Would you do life in prison just because you thought somebody gave you a dirty look?
Sep 2006
Edward Juan Cuellar was convicted of first-degree murder and furthering gang activity. (The leader..... who is stupid)
Joey Alfredo Diaz and Johnny Ray Aguirre Jr. were convicted of second-degree murder and furthering gang activity. (Followers...who seems to be dumberrrrr than the leader)
The three chased down and cornered 15-year-old Dominic Redd in a Corona condominium complex where he lived May 11, 2005, and stabbed him to death. (3 against 1, now that's gangsta).
Two separate juries heard evidence. One jury was assigned to Diaz and Aguirre and one assigned to Cuellar. Defense attorneys for Diaz and Aguirre argued during the trial that Cuellar was the only person to stab Redd and their clients had no knowledge or intent to kill the victim.
(The followers ratted out the leader.....now that's gangsta).
The teens, all Latinos, claimed they attacked Redd, who was black, because he "dogged" them with a harsh look as he was walking home from school. (Now they are probably going to live in prison until they need viagra)................"over dirty looks".
These dumbass's probably wished they had went home that day.
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by Common Sense » September 29th, 2006, 9:30 pm
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by Common Sense » October 3rd, 2006, 9:59 pm
There's gotta be something stupid about 3 black males robbing a house in broad daylight in very white Redondo Beach.
Police Arrest 3 Suspects In Redondo Beach Burglary
(CBS) REDONDO BEACH Three suspects were arrested for suspicion of burglary Tuesday after one of them broke a front window of a home to get in and later fled out of a back window of a Redondo Beach home as police arrived.
Redondo Beach police were called to a home in the 1800 block of Stanford Avenue Tuesday morning, Sgt. Phil Keenan of the Redondo Beach Police Department said.
A containment was set up around a five-block area in North Redondo Beach and the first suspect was taken into custody within 15 minutes when he was caught hiding in a trash bin behind a business in the 1200 block of Artesia Boulevard.
Officers from Redondo Beach were then joined by police from Manhattan Beach, Hermosa Beach, Torrance and a helicopter from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. By 9:30 a.m., a second suspect was spotted and arrested in the backyard of a home in the 1800 block of Harper Avenue, Keenan said.
The third suspect was taken into custody at 12:45 p.m. when he was seen running from another hiding place in the same block on Harper. He was taken into custody in the 1800 block of nearby Goodman Avenue.
The suspects were identified as Derrell Seymore, 22, of Compton, Lamont Hall, 18, of Los Angeles and a boy, 17, from Buena Park whose name was not released because of his age.
Police Arrest 3 Suspects In Redondo Beach Burglary
(CBS) REDONDO BEACH Three suspects were arrested for suspicion of burglary Tuesday after one of them broke a front window of a home to get in and later fled out of a back window of a Redondo Beach home as police arrived.
Redondo Beach police were called to a home in the 1800 block of Stanford Avenue Tuesday morning, Sgt. Phil Keenan of the Redondo Beach Police Department said.
A containment was set up around a five-block area in North Redondo Beach and the first suspect was taken into custody within 15 minutes when he was caught hiding in a trash bin behind a business in the 1200 block of Artesia Boulevard.
Officers from Redondo Beach were then joined by police from Manhattan Beach, Hermosa Beach, Torrance and a helicopter from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. By 9:30 a.m., a second suspect was spotted and arrested in the backyard of a home in the 1800 block of Harper Avenue, Keenan said.
The third suspect was taken into custody at 12:45 p.m. when he was seen running from another hiding place in the same block on Harper. He was taken into custody in the 1800 block of nearby Goodman Avenue.
The suspects were identified as Derrell Seymore, 22, of Compton, Lamont Hall, 18, of Los Angeles and a boy, 17, from Buena Park whose name was not released because of his age.
The quality, not the longevity, of one's life is what's important....MLKjr.
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by Common Sense » October 6th, 2006, 9:46 am
Father, Son Charged With Murder
In Neighbor Shooting
SAN FERNANDO – A father and son were each charged today with murder and attempted murder in the fatal shooting of their Pacoima neighbor on Sunday, the District Attorney’s office announced.
Arraignment is scheduled this morning for Alvaro Williamson, 41 , and his son Jacques Williamson, 17 in San Fernando Superior Court, Dept. S, said Deputy District Attorney Paula Gonzales. They are charged in case No. PA with one count each of murder, attempted murder and assault with a firearm. Alvaro Williamson also is charged with the special allegations of personal use of a handgun and inflicting great bodily injury.
During a dispute, Alvaro Williamson allegedly told his son to get a gun.
(Right here..........What was he thinking?????????)
Alvaro Williamson then allegedly fatally shot and killed his neighbor, Felimon Ramos, before wounding the victim’s 19-year-old son. The shootings occurred about 10:20 p.m. Sunday.
Williamson turned himself into police on early Monday morning. His son turned himself into police a few hours later. If convicted, the father is facing more than 50 years to life in prison. His son is facing up to life in prison if convicted.
What was he thinking???????
In Neighbor Shooting
SAN FERNANDO – A father and son were each charged today with murder and attempted murder in the fatal shooting of their Pacoima neighbor on Sunday, the District Attorney’s office announced.
Arraignment is scheduled this morning for Alvaro Williamson, 41 , and his son Jacques Williamson, 17 in San Fernando Superior Court, Dept. S, said Deputy District Attorney Paula Gonzales. They are charged in case No. PA with one count each of murder, attempted murder and assault with a firearm. Alvaro Williamson also is charged with the special allegations of personal use of a handgun and inflicting great bodily injury.
During a dispute, Alvaro Williamson allegedly told his son to get a gun.
(Right here..........What was he thinking?????????)
Alvaro Williamson then allegedly fatally shot and killed his neighbor, Felimon Ramos, before wounding the victim’s 19-year-old son. The shootings occurred about 10:20 p.m. Sunday.
Williamson turned himself into police on early Monday morning. His son turned himself into police a few hours later. If convicted, the father is facing more than 50 years to life in prison. His son is facing up to life in prison if convicted.
What was he thinking???????
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by COLONIAVARRIOKC » October 12th, 2006, 7:46 pm
that's fucked up, we livin in a pyschoatic society today
somebody fucked...it's so easy to get wetted up now a days.
somebody fucked...it's so easy to get wetted up now a days.
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by senseofhumorgirl_ » October 21st, 2006, 5:22 pm
Damn, that is messed up. I wonder why they shot at the neighbor and his son? :think:
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by Common Sense » October 23rd, 2006, 10:11 am
senseofhumorgirl_ wrote:Damn, that is messed up. I wonder why they shot at the neighbor and his son? :think:
He is what we call.........RETARDED! He couldn't help himself.
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by senseofhumorgirl_ » November 4th, 2006, 12:53 am
Common Sense wrote:senseofhumorgirl_ wrote:Damn, that is messed up. I wonder why they shot at the neighbor and his son? :think:
He is what we call.........RETARDED! He couldn't help himself.
You got that right. Something tells me that the courts would probably have him undergo some sort of psychiatric evaluation. I could be wrong though.
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by Common Sense » November 13th, 2006, 9:17 am
Teen Convicted of Gunning Down Junior Seau Cousin
By: JAMES R. RIFFEL -
North County Times Wire Services
VISTA - A reputed teenage gang member who gunned down a 16-year- old cousin of former Chargers linebacker Junior Seau after a fight in Oceanside last year was found guilty today of second-degree murder.
(So this guy is still steaming from a fight from last year?)
(He must have gotton his arse whipped?)
Jurors also found that Tony Lessie, 17, used a gun to kill Rusty Seau. But they were unable to reach a decision on whether the June 9, 2005, shooting was the result of Lessie's alleged gang activities.
(Some people today, just can't seem to let it go, with the arsw whoopen).
Deputy District Attorney Giacomo Bucci said he would no longer pursue the gang allegation after a mistrial was declared on that issue.
Lessie faces a prison term of 40 years to life when he is sentenced by Judge Joan Weber on Dec. 15.
(Now fool is all caught up......plain stupid!)
"I think it was an appropriate verdict, based on the facts," Bucci said.
According to trial testimony, Lessie moved out of his home after a fight with his sister and into an apartment occupied by alleged gang member James Turner and other men.
(Here it is.......What was he thinking?)
Lessie and Turner argued with a group of men at a supermarket over Turner's girlfriend and agreed to meet on Gold Street to settle their differences.
(This idiot got caught up over somebody else's girl)
The defendant testified that Turner gave him a gun, told him he would have to use it, and went to Gold Street.
(You're going to use a gun just because some jealous fool say's so). :shock:
Just as the dispute was peacefully resolved, Seau walked up the street wearing a jersey and hat in the colors of a rival gang, Lessie said. Turner indicated that Seau and another person had jumped him two weeks earlier, and started a fight, according to the defendant.
(Turner is callin' all of the shots and not puttin in non of the work).
Lessie, who said he knew Seau and didn't have a problem with him, testified that Turner ordered him several times to shoot. He finally fired when Seau ran off, but didn't try to kill him, he said.
(Why would you shoot a guy you don't have a problem with??)
(Again...because Turner say's so????)
(No mind of your own???)
Seau, who was struck once in the back, collapsed and died on Vandegrift Boulevard.
(Unarmed and shot in the back. Now that's gangsta, that's being real hard??)
In his closing argument, defense attorney Wilfrid Rumble asked jurors to reject a first-degree murder charge because his client did not have an intent to kill the teen.
"I think if the jury had an option to come back with something less than second (-degree murder), they would have," Rumble said after the verdict was announced. "Unfortunately, that was not allowed by the judge or the (prosecutor)."
Bucci said there were no facts to support giving the jury an option to convict on manslaughter.
In his closing argument, the prosecutor said Lessie made the decision to shoot, moved around to get proper aim and later bragged about the killing (yea....that's real gangsta) via graffiti on a park bench and a mattress in Juvenile Hall, and in a nickname entered in his cell phone.
