List of U.S. Mafia families

[talkreal]

This is the membership page of a post Hurricane Katrina report done by the New Orleans MCC Crimnal Intelligence Division.

New Orleans Organized Crime Family Structure and Membership
2010



Boss
Joseph Gagliano
Son Of Former Family Underboss
Control Of Family Seems In Question
Many Of The Most Important Members
View Gagliano As Just A Figure Head
And Not In Touch With Whats Goes On
With The Rank And File Membership



Caporegime
Michael Tufaro
Grandson Of Former Family Soldier
Has Strong Ties To The Colombo
Crime Family In New York And Florida
Tufaro Has A Reputation For Violence
And Is Feared As Well As Respected
With The Rank And File Membership
Tufaro Appears To Control All Street
Level Membership And Holds Weekly
Meetings With Ranking Membership



Membership
Charles Farese III
Frank Gagliano Jr.
Anthony Di Piazza
Nofio Pecora Jr.
Felix Riggio
Joseph Tufaro
Victor Tusa
Anthony Tusa
Barry La Bruzzo
Herbert Barcotto
Gregory Lola

[shingdha]

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[amerikein]

Waoh. Where did you get the information? Can you send a pm?

[Empirical]

These lists need to be updated big time. There are quite a few inaccuracies. There have been a few deaths and changes in positions.

[thewestside]

These lists need to be updated big time. There are quite a few inaccuracies. There have been a few deaths and changes in positions.

Well, it was 4 years ago. Updated lists can be found on both the Gangstersbb forum and Real Deal forum.

[DJKMatt]

Here the links with the chart of the last mobsters of the 5 New York Families:

Genovese:

http://twitter.com/#!/mafia_ny/status/173571089396543488/photo/1/large

Gambino:

http://twitter.com/#!/mafia_ny/status/173907855936724993/photo/1/large

Lucchese:

http://mafianewswire.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/lucchese_cosa_nostra_family.jpg

Bonanno:

http://mafianewswire.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/bonanno_cosa_nostra_family.jpg

Colombo:

http://mafianewswire.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/colombo_cosa_nostra_family.jpg

Note: the boss of the Lucchese crime family now isn't Amuso,but Crea,anyway the chart was made on December.

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BONANNO LCN FAMILY

Boss:
Acting Boss: Salvatore “Sal the Ironworker” Montagna
UnderBoss:
Consigliere: Anthony "T.G." Graziano
Acting Consigliere: Anthony "Mr. Fish" Rabito

Captains:

Sandro Aiosa
Vincent Asaro
Vincent “Vinny Gorgeous” Basciano
Vincent "Vinny T.V." Badalamenti
Gerard "Jerry" Chilli
Louis “Louie Electric” DeCicco
Patrick “Patty from the Bronx” DeFilippo
Thomas DiFiore
Joseph “Joe Desi” DeSimone
Anthony "Tony Black" Furino
Joseph "J.B." Indelicato
Frank "The Fireman" Porco
William "Willie Glasses" Riviello
Nicholas "Nicky" Santora

This is kind of old. Vinny TV is the boss but hes in jail. TG is inside as is DiFiore who was under the Chillis. Vinny Gorgeous is doing life. Sal Montagna is dead. Gerry Chilli is on supervised release. Patty is doing time or might be dead. Desimone, indelcato and porky are no longer capos. Santora is in jail too.

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GAMBINO LCN FAMILY

Boss: Peter "One Eye" Gotti
Acting Boss: John "Jackie Nose" D'Amico
UnderBoss: Arnold "Zeke" Squitieri
Acting UnderBoss: Domenico "Italian Dom" Cefalu
Consigliere: Joseph "JoJo" Corozzo

Captains:

Vincent "Vinnie" Artuso
Thomas "Tommy Sneakers" Cacciopoli
Anthony "Sonny" Ciccone
Vincent “Vinny Butch” Corrao
George "Georgie" DeCicco
Salvatore "Sal" Franco
Richard "Richie" Gotti
Stephen "Steve Coogan" Grammauta
Paul Graziano
Joseph "Sonny" Juliano
Joseph “Joe The Cat” LaForte
Salvatore "Tori" LoCascio, Andrew "Andy Campo" Campos
Joseph "Joe" Lombardi
Aniello “Wahoo” Mancuso
Daniel "Danny" Marino, Nicholas "Little Nick" Corozzo, Leonard "Lenny" DiMaria
Nicholas Mitarotonda
Michael “Mickey Boy” Paradiso
Carmine Sciandra
Louis "Louie Bracciole" Ricco
Salvatore "Fat Sally" Scala
Augustus "Gus Boy" Sclafani
Alphonse "Funzie" Sisca
Ronald "Ronnie One Arm" Trucchio
Louis "Big Lou" Vallario



GENOVESE LCN FAMILY

Boss:
Acting Boss: Daniel “The Lion” Leo
UnderBoss: Venero "Benny Eggs" Mangano
Consigliere: James "The Little Guy" Ida

Captains:

Anthony "Tico" Antico
Anthony “Tony A” Arillotta
John "Johnny Sausages" Barbato
Liborio "Barney" Bellomo, Ernest Muscarella, Louis Moscatiello, Arthur "Artie" Nigro
Ludwig "Ninny" Bruschi
Dominick "Quiet Dom" Cirillo
Joseph "Joe D" Dente Jr.
Lawrence "Little Larry" Dentico
Silvio DeVita
Anthony "Tough Tony" Federici
Tino "The Greek" Fiumara, Micheal Crincoli
Rosario Gangi, Salvatore "Sammy Meatballs" Aparo, Peter "Petey Red" DiChiara
Joseph "The Eagle" Gatto
Michele “Mickey Diminio” Generoso
Matthew "Matty the Horse" Ianniello, Ciro Perrone
Frank "Punchy" Illiano, Albert "Kid Blast" Gallo
Mario Gigante
Alphonse "Allie Shades" Malangone, Alan "Baldie" Longo
James "Jimmy from 8th Street" Messera
Pasquale "Patsy" Parello, Anthony "Rom" Romanello
Angelo "The Horn" Prisco, Joseph "PePe" LaScala
Renaldi “Ray” Ruggiero
Rudy Santobello
Charles "Chuckie" Tuzzo

These Are pretty good but i assume you know the up to date administration for the gambinos. Artuso is no longer in charge of a crew. I dont know why. Vinnie Butch got bumped down gus scl-something (i forget) took over his crew. Lombardi is in jail.Laforte, and steevie coogan are old and decrepit. Never heard of Graziano. Anyone know about him? Mancuso is under Carmine Sciandra. Your forgetting some guys Louie M, Johnny G, that guy gus-augustus something, Rico and Dom Cefalu, Blase Corozzo, John Gambino, Peter Inzerillo, Megale?

