, I am sure.

Again, from things I recently read on the internet of Russians in the US, like 'thewestside' said and like I said before, there is a difference between Russians in the 70's and Russians in the 90's. No I have not seen it, is it good?


Whats the difference? Werent Russians crazier in the 70s? Yeah it is a good movie. Basically its about a Russian crew who developed a new way in sneaking heroin into the United States. One of their leaders gets caught with drugs on him but escapes prison and starts killing cops left and right. He keeps going on through out the movie about how much "muscle" they have for their operation. Their whole objective is to push out the Italians from the heroin trade and establish themselves and their partners [Albanians] as new leaders of the heroin trade in America. In the end, the Albanians and Russians meet together but the entire NYPD is there and break it up, everyone goes to jail and Vadim [Russian gangster] gets killed by the son of the cop he killed earlier. Its a good movie. You should watch it. The movie takes place in 1988.

1970's until now of an Albanian gangster paying the LCN to operate.


I dont know about that..[/quote]

Of course you do. If there was any evidence of Albanian gangsters paying tribute to the LCN at any point of time, we would have heard about. The Albanians did work for them, but there hasent been a case where they paid them tribute.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby Faciulina » December 10th, 2008, 1:26 pm

Here is my source for what I said. As you can see, BBC has nothing to do with nationalism or anything. So suck it moron.


ahahahahahaha in fact this article says than albania is a point of reference for criminal activities loooooool motta never said albanians took over prostitution by ndrangheta first because ndrangheta NEVER controlled it they are serious people not chickenthieves :D :D
second because the influence of the ndrangheta in milan and the whole north italy is HUGE and you can't even imagine it... this is a map of mafia influence in milan city done by codici association in 2007 green is ndrangheta red sicilian mafia yellow camorra and blue foreign gangsahahahahaha albanians have he same influence of roma gypsies looooooooooooooool don't tell me they are nationalist because i just laugh northen italians hate southern italians more than foreign immigrants...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2207/180 ... 2baf_o.jpg

http://www.codici.org/lotta_alla_criminalita.html
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby AlbaniaUnited » December 10th, 2008, 1:48 pm

Faciulina wrote:
Here is my source for what I said. As you can see, BBC has nothing to do with nationalism or anything. So suck it moron.


ahahahahahaha in fact this article says than albania is a point of reference for criminal activities loooooool motta never said albanians took over prostitution by ndrangheta first because ndrangheta NEVER controlled it they are serious people not chickenthieves :D :D
second because the influence of the ndrangheta in milan and the whole north italy is HUGE and you can't even imagine it... this is a map of mafia influence in milan city done by codici association in 2007 green is ndrangheta red sicilian mafia yellow camorra and blue foreign gangsahahahahaha albanians have he same influence of roma gypsies looooooooooooooool don't tell me they are nationalist because i just laugh northen italians hate southern italians more than foreign immigrants...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2207/180 ... 2baf_o.jpg

http://www.codici.org/lotta_alla_criminalita.html



WOW! I never seen this, this is amazing, The Albanian mafia is small man! Holy shit, I thought it was big and stuff but look, they barely control any areas... Maybe the Ndrangheta does tax Albanian gangsters in Tirana...
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby AlbaniaUnited » December 10th, 2008, 1:49 pm

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby Faciulina » December 10th, 2008, 2:00 pm

WOW! I never seen this, this is amazing, The Albanian mafia is small man! Holy shit, I thought it was big and stuff but look, they barely control any areas... Maybe the Ndrangheta does tax Albanian gangsters in Tirana...


who could think that the ndrangheta can match albanian pimps lords in milan, of course the albanian pimps lords can take over the ndrangheta in milan they are soooooo stron and violent and rich looooooooooooooool :D :D :D
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby VostokSila » December 10th, 2008, 2:17 pm

Whats the difference? Werent Russians crazier in the 70s?


lol no.. and thanks for ruining the end of the movie for me :D
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby AlbaniaUnited » December 10th, 2008, 6:07 pm

VostokSila wrote:
Whats the difference? Werent Russians crazier in the 70s?