CS View:
***These guys are both punks. One guy doesn't have a mind of his own, and can't seem to differentiate between right and severly wrong, while the other guy, can't seem to fight his own battles. When he does, he get's his arse kicked. So he get's others (weak minded fools) to do his dirty work for him. So now these two dumb-ass's are looking at 40 years to life over dumsh*t.
Comment by anonymous reader:
RUPayingAttention? wrote on November 08, 2006 9:41 PM:
"Parents fail their kids when they don't do everything to rein them in when they start disrespecting other. Kids fail themselves when they believe their so-called friends are their family. These people don't LOVE you; they want POWER over a weak man, and to control over someone else.
Result: 1- someone was Killed (who was no saint, but nevertheless loved) and those who grew to disrespect others and have been abandoned or chose to abandon will forever be POWERLESS, because the system has you now.
Result: 2 A confused teens life is ruined.
Result: 3 - Those that have corrupted so many on the street with their intimidation tactics need to be buried and put under the jail, for we do not know how many others these so called leaders have hurt or directed down the wrong path of life. I look forward to Guilty verdicts in the next two trials, now these two deserve a life of torment. And yes I am being the judge and the jury. My prayers to the families of these ... people, because everyone who is touched by this violence suffers and it is very painful."
By: JAMES R. RIFFEL -
North County Times Wire Services
VISTA - A reputed teenage gang member who gunned down a 16-year- old cousin of former Chargers linebacker Junior Seau after a fight in Oceanside last year was found guilty today of second-degree murder.
(So this guy is still steaming from a fight from last year?)
(He must have gotton his arse whipped?)
Jurors also found that Tony Lessie, 17, used a gun to kill Rusty Seau. But they were unable to reach a decision on whether the June 9, 2005, shooting was the result of Lessie's alleged gang activities.
(Some people today, just can't seem to let it go, with the arsw whoopen).
Deputy District Attorney Giacomo Bucci said he would no longer pursue the gang allegation after a mistrial was declared on that issue.
Lessie faces a prison term of 40 years to life when he is sentenced by Judge Joan Weber on Dec. 15.
(Now fool is all caught up......plain stupid!)
"I think it was an appropriate verdict, based on the facts," Bucci said.
According to trial testimony, Lessie moved out of his home after a fight with his sister and into an apartment occupied by alleged gang member James Turner and other men.
(Here it is.......What was he thinking?)
Lessie and Turner argued with a group of men at a supermarket over Turner's girlfriend and agreed to meet on Gold Street to settle their differences.
(This idiot got caught up over somebody else's girl)
The defendant testified that Turner gave him a gun, told him he would have to use it, and went to Gold Street.
(You're going to use a gun just because some jealous fool say's so). :shock:
Just as the dispute was peacefully resolved, Seau walked up the street wearing a jersey and hat in the colors of a rival gang, Lessie said. Turner indicated that Seau and another person had jumped him two weeks earlier, and started a fight, according to the defendant.
(Turner is callin' all of the shots and not puttin in non of the work).
Lessie, who said he knew Seau and didn't have a problem with him, testified that Turner ordered him several times to shoot. He finally fired when Seau ran off, but didn't try to kill him, he said.
(Why would you shoot a guy you don't have a problem with??)
(Again...because Turner say's so????)
(No mind of your own???)
Seau, who was struck once in the back, collapsed and died on Vandegrift Boulevard.
(Unarmed and shot in the back. Now that's gangsta, that's being real hard??)
In his closing argument, defense attorney Wilfrid Rumble asked jurors to reject a first-degree murder charge because his client did not have an intent to kill the teen.
"I think if the jury had an option to come back with something less than second (-degree murder), they would have," Rumble said after the verdict was announced. "Unfortunately, that was not allowed by the judge or the (prosecutor)."
Bucci said there were no facts to support giving the jury an option to convict on manslaughter.
In his closing argument, the prosecutor said Lessie made the decision to shoot, moved around to get proper aim and later bragged about the killing (yea....that's real gangsta) via graffiti on a park bench and a mattress in Juvenile Hall, and in a nickname entered in his cell phone.
CS View:
***These guys are both punks. One guy doesn't have a mind of his own, and can't seem to differentiate between right and severly wrong, while the other guy, can't seem to fight his own battles. When he does, he get's his arse kicked. So he get's others (weak minded fools) to do his dirty work for him. So now these two dumb-ass's are looking at 40 years to life over dumsh*t.
Comment by anonymous reader:
RUPayingAttention? wrote on November 08, 2006 9:41 PM:
"Parents fail their kids when they don't do everything to rein them in when they start disrespecting other. Kids fail themselves when they believe their so-called friends are their family. These people don't LOVE you; they want POWER over a weak man, and to control over someone else.
Result: 1- someone was Killed (who was no saint, but nevertheless loved) and those who grew to disrespect others and have been abandoned or chose to abandon will forever be POWERLESS, because the system has you now.
Result: 2 A confused teens life is ruined.
Result: 3 - Those that have corrupted so many on the street with their intimidation tactics need to be buried and put under the jail, for we do not know how many others these so called leaders have hurt or directed down the wrong path of life. I look forward to Guilty verdicts in the next two trials, now these two deserve a life of torment. And yes I am being the judge and the jury. My prayers to the families of these ... people, because everyone who is touched by this violence suffers and it is very painful."
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by Common Sense » November 13th, 2006, 9:32 am
^^^ More comments by anonymous readers:
esteban wrote on October 31, 2006 7:08 AM:
"Yeah you did have a choice...and you made the wrong choice...noe prepare to PAY for your stupidity!!!!!!"
Concerned wrote on October 31, 2006 8:31 AM:
"That is not a valid excuse...you had a choice and instead it cost an innocent boy his life. What is this world coming to? You had the gun, not this James Turner guy, if it wasnt Rusty that scared you, why is he 6 feet under ground? It looks like you pointed the gun at the wrong guy, thats why you are where you are today. I dont think this was worth it. I pray that you learned your lesson & will do better for yourself, your family & the community if you are ever released. God Bless."
JD wrote on November 01, 2006 8:20 AM:
"See kids. This is just one more reason why not to join gangs. Once one person gets in trouble, most likely that person will dry snitch or straight up rat others out so they can get a lighter sentence! Now is that loyalty? Be your own man/woman! Be a leader! You will have more control over your life instead of depending on your "homies" and feeling "pressured" into doing something you don't want to do! If y'all want stripes, then join the military!!!"
LH wrote on November 01, 2006 10:41 AM:
"I agree 100% with JD. Gangs & Violence gets you nowhere. Gang's alledgedly are claming a property that is NOT theirs. Why not fight and defend your country! "
LOVED wrote on November 01, 2006 12:48 PM:
"WHATS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE. ONE "BOY" 6 FT. UNDERGROUND, ANOTHER "BOY" LOOKIN AT FRIST DEGREE MURDER, AND 2 "MEN" SITTIN IN THEY CELLS LAUGHING THAT RUSTYS GONE. THATS B.S. IT SEEMS LIKE GANGS IS IN CONTROL IN OCEANSIDE. ITS TIME TO STOP PLAYING AROUND AND FOCUS. WE AINT TRYIN TO HAVE ANYMORE INNOCENT DEATHS IN OCEANSIDE. IT ESPECIALLY HURTS WHEN YOU HEAR A 16 YEAR OLD BOY GOT SHOT BY ANOTHER 16 YEAR OLD BOY. ITS JUST RUTHLESS....WE ALL JUST HAVE TO PRAY FOR OUR YOUNG ONES IN OCEANSIDE."
jimi wrote on November 01, 2006 2:29 PM:
"this is the best story he could come up with...pathetic"
como? wrote on November 03, 2006 10:47 PM:
"i agree, that is a pretty lame story.. but why is a 24 year old fighting with a 16 year old anyways? what a tough guy you are there james, not only do they try and jump a juvenile but they shoot him too. thats a real 'man' for you. enjoy the rest of your life in your 4 by 8 cell."
esteban wrote on October 31, 2006 7:08 AM:
"Yeah you did have a choice...and you made the wrong choice...noe prepare to PAY for your stupidity!!!!!!"
Concerned wrote on October 31, 2006 8:31 AM:
"That is not a valid excuse...you had a choice and instead it cost an innocent boy his life. What is this world coming to? You had the gun, not this James Turner guy, if it wasnt Rusty that scared you, why is he 6 feet under ground? It looks like you pointed the gun at the wrong guy, thats why you are where you are today. I dont think this was worth it. I pray that you learned your lesson & will do better for yourself, your family & the community if you are ever released. God Bless."
JD wrote on November 01, 2006 8:20 AM:
"See kids. This is just one more reason why not to join gangs. Once one person gets in trouble, most likely that person will dry snitch or straight up rat others out so they can get a lighter sentence! Now is that loyalty? Be your own man/woman! Be a leader! You will have more control over your life instead of depending on your "homies" and feeling "pressured" into doing something you don't want to do! If y'all want stripes, then join the military!!!"
LH wrote on November 01, 2006 10:41 AM:
"I agree 100% with JD. Gangs & Violence gets you nowhere. Gang's alledgedly are claming a property that is NOT theirs. Why not fight and defend your country! "
LOVED wrote on November 01, 2006 12:48 PM:
"WHATS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE. ONE "BOY" 6 FT. UNDERGROUND, ANOTHER "BOY" LOOKIN AT FRIST DEGREE MURDER, AND 2 "MEN" SITTIN IN THEY CELLS LAUGHING THAT RUSTYS GONE. THATS B.S. IT SEEMS LIKE GANGS IS IN CONTROL IN OCEANSIDE. ITS TIME TO STOP PLAYING AROUND AND FOCUS. WE AINT TRYIN TO HAVE ANYMORE INNOCENT DEATHS IN OCEANSIDE. IT ESPECIALLY HURTS WHEN YOU HEAR A 16 YEAR OLD BOY GOT SHOT BY ANOTHER 16 YEAR OLD BOY. ITS JUST RUTHLESS....WE ALL JUST HAVE TO PRAY FOR OUR YOUNG ONES IN OCEANSIDE."
jimi wrote on November 01, 2006 2:29 PM:
"this is the best story he could come up with...pathetic"
como? wrote on November 03, 2006 10:47 PM:
"i agree, that is a pretty lame story.. but why is a 24 year old fighting with a 16 year old anyways? what a tough guy you are there james, not only do they try and jump a juvenile but they shoot him too. thats a real 'man' for you. enjoy the rest of your life in your 4 by 8 cell."
