Detroit Mafia

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Detroit Mafia

Unread postby icegoodbarbPresident » April 8th, 2008, 6:53 pm

"Boss"
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"Underboss"
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Consigliere
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"Capos"
Vito Giacalone
Anthoyn Lapiana Jr
Jack Vito Giacalone
Francesco Bommarito
"Soldiers"
Carlo Bommarito
Paul Corrado
Paul Coraddo (different than the one above)
Anthoyn Giacalone JR
Paul Joseph Tocco
Salvatore Tocco
(Many other soldiers these are mostly immediate family made members) Detroits la cosa nostra many think have 30-50 made members) They also have territory in
Windsor Ontario
Youngstown Ohio
Toledo Ohio
Las Vegas Nevada
Partinico Sicily
Southern California

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Unread postby thewestside » April 8th, 2008, 10:30 pm

Here is a chart by mcscott from another forum. He has contacts with local police and FBI in Detroit and has written the book "Motor City Mafia: A Century of Organized Crime in Detroit." During the "Game Tax" indictment in the mid-1990's, the family was said to have about 30 members. However, mcscott has said that his FBI contacts have told him that boss Jack Tocco has made a number of new members in recent years, possibly raising the family's membership to as high as 45. Underboss Tony Zerilli, who was convicted in the "Game Tax" case, will be getting out of prison here soon if in fact he isn't already out.


Boss: Giacamo "Black Jack" Tocco
Underboss: Anthony "Tony Z" Zerilli
Acting Underboss: Vito "Billy Jack" Giacalone
Consigliere: Anthony "Tony T" Tocco

Counselor Emeritus: Joseph Barbara, Jr., Dominic Bommarito
Street Boss: Jack "Jackie The Kid" Giacalone

Captains:

Anthony "Chicago Tony" La Piana
Anthony "Fat Tony" Giacalone, Jr.
Anthony "Tony Pal" Palazolla
Frank "Frankie The Bomb" Bommarito
Peter Tocco

Soldiers:

David "Ace" Aceto
Eugene "Genie Boy" Baratta
Carlo Bommarito
Dominic Bommarito
John "J.P" Bommarito
Matthew Bommarito
Vincenzo "Vinnie Bro" Brozino
Pat Carlini
Anthony "Little Tony Long" Cimini
Dominic "Chicago Dom" Corrado
Paul "Big Paulie" Corrado
Paul "Cousin Paulie" Corrado
Peter "Fat Pete" Corrado
Peter "Baby Bull" Corrado
John D'intino
Don Fragale
Antonio "Tony the Barber" Foglia
Michael Galardi
Patrick "Pat the Pimp" Gatt
Anthony "Fat Tony" Giacalone, Jr.
Joseph "Joey Jack" Giacalone
Joseph "Little Joey Jack" Giacalone
Jack "Jackie the Nose/Jackie Jacks" Giacalone
Anthony "Chicago Tony" La Piana
Robert "Bobby the Animal" La Puma
William "Billy Lee" Loiacano
Jack "Little Jack" Lucido
Sam Lucido
Sebastian "Buster" Lucido
Isodoro "Teddy San Diego" Matranga
Joe Messina
Pete Messina
Anthony "Little Tony Pal" Palazzola
Salvatore "Little Sammy Pal" Palazzola
Antonio "Toto" Ruggirello
John Sciarotta
Anthony "Little Tony" Tocco, Jr.
Jack "Little Jackie" Tocco, Jr.
Joe Tocco
Paul Tocco
Peter "Little Pete" Tocco, Jr.
Salvatore "Mops" Tocco
Vito Tocco
Danny Triglia
Danny Tringale
Joey Tringale
Sam Ventamillia
Joe Vicarri
Dominic "Fat Dom" Vivio
Phillip Zerilli

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Unread postby JohnnyRed » April 9th, 2008, 6:35 pm

Are these all made men? Or are some associates?

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Unread postby icegoodbarbPresident » April 9th, 2008, 6:43 pm

It"s hard to know but most are made men

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Unread postby JohnnyRed » April 9th, 2008, 6:46 pm

Thats alot of people actually... I wouldnt have put them as that numerous in Detroit being as Detroit is 85% black and you dont hear much about the mob down there. I lived there for a few years never seen an Italian criminal at all actually... But I dont doubt it though.

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Unread postby icegoodbarbPresident » April 9th, 2008, 7:21 pm

it's a pretty well kept secret thats why they've been so succesful

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Unread postby thewestside » April 10th, 2008, 3:15 pm

JohnnyRed wrote:Thats alot of people actually... I wouldnt have put them as that numerous in Detroit being as Detroit is 85% black and you dont hear much about the mob down there. I lived there for a few years never seen an Italian criminal at all actually... But I dont doubt it though.


The Detroit family is very tight-knit, with many of it's members being related. It's boss, Jack Tocco, has been at the top for decades now. The family still controls the region's bookmaking and controls or gets a share of any high-stakes card games and loansharking in the Detroit metropolitan area. It also enforces a street tax on other criminals similar to what the Outfit does in Chicago.