lol no.. and thanks for ruining the end of the movie for me :D



Haha, anytime... so what, Russian gangsters were crazier in the 1990s?
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Postby AlbaniaUnited » December 10th, 2008, 6:07 pm

Faciulina wrote:
WOW! I never seen this, this is amazing, The Albanian mafia is small man! Holy shit, I thought it was big and stuff but look, they barely control any areas... Maybe the Ndrangheta does tax Albanian gangsters in Tirana...


who could think that the ndrangheta can match albanian pimps lords in milan, of course the albanian pimps lords can take over the ndrangheta in milan they are soooooo stron and violent and rich looooooooooooooool :D :D :D



Now your getting it.
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Postby Faciulina » December 10th, 2008, 8:19 pm

yeah i'm getting you are an idiot :D :D :D
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby razbojnik » December 11th, 2008, 9:30 am

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LOL? Albanians sold out to the Turks the moment the Turks invaded the Balkans. That's how you're Muslims now when before 500 years you were Eastern Orthodox Christians.



The Ottomans invaded the Balkans and slaughtered everyone in its sight. The Greeks, Macedonians, Serbians, etc... all fell like dominoes. Skenderbeu [Genereal in the Ottoman Empire who was compared to Alexander the great in military conquest] sold out the Ottomans and returned to Albania before the Ottomans could reach Albania. He united all Albanian people, tribes and lands and fought the Ottomans. The Ottomans were defeated in every battle except one [but there was like 23 of them]. Skenderbeu died and the revolt still carried on for about 12 years after he died. The Ottomans finally succeeded in deafeating a nation one tenth the size of its own.

Even under Ottoman rule, the Albanians were notorious for not paying imperial taxes or obiding by the law [much like today :D].

Macedonians fell like women. So did the Serbs and Greeks. Then you guys have the nerve to call yourself warriors. HA!


Albanians were criminals back then and they are criminals now, you happy? That still doesn't change the fact you were the Turk's servants while everyone else fought them.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby razbojnik » December 11th, 2008, 9:35 am

Faciulina wrote:yeah i'm getting you are an idiot :D :D :D


That's nothing new and nothing to think about really, it's obvious from the second you meet a child like him.
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Postby razbojnik » December 11th, 2008, 9:35 am

Faciulina wrote:yeah i'm getting you are an idiot :D :D :D


That's nothing new and nothing to think about really, it's obvious from the second you meet a child like him.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby AlbaniaUnited » December 11th, 2008, 11:55 am

razbojnik wrote:
AlbaniaUnited wrote:
LOL? Albanians sold out to the Turks the moment the Turks invaded the Balkans. That's how you're Muslims now when before 500 years you were Eastern Orthodox Christians.



The Ottomans invaded the Balkans and slaughtered everyone in its sight. The Greeks, Macedonians, Serbians, etc... all fell like dominoes. Skenderbeu [Genereal in the Ottoman Empire who was compared to Alexander the great in military conquest] sold out the Ottomans and returned to Albania before the Ottomans could reach Albania. He united all Albanian people, tribes and lands and fought the Ottomans. The Ottomans were defeated in every battle except one [but there was like 23 of them]. Skenderbeu died and the revolt still carried on for about 12 years after he died. The Ottomans finally succeeded in deafeating a nation one tenth the size of its own.

Even under Ottoman rule, the Albanians were notorious for not paying imperial taxes or obiding by the law [much like today :D].

Macedonians fell like women. So did the Serbs and Greeks. Then you guys have the nerve to call yourself warriors. HA!


Albanians were criminals back then and they are criminals now, you happy? That still doesn't change the fact you were the Turk's servants while everyone else fought them.



Turks servants? Albanian lead the strongest revolt against the Ottomans, so where does the servant part come from? Even when they conquered all of the Balkans, Albanians were notorious for not paying the Ottomans imperial taxes. Macedonians didnt even put up a serious fight, its embarassing to be called Macedonian.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby VostokSila » December 11th, 2008, 12:03 pm

so what, Russian gangsters were crazier in the 1990s?


You can say that.. yea.
Russians and Albanians started to rise in about the same period of time, the 90's.
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