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by Common Sense » January 22nd, 2007, 3:19 am
Alleged Gang Member
Charged with Murder, Hate Crime
December 26, 2006
LONG BEACH – A 20-year-old reputed gang member was charged today with capital murder and hate crime allegations in connection with the Dec. 15 fatal shooting of a 14-year-old African-American girl, the District Attorney’s office announced.
Ernesto Alcarez (who is stoopid), is scheduled to be arraigned sometime after 1:30 p.m. in Long Beach Superior Court, Dept. J, said Deputy District Attorney. Alcarez is being held without bail. Deputy District Attorney John Allen Ramseyer with the Hate Crimes Unit has been assigned to prosecute the case.
Alcarez is charged in case No XYZ with one count of premeditated murder and six counts each of attempted premeditated murder, with the special circumstances of murder to further a gang and murder based on race. A decision will be made at a later date on whether prosecutors will seek the death penalty.
On Friday, Cheryl Greene, 14, was fatally shot after a group of Latino gang members allegedly opened fire without provocation and Cheryl and a group of friends she was with. Three others sustained non-threatening gunshot wounds and three escaped injury. The shooting occurred in a Harbor Gateway neighborhood.
Based on circumstances of the crime and the past actions of the 204th Street gang, the case is being filed as a hate crime.
CS Commentary:
There's nothing gansta about shooting children or civilians. Nothing hard about it at all. Now Mr. "I'm not old enough to buy beer yet", is looking at the Death Penalty. What a moron? How long did this fool think he was going to last in the community, doing idiotic bitch moves like this.
Good luck kid! You'll never wear your own clothes again.
Everybody want's to be hard?
Charged with Murder, Hate Crime
December 26, 2006
LONG BEACH – A 20-year-old reputed gang member was charged today with capital murder and hate crime allegations in connection with the Dec. 15 fatal shooting of a 14-year-old African-American girl, the District Attorney’s office announced.
Ernesto Alcarez (who is stoopid), is scheduled to be arraigned sometime after 1:30 p.m. in Long Beach Superior Court, Dept. J, said Deputy District Attorney. Alcarez is being held without bail. Deputy District Attorney John Allen Ramseyer with the Hate Crimes Unit has been assigned to prosecute the case.
Alcarez is charged in case No XYZ with one count of premeditated murder and six counts each of attempted premeditated murder, with the special circumstances of murder to further a gang and murder based on race. A decision will be made at a later date on whether prosecutors will seek the death penalty.
On Friday, Cheryl Greene, 14, was fatally shot after a group of Latino gang members allegedly opened fire without provocation and Cheryl and a group of friends she was with. Three others sustained non-threatening gunshot wounds and three escaped injury. The shooting occurred in a Harbor Gateway neighborhood.
Based on circumstances of the crime and the past actions of the 204th Street gang, the case is being filed as a hate crime.
CS Commentary:
There's nothing gansta about shooting children or civilians. Nothing hard about it at all. Now Mr. "I'm not old enough to buy beer yet", is looking at the Death Penalty. What a moron? How long did this fool think he was going to last in the community, doing idiotic bitch moves like this.
Good luck kid! You'll never wear your own clothes again.
Everybody want's to be hard?
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by Common Sense » January 23rd, 2007, 2:01 pm
What do you guys think about the Holloween beatings of the three white women? Sometimes...I really don't understand the logic of some people. 10 people (including males) mobing women?????? Here we go again with soft targets. Everyone want's to be a badass bangin' or jumping on people that are most likely not going to do any damage back. If these three women would have looked like heroin meth addicts, holding shotguns and .38, the mob probably would have found reason to keep moving. What's really ignorant about the whole situation is, the black community is trying to deal with racism from the latin community, while some of it's on people are being racist towards the white community. You can't claim racial injustice and be racist at the same time???? If this would have happened to 3 black girls by 10 white youths, Al Sharpton would have been all over this in the media.
Victim describes beating
Crime: Woman, 21, vividly testifies about brutal Halloween attack in Bixby Knolls.
By Tracy Manzer, Staff writer
Long Beach Press Telegram
Article Launched:12/01/2006
LONG BEACH - A 21-year-old woman who had a dozen bones on one side of her face shattered during a Halloween attack testified in court Friday, recalling the beating in chilling detail.
The victim - who asked the Press-Telegram in previous interviews to be identified by only her first name, Loren, out of concern for her safety - was with two friends visiting a haunted house in Bixby Knolls when the three white women were attacked by a group of black youths. (Soft targets)
She appeared composed and confident while on the witness stand. The only moment that revealed any nervousness came as she stood next to a diagram where she was asked to note her position and the position of her friends and the attackers at the time of the beating.
As Deputy District Attorney Andrea Bouas and several defense attorneys stopped for a brief discussion, Loren nervously capped and uncapped a red marker as she waited for the prosecutor's questions to resume.
Loren's mother said outside court that the 21-year-old victim was horribly nervous about testifying, having never done it before.
Her daughter is also struggling with her extensive injuries, she said. A team of doctors, including two surgeons, are trying to determine how best to treat her dizzy spells and her drooping eye.
Several of her teeth have died and will have to be replaced with a partial plate. No one yet knows if she will regain the sight partially lost in the one eye.
She is studying photography, and her injuries forced her to drop all her college classes this year. Her injuries could destroy her dreams of pursuing a career as a professional photographer.
Loren was perhaps the most seriously hurt the night of the attack, which resulted in the arrest of 10 Long Beach youths - 9 girls and one boy, ages 12 to 19 - within moments of the 9:30 p.m. beating.
(what were these dumb kids thinking)
A few days later, police arrested two 17-year-old males, both from Long Beach. They have been charged with the same counts for which the 10 minors are currently being tried, or adjudicated as it is called in juvenile court.
The charge includes three felony counts of assault by any means of force to produce great bodily injury. Eight of the 10 minors currently in court had a hate crime enhancement added to their charges, and the two 17-year-old boys - whose adjudications are set for early January - also face the hate crime allegation.
All of the minors are black (which is the sad case of it), and witness statements that the youths shouted racial slurs while beating the three victims have resulted in community and nationwide outrage.
(well this sure helps with all the racist acts that's going toward the black community in Gateway Harbor area)
***Some people don't think, about their dumb actions, and how it affects the community at-large
Court proceedings so far have been slow, due in part to the difficulty of transporting the 10 minors to the Long Beach courthouse from various Los Angeles County juvenile detention centers.
Each minor has his or her own attorney, to avoid a conflict of interest, making for drawn-out arguments at times.
Friday's session, scheduled to begin at 1:30 p.m., started late after the prosecutor argued defense lawyers had violated Superior Court Judge Gibson Lee's order the previous day.
On Thursday, defense attorneys told reporters they changed the seating of the defendants. Until then, all the minors had sat directly behind their attorneys.
When the district attorney asked the first witness to take the stand to identify the minors in court Thursday, she matched the wrong police photograph to one of the girls in court.
Defense attorneys seized on the mistake. During cross examination the witness admitted the error, saying she could not see all of the defendants and therefore picked the wrong one. After further prompting, she said she based her identification the night of the arrest largely on what the minors were wearing, not their facial features.
Prior to the start of testimony Friday, Bouas argued that the defense attorneys had talked about moving the defendants but were told by the judge not to, according to bailiffs and officers in the closed courtroom.
The minors were rearranged anyway and Bouas accused the defense of running a "shell game," officers said.
Many of the defense attorneys became angry at the accusation, the officers said. They told the judge they did not know how the youths had been rearranged, but agreed to have the minors seated behind their assigned lawyer from now on.
"The judge stopped short of saying they violated an order," one officer said. "But he made it clear that it would not happen again."
All the officers spoke on condition of anonymity.
Once that matter was settled, the public was allowed into the courtroom and Bouas began with Loren's testimony.
Loren described how she and her friends began the night at her house, where they dressed in their costumes - she as Betty Boop, her friend Michelle as a pirate and her friend Laura as a vampire.
They had decided to go see the haunted house, located on Linden Avenue at the corner of Bixby Road, while they were waiting for a fourth friend to get off work. That was when they were all going to go to a costume party, she said.
When she and her friends arrived at the haunted house, she said, a young black male - whom she estimated to be 17 to 19 years old - was standing with a group of youths and began hollering "Are you with it?" at her and her friends while grabbing his crotch.
After the victims made their way through the haunted house and returned to the front yard where they had started, she noticed the crowd had grown larger and included girls and boys.
"He said, `Are you with it?' again," Loren testified. "He was loud, he was yelling."
The crowd was also getting louder and more boisterous and the victims could hear other things, she said.
"I heard them (say) something about the white people and `white b---."' Loren testified.
She described trying to walk away and being pelted with pumpkins and lemons. (walking away.....fools couldn't let it go) She was hit in the back of the head and in her back. The force was strong enough to cause pain, she recalled.
She also recalled seeing one of her friends - Laura - get hit in the back and in the legs. That is when her friend turned around and told the crowd to stop.
As Laura turned back toward Loren and Michelle, she said, she saw at least two girls grab that friend by her long hair and her dress and yank her backward.
(assault and battery...dumb)
"I heard one voice say, `I f------ hate white people,"' Loren testified.
