Yearly Turnover of Drugs in Holland 50 billion

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Yearly Turnover of Drugs in Holland 50 billion

Unread post by DutchGangster69 » July 30th, 2009, 3:26 pm

This is the beginning of the parliamentary Van Traa report - section Amsterdam, of 1995, in which it is calculated that the yearly turn-over of illegal drugs centered in Holland is ... around 50 BILLION guilders at least, since many years. Nobody in Holland cares much, and indeed its cool business and 50 BILLION guilders a year turnover, of which a much larger part than legal stuff is profit. Also, it is well to reflect - for foreigners - that 50 BILLION guilders (minimally!) PER YEAR equals about 25% of the TOTAL yearly economical turnover.

Thus, Holland has become the Colombia of Europe - thanks to Dutch politicians, Dutch judges, Dutch attorneys of law, Dutch illegal dangerous and rich drugs dealers, and very much Dutch courage of the average Dutch.

And most of this illegal drugs-dealing in Holland is centered in Amsterdam, where it is protected ("gedoogd", the Dutch say, when they mean the drugs criminals have a direct link to the offcial institutions that rule the city, and indeed part of these institutions are ruled by criminals working for drugs dealers). So it is thanks to past and present mayors of Amsterdam, and past and present aldermen of Amsterdam (called in Dutch, ironically: WEThouders = LAWkeepers) of Amsterdam that in Amsterdam yearly BILLIONS are earned by the local drugs mafia.

Corruption pays - and a lot, and it is very easy, and the Amsterdam official institutions are rife with it.

Unfortunately - if you are happy enough to live outside Holland - to read how and why this has become possible in Amsterdam, you have to read Dutch.



This is from a parliamentary report!

http://www.xs4all.nl/~maartens/meinadam/VanTraa/b11.htm

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Unread post by Dobre » July 31st, 2009, 6:18 pm

Columbia of Europe? lol..

Drugs are legal in Holland and it's socially accepted, period.

Kosovo is actually the Columbia of Europe if you think about it...they would be the Columbia of Europe in an alternative reality in Columbia where Pablo funded the FARC which toppled the government and he was proclaimed dictator, and there was no US intervention...except in Kosovo, there was US intervention in favour of the drug dealers(KLA) and the US came and helped topple the government(Serbian) and take over the province.

Macedonia would be the modern day Mexico of Europe. You got drug wars. Albanians, Roma and Turks vs. Macedonians, Serbs, Vlachs and Bulgarians

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Unread post by Faciulina » July 31st, 2009, 6:58 pm

Eighty per cent of Europe's cocaine passes through the Calabrian port of Gioia Tauro

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 265889.ece

i'm sorry to break your dreams but the colombia of europe is calabria

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Unread post by DutchGangster69 » July 31st, 2009, 7:19 pm

WTF...that makes no sense.....why would 80 percent of europes cocaine pass through that shitty port...wheres the evidence..just a made up statement with no back up...40,000 kilos of cocaine pass through rotterdam each year.

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Unread post by Dobre » July 31st, 2009, 7:29 pm

Faciulina wrote:Eighty per cent of Europe's cocaine passes through the Calabrian port of Gioia Tauro

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 265889.ece

i'm sorry to break your dreams but the colombia of europe is calabria
You cannot be real. You have to be fake. No real person is enough of a moron to be this delusional and biased unless he was born and then brainwashed his entire life.

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Unread post by Dobre » July 31st, 2009, 7:30 pm

DutchGangster69 wrote:WTF...that makes no sense.....why would 80 percent of europes cocaine pass through that _____ port...wheres the evidence..just a made up statement with no back up...40,000 kilos of cocaine pass through rotterdam each year.
Indeed.

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Unread post by Dobre » July 31st, 2009, 7:30 pm

DutchGangster69 wrote:WTF...that makes no sense.....why would 80 percent of europes cocaine pass through that _____ port...wheres the evidence..just a made up statement with no back up...40,000 kilos of cocaine pass through rotterdam each year.
It's the same idea as 100,000 kilos of heroin pass through Stip each year.