Genoves-Pretty Accurate, Generoso stepped down hes gotta be pushin 110 by now,lol. Prisco is doing life so is jimmy ida. Your forgetting Mike Borelli, a jersey skipper, and Joe Dentes son junior.

[thewestside]

Since people have been bringing these charts up, I'll posted the current ones which, again, can be found on the Real Deal or Gangstersbb forums. The ages for some of them may be a year or so older than listed.


Bonanno Family

Administration:
Boss: The last official boss was Joseph "The Ear" Massino prior to him flipping in 2004
Acting Boss: Was Vincent "Vinny TV" Badalamenti before his indictment this past January
Underboss: The last official underboss was Salvatore "Good Looking Sal" Vitale prior to him flipping in 2003
Consigliere: The last official consigliere was Anthony "TG" Graziano, however he was listed as a captain in his indictment January 2012


Capos:
1. Sandro Aiosa/69 - Brooklyn
2. Jerome “Jerry” Asaro/53 - Queens
3. Vincent "Vinny T.V." Badalamenti/53 (UI/IP)/Vito Balsamo/55 (UI/IP) - Brooklyn and Staten Island
4. Joseph "Joe C/Joe Saunders" Cammarano/77 (IP)/Joseph Cammarano Jr/52 – Brooklyn
5. Gerard "Jerry" Chilli/77 (IP/3/10/2012)/John “Big John” Catello/56 (IP/3/20/2012) – Staten Island and Florida
6. Louis “Louie Electric” DeCicco/65/Anthony "Little Anthony" Pepitone/39 (IP/2/07/2013)
– Brooklyn, Long Island and Queens
7. Anthony “The Hat/Walker” Frascone/62 (UI/IP) - Bronx, Queens and Long Island
8. Anthony "Tony Black" Furino/56 - Staten Island
9. Anthony "T.G." Graziano/71 (UI/IP/8/3/2012) - Brooklyn, Staten Island and Florida
10. Anthony "Elmont" Mannone/67 (IP/6/27/2013) – Brooklyn and Long Island
11. Anthony "Fat Anthony/Mr. Fish" Rabito/77 – Queens and Manhattan
12. William "Willie Glasses" Riviello/70 – Manhattan, Brooklyn and Queens
13. Nicholas "Nicky Mouth" Santora/69 (UI/IP) – Brooklyn and Long Island
14. Joseph "Sammy" Sammartino-57/Joseph "Joe Lefty" Loiacono/66 (IP/5/18/2012) - New Jersey
15. Anthony "Scal" Scalafani/65 (IP/2/4/2014) - Staten Island




Gambino Family


Administration:
Boss: Domenico "Italian Dom" Cefalu/64
UnderBoss: Arnold "Zeke/Bozey" Squitieri/76
Consigliere: Bartolomeo "Bobby/Pepe" Vernace/62 (UI/IP)


Capos:
1. Vincent "Vinnie" Artuso/66 (IP/8/20/2016) – Florida
2. Anthony "Sonny" Ciccone/77 (IP/4/24/2013) - Brooklyn
3. Dominick "Big D" Cefalu/54 (UI) - Brooklyn and Long Island
4. Thomas "Tommy Twitch/Sneakers" Cacciopoli/61 - Queens and Westchester
5. Nicholas "Little Nick/The Doctor" Corozzo/71 (IP3/2/2020)/James “Jimmy Boy” Dellaratta/69 – Brooklyn, Queens and Florida
6. John "Jackie Nose" D'Amico/75 (IP/6/15/2012)/Frank “Frankie Boy” Cali/46/Ernest "Ernie/Crazy Eyes" Grillo/55 - New Jersey, Manhattan and Brooklyn
7. Leonard "Lenny/The Conductor" DiMaria/70 (IP/9/02/2012)/James “Jimmy Boy” Dellaratta/69 - Brooklyn and Florida
8. Salvatore "Sal" Franco/75 – Manhattan and Queens
9. Giovanni “John” Gambino/68 – New Jersey and Brooklyn
10. Joseph “Joe the Blond” Giordano/58 – Manhattan and Long Island
11. Joseph "Sonny" Juliano/73 - Brooklyn
12. Salvatore "Tori" LoCascio/51/Andrew "Andy Campo" Campos/42 – Bronx
13. Daniel Marino/70 (IP/8/27/2014) - Brooklyn and Staten Island
14. Nicholas "Nicky Mita" Mitarotonda/73 - New Jersey
15. Louis Mostrangelo/67 (UI/IP) - Queens and Long Island
16. Michael “Mickey Boy” Paradiso/71 – Queens and Brooklyn
17. Louis "Louie Bracciole" Ricco/81 – Bronx and Westchester
18. Carmine “Top Tomato” Sciandra/59 (UI) - Staten Island, Brooklyn, Connecticut and Manhattan
Augustus "Gus Boy" Sclafani/69 (UI) - Manhattan
19. Alphonse "Funzie" Sisca/68/Louis “Bo” Filippelli/45 - New Jersey and Queens
20. Alphonse Trucchio/34 (UI/IP) - Queens and Florida
21. Louis "Big Lou" Vallario/69 (IP/10/15/2013) – Brooklyn and Staten Island



Colombo Family


Administration:
Boss: Carmine "Junior/The Snake" Persico/78 (IP/L)
Acting Boss: The last acting boss was Andrew "Andy Mush" Russo before his indictment January 2011
UnderBoss: John "Sonny" Franzese/94 (IP/6/25/2017)
Acting UnderBoss: Dominic "Donny Shacks" Montemarano/73
Consigliere: Richard “Ritchie Nerves” Fusco/75 (IP)
Acting Consigliere: Was Thomas “Tom Mix” Farese before his indictment January 2012


