Italian Mafia in Holland

[DutchGangster69]

Nope...they are non existent there except when they had one casino with a dutch partner

[DutchGangster69]

By David Amoruso
Posted January 15, 2007


The first time the Italian Mafia set foot in The Netherlands was in 1974 when a group of American mobsters came to Amsterdam, to investigate the gambling business there. The group was led by Vincent “Jimmy Blue Eyes” Alo and Dino Cellini. Cellini was a close associate of mob mastermind Meyer Lansky. Vincent Alo was an important Genovese Family mobster who oversaw and protected Lansky on behalf of the Crime Family. The American Mafia was looking to invest in the Amsterdam gambling world.


In the 1950s and 60s the Dutch gambling clubs operated in the shadows. The clubs had several security measures to ensure no cops got in, because of these security measures, only people who knew “the right people” could get in. In the 1970s heroin related crimes rose quickly and gambling had no priority in Dutch law enforcement. The Dutch gambling clubs came out of the shadows.


The man who ruled gambling in Amsterdam was Maurits de Vries, a.k.a. Zwarte Joop (Black Joop) born in Utrecht in 1935. De Vries owned several gambling and sex clubs on the Wallen (Red Light District) and was known as a tough guy with a heart of gold. De Vries eventually came into contact with the American Mafia and a partnership was made.


The first investment of the Mafia was $1 million into gambling club Cabala, which opened in 1976. Dutch crime reporter Bart Middelburg quotes an Amsterdam underworld source saying: “That million came from several mob Families. Peanuts to them of course, but the Cabala was the first professional casino in Amsterdam.” The Cabala casino was managed by Dino Cellini, his halfbrother Goff, and Fred Ayoub. The mob supplied casino personnel that had already worked in casinos on Cuba, The Bahamas, in England or Las Vegas. After expenses the casino made between 4 and 5 million dollars a year, which was divided fifty fifty between the Mafia and its Dutch partners.


In the 1980s the Mafia invested $5 million in gambling palace Club 26. Club 26 was an idea of De Vries and the mob hesitantly invested. Club 26 was more luxurious and much bigger than the Cabala. The mob thought it would be asking for trouble, they would be right. Cops raided the club, and in 1983 both the Cabala and Club 26 were destroyed by a fire in which 13 people died. The fire was started by a lone nut case, which emberrassed the mighty De Vries. De Vries’ empire was crumbling. In 1986 De Vries died of natural causes.


In the 1970s the Banda Della Magliana (BDM) from Rome also set up shop in The Netherlands, around and in Utrecht. These members of BDM were on the run from Italian authorities and considered The Netherlands a safe haven. This would be the case for a lot of mafiosi who came to The Netherlands during the 70s, 80s, 90s and 2000s. The Netherlands also is an important drug route for the Italian Mafia. Rotterdam is the world’s largest port and due to its central position in Western Europe, The Netherlands is a perfect base from which to ship drugs into and through Europe.


Two high profile Mafiosi who were arrested in The Netherlands are Filippo Cerfeda and Sebastiano Strangio. Both men were bosses. Cerfeda was boss of a Sacra Corona Unita clan and was on the run. He didn’t keep a low profile though, he was managing a drug ring and committed several murders. Cerfeda was arrested in Ridderkerk in the spring of 2003. Strangio was a boss of the ‘Ndrangheta, and was running his drug line with Colombia from Amsterdam. He was arrested in October 2005.


Sources: De Mafia in Amsterdam van Bart Middelburg. that boek is niet meer te koop. Middelburg schrijft ook over de Amerikaanse Mafia in Nederland in het boek Onderwereld P.R.. Zie link beneden om that boek bij bol.com te bestellen:

[DutchGangster69]

THE Italian mafia has joined forces with Dutch and Chinese criminals to flood Australia with ecstasy in a re-emergence of a crime network not seen here since the 1980s.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,23515064-2,00.html

[CheGuevara]

you just said it doesn't exist two posts ago. now you say they are flooding australia with ecstasy from holland.

i can understand how some people contradict themselves over time, they might forget what they said or something but what the hell, how do you contradict yourself between one post?

[Azure9920]

lol...

"there is no Italian Mafia in Holland"

"Here's some examples of the Italian Mafia in Holland".

Hilarious.

[DutchGangster69]

well i can't find anything about Albanian Mafia in Netherlands except theres a 100,000 of them living there probably on welfare

[DutchGangster69]

Italian Mafia boss arrested in Holland


Financial Times
24-Nov-2008
By Guy Dinmore in Rome

Italian and Dutch police have seized Giuseppe Nirta, one of Italy's most wanted Mafia suspects and alleged cocaine cartel boss, in a combined operation in Amsterdam on Sunday, police sources said on Monday.


http://us.ft.com/ftgateway/superpage.ft ... 134&page=1

[Azure9920]

well i can't find anything about Albanian Mafia in Netherlands except theres a 100,000 of them living there probably on welfare

Blasphemy! If an Albanian is on welfare it just means that controlling the government to pay them for doing nothing.