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Unread post by DutchGangster69 » July 31st, 2009, 7:37 pm

lol if a 100,000 kilos of cocaine pass through stip each year...thats ridiculous..lol

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Unread post by Dobre » August 1st, 2009, 5:37 am

DutchGangster69 wrote:lol if a 100,000 kilos of cocaine pass through stip each year...thats ridiculous..lol
Heroin, worth more than cocaine. Alot of cocaine still passes through Stip, if not controlled by independents or local small time Macedonian, Roma or Turk drug dealers......

Then it's controlled by the boss, and we all know who that is 0:44



By his standards, 5-6 tons a month, that's about 70 tons, or 70,000 kilos a year. Cocaine.

That is local rumors so I don't have sources on the cocaine. Police deny it. People closer to them deny it. The public still thinks the same. How can a businessman make 30,000 Euros(50,000 USD) a week through legitimate businesses, even if he has 50 or a 100 of them, hotels, resturaunts, sports betting places, supermarkets, farms, real estate, construction firms, casinos, clothing factories, mines, etc.? A year before they busted Bajrush which was doing the same things in Kumanovo



Here is the source on the heroin though, note that even though the route is three sided(Bulgaria-Romania, Bulgaria-Macedonia, Bulgaria-Greece), the source is 2-3 years old and according to the 2009 World Drug Report, in 2007 alone they seized 120 tons of heroin alone. That's SEIZED. More seized than passing through is impossible. Put that estimate at at least 200 tons that passes through, that's 100 tons for you right there.

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Balkan route

Southeastern Europe lies along the most conventional route - the so-called Balkan route - between the supplier of some 82 per cent of the world's heroin, Afghanistan, and its most lucrative consumer market, western Europe.

Today the Balkan route has split in three – a northern path (Afghanistan-Pakistan/Iran-Turkey-Bulgaria-Romania-Hungary), a central, original path (Afghanistan-Pakistan/Iran-Turkey-Bulgaria-Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia/Serbia-Bosnia and Herzegovina-Croatia-Slovenia-Italy) and a southern route (Afghanistan-Pakistan/Iran-Turkey-Bulgaria-Macedonia-Kosovo-Albania-Italy).

It is estimated that about 100 tonnes of heroin crosses southeastern Europe every year on its way to western Europe, of which 85 tons eventually makes it to the consumer, a flow estimated at $25-30 billion, says UNODC.

Switzerland has a small domestic market. It's not a traditional redistribution point, like the Netherlands, but more a transit country, with traffickers taking advantage of the land and air connections.

"The Swiss police are quite good in stopping the stuff and make a lot of seizures, but it continues to be a place that a lot of traffickers favour," said Leggett.

Despite a stabilisation in the world drugs market, in June the UN sounded the alarm about the recent surge in drug supply from Afghanistan, which may drive addiction rates up.

"We don't know exactly where this surge in heroin supply is headed. There's a belief that it's being stockpiled – getting banked," said Leggett.

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Unread post by Faciulina » August 1st, 2009, 11:43 am

WTF...that makes no sense.....why would 80 percent of europes cocaine pass through that _____ port
it's easy, because ndrangheta controls 80% of european cocaine and 40% of heroin
You cannot be real. You have to be fake. No real person is enough of a moron to be this delusional and biased unless he was born and then brainwashed his entire life.
and what about you? you are seriously a mental patient if you think macedonian are important in the european underworld they are nobody the ndrangheta could buy macedonia in cash looool

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Unread post by DutchGangster69 » August 1st, 2009, 12:13 pm

it's easy, because ndrangheta controls 80% of european cocaine and 40% of heroin
then how come 80 percent of the heroin in western europe (france noteably) is distributed from warehouses in holland?