Capos:
1. Joseph Baudanza/67/Luca DiMatteo/67 (Acting) - Brooklyn, Manhattan and Staten Island
2. Joseph "Junior Lollipops" Carna/71 (IP) - Brooklyn, Queens and Long Island
3. Benjamin "The Little Guy/Claw" Castellazzo/74 (IP) - Brooklyn and the Bronx
4. Dennis "Fat/Little/The Beard" DeLucia/70 (UI/IP) - Brooklyn and the Bronx
5. Thomas "Tommy Bop/Shots" Gioeli/59 (UI/IP) – Brooklyn, Staten Island and Long Island
6. Ralph Lombardo/81 – Brooklyn, Queens and Long Island
7. Theodore "Teddy/Skinny" Persico Jr/46 (UI/IP) - Brooklyn
8. Michael Uvino/46 (IP/5/24/2016)/Michael Catapano/48 (IP/5/1/2016) – Brooklyn and Long Island



Genovese Family


Administration:
Boss: The last official boss was Vincent "The Chin" Gigante before he died December 2005
Acting Boss: The latest information was that there was a three man ruling panel, which included Tino "The Greek" Fiumara before his death September 2010. Prior to that, the family was said to be run by a rotating panel of high-level members, including Venaro "Benny Eggs" Mangano, Liborio "Barney" Bellomo, Ernest "Ernie" Muscarella, and Lawrence "Little Larry" Dentico.
UnderBoss: Venero "Benny Eggs" Mangano/90
Consigliere: James "The Little Guy" Ida/70 (IP/L)


Capos:
1. Anthony "Tico" Antico/76 (IP/6/12/2018) – Brooklyn
2. Liborio "Barney" Bellomo/54/Ernest Muscarella/66 – Bronx, East Harlem and Manhattan
3. Ludwig "Ninny" Bruschi/75/Anthony “Tony D” Palumbo/63 (IP/11/12/2019) - New Jersey
4. Dominick "Quiet Dom" Cirillo/80 – Manhattan and New Jersey
5. Joseph "Joe D" Dente Jr/48 (UI) – Bronx
6. Lawrence "Larry Fab/Little Larry" Dentico/86 - New Jersey and Philly
7. Silvio DeVita/78 - New Jersey
8. Anthony "Tough Tony/Tony Parkside" Federici/68/Anthony "Rom" Romanello/74 (UI) – Queens
9. Michael “Little Mike” Coppola/65 (IP/3/4/2024)/Michael “Tona” Borelli/73 (Acting) – New Jersey
10. Rosario “Ross” Gangi/70/Salvatore "Sammy Meatballs" Aparo/79 – Manhattan, Brooklyn and New Jersey
11. Matthew "Matty the Horse" Ianniello/89 – Brooklyn, Staten Island, Connecticut, Long Island, New Jersey and Florida
12. Frank "Punchy" Illiano/81/Albert "Kid Blast" Gallo/79 – Brooklyn
13. Daniel “Danny/The Lion” Leo/71 (IP/1/25/2013) – Bronx and East Harlem
14. Alphonse "Allie Shades" Malangone/73/Alan "Baldie" Longo/60 - Manhattan, Brooklyn and New Jersey
15. James "Jimmy from 8th Street" Messera/72 – Manhattan and Brooklyn
16. Pasquale "Patsy" Parello/65 - Bronx
17. Angelo "The Horn" Prisco/71 (IP/L)/Joseph "PePe" LaScala/77 - The Bronx and New Jersey
18. Charles "Chuckie" Tuzzo/76 – Brooklyn



Lucchese Family


Administration:
Boss: Steven "Stevie Wonder/Herbie" Crea/64
UnderBoss: Was Crea before he replaced Vittorio "Vic" Amuso as official boss in 2012
Consigliere: Joseph "Joe C" Caridi/63


Capos:
1. John "Johnny Hooks" Capra/70 - Bronx
2. John "Big John" Castellucci/52 - Brooklyn
3. Joseph “Big Joe” DiNapoli/76 (UI) - Bronx
4. Andrew DiSimone/48 (IP/8/7/2013) - Westchester and the Bronx
5. Joseph "Joey" Giampa/70 – Bronx and New Jersey
6. Joseph "Big Joey" Lubrano/41 (IP/10/31/2014)/Carlo Propetta/69 (IP) - Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island and the Bronx
7. Matthew Madonna/76 (UI) – Bronx
8. Aniello "Neil" Migliore/76 – Manhattan, Long Island and Florida
9. Ralph Perna/64 (UI) – New Jersey
10. Dominic "Crazy Dom" Truscello/76/Vincent "Vinny Casablanca" Mancione/50/Anthony Croce/78 (UI/IP) – Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island and Long Island
11. Anthony "Blue Eyes" Santorelli/65 – Brooklyn and the Bronx

[DJKMatt]

hi thewestside, i've read your post from a long time,you're very informed about organized crime anyway the Genovese family remains the strongest in the N.Y. area for me, because only 5 informers.

[thewestside]

hi thewestside, i've read your post from a long time,you're very informed about organized crime anyway the Genovese family remains the strongest in the N.Y. area for me, because only 5 informers.

It's a virtual consensus across the board that the Genovese family is the strongest family in both New York and the entire country. In my opinion, they've always been the top family. Even when the Gambinos rivaled them in many respects in the 1970's and 1980's. When you boil it all down, in addition to having the least amount of informers, the other reasons why the Genovese are the #1 family today is because they control the largest bookmaking and loansharking rings in the New York/New Jersey area and have the most labor racketeering activity left.

[DJKMatt]

The Gambinos were "destroyed" by John Gotti with his drama,now that the boss is a zip, Cefalu i mean , maybe they can be reorganize themself,but they are always strong in NYC.

[thewestside]

The Gambinos were "destroyed" by John Gotti with his drama,now that the boss is a zip, Cefalu i mean , maybe they can be reorganize themself,but they are always strong in NYC.

Even today, the Gambinos are a strong #2, as they've always been.

[DJKMatt]

No doubt. In the last years,in my research i've notice that there are more sicilians in this past five years than the last twenty in the New York Cosa Nostra. The Sicilians are more different from the classic italian-american mobster in different ways.

[thewestside]

No doubt. In the last years,in my research i've notice that there are more sicilians in this past five years than the last twenty in the New York Cosa Nostra. The Sicilians are more different from the classic italian-american mobster in different ways.

You mean more high-profile/high level Sicilians? Even now, I don't think we're seeing the predictions many have made over the years, of the Sicilians taking over and revitalizing the American families, coming true. Again, it's only been a handful of guys here and there -

For the Bonannos you have Sal Catalano in the late 70's and early 80's. And then Sal Montagna for a few years recently. But Montagna came to the U.S. when he was a kid and had no connection to the Mafia in Sicily.