It's that mafia gene.

[Dobre]

well i can't find anything about Albanian Mafia in Netherlands except theres a 100,000 of them living there probably on welfare

Blasphemy! If an Albanian is on welfare it just means that controlling the government to pay them for doing nothing.

It's that mafia gene.

Gypsy jokes never get old. xD

[CheGuevara]

well i can't find anything about Albanian Mafia in Netherlands except theres a 100,000 of them living there probably on welfare

I gave you a source once that stated Albanian criminals are the heads of prostitution in the Netherlands.

[CheGuevara]

Blasphemy! If an Albanian is on welfare it just means that controlling the government to pay them for doing nothing.

It's that mafia gene.

It's funny that you would go along with a made up welfare joke about Albanians. It's funny because virtually every single one of your people is on welfare throughout Canada and America. You should have some respect when people say welfare because that is the soul of your people.

[Azure9920]

Blasphemy! If an Albanian is on welfare it just means that controlling the government to pay them for doing nothing.

It's that mafia gene.

It's funny that you would go along with a made up welfare joke about Albanians. It's funny because virtually every single one of your people is on welfare throughout Canada and America. You should have some respect when people say welfare because that is the soul of your people.

You don't even know what "my people" are..idiot.

[CheGuevara]

you told me what your people were. you cannot change your background azure.

[Azure9920]

you told me what your people were. you cannot change your background azure.

I was very vague. You still only have a very generic sense of what I said...

Note how you ignore the ancestors who raped and pillaged Illyria so many centuries ago.

[Dobre]

you told me what your people were. you cannot change your background azure.

I was very vague. You still only have a very generic sense of what I said...

Note how you ignore the ancestors who raped and pillaged Illyria so many centuries ago.

It's useless to explain it to him. See how much effort me and Westside put into it? Westside provided hundreds of sources disproving everything Johnny had claim and was good with it in text. I provided hundreds of photos and videos when I see that pulling a Westside failed. He still didn't get it through his head.

[CheGuevara]

I was very vague. You still only have a very generic sense of what I said...

Note how you ignore the ancestors who raped and pillaged Illyria so many centuries ago.

sure. like i said before, do not try and hide your identity. i realize your people are embarassing in the level of success but hey, live on the good parts.

what do the huns have to do with anything? you think that actually offends me? it's like saying germany against albania today. who would win? but yet, albanians as people are tougher. which nation is stronger has nothing to do with it. huns had experience, bowry, horses and population on their side. not to mention surprise.

[Azure9920]

sure. like i said before, do not try and hide your identity. i realize your people are embarassing in the level of success but hey, live on the good parts.

I'm not trying to hide anything- the facts are against you. The fact remains that "First Nations" is nearly as broad a term as White, Black, or Asian.

what do the huns have to do with anything?

You pathetically continue to bring up parts of my ancestry, while ignoring the portion of it that your ancestors were brutally raped by, and in addition paid a bounty to do so.

you think that actually offends me?

I'm not trying to offend you at all, unlike your failing attempts.

[CheGuevara]

I'm not trying to hide anything- the facts are against you. The fact remains that "First Nations" is nearly as broad a term as White, Black, or Asian.

another clear example of mental incapabilities. cite exactly where i typed, "first nations." i have no idea what you just said to me. what facts are against me? aboriginals are extremely unsuccessful and they really face no obstacles to obtain success. they don't pay taxes, they get the most help from the government, etc...

You pathetically continue to bring up parts of my ancestry, while ignoring the portion of it that your ancestors were brutally raped by, and in addition paid a bounty to do so.

like i said, you can bring up ancient facts about a part of my ancestors being defeated by the huns. it doesn't offend me in any way. the huns were practically one of the most powerful empires in the world if not the most powerful in europe. like i said, it's like comparing france to albania right now. france has economy and population on their side. most definitely, the huns had an astonishing population compared to the illyrians and definitely a better economy. not to mention the fact that the huns were a mix of many people and cultures so i laugh at the fact that you conside the huns a part of your ancestry lol.

[Azure9920]

another clear example of mental incapabilities. cite exactly where i typed, "first nations." i have no idea what you just said to me. what facts are against me? aboriginals are extremely unsuccessful and they really face no obstacles to obtain success. they don't pay taxes, they get the most help from the government, etc...

When did I ever state you used the term First Nations? Using examples from an ethnic group as wide ranging as that is the equivalent of me using examples of Macedonian failure to describe Albanians, seeing as you're both white.

not to mention the fact that the huns were a mix of many people and cultures so i laugh at the fact that you conside the huns a part of your ancestry lol.

You use the word "fact" incorrectly here. You see, a fact is something that is truthful, and can be confirmed by something other than the idiotic ramblings of a 13 year old Albanian.

OH! Wikipedia says it!!! That's why, oh my mistake now. Clearly the Chinese historical documents that demonstrate the relation between the ProtoTurkic people's that inhabited the steppes prior to the Huns are discounted now.

