No family is what it once was yes, but the family with the most power has been and imo will always be the west side. Gambinos and luccheses would be runners up, colombos, then bonnanos. Bonnanos dont have any unions at all, they know guys that run unions, but thewy gotta pay just like everyone else. The genovese imo have it all, muscle, money, smarts. In brooklyn the genovese has got just as many guys as any family, same in queens, bronx (more), jersey (more). The gambinos have always been considered the power in queens, but the westside has got just as many made guys, and all over queens and long island to. Gambinos got about 5 crews run out of hb and ozp. These guys deal drugs, rob houses, and generally fuck workin guys over.IN THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD!! im not tryin to say the genovese crews dont, they do. The genovese guys have better discipline, they arent as greedy. A lot of crews try to make anybody who throws there skipper some money early. A lot of crews dont make gangsters they make restaurant owners who talk the part. Guys who are conned into shelling out a grand a week, start working out so they can look scary, and then get brought along. Some skippers do this as a con, they bring along a guy who has a lot of money (earned/inherited/etc) and tell him he should be a part of his crew, then he asks for 40-50k to put on the street, and the skip will give him a point or half a point a week. So the skip pays him for a month, maybe 2- then tells him that he couldnt collect, the guy died, he ran to ac, or even better-tells the guy to go fuck himself. Theres one instance of i know this to happen, the guy was with big andy russo, the guy gave russo like 110-120 grand for his shy, did all the work, got a point a week off the book, while big andy got the other points just for finding customers. The guys made now lol. The westside likes guys with there own biz traditionally, but they gotta be able to earn. A good friend works at a club in LI owned by a madeguy with Joe Ida. This guy would not be a good example of whta that family looks for-hes a bigmouth shit-talkin prick. but boy can he earn, my friend makes 200 a night in tips. He owns the building, he owns a house in great neck, a house in asbury, a condo in broward co. for his parents, owns a boat, a sister-catering company. The guys loaded. My friend is pals with the bouncer who went on the record with this guy. This bouncer collects shy payments for him, then goes around and tells us about it. He never knows the amount of the loans but has told my friend he collects more than 7k a week in interest (not including principle). Calculator ......hold on...at three points thats like 250k. and i doubt its all at three points, probably a lot a 2 or 1.5- anyways i would assume 400-500k on the street. Thats a helluva lot of money.
Im actually suprised this latest sting of the horses crew hasnt got any attention. Have you heard about this one westside? Horses nephew got busted for most union shakedowms. Actually this is what i mean when i say the westside is superior. They are not just taking kickbacks and shaking guys down, they are trying to get into new unions, whats more theyt are behind the formation of new unions. The DC has already swept ny by storm, ive got several friends who are carpenters. The genovese has gotten in to the AC&J, another new union. Brilliant really, why try to take over a union completely hostile to lcn? why not just create your own union with your own guys, your own corrupt over-sight commitee, your own officers. I can see this being a growing trend in the westside, i am going to be suspicious of all these unions popping up around the boroughs now... See only the genovese would do something this large, the lucchese could be involved too, the dinapoli brothers have been in construction since the beginning of time lol. Pretty high up now, i think hes underboss or consiglieri for stevie wonder. A lot of talk about him from a friend of mine who told us that he was not supposed to speak his name on the street or on the phone. Mysterious my ass, i already heard of the guy- but a guy only does that if hes on the lam or hes high up- same thing with barney, though i know no one whos met him firsthand, and probably wont. Hes all my half-assed-connected-cousin wants to talk about. And hes not even on the record with anyone lmao. If he wants to get a message out to the guys on the street, it probably goes through 2 different channels before it even gets to the skippers. IMO its barney--acting boss--messanger/underboss--crews. I mean the internet is one thing but i dont think there would be as much talk about him if he wasnt the boss. I guess we should discredit my cousin as a source though, being a tough guy is like his life and he cant find a fucking crew in the bronx to take him in lol. I once got him a job dealing hands at one of john navarras (madeguy-bonanno) card games. John said hed bring him along if he was well behaved. What happened? He was an awful dealer, he didnt like getting his balls broken and told a connected guy named anthony desimmone to fuck himself, everyone gets pissed and leaves. John chews him out, calls me tells me to pick my cousin up. My cousin calls me tells me hed rather walk. What happens? He gets jumped by ant desimmone and some other guys, they take his wallet and smash his phone. So im up waiting until 2 in the morning for him to come back to the apartment, i call him 10 times-no answer. Finally i call john, and him, me and my older brother Pat go out looking for him. About 4am we find him sitting in front of the OTB parlor, all bloody. I was so, SO pissed, i thought he was at the otb all night blowing all his money, i punched him right in the nose as soon as he stood up hahaaha. I felt bad after he told us what happened, but we laugh about it now. Pat and i went around looking for ant d the next night, but thats a differnt story. God i know how to ramble, when im 90 ill have to right a book, i probably wont stay on subject but....lol.