Also most of the drugs entering europe went through rotterdam(largest port in Europe by far and away) coming by ships and also through Spain.

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Unread post by DutchGangster69 » August 1st, 2009, 12:16 pm

the ndrangheta could buy macedonia in cash looool


lol...they could buy all of Albania at the same time..lolololol

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Unread post by Dobre » August 1st, 2009, 6:15 pm

>it's easy, because ndrangheta controls 80% of european cocaine and 40% of heroin

No. We(Balkans) control most of the cocaine and all of the heroin(except domestic grown crap).

>and what about you? you are seriously a mental patient if you think macedonian are important in the european underworld they are nobody the ndrangheta could buy macedonia in cash looool

It doesn't matter. You can't get at me with the Ndrangheta. This is why

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You can't even get at me with the Sicilians, which are still with Balkan genetics, regardless of the map, which is partly political.

And no, the Ndrangheta could not buy Macedonia. I know Italians, here, there, everywhere, trust me, the only thing they have here is a forward base called Bargala AD, a shoe maker.

And it's Italian workers alongside Macedonian workers......

And who are those Macedonian workers? Oh why...my uncle, my half brother's mother, her ex, my coach's wife etc.

It's a blood thing. Macedonia is impossible to buy with organized crime because the mafia has the country. You can buy a friggin private island in the pacific or even fucking Switzerland, but you will never be able to buy Macedonia.

Why? It's existance is legendary. You have to have seen and know what I know to know what the fuck is going on. You go some places with some people, you can feel the energy, vibration.

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Unread post by Faciulina » August 5th, 2009, 8:03 pm

No. We(Balkans) control most of the cocaine and all of the heroin(except domestic grown crap).
yes and you are a mental patient, right? even colombian ministers say ndrangheta is a king loooool
It doesn't matter. You can't get at me with the Ndrangheta. You can't even get at me with the Sicilians, which are still with Balkan genetics, regardless of the map, which is partly political.
this map means nothing most of sicilians are with spanish and arabs genetics not balkans lol i don't care what you learn at balkanic school it's full of shit and incorrect

And no, the Ndrangheta could not buy Macedonia
yes, it can it earns 70 billions to year 10 times more than macedonian or albanian gdp lol it even could buy greece

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Unread post by Dobre » August 6th, 2009, 6:28 am

>yes and you are a mental patient, right? even colombian ministers say ndrangheta is a king loooool

Columbian ministers had to ask the US for help after Pablo Escobar was playing around and having his organization take out hundreds of them and scare the fuck out of the entire nation when he could have easily funded the FARC and taken down the nation in a matter of months, so their opinion doesn't really count.

>this map means nothing most of sicilians are with spanish and arabs genetics not balkans lol i don't care what you learn at balkanic school it's full of shit and incorrect

If I'm correct, you're talking about the Camorra. Other than that, most Sicilians have Albanian and Greek genetics. Since there is no such thing as Greek, it means Macedonian and Bulgarian genetics. Most Calabrians have pretty much the same things, except they also have a good amount of Serb/Montegrin(Scythians, Nords and Slavs) genetics other than just Albanian, Macedonian and Bulgarian genetics. You can deny it and lie to yourself all you want, it's the same blood that flows through those vains.

>yes, it can it earns 70 billions to year 10 times more than macedonian or albanian gdp lol it even could buy greece

LOL it's like saying the Ndrangtheta could buy Israel. So why hasn't it already? Macedonia is a major transit point for drugs, a kilo of heroin here costs 800 Euros to 2500 Euros at most. As I said, Italians have made attempts in the past to establish bases here, but it's the same as establishing bases in China or Japan or South America...they just can't, domestic turf is stronger than invaders, this isn't Western Europe or North America. Here's one attempt, half the workers are Italians from Italy, the other half are Macedonians

http://www.bargala.com.mk/default.asp?m=1&tId=1&lan=En

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the wealth of the people is worth more than the wealth of the nation. Azure will deny this of course, it's pretty much the same with the Bulgarians. I can't really prove Macedonians or Bulgarians have hundreds of billions of Euros in assets because they don't, especially when it's illigally obtained profit. The general manager of the hospital is accused of stealing 3 million Euros, they went from living in a shithole house to a nice luxurious apartment. When I asked his son, he laughed his ass off, nice reaction. Alot of people deny it, one friend said what a Vlach stealing that amount, he wouldn't be able to sleep at night.

