JohnnyRed wrote:well most of you proved to me that your just ignorant. one for example i never said that albanians have a presence in russia. i said russians couldnt wipe out albanians in moscow. what i meant was if albanian organised crime was to go into russia. they still couldnt wipe them out. but albanian oc would never do that because they have states with half the population and triple the money in europe like germany or france. why go into russia? although there are albanians who are involved in oil smuggling and bank fraud with russian politicians and gangsters. but albanians are not nor will ever be operating IN russia. only with russia.
A better way to phrase it would be the Russians wouldn't
wipe out the Albanians in Moscow. The Italians wouldn't
wipe out the Albanians in Italy. Why? Because we are talking about sophisticated organized crime groups here who's main purpose is to make money. Not engage in turf battles if they can be avoided. However, that is not saying the Russians couldn't
wipe out the Albanians in Moscow or the Italians couldn't
wipe out the Albanians in Italy, because they could.
RONNIE wrote:They paid money (A LOT) to the Italians in New York, VostokSila. Im sure thewestside can confirm that.
VostokSila wrote:I do not know so much about the activaty of Russians in the US.. I heard from different sources that Russians came crashing in. Violently in NYC. Many shootings had uccred in Brighton beach between late Evasei Agron and rivla groups. I have been told that Russians did not pay no one nothing, maybe the smaller weaker groups, but the main ones are a different story.
Because of the large Russian community there, the Russians were able to take over parts of Brighton Beach with an iron fist. In the early days they executed numerous drug dealers in the area and chased the rest out. Brighton Beach has always been "Ground Zero" for Russian organized crime in the United States. The Russians have a reputation for violence, but they are also smart and very sophisticated. They knew there was no way they could compete with the LCN families and, in many instances, had to pay tribute to the Italians or make them their partners. But, for the most part, the Italians and Russians have worked together for mutual profit; from big things like the fuel tax evasion racket to smaller things like the Russians supplying dancers/prostitutes to LCN-owned strip clubs.
Albanians (Balkan criminal enterprises)
AlbaniaUnited wrote:Albanians- very violent and are not scared to go where some other criminal groups wont go.
Italians- entrenched and long established in the american underworld.
Russians- quiet and sophisticated.
Chinese- also quite and sophisticated and are involved in things other groups have never been in. such as bringing immigrants into this country and taxing everything they do and force them to do work for the criminal groups.
Dominicans- are supposed to be the biggest street sellers in new york i think.
Blacks- are in big numbers and hold their own on the street selling side as well as forming gangs and such like 9 trey here in the bronx.
Mainly small, loosely organized groups organized around one or more central leaders. Primarily involved illegal gambling, drug trafficking, extortion, human smuggling, robbery, burglaries, money laundering, intimidation and murder. Though some still work for La Cosa Nostra families, others have expanded to control their own organizations.
Russians (Eurasian criminal enterprises)
Generally two types:
1) Small, loosely organized groups involved in high level sophisticated fraud schemes, i.e. health care fraud, insurance fruad, bank fraud, etc.
2) More hierarchial groups patterned after "Vory V Zakone" in Russia. Also involved in fraud schemes, but also extortion, human smuggling, prostitution, auto theft, drug trafficking, etc.
Chinese (Asian criminal enterprises)
The Chinese are the most dominant form of Asian organized crime in New York, as well as the rest of the U.S. Mainly in the form of Tongs and street gangs, although their activity is almost totally contained within the Asian community, they are involved in a wide array of activities including illegal gambling, loansharking, extortion, fraud, prostitution, kidnapping, drug trafficking, theft, human smuggling, money laundering, etc.
Hispanic criminal enterprises
This would include Colombians, Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, Cubans, Mexicans, etc. The Colombians are still the main suppliers of drugs to the Northeast, including New York City. The Dominicans are their main wholesalers, although the Mexicans have begun to expand into that region. The Cubans are also involved in drug trafficking but are even more involved in illegal gambling within Hispanic communities.
Black criminal enterprises
Mainly in the form of African-American street gangs, which control much of the drug trade at the lower retail level. Also other groups such as the Jamaicans, Haitians, etc. that are primarily involved in the drug trade. However, also includes such groups as the Nigerians who are very involved in both drug trafficking and financial frauds.
Italian organized crime
Primarily in the form of the five La Cosa Nostra families, but also includes elements of international Italian groups such as the Sicilian Mafia, Camorra, 'Ndrangheta, and Sacra Corona Unita. Mainstay illegal activities continue to be illegal gambling, loansharking, extortion, drug trafficking, fraud, stolen goods, etc. Continues to control various labor unions in New York City, as well as exerts influence in legitimate industries such as the waterfront, garbage hauling, construction, trucking, etc. Also has extensive interests in legitimate businesses such as food and beverage wholesaling, vending machines, bars, restaurants, nightclubs, real estate, etc.