For the Gambinos you have John Gambino who, after being a long time captain, was on the ruling panel recently. And now Dom Cefalu is the new boss. But Cefalu has been in the U.S. for decades, himself.

Frank Guarraci in Jersey has also been in the U.S. for decades. And the only other one I can think of that reached an administrative position was John Stanfa in Philadelphia.


On another note, if you already haven't, I suggest you check out the forums below. The first one is the best forum on the mob but isn't taking new members at the moment. However, the second is a good forum and is. There's more traffic and discussion on them about organized crime than here.

http://www.realdeal-forum.com/forum/

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php

[DJKMatt]

in Real Deal you must be invited right? Anyway Stanfa was an old school mobster,but the Philly mob are one of the most disfunctional mob family of America,after the Colombos. Scarfo bring a blood reign around him with several killings,and of cours bring the FBI on him... Stanfa was one of the newest which wanna take the Philly mob,but was he was busted too. Today the Philly's boss is Ligambi,true?

[thewestside]

in Real Deal you must be invited right? Anyway Stanfa was an old school mobster,but the Philly mob are one of the most disfunctional mob family of America,after the Colombos. Scarfo bring a blood reign around him with several killings,and of cours bring the FBI on him... Stanfa was one of the newest which wanna take the Philly mob,but was he was busted too. Today the Philly's boss is Ligambi,true?

Yes, Ligambi is still the official boss, despite having been indicted last year.

Yes, you do have to be invited to the Real Deal. I've got some posters from the Gangstersbb forum waiting for when the the Real Deal starts taking members again. I go by "IvyLeague" on Gangsters. If you want, you can sign up there and then shoot me a PM.

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Anybody heard the federales picked up some of the horses crew????????????????? It was in the dailynews..... WHO is even runnin that cerw? Mikey Generoso jr?

[thewestside]

Anybody heard the federales picked up some of the horses crew????????????????? It was in the dailynews..... WHO is even runnin that cerw? Mikey Generoso jr?

I think it is Matty's crew but it appears a relative of his, Conrad Ianniello, is the new captain. The press release is below. I assume it's Matty's crew because of the name relation, as well as the fact that Matty's crew was involved with the San Gennaro Festival back in the 1990's as well. Plus has always had a lot of union involvement. Don't know if this means Matty has more or less retired or if he is on the panel running the family. If it was the latter, Conrad would typically be cited as an acting captain, not official captain.


http://www.justice.gov/usao/nye/pr/2012/2012apr18b.html

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The horse on the ruling panel???? The guy cant control his bowels, hows he gonna control a family?? Besides brooklyn doesnt run that family-the power comes from uptown. No ones gonna cross barney and patsy and old man cirillo. If anyone else has any say it would be larry dentico or pepe from jersey

[thewestside]

The horse on the ruling panel???? The guy cant control his bowels, hows he gonna control a family?? Besides brooklyn doesnt run that family-the power comes from uptown. No ones gonna cross barney and patsy and old man cirillo. If anyone else has any say it would be larry dentico or pepe from jersey

I'm not really up to date about what's going on with Matty's bowels but keep in mind that he was indicted as one of the family's acting bosses back in 2005. Of course, he's now 92 so, in all probability, he is more or less retired. But the fact that Conrad Ianniello is the captain suggests that more than Matty's age. Just a few years ago Benny Eggs was said to be on a rotating panel of members running the family and he's only a couple years behind Ianniello. That same article also cited Barney Bellomo, Ernie Muscarella, and Larry Dentico. A year after that, when Tino Fiumara died, another article said he had been on a three man panel running the family. It may have included some of those other guys.

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My bad bro i dint know the horse was running the family then, i thought you meant present day. How old is benny eggs?? Isnt he legally blind?? How come little mikey generoso is not on your list?? He took ovwr his old mans crew? Right? Who is on this ruling panel these days??? You said tino and larry d- those are jersey capos. Does the panel have one from each part of the family? BK, BX, & NJ? And if barney b is considered the boss-would he be on the panel or surpervise it and have a guy like patsy parello represente the bronx?

[thewestside]

My bad bro i dint know the horse was running the family then, i thought you meant present day. How old is benny eggs?? Isnt he legally blind?? How come little mikey generoso is not on your list?? He took ovwr his old mans crew? Right? Who is on this ruling panel these days??? You said tino and larry d- those are jersey capos. Does the panel have one from each part of the family? BK, BX, & NJ? And if barney b is considered the boss-would he be on the panel or surpervise it and have a guy like patsy parello represente the bronx?

Back in 2005, Ianniello was indicted as "an" acting boss. A subtle, but crucial, distinction from "the" acting boss. To me that suggests he was on the ruling panel, which is basically a group of acting bosses. But, again, that was 7 years ago. Benny Eggs is 90. While the article back in 2009 said he was one of the "recently released" members running the family, I imagine its' not really on a direct, day-to-day basis. Generoso is 90, himself, and I think he's been retired for a while now.

All we know is what the FBI tells us, and that is usually in bits and pieces here and there; especially with the Genovese family. To review:

Danny Leo was acting boss up until he was indicted in 2007. He lives in Jersey but his crew is based in Manhattan and the Bronx. I've always wondered if he is from Bellomo's crew because it's the same territory and other guys in Bellomo's crew have served as acting boss in the past. But it's also possible Leo took over the Ardito crew, which is also based in the Bronx, after Ardito died.

It seems it was after Leo went to prison that the "recently released" guys such as Bellomo, Muscarella, Benny Eggs, and Larry Dentico took over on a "rotating" basis. Bellomo and Muscarella are from the same crew. And Muscarella was acting boss, himself, before he was indicted in 2003. Dentico is Jersey based. As was Tino before he died. It may have been simply that Tino was on the ruling panel (along with 2 other guys) at the time he died.

It doesn't seem like the panel is based on geography. If you look back over the past few decades, virtually all of the family's bosses or acting bosses have come out of the Manhattan and Bronx factions. Several from Barney's crew - Barney, himself, along with Farby Serpico, Muscarella, Nigro, possibly Leo. A few years ago, when Leo was indicted again, it was alleged that Leo had put Anthony Palumbo in charge of the family's Jersey operations. Palumbo was acting captain in Ninny Bruschi's crew. And I'm still wondering if Bruschi is from the same crew Dentico is. I really don't think that meant Palumbo was the boss over the other Jersey captains but, rather, he was the intermediary between them and the NY leadership.