It was a male voice that shouted the statement, loud enough to be heard over the shouting crowd, she said.
At about the same time she said she heard male and female voices saying, "white b---," and the group surged toward Laura, partially surrounding her friend and cutting off her access to Michelle and Loren.
Loren recalled yelling to Michelle that they were getting separated. Michelle was shouting back that she was calling 911 as she dialed her cell phone.
The victim described, and was asked to demonstrate, how her friend was knocked to the ground. Loren then recalled seeing a young man flip a skateboard he had at his side up over his head.
"I saw him flip it up and swing in the direction of Laura," she testified, describing the suspect as black, tall and with a medium build, adding that he was big but not overweight.
(do you need a skateboard to beat down a woman)
His hair was close to his head, in either braids or corn rows, she added.
Loren said she rushed back to Laura but was quickly surrounded by a group of about a dozen people, mostly girls. They circled her in two rows, one inside the other, she described.
She first felt someone kick the back of her leg, just below her knee, and her leg buckled. But she did not fall, the victim testified.
Punches to her face and the back of her head rained down on her, with more than one person hitting her and most of them girls, she said.
She felt her left cheek pop from the force of one extremely strong blow and assumed it was from a male.
She said she ducked her face and flailed her arms, trying to stop her attackers, but they continued beating her.
"I could feel the rhythm of one-two ... getting punched in the back of the head and the face," she recalled.
She was eventually knocked to the ground when she tried to flip open her cell phone to call for help, and it was knocked out of her hand, she said.
Many of them were girls, she said. Some were wearing sweaters with the Rocawear logo, several had braids and some wore hoop earrings, Loren testified.
Rocawear is a popular line of clothing created by rapper Jay-Z.
Curled in a ball on her knees, Loren said she wrapped her arms over her head and kept her legs tucked under her body. She could feel people pounding her with their fists and kicking her, striking her on top of her head, around her face, her back and up and down her body, she said.
"Once I hit the ground, I remember being kicked by what I thought was a man," she testified. "Because the force was so hard, and when I looked up I thought I could see ... male legs."
At one point, she peered out from under her arm and said she could see one of her friends laying on the ground.
"She was being stepped on," she testified. "It looked like males."
It didn't stop until a black man ran up and began pulling people off her, Loren said. She recalled him yelling at the youths to stop.
***Now this is a rightous and stand up balck man.
She said a young black woman grabbed her under her arms and helped her stand up, taking her closer to where her friends were standing.
The woman screamed for ice for the victim's swollen and bloody face as neighbors began to come forward, Loren recalled.
"I was bleeding really bad and grabbing at my nose," she said.
The police arrived first, followed by paramedics. Not long afterward, officers told her that they had found some people who might have been involved and wanted to drive her to a nearby parking lot to see if she could identify those people.
****Just plain dumb
The victims were taken in separate vehicles one at a time, Loren said.
She sat in a police SUV with an officer who wrote down what she said as a line of youths was asked to come forward one by one into the glare of several police headlights and search lights.
She said she immediately recognized the first person, a girl in a white shirt, and told the officer, "Yeah, that's the one that beat my friend. I think she was attacking Laura."
Loren explained in court that the reason she told the officer she thought it was the girl who attacked her friend, rather than say she knew it was the girl, was because she had been instructed to be as specific as possible.
She had seen the girl going toward Laura, she said.
"She was attacking Laura, but I wasn't positive she was punching her or pushing her," Loren explained.
She also said she wasn't able to identify all the minors arrested that night.
As the district attorney began to show the victim police photos taken of the 10 youths in the parking lot, several defense attorneys objected.
Showing the victim the photos before asking her to identify the minors in court would coach her into saying precisely what the prosecutor wanted, they argued.
The same objection was raised with the first witness to testify; an 18-year-old who was in the area with her baby, her friend and her younger sister at the time of the beating. As in the first witness' case, the judge overruled the objection but it was quickly followed by several others made by most of the 10 defense attorneys in court.
Judge Lee ended Friday's proceedings at that point, saying he would return to the issue next week. Court is expected to resume Monday at 1:30 p.m.
All of them need to be severly punished for their ignorant behavior and disrespect to the black community.
Victim describes beating
Crime: Woman, 21, vividly testifies about brutal Halloween attack in Bixby Knolls.
By Tracy Manzer, Staff writer
Long Beach Press Telegram
Article Launched:12/01/2006
LONG BEACH - A 21-year-old woman who had a dozen bones on one side of her face shattered during a Halloween attack testified in court Friday, recalling the beating in chilling detail.
The victim - who asked the Press-Telegram in previous interviews to be identified by only her first name, Loren, out of concern for her safety - was with two friends visiting a haunted house in Bixby Knolls when the three white women were attacked by a group of black youths. (Soft targets)
She appeared composed and confident while on the witness stand. The only moment that revealed any nervousness came as she stood next to a diagram where she was asked to note her position and the position of her friends and the attackers at the time of the beating.
As Deputy District Attorney Andrea Bouas and several defense attorneys stopped for a brief discussion, Loren nervously capped and uncapped a red marker as she waited for the prosecutor's questions to resume.
Loren's mother said outside court that the 21-year-old victim was horribly nervous about testifying, having never done it before.
Her daughter is also struggling with her extensive injuries, she said. A team of doctors, including two surgeons, are trying to determine how best to treat her dizzy spells and her drooping eye.
Several of her teeth have died and will have to be replaced with a partial plate. No one yet knows if she will regain the sight partially lost in the one eye.
She is studying photography, and her injuries forced her to drop all her college classes this year. Her injuries could destroy her dreams of pursuing a career as a professional photographer.
Loren was perhaps the most seriously hurt the night of the attack, which resulted in the arrest of 10 Long Beach youths - 9 girls and one boy, ages 12 to 19 - within moments of the 9:30 p.m. beating.
(what were these dumb kids thinking)
A few days later, police arrested two 17-year-old males, both from Long Beach. They have been charged with the same counts for which the 10 minors are currently being tried, or adjudicated as it is called in juvenile court.
The charge includes three felony counts of assault by any means of force to produce great bodily injury. Eight of the 10 minors currently in court had a hate crime enhancement added to their charges, and the two 17-year-old boys - whose adjudications are set for early January - also face the hate crime allegation.
All of the minors are black (which is the sad case of it), and witness statements that the youths shouted racial slurs while beating the three victims have resulted in community and nationwide outrage.
(well this sure helps with all the racist acts that's going toward the black community in Gateway Harbor area)
***Some people don't think, about their dumb actions, and how it affects the community at-large
Court proceedings so far have been slow, due in part to the difficulty of transporting the 10 minors to the Long Beach courthouse from various Los Angeles County juvenile detention centers.
Each minor has his or her own attorney, to avoid a conflict of interest, making for drawn-out arguments at times.
Friday's session, scheduled to begin at 1:30 p.m., started late after the prosecutor argued defense lawyers had violated Superior Court Judge Gibson Lee's order the previous day.
On Thursday, defense attorneys told reporters they changed the seating of the defendants. Until then, all the minors had sat directly behind their attorneys.
When the district attorney asked the first witness to take the stand to identify the minors in court Thursday, she matched the wrong police photograph to one of the girls in court.
Defense attorneys seized on the mistake. During cross examination the witness admitted the error, saying she could not see all of the defendants and therefore picked the wrong one. After further prompting, she said she based her identification the night of the arrest largely on what the minors were wearing, not their facial features.
Prior to the start of testimony Friday, Bouas argued that the defense attorneys had talked about moving the defendants but were told by the judge not to, according to bailiffs and officers in the closed courtroom.
The minors were rearranged anyway and Bouas accused the defense of running a "shell game," officers said.
Many of the defense attorneys became angry at the accusation, the officers said. They told the judge they did not know how the youths had been rearranged, but agreed to have the minors seated behind their assigned lawyer from now on.
"The judge stopped short of saying they violated an order," one officer said. "But he made it clear that it would not happen again."
All the officers spoke on condition of anonymity.
Once that matter was settled, the public was allowed into the courtroom and Bouas began with Loren's testimony.
Loren described how she and her friends began the night at her house, where they dressed in their costumes - she as Betty Boop, her friend Michelle as a pirate and her friend Laura as a vampire.
They had decided to go see the haunted house, located on Linden Avenue at the corner of Bixby Road, while they were waiting for a fourth friend to get off work. That was when they were all going to go to a costume party, she said.
When she and her friends arrived at the haunted house, she said, a young black male - whom she estimated to be 17 to 19 years old - was standing with a group of youths and began hollering "Are you with it?" at her and her friends while grabbing his crotch.
After the victims made their way through the haunted house and returned to the front yard where they had started, she noticed the crowd had grown larger and included girls and boys.
"He said, `Are you with it?' again," Loren testified. "He was loud, he was yelling."
The crowd was also getting louder and more boisterous and the victims could hear other things, she said.
"I heard them (say) something about the white people and `white b---."' Loren testified.
She described trying to walk away and being pelted with pumpkins and lemons. (walking away.....fools couldn't let it go) She was hit in the back of the head and in her back. The force was strong enough to cause pain, she recalled.
She also recalled seeing one of her friends - Laura - get hit in the back and in the legs. That is when her friend turned around and told the crowd to stop.
As Laura turned back toward Loren and Michelle, she said, she saw at least two girls grab that friend by her long hair and her dress and yank her backward.
(assault and battery...dumb)
"I heard one voice say, `I f------ hate white people,"' Loren testified.
It was a male voice that shouted the statement, loud enough to be heard over the shouting crowd, she said.
At about the same time she said she heard male and female voices saying, "white b---," and the group surged toward Laura, partially surrounding her friend and cutting off her access to Michelle and Loren.
Loren recalled yelling to Michelle that they were getting separated. Michelle was shouting back that she was calling 911 as she dialed her cell phone.