I'd like you to come here, see what I've seen then talk if you want.

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Unread post by Faciulina » August 6th, 2009, 8:01 am

Columbian ministers had to ask the US for help after Pablo Escobar was playing around and having his organization take out hundreds of them and scare the fu-- out of the entire nation when he could have easily funded the FARC and taken down the nation in a matter of months, so their opinion doesn't really count.
yes it counts ndrangheta controls over 80% of european cocaine i have tons of sources proofing it i also posted a source saying most of cocaine and part of heroin pass through calabrian ports today

If I'm correct, you're talking about the Camorra. Other than that, most Sicilians have Albanian and Greek genetics. Since there is no such thing as Greek, it means Macedonian and Bulgarian genetics. Most Calabrians have pretty much the same things, except they also have a good amount of Serb/Montegrin(Scythians, Nords and Slavs) genetics other than just Albanian, Macedonian and Bulgarian genetics. You can deny it and lie to yourself all you want, it's the same blood that flows through those vains.
nah moron that's incorrect maybe the nationalist balkan school teach it for etnich pride but it's just a fake history, most of southern italians have spaniard genes and i know my history better than you moron

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You can't even get at me with the Sicilians, which are still with Balkan genetics, regardless of the map, which is partly political.
So French people are same as Latvians, for example? And Spanish are same as Belarussians and Ukranians?

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Unread post by Dobre » August 6th, 2009, 11:12 am

>yes it counts ndrangheta controls over 80% of european cocaine i have tons of sources proofing it i also posted a source saying most of cocaine and part of heroin pass through calabrian ports today

Just because it passes through doesn't mean they control it. I can provide you with tons of articles and examples of how South American cocaine has directly come to Macedonian or Bulgarian bosses and then proceeded on from there. The Russian-Bulgarian mafia is a joint venture, just as with the Macedonian-Bulgarian mafia. It's part of a food chain, a ranking, if you will, the Russian mafia is the grandfather, the Bulgarian mafia is the father(son of the grandfather), the Macedonian mafia is the son of the father.

>nah moron that's incorrect maybe the nationalist balkan school teach it for etnich pride but it's just a fake history, most of southern italians have spaniard genes and i know my history better than you moron

LOL @ anyone from the West accusing us from being nationalist, and teaching people propoganda. How ironic. This is exactly why there are powers that be that serve to keep Western, Zionist and Islamist interests out of Macedonia. No..not to keep out, but to control. We filther it. I know of the Wahhabis amongst the Albanian population, we let that Islamist interest because it's in the interest of the Macedonian population to turn America against Albanians in the name of terrorism.

You don't know your history. I just provided you with history on the Macedonian and Albanian communities in Southern Italy.

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Unread post by Dobre » August 6th, 2009, 11:14 am

punamusta wrote:
Dobre wrote:
You can't even get at me with the Sicilians, which are still with Balkan genetics, regardless of the map, which is partly political.
So French people are same as Latvians, for example? And Spanish are same as Belarussians and Ukranians?
No, where the hell did you get that crazy idea?

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Unread post by Azure9920 » August 6th, 2009, 11:19 am

Dobre wrote:>yes it counts ndrangheta controls over 80% of european cocaine i have tons of sources proofing it i also posted a source saying most of cocaine and part of heroin pass through calabrian ports today

Just because it passes through doesn't mean they control it. I can provide you with tons of articles and examples of how South American cocaine has directly come to Macedonian or Bulgarian bosses and then proceeded on from there. The Russian-Bulgarian mafia is a joint venture, just as with the Macedonian-Bulgarian mafia. It's part of a food chain, a ranking, if you will, the Russian mafia is the grandfather, the Bulgarian mafia is the father(son of the grandfather), the Macedonian mafia is the son of the father.