[sticks]

Very interesting man. Around where i live there has always been this mystique about the genovese-specifically Tony parkside. Something about the fact that all these made guys from around my old neighborhood, the only name that rings out stronger than the rest is tony parkside. Of course hes the least impressive of any wiseguys around the north queens area. He works at his restaurant day and night. No gangster BS, he acts completely legit. Yet no ones name carries more juice than this guy. Theoretically his crews into everything- making book, juice loans, coke deliveries, slot machines, insurance scams... That family is just to insulated to us to know anything.

Also i meant mikey generoso jr., michael sr.s son- hes a brooklyn captain, lives in staten island. I think he took over the antico crew because antico got so much time for killing antonelli.

Another thing, is muscarella under barney?? And if all those guys come from barneys crew, isnt it a little obvious that he chooses the front bosses? Making him really the boss no? A personal theory of mine is that Barney could be a top echelon informant for the fbi. He obviously isnt in the life for the money, if so he coulda retired 25 years ago. He makes as many moves as possible to insulate himself and hes seems smart enough to realize that it is inevitable that a guy like him will be doing life one day. To me it makes sense, but then again, im a fucking nut.

You seem to know alot about these guys so ill ask you a couple of questons

Whos running tinos old crew? Or the paterson crew in north jersey? The genovese have a peice of one of the brooklyn docks, who is running that? Allie shades? The Gallo crew outa carroll gardens? Are there stilll rackets run out of the garment district like tommy gambinos? Who would rum that carmine tomatos?? I know the luccheses had a peice of the laguardia airport (and jfk if goodfellas is right). Is there any rackets around there still? What about the fulton fish market? Who runs the feast on arthur ave in the bronx?

Thanks in advance its been fun goin back and forth with a guy like you.

[thewestside]

Very interesting man. Around where i live there has always been this mystique about the genovese-specifically Tony parkside. Something about the fact that all these made guys from around my old neighborhood, the only name that rings out stronger than the rest is tony parkside. Of course hes the least impressive of any wiseguys around the north queens area. He works at his restaurant day and night. No gangster BS, he acts completely legit. Yet no ones name carries more juice than this guy. Theoretically his crews into everything- making book, juice loans, coke deliveries, slot machines, insurance scams... That family is just to insulated to us to know anything.

It actually came out a while back (in one of Capeci's articles, I believe) that Federici was making so much money with his restaurant that he had turned over all his illicit operations to Anthony Romanello.

Also i meant mikey generoso jr., michael sr.s son- hes a brooklyn captain, lives in staten island. I think he took over the antico crew because antico got so much time for killing antonelli.

Ah, I see. I haven't heard or read much on the son.

Another thing, is muscarella under barney?? And if all those guys come from barneys crew, isnt it a little obvious that he chooses the front bosses? Making him really the boss no? A personal theory of mine is that Barney could be a top echelon informant for the fbi. He obviously isnt in the life for the money, if so he coulda retired 25 years ago. He makes as many moves as possible to insulate himself and hes seems smart enough to realize that it is inevitable that a guy like him will be doing life one day. To me it makes sense, but then again, im a #%@&#%@ nut.

Yeah, Muscarella is in Barney's crew. That crew is the most powerful in the family and so it's no surprise that it's often somebody from that crew that steps up to be acting boss. Barney, himself, has always been mentioned as a likely successor to Chin. It was he who Chin put in as acting boss in the early 1990's. But it seems Barney would be smarter than to take the official spot and would rather insulate himself, to a degree, by running things with other top guys in the family. And, for the record, I highly doubt Barney is an informant. He's "Cosa Nostra" through and through and likely wouldn't have spent much of the last decade in prison if he was feeding the feds information.

Whos running tinos old crew?

Mikey Coppola is the official captain now but he's in prison. So the acting captain is believed to be Michael "Tona" Borelli.

Or the paterson crew in north jersey?

I assume you mean the Gatto crew. It hasn't come out yet who took over after Joe Gatto died in 2010.

The genovese have a peice of one of the brooklyn docks, who is running that? Allie shades? The Gallo crew outa carroll gardens?

Traditionally, the Brooklyn and Staten Island docks have been Gambino territory. While the Manhattan and New Jersey docks are Genovese territory. There's been a lot of cases in recent years involving the Genovese and the Jersey waterfront. The last Gambino case on the Brooklyn docks was back in 2002. Anthony "Sonny" Ciccone is the captain of that crew and is due out of prison next year.

Are there stilll rackets run out of the garment district like tommy gambinos? Who would rum that carmine tomatos??

The Gambinos lost their trucking companies in the Garment District after they made a deal with the feds back in the early 1990's to get out of the industry in order to avoid prosecution. A few years later, in the mid-1990's, people from the Gambino, Lucchese, and Genovese families were busted for shaking down local garment firms, under the threat of unionization, but that was the last case that I'm aware of. Sciandra is captain of that crew now and they were busted back in 2009 on charges including bookmaking and bid-rigging involving a multimillion contract from the Sanitation Dept.

I know the luccheses had a peice of the laguardia airport (and jfk if goodfellas is right). Is there any rackets around there still?

Yeah, the Luccheses were the main family at the airports. Though the Gambinos were also at JFK. And all the families looted JFK to some extent. But hijacking trucks was already becoming passe by the 1980's due to new technology. And the indictments in the 1990's seemed to have removed the mob's involvement in the unions and extortion of companies there. In recent years there's been a couple cases of stolen goods out of the airport, where there has been a guy or two with some loose mob connection, but that's about it.

What about the fulton fish market?

You'll recall that back in the 1990's the Giuliani administration instituted new regulations over the garbage industry and wholesale food markets, including the Fulton Fish Market. The Genovese-controlled companies were banned and, of course, the market itself was eventually moved up to the Bronx. It seems the mob still hovers around to a certain extent but doesn't control it like it once did.

Who runs the feast on arthur ave in the bronx?

I'm not sure about that one but it came out just last week in a Genovese indictment that the family was continuing to shake down vendors at San Gennaro; even after officials had declared the feast free of mob involvement.

Thanks in advance its been fun goin back and forth with a guy like you.