The victim described, and was asked to demonstrate, how her friend was knocked to the ground. Loren then recalled seeing a young man flip a skateboard he had at his side up over his head.
"I saw him flip it up and swing in the direction of Laura," she testified, describing the suspect as black, tall and with a medium build, adding that he was big but not overweight.
(do you need a skateboard to beat down a woman)
His hair was close to his head, in either braids or corn rows, she added.
Loren said she rushed back to Laura but was quickly surrounded by a group of about a dozen people, mostly girls. They circled her in two rows, one inside the other, she described.
She first felt someone kick the back of her leg, just below her knee, and her leg buckled. But she did not fall, the victim testified.
Punches to her face and the back of her head rained down on her, with more than one person hitting her and most of them girls, she said.
She felt her left cheek pop from the force of one extremely strong blow and assumed it was from a male.
She said she ducked her face and flailed her arms, trying to stop her attackers, but they continued beating her.
"I could feel the rhythm of one-two ... getting punched in the back of the head and the face," she recalled.
She was eventually knocked to the ground when she tried to flip open her cell phone to call for help, and it was knocked out of her hand, she said.
Many of them were girls, she said. Some were wearing sweaters with the Rocawear logo, several had braids and some wore hoop earrings, Loren testified.
Rocawear is a popular line of clothing created by rapper Jay-Z.
Curled in a ball on her knees, Loren said she wrapped her arms over her head and kept her legs tucked under her body. She could feel people pounding her with their fists and kicking her, striking her on top of her head, around her face, her back and up and down her body, she said.
"Once I hit the ground, I remember being kicked by what I thought was a man," she testified. "Because the force was so hard, and when I looked up I thought I could see ... male legs."
At one point, she peered out from under her arm and said she could see one of her friends laying on the ground.
"She was being stepped on," she testified. "It looked like males."
It didn't stop until a black man ran up and began pulling people off her, Loren said. She recalled him yelling at the youths to stop.
***Now this is a rightous and stand up balck man.
She said a young black woman grabbed her under her arms and helped her stand up, taking her closer to where her friends were standing.
The woman screamed for ice for the victim's swollen and bloody face as neighbors began to come forward, Loren recalled.
"I was bleeding really bad and grabbing at my nose," she said.
The police arrived first, followed by paramedics. Not long afterward, officers told her that they had found some people who might have been involved and wanted to drive her to a nearby parking lot to see if she could identify those people.
****Just plain dumb
The victims were taken in separate vehicles one at a time, Loren said.
She sat in a police SUV with an officer who wrote down what she said as a line of youths was asked to come forward one by one into the glare of several police headlights and search lights.
She said she immediately recognized the first person, a girl in a white shirt, and told the officer, "Yeah, that's the one that beat my friend. I think she was attacking Laura."
Loren explained in court that the reason she told the officer she thought it was the girl who attacked her friend, rather than say she knew it was the girl, was because she had been instructed to be as specific as possible.
She had seen the girl going toward Laura, she said.
"She was attacking Laura, but I wasn't positive she was punching her or pushing her," Loren explained.
She also said she wasn't able to identify all the minors arrested that night.
As the district attorney began to show the victim police photos taken of the 10 youths in the parking lot, several defense attorneys objected.
Showing the victim the photos before asking her to identify the minors in court would coach her into saying precisely what the prosecutor wanted, they argued.
The same objection was raised with the first witness to testify; an 18-year-old who was in the area with her baby, her friend and her younger sister at the time of the beating. As in the first witness' case, the judge overruled the objection but it was quickly followed by several others made by most of the 10 defense attorneys in court.
Judge Lee ended Friday's proceedings at that point, saying he would return to the issue next week. Court is expected to resume Monday at 1:30 p.m.
All of them need to be severly punished for their ignorant behavior and disrespect to the black community.
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by Common Sense » February 5th, 2007, 1:48 pm
Hispanic Girls Say They Were Beaten by Blacks
February 4, 2007
Inglewood - Three Hispanic teens say they were attacked last week by more than a dozen African-Americans and at least one of the attackers shouted racist slurs in Inglewood.
At a news conference Saturday, the girls - ages 16, 17 and 18 - said they were held down and kicked on a sidewalk across the street from the Inglewood Unified School District offices Wednesday afternoon. Two of them suffered injuries requiring outpatient hospital treatment.
Twenty-four-year old Marisol of Los Angeles, a relative of one of the girls, criticized the Inglewood Police Department for its failure to investigate aggressively or seek witnesses.
Inglewood police chief Kevin Scroggins says he learned of the allegations Saturday and questioned why city police didn't notify his agency. He said his officers are now looking into the allegations.
Officials say detectives are investigating the case.
February 4, 2007
Inglewood - Three Hispanic teens say they were attacked last week by more than a dozen African-Americans and at least one of the attackers shouted racist slurs in Inglewood.
At a news conference Saturday, the girls - ages 16, 17 and 18 - said they were held down and kicked on a sidewalk across the street from the Inglewood Unified School District offices Wednesday afternoon. Two of them suffered injuries requiring outpatient hospital treatment.
Twenty-four-year old Marisol of Los Angeles, a relative of one of the girls, criticized the Inglewood Police Department for its failure to investigate aggressively or seek witnesses.
Inglewood police chief Kevin Scroggins says he learned of the allegations Saturday and questioned why city police didn't notify his agency. He said his officers are now looking into the allegations.
Officials say detectives are investigating the case.
The quality, not the longevity, of one's life is what's important....MLKjr.
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by Common Sense » February 5th, 2007, 2:03 pm
One Wounded in South L.A. Officer-Involved Shooting
February 3, 2007 -
Los Angeles
LAPD Chief William Bratton and Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa vowed Saturday to crack down on gang violence and partially blamed a spate of officer-involved shootings on dropouts from the city's beleaguered public school system.
Anthony Dale Lovell, 21, of South Gate was shot and critically wounded Friday night after opening fire on two plain-clothed police officers in South Los Angeles, police said Saturday. Police said Lovell -- allegedly a member of the South Side Players gang -- was being treated for six bullet wounds at California Hospital and was expected to survive.
Lovell allegedly ran across four lanes of traffic on Figueroa Street near 46th Street toward the officers, firing five shots Friday night around 10. Both officers fired back and say that Lovell kept shooting after they identified themselves as police officers. Neither officer was wounded.
Officers Michael and Danny say Lovell was shouting, 'Where are you from?' -- a common refrain before shootings, meaning what gang are you from?
Standing in front of the officers' bullet-riddled Buick, Bratton and Villaraigosa said gang violence was on the rise, and that already this year two police officers have been shot and there have been eight officer-involved shootings.
In 2006, there were 23 officer-involved shootings in Los Angeles and three officers shot, police said Saturday. If this year's numbers continue at the current rate, the number of officer-involved shootings would increase five- fold.
Bratton and Villaraigosa said they would unveil new strategies next week to curb gang violence, but would not provide details of the plans.
"We will not tolerate more violent attacks on innocent Angelenos, and certainly not tolerate violent attacks on the brave men and women of the Los Angeles Police Department," Villaraigosa said.
Both Bratton and Villaraigosa said the rise of gang violence was partly to blame on school dropouts.
"We think it's a combination of factors," Bratton said. "One, that the supply of firearms is still too readily available in the city, in the hands of too many young people who are dropouts of the school system and who have basically too much time on their hands. And secondly, we're always concerned with recidivism issues. They go in jail, come back out and can't find jobs."
Villaraigosa -- who has been fighting to partially take over the Los Angeles Unified School District -- said there was a "real connection between the failure in our schools, the lack of graduates, kids with skills and the number of people we see in gangs and the gang violence that you see."
Officers Michael and Danny were patrolling the area in an unmarked car Friday night when they recognized Lovell as a gang member, police said. Lovell was standing outside an apartment building with two other young men and they pulled over to watch him.
The two other men were detained, but did not fire any shots and would likely not be charged, Cmdr. Patrick Gannon said. A fourth man was arrested once officers cordoned off the area and will be charged with a parole violation, he said. (Now this man is going back to prison because of that other idiot acting like a fool)
A 9 mm pistol was recovered near the scene of the shooting, which was scoured by officers, police dogs and a helicopter.
CS Commentary:
Everybody wants to be hard. A sign of the times? Now this idiot is in the hospital, nursing his 6 gunshot wounds, soon to be facing attempted murder of a police officer. dumb, dumb, DUMB.......
February 3, 2007 -
Los Angeles
LAPD Chief William Bratton and Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa vowed Saturday to crack down on gang violence and partially blamed a spate of officer-involved shootings on dropouts from the city's beleaguered public school system.
Anthony Dale Lovell, 21, of South Gate was shot and critically wounded Friday night after opening fire on two plain-clothed police officers in South Los Angeles, police said Saturday. Police said Lovell -- allegedly a member of the South Side Players gang -- was being treated for six bullet wounds at California Hospital and was expected to survive.
Lovell allegedly ran across four lanes of traffic on Figueroa Street near 46th Street toward the officers, firing five shots Friday night around 10. Both officers fired back and say that Lovell kept shooting after they identified themselves as police officers. Neither officer was wounded.
Officers Michael and Danny say Lovell was shouting, 'Where are you from?' -- a common refrain before shootings, meaning what gang are you from?
Standing in front of the officers' bullet-riddled Buick, Bratton and Villaraigosa said gang violence was on the rise, and that already this year two police officers have been shot and there have been eight officer-involved shootings.
In 2006, there were 23 officer-involved shootings in Los Angeles and three officers shot, police said Saturday. If this year's numbers continue at the current rate, the number of officer-involved shootings would increase five- fold.
Bratton and Villaraigosa said they would unveil new strategies next week to curb gang violence, but would not provide details of the plans.
"We will not tolerate more violent attacks on innocent Angelenos, and certainly not tolerate violent attacks on the brave men and women of the Los Angeles Police Department," Villaraigosa said.