>nah moron that's incorrect maybe the nationalist balkan school teach it for etnich pride but it's just a fake history, most of southern italians have spaniard genes and i know my history better than you moron

LOL @ anyone from the West accusing us from being nationalist, and teaching people propoganda. How ironic. This is exactly why there are powers that be that serve to keep Western, Zionist and Islamist interests out of Macedonia. No..not to keep out, but to control. We filther it. I know of the Wahhabis amongst the Albanian population, we let that Islamist interest because it's in the interest of the Macedonian population to turn America against Albanians in the name of terrorism.

You don't know your history. I just provided you with history on the Macedonian and Albanian communities in Southern Italy.
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Unread post by Faciulina » August 6th, 2009, 11:32 am

Just because it passes through doesn't mean they control it.
yeah lol calabria is controlled by the ndrangheta in EVERY ASPECT OF SOCIETY (not only criminal) they decide even who had marry this or that woman and who had to be dustman but according to you it doesn't control the drug that pass through its ports... it's evident you have not any idea how powerful ndrangheta is it litterally controls calabrian ports the gioia tauro ports the second largest in europe is owned by the piromalli family, the control that mafia has in south italy it's impossible to find in any hole of the world... just to make you understand the albanian mob in albania has not even the 10% of control that ndrangheta has in calabria

The 'Ndrangheta of Italy's Calabria region rules Europe drug trade

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yes lol in the italian schools the balkan communities aren't even mentioned in the books

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punamusta wrote:
Dobre wrote:
You can't even get at me with the Sicilians, which are still with Balkan genetics, regardless of the map, which is partly political.
So French people are same as Latvians, for example? And Spanish are same as Belarussians and Ukranians?
no bro, they are not. what is funny is that map is implying that kosova-albanians and albania-albanians have two different gene pools which is false because we are identical to one another. also, it has the spanish in the same category as the ukraines and austrians. i think it's safe to say this map, as well as every other gene pool map is false and incorrect.

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Unread post by punamusta » August 6th, 2009, 4:53 pm

Dobre wrote:
punamusta wrote:
Dobre wrote:
You can't even get at me with the Sicilians, which are still with Balkan genetics, regardless of the map, which is partly political.
So French people are same as Latvians, for example? And Spanish are same as Belarussians and Ukranians?
No, where the hell did you get that crazy idea?
From the map you posted. I also thought it was crazy.

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Unread post by Dobre » August 6th, 2009, 6:28 pm

punamusta wrote:From the map you posted. I also thought it was crazy.
That's genetic clines. I don't even know what that means. People are mixed. Macedonian Slavs can only be called Slavs because I understand Russian more than Slovenian, when originally we're of Balkan genetics.

But that still doesn't change the fact of the original point and that is Southern Italians being with Balkan genetics. I think it's as if the wind blows east to west.

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Unread post by Dobre » August 6th, 2009, 6:33 pm

Faciulina wrote:yes lol in the italian schools the balkan communities aren't even mentioned in the books
Hence why I said don't insist we have propoganda and you don't. We learn about the entire world here and the history of every country on planet Earth. In Canada, I didn't even learn about the states. I only learned about Canada.

I think alot of people are ashamed of their Balkan heritage because of the violent history and the identity of people from the Balkans being fucked up, crazy, phsycopathic, war mongering mobsters and murderers, hot blooded, short tempered, hard headed and without control.

This is good for most males, but those who want to be pansies and have a normal decent American style living would rather call themselves something else.

