CheGuevara wrote:that should tell me they have common sense.
Exactly. They knew there was a certain point they could go to but any further would be crossing a line.
the made members were listed in the indictment as member 1 and member 2. read it again you idiot. and you're wrong again. in the indictment, it said rudaj in the summer of 2004, took over lucchese operations in astoria. the fbi stated made members were beaten up on their website. is that not an article. oh how he contradicts himself!
You claims are not supported by the indictment or press releases of the conviction and sentencing of Rudaj members.
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/nys/pressrele ... dictpr.pdf
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/nys/pressrele ... tionpr.pdf
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/nys/pressrele ... cingpr.pdf
And yes, the article on the FBI's website (which I provided to you) does say made men were beaten up. But it also says the group is no more, which you don't believe. I can be forgiven for being skeptical when not a single made member of record has ever been cited anywhere.
i would not be surprised if they started to shake down the gambinos. they held their boss up at gun point. as for the lucchese clubs, you have the list on a number of reports about alex rudaj. i don't even understand your bottom half of this paragraph. you're a social outcast. and not the good kind, i mean a loser lol.
The only club of record that had ties to the Luccheses was Stamatis. The only club of record that had ties to the Gambinos was Soccer Fever. Those other clubs have never been tied to any Mafia family. And you know damn well the Rudaj gang would never be capable of shaking down a Mafia family in New York. Once again, that's why they went after Greek clubs. But you just keep blowing everything up about Rudaj and his band of merry men to mythical proportions.
you know this because you know the exact number of people in rudaj's group right? you're such an idiot. the rudaj group had the right to be called the sixth family. rudaj dealt only with bosses of the five families. he sent collotti to talk the highest members of the families numerous times. he held arnold up at gun point. he had every right to be called that.
I know the number of people who were indicted as part of the Rudaj Organization, which law enforcement said was the bulk of the group. Furthermore, the FBI itself (in that article you like to bring up) says the group is no more. Looks like that one indictment did the job. Hardly a sixth family.
And it looks like you've been caught in another lie Johnny boy. Rudaj only met with acting Gambino boss Arnold Squitieri once - at the gas station. A meeting which Squitieri called. Who were the "highest members" of the other families that Collotti met with? Name them.
lol, your offense to me calling them a gang shows a sickness and unhealthy, physco obsession you have for italian criminals. congratulations, you've become a success in life! take a look around you. you're apartment, you're little computer. this is it for you buddy
Fact #1 - the Rudaj Organization had no more than a couple dozen members at most.
Fact #2 - the Rudaj Organization was led by two former Gambino associates - Alex Rudaj and Nardino Colletti.
Fact #3 - the Rudaj Organizations' criminal operations consisted of a sports betting operation, a network of about 50 video poker machines, and some gambling clubs in parts of Westchester, the Bronx, and Queens.
Fact #4 - the top leaders of the Rudaj Organization were able to amount a reported $5 million+ in real estate property and other holdings, later confiscated and sold at auction after their conviction.
Fact #5 - the arrest of most of the members of the organization, as well as the convictions of the top six leaders, resulted in the group becoming defunct.
Fact #6- the Rudaj Organization lasted for only about a decade - from the mid-1990's to mid-2000's.
Needless to say, any objective observer can see they amounted much more to a gang than a sixth crime family.