Both Bratton and Villaraigosa said the rise of gang violence was partly to blame on school dropouts.
"We think it's a combination of factors," Bratton said. "One, that the supply of firearms is still too readily available in the city, in the hands of too many young people who are dropouts of the school system and who have basically too much time on their hands. And secondly, we're always concerned with recidivism issues. They go in jail, come back out and can't find jobs."
Villaraigosa -- who has been fighting to partially take over the Los Angeles Unified School District -- said there was a "real connection between the failure in our schools, the lack of graduates, kids with skills and the number of people we see in gangs and the gang violence that you see."
Officers Michael and Danny were patrolling the area in an unmarked car Friday night when they recognized Lovell as a gang member, police said. Lovell was standing outside an apartment building with two other young men and they pulled over to watch him.
The two other men were detained, but did not fire any shots and would likely not be charged, Cmdr. Patrick Gannon said. A fourth man was arrested once officers cordoned off the area and will be charged with a parole violation, he said. (Now this man is going back to prison because of that other idiot acting like a fool)
A 9 mm pistol was recovered near the scene of the shooting, which was scoured by officers, police dogs and a helicopter.
CS Commentary:
Everybody wants to be hard. A sign of the times? Now this idiot is in the hospital, nursing his 6 gunshot wounds, soon to be facing attempted murder of a police officer. dumb, dumb, DUMB.......
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by George » February 8th, 2007, 6:40 am
SiNN702 wrote:Damn them niggas is stupid as fu--. Oh well another one bites the dust.
You just quoted a Queen song ^^^, and you probably don't even know who Queen is or like them lol..
Once you see the bigger picture, it all makes sense we are screwed in the Land of the "free" plus our children, and our childrens children. Until the end of time.
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by Noog » February 8th, 2007, 7:47 am
its a brave new world of damaged children suffering epedemics of post traumatic stress, with minds chemically warped by sniff & smoke, in environments where surviving has to be mediated by casual violence or sink. Jah bless us all.
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by Noog » February 8th, 2007, 7:47 am
its a brave new world of damaged children suffering epedemics of post traumatic stress, with minds chemically warped by sniff & smoke, in environments where surviving has to be mediated by casual violence or sink. Jah bless us all.
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by Common Sense » February 26th, 2007, 6:54 pm
5 charged in Gateway slaying linked to murder of 14-year-old Cheryl Green. Authorities say suspected gang members killed an "associate" who they thought had snitched about killing.
February 24, 2007
By Denise Nix
STAFF WRITER
Los Angeles
Five Harbor Gateway suspected gang members were charged with capital murder Friday in the stabbing death of a friend who they believe snitched to the police about their alleged role in the slaying of 14-year-old Cheryl Green.
One of the five, Jonathan Fajardo, 18, already is charged with Cheryl's murder, which authorities say was racially motivated. Also charged with her murder is Ernesto Alcarez, 20.
The new charges stem from the Dec. 28 slaying of Christopher Ash, 25, whose body was found lying in a Carson street with 80 stab wounds and his throat cut open. (This is how they treat their boy, who was down ????)
Ash was an "associate" of members of the 204th Street-based Latino gang, whose members gained notoriety for killing Cheryl, a black eighth-grader, authorities said. (Nothing hard about gunning down a school girl
)
"The people that murdered him were under the ... mistaken belief that he had snitched on the Cheryl Green case, and he didn't," said sheriff's homicide Detective Angus Ferguson, who is heading Ash's murder investigation. (dumb, duMB, and DUMB)
Ash may have hung out with the gang members, Ferguson said, but he did not participate in their crime sprees or even have a moniker -- a nickname that gang members use.
"He was brutally murdered for no other reason than they thought he talked to the cops, and he didn't deserve that," Ferguson said.
However, Los Angeles police detectives working on Cheryl's murder case believe Ash did have knowledge about Cheryl's murder. He was arrested Dec. 21 at his home in connection with that case.
His residence was a known hangout for the 204th Street gang, according to Los Angeles police Lt. Roger Murphy, commander of the Harbor Division's gang unit. (Gulty by affiliation, especially shooting down school girls)
Ash was questioned and released, Murphy said. But Alcarez, who was at Ash's home when the warrant was served, was arrested and remains in custody. Police believe he served as the lookout when Fajardo shot Cheryl. (What goes around comes around) (He's got his too, but much worse)
Fajardo was being sought at that point, and was arrested Jan. 4. Both are scheduled to be arraigned March 8 on capital murder charges in Cheryl's killing. (He's going to get the death penalty..watch. The the is going to make an example out of this fool)
"I don't want to give the impression that this was a cooperating witness -- someone from the community that came forward and was struck down by the gang," Murphy said of Ash. "He was believed, at one point, to be a co-conspirator."
Ash was killed by his friends (some friends ), Murphy said, because they apparently also believed he had knowledge about Cheryl's murder.
Also charged Friday were Jose Covarrubias, 20 (who is stupid), Robert Gonzalez, 29 (who is dumber than Jose), Raul Silva, 31 (who is dumber than both of them, he's the oldest. Ya think he would have some sense), and Daniel Aguilar, 19 (no brain of his own.... A follower, a prime age for a prison sex assault).
Covarrubias was featured prominently in a Jan. 29 New York Times article about racial tensions in the gang-infested area.
Cheryl was killed as she stood with a group of black friends in the neighborhood rife with racial tension.
Her slaying prompted peace rallies, calls for a truce, and intervention by public officials and law enforcement agencies seeking to find a way to end the violence.
The Times article, which focused on police efforts to curb gang activities, reported that Covarrubias was arrested on drug charges Jan. 28.
Murphy said Covarrubias had been "a person of interest" in the Ash murder investigation, but was released in the early stages.
Covarrubias was arrested Tuesday in Iowa (now that's gangsta....running for the hills), where he has family (like they are not going to look where he has family....dumb), and has agreed to extradition (that's even dumber). The others were either already in custody or were arrested after the murder case was filed Tuesday.
The defendants were charged with murder and the special circumstances of murdering a witness to a crime, lying in wait, being active participants of a criminal street gang and committing murder to further the gang's activities.
The special circumstances make all five eligible for the death penalty (which there gonna get for Christmas), but prosecutors will decide later whether to seek death for any or all of them.
The complaint also alleges that Covarrubias and Gonzales personally used a knife to commit the murder.
Prosecutors declined to elaborate further on the case.
"We have a dead person, and we have five people charged with that murder, and that's what we're concentrating on," said district's attorney spokeswoman Sandi Gibbons.
No...... what we have here,...is 5 stupid idiots that were in the clear. The cops already had their 2 scapegoats, that were gonna go down for life anyway. These fools all could have started fresh, and lived out there lives, but Nooooooo, foools gotz to be gangsta, now all 5 of their dumb azz's are looking at the death penalty in March. Not worth it. Drove throogh their hood today. People are going about their lives, and not giving a damn about those 7 fools locked up.
The moral here is: Life goes on with or without you.
All five are scheduled to be arraigned Monday in Long Beach Superior Court. (There gonna get roasted.....
)
Find this article at:
http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/articles/6061126.html
February 24, 2007
By Denise Nix
STAFF WRITER
Los Angeles
Five Harbor Gateway suspected gang members were charged with capital murder Friday in the stabbing death of a friend who they believe snitched to the police about their alleged role in the slaying of 14-year-old Cheryl Green.
One of the five, Jonathan Fajardo, 18, already is charged with Cheryl's murder, which authorities say was racially motivated. Also charged with her murder is Ernesto Alcarez, 20.
The new charges stem from the Dec. 28 slaying of Christopher Ash, 25, whose body was found lying in a Carson street with 80 stab wounds and his throat cut open. (This is how they treat their boy, who was down
????)
Ash was an "associate" of members of the 204th Street-based Latino gang, whose members gained notoriety for killing Cheryl, a black eighth-grader, authorities said. (Nothing hard about gunning down a school girl
)
"The people that murdered him were under the ... mistaken belief that he had snitched on the Cheryl Green case, and he didn't," said sheriff's homicide Detective Angus Ferguson, who is heading Ash's murder investigation. (dumb, duMB, and DUMB)
Ash may have hung out with the gang members, Ferguson said, but he did not participate in their crime sprees or even have a moniker -- a nickname that gang members use.
"He was brutally murdered for no other reason than they thought he talked to the cops, and he didn't deserve that," Ferguson said.
However, Los Angeles police detectives working on Cheryl's murder case believe Ash did have knowledge about Cheryl's murder. He was arrested Dec. 21 at his home in connection with that case.
His residence was a known hangout for the 204th Street gang, according to Los Angeles police Lt. Roger Murphy, commander of the Harbor Division's gang unit. (Gulty by affiliation, especially shooting down school girls)
Ash was questioned and released, Murphy said. But Alcarez, who was at Ash's home when the warrant was served, was arrested and remains in custody. Police believe he served as the lookout when Fajardo shot Cheryl. (What goes around comes around) (He's got his too, but much worse)
Fajardo was being sought at that point, and was arrested Jan. 4. Both are scheduled to be arraigned March 8 on capital murder charges in Cheryl's killing. (He's going to get the death penalty..watch. The the is going to make an example out of this fool)
"I don't want to give the impression that this was a cooperating witness -- someone from the community that came forward and was struck down by the gang," Murphy said of Ash. "He was believed, at one point, to be a co-conspirator."
Ash was killed by his friends (some friends
), Murphy said, because they apparently also believed he had knowledge about Cheryl's murder.
Also charged Friday were Jose Covarrubias, 20 (who is stupid), Robert Gonzalez, 29 (who is dumber than Jose), Raul Silva, 31 (who is dumber than both of them, he's the oldest. Ya think he would have some sense), and Daniel Aguilar, 19 (no brain of his own.... A follower, a prime age for a prison sex assault).
Covarrubias was featured prominently in a Jan. 29 New York Times article about racial tensions in the gang-infested area.