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Unread postby flame_guards_member1 » April 11th, 2008, 9:24 am

You have 10 members of the Tocco family in here alone. Damn. :lol:

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Unread postby cugine0883 » May 1st, 2008, 3:38 pm

Does anyone know where the local wiseguy hangouts are here in macomb county? or restaurants owned by wiseguys??

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Unread postby thewestside » May 1st, 2008, 7:18 pm

cugine0883 wrote:Does anyone know where the local wiseguy hangouts are here in macomb county? or restaurants owned by wiseguys??


Some businesses that are owned by members and associates of the Detroit family include -

Andiamo Restaurant Chain
Neddies Bar/Restuarant
Viviano's Restaurant/Market
Papa Joe's Market
Melrose Linen
Robertson Linen
Tringale Sanitation
Luomo Vogue Men's Clothier
John Carlo Construction

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Unread postby cugine0883 » May 6th, 2008, 11:45 pm

westside, how do you know so much about these guys? I wish I had a way to meet these guys or see 'em in person. I've been interested in this shit since I was a kid, anyways thanks for the reply.

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Unread postby thewestside » May 7th, 2008, 1:17 am

cugine0883 wrote:westside, how do you know so much about these guys? I wish I had a way to meet these guys or see 'em in person. I've been interested in this shit since I was a kid, anyways thanks for the reply.


Well, I've been into researching organized crime for about 15 years now. But even more than that, I've talked to people who know a lot about this stuff.

I sent you a PM.

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Unread postby Carmelo_Sicily » May 7th, 2008, 7:06 am

What's this about them having territory on Partinico, Sicily? I thought they were strictly based in America. Or do they have some connections to zips like Gambino, Bonanno, DeCavalcante and Philly?

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Unread postby GodKing » May 7th, 2008, 11:51 am

What is a "Street Boss"? I thought the Capo's were the street boss.

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Unread postby thewestside » May 7th, 2008, 2:47 pm

Carmelo_Sicily wrote:What's this about them having territory on Partinico, Sicily? I thought they were strictly based in America. Or do they have some connections to zips like Gambino, Bonanno, DeCavalcante and Philly?


Like all American LCN families, Detroit is a domestic operation, though they do have ties to Sicilian mafiosi. I'm not sure what icegoodbarbPresident meant by Partinico, Sicily.

GodKing wrote:What is a "Street Boss"? I thought the Capo's were the street boss.


Captains are often referred to as street bosses. In the case of Detroit family, the street boss oversees all the captains directly, giving more insulation to the official boss. Other families have used this arrangement. Often it's largely a matter of semantics. Street boss, acting boss, front boss, etc. - they are more or less the same thing.

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Unread postby Mr.Bungle » May 25th, 2008, 12:29 am

The Toccos should let the Giacalone take over Detroit. They've always been street level, whereas the Toccos are isolated from all that in their upscale suburban communities.

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Unread postby thewestside » May 25th, 2008, 2:14 pm

Mr.Bungle wrote:The Toccos should let the Giacalone take over Detroit. They've always been street level, whereas the Toccos are isolated from all that in their upscale suburban communities.


It will be interesting to see who takes over once Jack Tocco steps down or dies. But until then, he is firmly in command of the family.

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Unread postby Mr.Bungle » May 25th, 2008, 9:33 pm

If Zerilli is smart and alive when Tocco dies he'd let the Giacolone takeover. They have the support of the troops.

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Unread postby known-felon » May 28th, 2008, 7:44 am

I have never saw a Detroit family list before wow! Never realized there were so many guys operating there.

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Unread postby thewestside » May 29th, 2008, 3:00 am

known-felon wrote:I have never saw a Detroit family list before wow! Never realized there were so many guys operating there.


Yeah, the family has remained in remarkably good shape and of significant size despite it's geographic location. The family has 30-45 members and at least twice as many associates. Detroit and Chicago are basically the only two midwest areas left that are considered by the feds to have considerable LCN activity. The others - Cleveland, Kansas City, St. Louis, Milwaukee - are pretty weak by comparison.

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Unread postby known-felon » May 29th, 2008, 1:07 pm

I have the book Motor City Mafia on order from amazon I was surprised to find a book focusing specifically on Detroit lcn to be honest.

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Unread postby thewestside » May 29th, 2008, 3:06 pm

known-felon wrote:I have the book Motor City Mafia on order from amazon I was surprised to find a book focusing specifically on Detroit lcn to be honest.


The author of that book (Scott Burnstein) is a regular poster on the other forum. He is currently working on another book about the Chicago Outfit.

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Re: Detroit Mafia

Unread postby sazeetz » July 4th, 2008, 9:00 pm

People hear BS in a conversation and feel the need to post it. For example, Papa Joe's is mob associated? What a joke? The owners are government rats that shaved their drug sentence by testifying against some South Americans.

Even a bigger joke, is the list of so called mob associates. A lot of people on that list are fuckin' jerkoffs. Let's be serious... Pete and Joe Messina. They're both a slap away from being half a fag.