It's extremely rare to find a nationalist Macedonian female my age here. Not a single girl I know gives a fuck if she's Macedonian or something else. I wore an eagle necklace and one guy with a Bulgarian sounding surname came and attempted to rip it off because it was an Albanian emblem. Only old Communist women that survived World War 2 give a fuck about the identity of the people.

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I think alot of people are ashamed of their Balkan heritage because of the violent history and the identity of people from the Balkans being #%@& up, crazy, phsycopathic, war mongering mobsters and murderers, hot blooded, short tempered, hard headed and without control.
naaaaaaah you idiot i don't care if i have balkan african or japanese blood and southern italians don't care of it i said the balkan people had not any impact in south italy because it's the truth you believe it or not your balkanic propaganda is just laughable mmmmhhhh maybe you are envious because we have a mafia and you have a bunch of chickenthieves like the albanians? looooooooool

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Unread post by Dobre » August 7th, 2009, 6:32 am

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I think alot of people are ashamed of their Balkan heritage because of the violent history and the identity of people from the Balkans being #%@& up, crazy, phsycopathic, war mongering mobsters and murderers, hot blooded, short tempered, hard headed and without control.
naaaaaaah you idiot i don't care if i have balkan african or japanese blood and southern italians don't care of it i said the balkan people had not any impact in south italy because it's the truth you believe it or not your balkanic propaganda is just laughable mmmmhhhh maybe you are envious because we have a mafia and you have a bunch of chickenthieves like the albanians? looooooooool
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Re: Yearly Turnover of Drugs in Holland 50 billion

Unread post by Faciulina » August 7th, 2009, 12:33 pm

and what moron? are there from north italy? north italy is full of omosexual moron south italy has sure the lowest presence of omosexuals in the earth

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Re: Yearly Turnover of Drugs in Holland 50 billion

Unread post by Dobre » August 7th, 2009, 4:52 pm

Faciulina wrote:and what moron? are there from north italy? north italy is full of omosexual moron south italy has sure the lowest presence of omosexuals in the earth
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Re: Yearly Turnover of Drugs in Holland 50 billion

Unread post by MadIP » August 8th, 2009, 3:50 am

WHY THE FUCK U HYPING HOLLAND ALL THESE MUCH ? EVERYBODY KNOWS ITS A PUNK ASS PLACE WITH TOO MANY IMMIGRANTS, ID SAY IMMIGRANTS IN HOLLAND MAKE 50 % OF THE POPULATION, SO SINCE THE IMMIGRATION LAWS ARE WEAK, THE REGULAR TRIAD GOES THERE AND MAKES BUSINESS, AND YOUR SET OF THE ITALIAN MAFIA TOO, AND OTHERS GO TO STEAL, BUT EVEN THO HAVIN ALL THESE FOREIGN MOBS, STILL YOU AINT GOTTA BE WORRIED AT ALL, CAUSE THE PLACE IS SAFE AS FUCK, EVEN YOUR LOCAL CRIPS SET BANGS WITH WATER GUNS (Rollin on the floor !) !!! YOU WANNA SEE A COUNTRY FUCKED UP THEN GO TO MEXICO TO TIJUANA , THATS WERE THEY BE KILLIN LIKE FLIES.

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Re: Yearly Turnover of Drugs in Holland 50 billion

Unread post by Faciulina » August 8th, 2009, 6:03 am

you're seriously a moron dobre, almost on the same level of cheguevara, this sicilian guy is nude because he's hot not omosexual sicily is a very hot place

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Re: Yearly Turnover of Drugs in Holland 50 billion

Unread post by Dobre » August 8th, 2009, 6:27 am

Faciulina wrote:you're seriously a moron dobre, almost on the same level of cheguevara, this sicilian guy is nude because he's hot not omosexual sicily is a very hot place
It's currently 30 degrees celcius in Stip. Last summer it was even worse, hitting 50 degrees celcius max and averaging 40 degrees celcius.

Do you see me walking around naked? I wish.

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