Cheryl was killed as she stood with a group of black friends in the neighborhood rife with racial tension.
Her slaying prompted peace rallies, calls for a truce, and intervention by public officials and law enforcement agencies seeking to find a way to end the violence.
The Times article, which focused on police efforts to curb gang activities, reported that Covarrubias was arrested on drug charges Jan. 28.
Murphy said Covarrubias had been "a person of interest" in the Ash murder investigation, but was released in the early stages.
Covarrubias was arrested Tuesday in Iowa (now that's gangsta....running for the hills), where he has family (like they are not going to look where he has family....dumb), and has agreed to extradition (that's even dumber). The others were either already in custody or were arrested after the murder case was filed Tuesday.
The defendants were charged with murder and the special circumstances of murdering a witness to a crime, lying in wait, being active participants of a criminal street gang and committing murder to further the gang's activities.
The special circumstances make all five eligible for the death penalty (which there gonna get for Christmas), but prosecutors will decide later whether to seek death for any or all of them.
The complaint also alleges that Covarrubias and Gonzales personally used a knife to commit the murder.
Prosecutors declined to elaborate further on the case.
"We have a dead person, and we have five people charged with that murder, and that's what we're concentrating on," said district's attorney spokeswoman Sandi Gibbons.
No...... what we have here,...is 5 stupid idiots that were in the clear. The cops already had their 2 scapegoats, that were gonna go down for life anyway. These fools all could have started fresh, and lived out there lives, but Nooooooo, foools gotz to be gangsta, now all 5 of their dumb azz's are looking at the death penalty in March. Not worth it. Drove throogh their hood today. People are going about their lives, and not giving a damn about those 7 fools locked up.
The moral here is: Life goes on with or without you.
All five are scheduled to be arraigned Monday in Long Beach Superior Court. (There gonna get roasted.....
)
Find this article at:
http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/articles/6061126.html
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by Common Sense » May 30th, 2007, 2:22 pm
[align=center]Three Gang Members Charged In Triple Murder[/align]
By Richard Winton
L.A. Times Staff Writer
April 23, 2007
Prosecutors charged three black gang members today with killing two Latino boys and an adult as they talked in the frontyard of their South Los Angeles home last year, saying the assailants picked the victims at random because they could not find any gang rivals to shoot. (Now that's gangsta :roll: Can't find any ridah's, so let's go for soft targets)
The charges cap a nearly one-year investigation, with detectives concluding that the members of the Rollin' 30s gang fired on the victims -- who had no gang ties -- while driving around the neighborhood looking for members of another gang, the Eastside Treys.
The shooting stirred concerns about race-related violence in South L.A., especially at a time when the LAPD says that race-motivated gang crimes are on the increase. But the Los Angeles Police Department insists that the shooting was not race-motivated, rather it was fueled by a gang feud.
The gunmen -- identified as Ryan T. Moore, Lawrence William Island Jr. and Charles Ray Smith -- fired more than 30 rounds from two AK-47 assault rifles on a June 30 afternoon after climbing out of a vehicle. (shooting AK's at 12 noon?????, that's real smart.......beggin' to get caught, battered and fried). (ultra retarded move)
(these fools probably really thought no one was going to hear or see them firing loud military assault weapons in broad daylight...... )
David Marcial, 10; his 22-year-old uncle, Larry Marcial; and a neighbor, Luis Cervantes, 17, were fatally shot outside their families' homes in the 1100 block of East 49th Street.
David's brother, Sergio Marcial Jr., 12, was wounded but survived the shooting described by investigators as an "execution."
Moore, 33, and Island, 24, were to be arraigned this afternoon downtown. Smith, 37, is a fugitive wanted on a murder arrest warrant. (damn near 40 years old, still out in the streets actin' a fool..........foolio deserves to be put away for life just for being stooopid)
Each of the three faces three counts of murder, with the special circumstance of multiple murder and murder to further a gang, and one count each of attempted premeditated murder.
(these ignorant fools are going to get the death penalty.........brilliant)
Jane Robison, a spokeswoman for the district attorney's office, said a decision on whether to seek the death penalty will be made by prosecutors later.
Both Moore and Smith have been in custody for several months on other charges while detectives tried to build a case.
The Rollin' 30s is one of the top 11 gangs being targeted by the LAPD as part of a wider push against gang violence in the city.
Dubbed the "49th Street massacre" by Chief William J. Bratton last summer, detectives determined that what at first looked like a drive-up shooting now appeared to be a calculated, execution-style slaying. They concluded that the gunmen got out of a car and approached each of the victims, firing from point-blank range with AK-47 assault-style rifles.
(that's gangsta????? unarmed scared civilians?????)
"These were not gang members. These were just kids," Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa said in announcing a $105,000 reward in the killings. "It is just absolutely obscene that people would just shoot kids this way -- with automatic weapons, multiple times, even when they were on the ground. It's outrageous," he said.
(that's so scandelous and punkish).
Some of these gangs need to start requiring h.s. diploma's or some other equivilent credential, because most of these fools I read about, are beyond brain dead.
By Richard Winton
L.A. Times Staff Writer
April 23, 2007
Prosecutors charged three black gang members today with killing two Latino boys and an adult as they talked in the frontyard of their South Los Angeles home last year, saying the assailants picked the victims at random because they could not find any gang rivals to shoot. (Now that's gangsta :roll: Can't find any ridah's, so let's go for soft targets)
The charges cap a nearly one-year investigation, with detectives concluding that the members of the Rollin' 30s gang fired on the victims -- who had no gang ties -- while driving around the neighborhood looking for members of another gang, the Eastside Treys.
The shooting stirred concerns about race-related violence in South L.A., especially at a time when the LAPD says that race-motivated gang crimes are on the increase. But the Los Angeles Police Department insists that the shooting was not race-motivated, rather it was fueled by a gang feud.
The gunmen -- identified as Ryan T. Moore, Lawrence William Island Jr. and Charles Ray Smith -- fired more than 30 rounds from two AK-47 assault rifles on a June 30 afternoon after climbing out of a vehicle. (shooting AK's at 12 noon?????, that's real smart.......beggin' to get caught, battered and fried). (ultra retarded move)
(these fools probably really thought no one was going to hear or see them firing loud military assault weapons in broad daylight......
)
David Marcial, 10; his 22-year-old uncle, Larry Marcial; and a neighbor, Luis Cervantes, 17, were fatally shot outside their families' homes in the 1100 block of East 49th Street.
David's brother, Sergio Marcial Jr., 12, was wounded but survived the shooting described by investigators as an "execution."
Moore, 33, and Island, 24, were to be arraigned this afternoon downtown. Smith, 37, is a fugitive wanted on a murder arrest warrant. (damn near 40 years old, still out in the streets actin' a fool..........foolio deserves to be put away for life just for being stooopid)
Each of the three faces three counts of murder, with the special circumstance of multiple murder and murder to further a gang, and one count each of attempted premeditated murder.
(these ignorant fools are going to get the death penalty.........brilliant)
Jane Robison, a spokeswoman for the district attorney's office, said a decision on whether to seek the death penalty will be made by prosecutors later.
Both Moore and Smith have been in custody for several months on other charges while detectives tried to build a case.
The Rollin' 30s is one of the top 11 gangs being targeted by the LAPD as part of a wider push against gang violence in the city.
Dubbed the "49th Street massacre" by Chief William J. Bratton last summer, detectives determined that what at first looked like a drive-up shooting now appeared to be a calculated, execution-style slaying. They concluded that the gunmen got out of a car and approached each of the victims, firing from point-blank range with AK-47 assault-style rifles.
(that's gangsta????? unarmed scared civilians?????)
"These were not gang members. These were just kids," Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa said in announcing a $105,000 reward in the killings. "It is just absolutely obscene that people would just shoot kids this way -- with automatic weapons, multiple times, even when they were on the ground. It's outrageous," he said.
(that's so scandelous and punkish).
Some of these gangs need to start requiring h.s. diploma's or some other equivilent credential, because most of these fools I read about, are beyond brain dead.
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by Common Sense » September 4th, 2007, 8:01 pm
Texas Gov. Spares Inmate's Life Hours Before Death
Kenneth Foster Was Convicted Of Capital Murder, But Never Pulled Trigger
(AP) HUNTSVILLE, Texas
Gov. Rick Perry accepted a recommendation from the state parole board and said Thursday he would spare condemned prisoner Kenneth Foster from execution and commute his sentence to life.
Foster had been scheduled to die Thursday evening.
"After carefully considering the facts of this case, along with the recommendation from the Board of Pardons and Paroles, I believe the right and just decision is to commute Foster's sentence from the death penalty to life imprisonment," Perry said in a statement.
"I am concerned about Texas law that allowed capital murder defendants to be tried simultaneously and it is an issue I think the legislature should examine."
The seven-member parole board had voted 6-1 to recommend the commutation.
Perry was not obligated to accept the highly unusual recommendation from the board whose members he appoints. The commutation is the first in his more than eight years in office this close to an actual execution. The board decision was announced about seven hours before Foster was scheduled to die. Perry's announcement came about an hour later.
Foster was the getaway driver and not the actual shooter in the slaying of a 25-year-old man in San Antonio 11 years ago.
Foster acknowledged he and his friends were up to no good as he drove them around San Antonio in a rental car and robbed at least four people before the slaying of Michael LaHood Jr.
"It was wrong," Foster, 30, said recently from death row. "I don't want to downplay that. I was wrong for that. "I was too much of a follower". I'm straight up about that."
Their robbery spree, while they were all high on alcohol and marijuana, turned deadly when Foster followed LaHood and his girlfriend to LaHood's home about 2 a.m. Aug. 15, 1996. One of Foster's passengers, Mauriceo Brown (who got executed already), jumped out, walked up to LaHood, demanded his wallet and car keys, then opened fire when LaHood, 25, couldn't produce them. LaHood, shot through the eye, died instantly.