For those of us that really know and stumble upon this page, it is quite a laugh. I'm going to go through a few more names and make another post just to humor myself.

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Re: Detroit Mafia

Unread postby thewestside » July 4th, 2008, 10:27 pm

sazeetz wrote:People hear BS in a conversation and feel the need to post it. For example, Papa Joe's is mob associated? What a joke? The owners are government rats that shaved their drug sentence by testifying against some South Americans.


Detroit Family members Anthony "Chicago Tony" La Piana and the late Vincent "Little Vince" Meli have, or at least had, major ownership in the business.

Even a bigger joke, is the list of so called mob associates. A lot of people on that list are fuckin' jerkoffs. Let's be serious... Pete and Joe Messina. They're both a slap away from being half a fag.

For those of us that really know and stumble upon this page, it is quite a laugh. I'm going to go through a few more names and make another post just to humor myself.


The lists of members and associates of the Detroit Family, as well as some Family businesses, were compiled by an author who has written a book on the Detroit Mob and has sources in local law enforcement in the city.

But people should automatically listen to you (some anonymous poster) because you simply claim to "really know?"

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Re: Detroit Mafia

Unread postby thewestside » July 5th, 2008, 4:14 am

Speaking of Detroit, here is a photo of Jack "Jackie the Kid" Giacalone, who is said to be in line for Boss when Jack Tocco dies. The girl is his daughter Chantel.

Because I had to upload this pic, I have no idea if it will stay up or if it will disappear like the others.

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Re: Detroit Mafia

Unread postby Eld » July 5th, 2008, 4:25 am

Ironically I remember reading an old article that Jack Giacalone was once arrested for selling stolen (I think it was) Christmas trees.

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Re: Detroit Mafia

Unread postby thewestside » July 5th, 2008, 4:30 am

Eld wrote:Ironically I remember reading an old article that Jack Giacalone was once arrested for selling stolen (I think it was) Christmas trees.


That's how the late Gambino Captain Joseph "Joe Piney" Armone got his nickname.

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Re: Detroit Mafia

Unread postby thewestside » July 5th, 2008, 4:38 am

Another Detroit photo that hopefully stays up at least for a while. These are members and associates that were involved in an illegal gambling bust in 2006.

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Left to right:

Peter Tocco, Jack "Jackie the Kid" Tocco, Peter Messina, Ronald Yourofsky, Wayne Kassab, Vincenzo Bronzino, Thomas Mackey, Alan Russel, Virginia Nava, Joseph Messina, David Aceto, Peter D. Tocco, William John Manettas and John Manettas

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Re: Detroit Mafia

Unread postby sazeetz » July 5th, 2008, 7:29 am

I'm no anonymous poster. I've posted under my nickname in Detroit.

The Westsider seems to be a self proclaimed expert since he has a few pictures and copies and pastes articles. I'm not going to get into a big dialogue about who I am, what I know, etc. I just stumbled upon this page and added my two cents. However, my two cents is reality. Some of these people listed are friends and relatives of mine.

But like I said, most are jerkoffs that are a half a slap away from sucking cock. Just because you get busted doesn't make you a tough guy, honorable, or have your button.

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Re: Detroit Mafia

Unread postby thewestside » July 5th, 2008, 4:57 pm

sazeetz wrote:I'm no anonymous poster. I've posted under my nickname in Detroit.

The Westsider seems to be a self proclaimed expert since he has a few pictures and copies and pastes articles. I'm not going to get into a big dialogue about who I am, what I know, etc. I just stumbled upon this page and added my two cents. However, my two cents is reality. Some of these people listed are friends and relatives of mine.

But like I said, most are jerkoffs that are a half a slap away from sucking cock. Just because you get busted doesn't make you a tough guy, honorable, or have your button.


I don't think I've ever claimed to be an expert. But I do back up what I say with the available information at hand, whether they be government reports, press articles, sources such as former law enforcement personell or organized crime authors, etc.

I have no problem with guys with inside knowledge. I talk to many of them on other forums. But most of them don't come across as belligerant jerkoffs like you did in your very first post. You say you added your two cents when in reality you didn't add anything. If you have firsthand knowledge of people connected to the Detroit LCN, feel free to offer it. Everyone here, including myself, would appreciate it. But don't just come on here making claims and insults and doing nothing else.

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Re: Detroit Mafia

Unread postby paingod » July 5th, 2008, 6:01 pm

thewestside wrote:Speaking of Detroit, here is a photo of Jack "Jackie the Kid" Giacalone, who is said to be in line for Boss when Jack Tocco dies. The girl is his daughter Chantel.

Because I had to upload this pic, I have no idea if it will stay up or if it will disappear like the others.

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WOW! Jackies daughter is amazing! Is she married to anyone involved in the Detroit Mafia Family?

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Re: Detroit Mafia

Unread postby thewestside » July 5th, 2008, 6:10 pm

paingod wrote:WOW! Jackies daughter is amazing! Is she married to anyone involved in the Detroit Mafia Family?


I'll ask the guy who posted it.


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