In case I haven't mentioned it, you may want to check out the forums below. They're more geared towards the mob and organized crime than this one is and have a lot more traffic. The first one you have to be invited to and they're not taking members right now. But you can sign up for the second one. I go by "Ivy League" over there.

http://www.realdeal-forum.com/
http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php

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Haha damn your thorough.. :p
A Capeci article, like his gangland? I always was way to cheap to cough up a credit card number for that prick. friend of mine gets it and shows me on his phone from time to time. Romanello does sound familiar though. Was he involved with that club that tony parkside ran on corona ave? My pops used to play cards there but that had to be nearly a decade or so ago. So i take it romanello is the acting?

Yes i meant the gatto crew. I had no idea he had died. Do you know if theres anything left in the city of paterson, i assumed they were spread out through North Bergen and Passiac counties, where theres ton of wiseguys runnin around.

I was under the impression that Gallo and (is it Iliano?-that sounds right) ran the big terminal in red hook. That would seem right because that is genovese territory more than anywhere else. And i know Sonny Ciccone controlled Staten Island but i have heard that Lenny dimara runs the brooklyn navy yard. It would make sense to me, they are two different unions, plus his power comes from Nicky Corozzo. Is Sonny a corozzo guy do you know? But Sonny C does come from the crew that once ran the brooklyn docks. Scotto? Scopo? Does that sound right? I guess you gotta know ur history for that one.

Your right about jfk, gambinos all over there. A close friend of mine from LI got arrested for boostin a truck of Iphones, not to long ago actually.

Yeah i remember all the guiliani BS. IMO he ruined NY, he cleaned it up, he urbanized it, i miss the homeless window wipers, the sex shops, the smack dealers all over the place. Im white and i think that that stop and frisk BS is the most racist, unconstitutional fucked up law iv ever seen. One day theyre gonna arrest a shine with enough money to take that shit to the supreme court and win. And i will laugh my ass off.

Anyways, he moved it to hunts point, where didnt they lucchese take over? I remeber something about lucchese bookies getting caught up in a sting in the paper a while back. Are there any mob influence in garbage any more? Barney has his own garbage co. though right? So does that made guy with the luccheses, one of the Castelluccis/Castille brothers. I figure all that property rights BS is over, butthere must be something still going on, landfill scams?

The Arthur Ave feast is huge, imo its more traditional than san gennaro, go there every year. Gotta get those fucking zeppoles man lol. I always figured the genovese and the lucchese split it in half, since they are the only family with a notable presemce in that nieghborhood. Speaking of which, whatever the fuck ever happened to luie bracciole? Sal Locacio? Funzi? never hear about those guys. What about the bonannos?

How did the horses crew get into san gennaro? I thought Tony Urso had that. Whos running his crew now that Ant Calabrese is inside? Hell, whos runnin the bonannos? TVs inside, Grazianos inside, Calabrese and Nicky Santora are inside. Who stepped up? Or any predictions? Joe Cs kid wants it i know. If he could get past the fact that his father is a homo. Could be Louie Electric. My best guess tho is Jerry Chili, no one certainly wants to fuck with him he has some certainly bad-ass stories circling around. Like bitching out gotti or gravano or somebody like that. Did he knock the shit out of gotti or was that Mike Paradiso? I think Paradiso punched Gravano or something.. fucking hard. I get all these greaseballs confused.. Its really hard for a nearly illiterate jameson drinking irishman like myself lol.

Appreciate telling me about those other sites but to be honest im suprised i even log in once a day to check this thing. Its funny i check my facebook like once a fucking month man. To be honest this is pretty cool having someone with all this info to go back and forth with. But i like lookin at all the yams argueing back and forth about "who b rppin the Pink Houses" and whos "a str8 up thug azz niqqa"... LOL :O Usually i just get with the guys and head down to the bohemian beer garden and talk about who are bookies are with, whats goin on with so and so, etc. while were shit faced. Honestly we're worse gossipers than a bunch of HS girls lol... You live in the city? Youd be welcome to tag along one day, be fun havin an expert amongst us.

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A Capeci article, like his gangland? I always was way to cheap to cough up a credit card number for that prick. friend of mine gets it and shows me on his phone from time to time. Romanello does sound familiar though. Was he involved with that club that tony parkside ran on corona ave? My pops used to play cards there but that had to be nearly a decade or so ago. So i take it romanello is the acting?

I don't pay for it either. It gets posted every Thursday on the Real Deal forum. Excerpts of Capeci's weekly articles, though not the entire thing, are allowed on the Gangstersbb forum.

Romanello was indicted as an "acting captain" back in 2006. In 2010 he was indicted as a full fledged captain, according to articles on the case. It seems there's a good chance he has taken over the crew and Federici just wants to run his restaurant.

Yes i meant the gatto crew. I had no idea he had died. Do you know if theres anything left in the city of paterson, i assumed they were spread out through North Bergen and Passiac counties, where theres ton of wiseguys runnin around.

Back in 2004 there was a huge gambling bust involving Gatto's crew. 43 people were charged and it included ones from the Lucchese and Bonanno families as well. Loansharking, cocaine trafficking, and weapons charges were also involved. That same year, the New Jersey OC report gave a breakdown of the LCN families in the state, including several Genovese crews. The Gatto crew was specifically said to operate in Bergen and Passaic counties.

I was under the impression that Gallo and (is it Iliano?-that sounds right) ran the big terminal in red hook. That would seem right because that is genovese territory more than anywhere else. And i know Sonny Ciccone controlled Staten Island but i have heard that Lenny dimara runs the brooklyn navy yard. It would make sense to me, they are two different unions, plus his power comes from Nicky Corozzo. Is Sonny a corozzo guy do you know? But Sonny C does come from the crew that once ran the brooklyn docks. Scotto? Scopo? Does that sound right? I guess you gotta know ur history for that one.

Yeah, Gallo and Illiano are said to be co-captains of their crew, which is based in Red Hook. But there hasn't been much news on them lately. They're both getting on in years. Gallo is 79 and Illiano is 81.

The 2002 ILA waterfront case, which charged Ciccone, as well as Peter and Richard Gotti, involved Local 1814 in Brooklyn. Also Local 1, which I think is in Staten Island but I'm not sure. Ciccone is a captain over his own crew. It's the same crew that Scotto ran, and Tough Tony before him.

It's possible DiMaria has involvement with the waterfront, though I don't recall anything specific off the top of my head. On the forums it was believed for some time that DiMaria was part of Nicky Corozzo's crew. And he may have been at one time. But DiMaria was indicted as a full captain in 2008 in the big Gambino bust so he may run his own crew now.