[CheGuevara]

When did I ever state you used the term First Nations? Using examples from an ethnic group as wide ranging as that is the equivalent of me using examples of Macedonian failure to describe Albanians, seeing as you're both white.

you told me what you were on the message board. you stated aboriginal blood. why don't you just flat out admit your total blood mixture? whatever you are, don't deny you don't have aboriginal blood.

You use the word "fact" incorrectly here. You see, a fact is something that is truthful, and can be confirmed by something other than the idiotic ramblings of a 13 year old Albanian.

OH! Wikipedia says it!!! That's why, oh my mistake now. Clearly the Chinese historical documents that demonstrate the relation between the ProtoTurkic people's that inhabited the steppes prior to the Huns are discounted now.

my god you're brain-dead. are you going to start with a "the huns were pure breds" theory now? because i have to be honest, i expect nothing sensible from a man of your gullibility and biased approach to a debate.

[Azure9920]

you told me what you were on the message board. you stated aboriginal blood. why don't you just flat out admit your total blood mixture? whatever you are, don't deny you don't have aboriginal blood.

Yeah, I also added to that as well. I don't see why it's relevant what my ancestry is on an Organized Crime forum. It's as about as relevant as you at a Mensa meeting.

my god you're brain-dead. are you going to start with a "the huns were pure breds" theory now? because i have to be honest, i expect nothing sensible from a man of your gullibility and biased approach to a debate.

Other than the wikipedia article you skimmed through, you know nothing of the subject...Don't act like you do.

[CheGuevara]

Yeah, I also added to that as well. I don't see why it's relevant what my ancestry is on an Organized Crime forum. It's as about as relevant as you at a Mensa meeting.

are you really that ashamed of your background?

Other than the wikipedia article you skimmed through, you know nothing of the subject...Don't act like you do.

as i stated before, the huns were a mixture of many cultures and people. i am correct. you can take your last resort comments and keep them to yourself as they make you look petty.

[Azure9920]

are you really that ashamed of your background?

Not at all, I have no reason to be; all the people's in my background amounted to many things in their time, some of them producing among the greatest empire's the world has ever seen. It's still irrelevant to a discussion on organized crime. The only reason you persist in bringing it up, is because you haven't the slightest grasp of the actual conversations, so you resort to petty name calling.

as i stated before, the huns were a mixture of many cultures and people.

Which clearly makes it a fact! Good call Johnny, good call.

i am correct. you can take your last resort comments and keep them to yourself as they make you look petty.

Along with "intelligent", "smart", "right", and all the related synonyms, there's one word you should never use in conjunction with yourself.

If you're actually interested in the subject though, I can recommend some books that- so much as 1500 year old text can- prove the descent between the Proto-Turkic groups that inhabited the region, and the Huns.

[CheGuevara]

Not at all, I have no reason to be; all the people's in my background amounted to many things in their time, some of them producing among the greatest empire's the world has ever seen. It's still irrelevant to a discussion on organized crime. The only reason you persist in bringing it up, is because you haven't the slightest grasp of the actual conversations, so you resort to petty name calling.

lol, what an idiot. really, you define the word idiot.

Which clearly makes it a fact! Good call Johnny, good call.

the evidence is clear now. i never really knew how you could mix up facts to your own personal gain but now i realize you are just stupid. you don't manipulate facts or lie. you are just too stupid to find out the truth. the huns were pure breeds right?

If you're actually interested in the subject though, I can recommend some books that- so much as 1500 year old text can- prove the descent between the Proto-Turkic groups that inhabited the region, and the Huns.

no need for books, the huns were pure breeds.

[Azure9920]

no need for books

Illiteracy truly is a wonderful thing.

[Dobre]

no need for books

Illiteracy truly is a wonderful thing.

Indeed, ignorance is bliss.

[CheGuevara]

no need for books

Illiteracy truly is a wonderful thing.

whatever you say, the huns were not a pure empire. they consisted of many peoples.

[Dobre]

no need for books

Illiteracy truly is a wonderful thing.

whatever you say, the huns were not a pure empire. they consisted of many peoples.

I wouldn't call you ugly dried up prunes pure...the word for you is DISEASED.

[Azure9920]

whatever you say, the huns were not a pure empire. they consisted of many peoples.

Okay Johnny, whatever you say.

Also, lol@ you calling people idiots.

[Dobre]

whatever you say, the huns were not a pure empire. they consisted of many peoples.

Okay Johnny, whatever you say.

Also, lol@ you calling people idiots.

Italian businessmen just spent 1.5 million Euros in a deal with Macedonian businessmen in Stip, they're gonna open up a factory.

[CheGuevara]

whatever you say, the huns were not a pure empire. they consisted of many peoples.

Okay Johnny, whatever you say.

Also, lol@ you calling people idiots.

lol at your total ignorance in what you just said.

[Azure9920]

lol at your total ignorance in what you just said.

I must've missed that one in the list of words you're not allowed to use.