Your right about jfk, gambinos all over there. A close friend of mine from LI got arrested for boostin a truck of Iphones, not to long ago actually.

His name wouldn't be John Micali, would it?

Anyways, he moved it to hunts point, where didnt they lucchese take over? I remeber something about lucchese bookies getting caught up in a sting in the paper a while back.

That was a joint Genovese-Lucchese bookmaking operation (run out of the Hunts Point market) that got busted back in 2006.

Are there any mob influence in garbage any more? Barney has his own garbage co. though right? So does that made guy with the luccheses, one of the Castelluccis/Castille brothers. I figure all that property rights BS is over, butthere must be something still going on, landfill scams?

Due to the Giuliani regulations and the national carting corporations moving into NY in the 1990's, the mob doesn't have a lock on commercial garbage like it once did. However, it's still very involved, especially in the unregulated recycling and demolition industries. A report out of New Jersey was just released a month or two ago talking about the ongoing organized crime involvement in the waste industry there. The last "property rights" example I can think of was from the June 2006 case up in Connecticut where Matty Ianniello was controlling the garbage industry through James Galante's companies.

The Arthur Ave feast is huge, imo its more traditional than san gennaro, go there every year. Gotta get those #%@&#%@ zeppoles man lol. I always figured the genovese and the lucchese split it in half, since they are the only family with a notable presemce in that nieghborhood. Speaking of which, whatever the fu-- ever happened to luie bracciole? Sal Locacio? Funzi? never hear about those guys. What about the bonannos?

Louie Bracciole is still around but he's 81 now. The last case he was involved in was back in 2001. You probably recall Locascio's crew being involved in that phone cramming and internet porn scam that took in hundreds of millions of dollars before it was broken up back in 2005. From what I've heard, Sal Locascio is still the official captain but he spends most of his time down in Florida and Andy Campos is the acting captain. Funzie Sisca is still around. He's 68. Still official captain of his crew, as far as I know. Louis “Bo” Filippelli is the acting captain and was involved in the big February 2008 Gambino case.

I'm not sure if you're asking about the Bonanno family in general or just the Bronx faction of the family, which has been hit pretty hard over the past decade in the cases involving Vinny Gorgeous, Patty DeFillipo, Michael Mancuso, etc. All 5 NY families have some presence in the Bronx, to one degree or another, although you're right that the Genovese and Luccheses have the most.

How did the horses crew get into san gennaro? I thought Tony Urso had that. Whos running his crew now that Ant Calabrese is inside? Hell, whos runnin the bonannos? TVs inside, Grazianos inside, Calabrese and Nicky Santora are inside. Who stepped up? Or any predictions? Joe Cs kid wants it i know. If he could get past the fact that his father is a homo. Could be Louie Electric. My best guess tho is Jerry Chili, no one certainly wants to fu-- with him he has some certainly bad-ass stories circling around. Like bitching out gotti or gravano or somebody like that. Did he knock the shit out of gotti or was that Mike Paradiso? I think Paradiso punched Gravano or something.. #%@&#%@ hard. I get all these greaseballs confused.. Its really hard for a nearly illiterate jameson drinking irishman like myself lol.

Ianniello's crew has been involved in the San Gennaro festival at least since the 1990's. Jimmy Ida, who was from Matty's crew, was busted in a case involving the feast back in 1996, I believe. While Bonanno member Perry Criscitelli was involved in the feast some years back, San Gennaro has always been a Genovese racket traditionally.

Vito Balsamo was the acting captain of the crew, while Calabrese was indicted as a soldier. It's not clear who is currently running the Bonanno family since Vinny TV was indicted. Chili's crew has continued to be pretty active, being involved in cases in New York and Florida in 2005 and 2009. I haven't heard anything about him taking the top spot though. Yeah, it was Paradiso who supposedly slapped Gotti back in the 1970's.

Appreciate telling me about those other sites but to be honest im suprised i even log in once a day to check this thing. Its funny i check my facebook like once a #%@&#%@ month man. To be honest this is pretty cool having someone with all this info to go back and forth with. But i like lookin at all the yams argueing back and forth about "who b rppin the Pink Houses" and whos "a str8 up thug azz niqqa"... LOL :O Usually i just get with the guys and head down to the bohemian beer garden and talk about who are bookies are with, whats goin on with so and so, etc. while were shit faced. Honestly we're worse gossipers than a bunch of HS girls lol... You live in the city? Youd be welcome to tag along one day, be fun havin an expert amongst us.

Well, that's why I mentioned the Real Deal and Gangstersbb forums. I'm on both of them and there's others besides just myself. This board is pretty dead when it comes to OC talk. It's a gang forum anyway. The Real Deal, especially, is the best. Lots of guys from all over NYC there, as well as Jersey, Philly, Boston, Chicago, Detroit, etc. I actually live in Utah. You'll get a lot more feedback and talk about the stuff we discuss here over there or on the Gangsters board. I'm still waiting for David (the administrator) to "open the books" on the Real Deal again. They've been closed for a while now. But if you wanted to sign up on Gangsters, you could talk about all the same stuff there and I could put you on the list for the Real Deal. I think they'd appreciate having another "local" guy there. Some real crazy, ball breakers over on the Real Deal.

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Haha damn bro, you never cease to amaze me! You must really soak up those Capeci articles lol.

Yeah i guess Romanello must run that crew, he ran a club, a kind of lounge across from tough tonys restaurant. (I wanna say it was called corona ave social club but thats only a guess). We only ever knew that he ran the club by word of mouth, my old man was a fixture in that place and he never met Tony outside from in the restaurant. My dad kind of stopped hangin around there around when it was closed because he didint get along with some of the younger (well 40-50 yr olds) that hung around there. He enjoyed the old timers, the guys who would take a bet on whether the sun would rise the next morning lol... But a lot of younger guys from long island started hanging around trying to get their fingers pricked and what not. As you can imagine these guys didnt have shit for sense and were around there all the time saying shit like "tell tony about me" and "what did tony say about me"... A bunch of steroid using, crack dealing punks. A lot of those guys wised up for the most part and got their buttons. Mike Virtuoso was one, Jimmy Esposito, Ant Pepitone really turned out to be gold for Danny Cuatia.

Yeah i never heard about that bust with the Gatto crew. Most those guys live around Ft. Lee, Englewood, Fair Lawn, places where its still white. I love hearing people spout BS about "the mafia controls/supplys the drugs to the ghetto"- yeah, OK... You go to paterson and say that a couple of times and within ten minutes youll be chased by a group of teens with fucking machetes. But i am pretty pleased that my assumptions were right.

About the docks, local 1814 is brooklyn navy yard i know, i should do some research to find about the red hook terminal, which is different. Local 1 is Port Newark, right near the ironbound neighborhood, which is run by Tinos (old) crew. So Mikey Coppola runs it then if you are right. Is he the son of trigger mike? Wasnt he a bronx guy? Tino was one of those crazy mfers that had stories that made you cringe about him. I have heard a story (just a story idk how true) about him stabbing an underling with a icepick so hard that is got stuck to the floor under him. My cousin talks of a guy by the name "Jimmy Cootch" is in charge of the local. No idea to how truthful, i guess youll have to look him up.

Yeah it is John, my brother was in his wedding. Hes with Frankie the hat. His father was a gotti guy with peter and later ronnie t. John used to be with TG on staten island, but a guy named Porky Zannochio beat the shit out of him at a party and he got a transfer to joe the cripples crew. John was friends with Lee Davanzo, who is famous for being Dritas husband on mob wives. He ran a crew called the new springville crew that was into drugs and bank heists, made millions to. Johns not very bright but my brother fucking loves him...

I did mean the bonannos bronx crew, and i saw how funzi is said to be a bronx captain, but i think more realistically he would be a westchester and north jersey kind of guy.

I asked my pop, jerry chilli called gravano a rat to his face, while he was gottis number 2, and gotti never did shit bc he was trying to get on good terms with that family to bring them onto the commission so he could over power the chin. If he whacked Chilli, he woulda screwed it all up.

Another Story-
My brother, my roomate and I worked at a place called playstation in the city back in the day... This was about 04-05, i wasnt even drinking age but i was living away from home and trying to afford an apartment in Greenpoint. Back then we were paying 2200 a month for a 2 bedroom, which is considered good now. Neither of our jobs made enough to leave us with much spending money. So i talked to my older brother and he was able to get me a job as a dealer and my roomate as a doorman cause he was big. We got paid 20 an hour plus tips(well i got tips), which came to around around 200-250 bucks by the end of a shift. There were 10 tables moving on a weeknight, each table took in 80 bucks an hour, action usually picked up around 5 pm. I remember Robert Downey Jr sitting at my table for a game of nlhe. Anyways it was closed in 2005, nypd came and arrested everyone there. Of course around only 25% of all employees that worked there were there in one night, so me and my roomate both got away clean. My managers name was Michele Iocono, we called him mike, he was about 75-80 at the time. Maybe you might know him, i had the impression he was made, just kindof how he talked, said he wasnt worried about robbers and such and such... He let it slip he lived on smith street in carroll gardens. My girlfriend at the time was living on court st, and i told him she loved the neighborhood but couldnt afford the rent. And he tells me about his friend-Al whos wife has her name on the apartment her parents had since 1936, with like 75 dollar rent. I do the usual- "HOLY SHIT!!!" he probably hears everytime he tells someone that, and i ask him how his friends health is bc im assuming he was about 90. He goes "Aahh kid blast is gonna live till hes 110, hes survived more shit than you would ever know". Im kindof wondering who the hell this guy is till i pick up on "kid blast", I say "Kid Blast like the song??" (meaning bob dylans "joey") He says yeah. And i start asking him abunch of questions about crazy joe and hes telling me stories about how they took on the colombos. He never said that he was under Al Gallo, but he said he was a skipper, and that he was the most respected guy left in the neighborhood. Thats about as connected as i get lol, cool story to tell your friends though.


Aw shit i forgot this place sensors cuss words. Thanks for the input tho westside, the realdeal sounds like i would like it just for the free gangland if nothing else lol...

[thewestside]

Well, you at least can count on guys like Jerry Capeci and George Anastasia being solid sources of info about the mob. Unlike certain other OC authors or many journalists in general. But I do wish Capeci would put some more effort in. His weekly articles have been sort of "hit and miss" in recent years as far as how interesting they are. For a while, Anastasia was doing weekly news videos about the mob in Philly and he's got maybe a couple dozen guys on the street to work with there. Capeci has hundreds in New York and still has Anastasia fill in for him from time to time.

Yeah, I've heard several of the stories about Tino. The one where he stabbed a guy in the chest with an icepick, of course. Another one where he strangled a guy to death with a piano wire. Then another one where he shot three guys in a bar. One that stands out was the case of Robert Harris back in 1969. He was a black civic leader and nightclub owner opened a sportsbook catering to black players in Tino's territory. Long story short, when they found his body at a local dump in New Jersey, his skull was crushed, his spine broken, the ribs on his right side were caved in, nine ribs on the left side were fractured, and one of his legs was broken. He had also been shot once in the chest.

Ha, whether he likes it or not, Lee D'Avanzo's name is probably more well known now because of his wife's show than because of the New Springville Boys. Did you ever see the bit they did on Jimmy Kimmel where they used an argument from Mob Wives between Lee and Drita and combined it with the Flintstones? Pretty funny.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXnxbl2aK2k


Anyway even though the books are closed, so to speak, I've put in a special request to the powers that be to let you in. I think you'd be a good addition over there and you'll find the 1000x more what we talk about here over there. Lots of people from your neck of the woods.

[thewestside]

Sticks,

I sent you a email from this board. I thought it was just a regular PM from one poster to another on message boards but that function has been spotty here. Anyway, it said my message was sent to you. I don't know if it went to your personal email or to your account here. Either way, let me know if you got it. It's about the Real Deal.

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Hahaha yeah i never seen that about drita. Thanks for the invite im kindof unsure about the pms here to so i guess ill let u know if everything works out. If not i can always stir up some shit amongst the african american youths...:p

[thewestside]

Hahaha yeah i never seen that about drita. Thanks for the invite im kindof unsure about the pms here to so i guess ill let u know if everything works out. If not i can always stir up some shit amongst the african american youths...:p

If you can't find my message you could always give me your email and I could send it to you directly. But I don't know if you just want to paste it right here on the board. Like I said before, another way would be to sign up over on Gangstersbb and then I could PM you there. Kind of pain in the butt. But the Real Deal is worth it. After you check that place out, you probably won't bother with this board again. I don't that much anymore.