Brown ran back to Foster's car and they sped away. Less than an hour later, Foster was pulled over for speeding and driving erratically. Foster, Brown, Dwayne Dillard and Julius Steen -- all on probation and members of a street gang they called the Hoover 94 Crips -- were arrested for LaHood's slaying.
Brown and Foster, tried together, were convicted of capital murder and sentenced to death. Foster was set to die 13 months after Brown, 31, was strapped to the same death chamber gurney in Huntsville for lethal injection.
Foster's execution would have made him the third Texas prisoner executed in as many days and the 24th this year in the nation's most active capital punishment state. On Wednesday evening, John Joe Amador, 32, was put to death for the slaying of a San Antonio taxi driver 13 1/2 years ago.
Foster's scheduled execution piqued death penalty opponents who criticized his conviction and sentence under Texas' law of parties, which makes non-triggermen equally accountable for the crime. Foster would join a number of other condemned prisoners executed under the statute, including one put to death earlier this year.
"This is a new low for Texas," said Larry Cox, executive director of Amnesty International USA, a human rights organization that opposes the death penalty in all cases. "Allowing his life to be taken is a shocking perversion of the law."
Foster's lawyers were arguing in the courts that statements from Dillard and Steen, who were in Foster's car that night, clarify and provide new evidence that support Foster when he says he didn't know Brown was going to try to rob and shoot LaHood.
"I didn't kill anybody," Foster insisted from death row. "I screwed up. I went down the wrong path. I fault myself for being in this messed-up system."
Foster said he was some 80 feet away from the shooting.
"It's hard for you to anticipate how Brown is going to react," Foster said. "Texas is saying flat out: You should have known better.
"In life, we have hindsight. Texas is saying you better have foresight. They're saying you better be psychic."
Dillard now is serving life for killing a taxi driver across the street from the Alamo two weeks before LaHood's slaying. Steen testified at Brown's trial and received a life sentence in a plea bargain.
Brown testified at his trial the shooting was in self-defense, that he believed LaHood had a gun. Authorities, however, never found another weapon near LaHood's body. Foster did not testify.
"I thought what (Brown) said was good enough," he said from death row.
Mike Ramos, among the Bexar County prosecutors handling the case when it went to trial, said he found Foster's claims unbelievable and was irritated by a publicity effort to spare Foster.
"When you let somebody out of your car with a loaded handgun, what do you expect?" Ramos said. "If he didn't realize it could happen, I think he's a liar."
Last weekend a group of Foster supporters picketed outside an Austin church Gov. Rick Perry attends.
"These guys are rewriting history," Ramos said. "He was far from any kind of angel they're trying to portray."
Ramos said it was clear to him that Foster was "the puppet master pulling all the strings" during the robbery spree.
Nico LaHood, whose brother was killed, said Wednesday he was frustrated that people were willing to believe only Foster's story, which he called "ridiculous and not true."
"I don't know what dynamics are going on that allow us to make the person who is the wrongdoer to become the victim in this case," LaHood said. His brother, he said, was being "lost in the whole thing."
On Wednesday, Amador asked for forgiveness for himself and peace "for people seeking revenge toward me," then was put to death for the fatal shooting of San Antonio taxi driver Mohammad Reza Ayari.
Another execution, the first of five scheduled for September in Texas, is set for next week when South Carolina native Tony Roach faces injection Wednesday for the strangling of an Amarillo woman, Ronnie Dawn Hewitt, 37, during a burglary of her apartment nine years ago.
Kenneth Foster Was Convicted Of Capital Murder, But Never Pulled Trigger
(AP) HUNTSVILLE, Texas
Gov. Rick Perry accepted a recommendation from the state parole board and said Thursday he would spare condemned prisoner Kenneth Foster from execution and commute his sentence to life.
Foster had been scheduled to die Thursday evening.
"After carefully considering the facts of this case, along with the recommendation from the Board of Pardons and Paroles, I believe the right and just decision is to commute Foster's sentence from the death penalty to life imprisonment," Perry said in a statement.
"I am concerned about Texas law that allowed capital murder defendants to be tried simultaneously and it is an issue I think the legislature should examine."
The seven-member parole board had voted 6-1 to recommend the commutation.
Perry was not obligated to accept the highly unusual recommendation from the board whose members he appoints. The commutation is the first in his more than eight years in office this close to an actual execution. The board decision was announced about seven hours before Foster was scheduled to die. Perry's announcement came about an hour later.
Foster was the getaway driver and not the actual shooter in the slaying of a 25-year-old man in San Antonio 11 years ago.
Foster acknowledged he and his friends were up to no good as he drove them around San Antonio in a rental car and robbed at least four people before the slaying of Michael LaHood Jr.
"It was wrong," Foster, 30, said recently from death row. "I don't want to downplay that. I was wrong for that. "I was too much of a follower". I'm straight up about that."
Their robbery spree, while they were all high on alcohol and marijuana, turned deadly when Foster followed LaHood and his girlfriend to LaHood's home about 2 a.m. Aug. 15, 1996. One of Foster's passengers, Mauriceo Brown (who got executed already), jumped out, walked up to LaHood, demanded his wallet and car keys, then opened fire when LaHood, 25, couldn't produce them. LaHood, shot through the eye, died instantly.
Brown ran back to Foster's car and they sped away. Less than an hour later, Foster was pulled over for speeding and driving erratically. Foster, Brown, Dwayne Dillard and Julius Steen -- all on probation and members of a street gang they called the Hoover 94 Crips -- were arrested for LaHood's slaying.
Brown and Foster, tried together, were convicted of capital murder and sentenced to death. Foster was set to die 13 months after Brown, 31, was strapped to the same death chamber gurney in Huntsville for lethal injection.
Foster's execution would have made him the third Texas prisoner executed in as many days and the 24th this year in the nation's most active capital punishment state. On Wednesday evening, John Joe Amador, 32, was put to death for the slaying of a San Antonio taxi driver 13 1/2 years ago.
Foster's scheduled execution piqued death penalty opponents who criticized his conviction and sentence under Texas' law of parties, which makes non-triggermen equally accountable for the crime. Foster would join a number of other condemned prisoners executed under the statute, including one put to death earlier this year.
"This is a new low for Texas," said Larry Cox, executive director of Amnesty International USA, a human rights organization that opposes the death penalty in all cases. "Allowing his life to be taken is a shocking perversion of the law."
Foster's lawyers were arguing in the courts that statements from Dillard and Steen, who were in Foster's car that night, clarify and provide new evidence that support Foster when he says he didn't know Brown was going to try to rob and shoot LaHood.
"I didn't kill anybody," Foster insisted from death row. "I screwed up. I went down the wrong path. I fault myself for being in this messed-up system."
Foster said he was some 80 feet away from the shooting.
"It's hard for you to anticipate how Brown is going to react," Foster said. "Texas is saying flat out: You should have known better.
"In life, we have hindsight. Texas is saying you better have foresight. They're saying you better be psychic."
Dillard now is serving life for killing a taxi driver across the street from the Alamo two weeks before LaHood's slaying. Steen testified at Brown's trial and received a life sentence in a plea bargain.
Brown testified at his trial the shooting was in self-defense, that he believed LaHood had a gun. Authorities, however, never found another weapon near LaHood's body. Foster did not testify.
"I thought what (Brown) said was good enough," he said from death row.
Mike Ramos, among the Bexar County prosecutors handling the case when it went to trial, said he found Foster's claims unbelievable and was irritated by a publicity effort to spare Foster.
"When you let somebody out of your car with a loaded handgun, what do you expect?" Ramos said. "If he didn't realize it could happen, I think he's a liar."
Last weekend a group of Foster supporters picketed outside an Austin church Gov. Rick Perry attends.
"These guys are rewriting history," Ramos said. "He was far from any kind of angel they're trying to portray."
Ramos said it was clear to him that Foster was "the puppet master pulling all the strings" during the robbery spree.
Nico LaHood, whose brother was killed, said Wednesday he was frustrated that people were willing to believe only Foster's story, which he called "ridiculous and not true."
"I don't know what dynamics are going on that allow us to make the person who is the wrongdoer to become the victim in this case," LaHood said. His brother, he said, was being "lost in the whole thing."
On Wednesday, Amador asked for forgiveness for himself and peace "for people seeking revenge toward me," then was put to death for the fatal shooting of San Antonio taxi driver Mohammad Reza Ayari.
Another execution, the first of five scheduled for September in Texas, is set for next week when South Carolina native Tony Roach faces injection Wednesday for the strangling of an Amarillo woman, Ronnie Dawn Hewitt, 37, during a burglary of her apartment nine years ago.
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by MiChuhSuh » September 4th, 2007, 11:21 pm
Common Sense wrote:What do you guys think about the Holloween beatings of the three white women? Sometimes...I really don't understand the logic of some people. 10 people (including males) mobing women?????? Here we go again with soft targets. Everyone want's to be a badass bangin' or jumping on people that are most likely not going to do any damage back. If these three women would have looked like heroin meth addicts, holding shotguns and .38, the mob probably would have found reason to keep moving. What's really ignorant about the whole situation is, the black community is trying to deal with racism from the latin community, while some of it's on people are being racist towards the white community. You can't claim racial injustice and be racist at the same time???? If this would have happened to 3 black girls by 10 white youths, Al Sharpton would have been all over this in the media.
Sorry to dig up old bones but:
This was a terrible crime and the perpetrators need to be punished, but they got (mostly) the wrong people and the real perpetrators got away - that is the problem people had with the trial, not the idea that the crime was atrocious.
- MiChuhSuh
by Common Sense » September 5th, 2007, 2:44 pm
MiChuhSuh wrote:Sorry to dig up old bones but:
This was a terrible crime and the perpetrators need to be punished, but they got (mostly) the wrong people and the real perpetrators got away - that is the problem people had with the trial, not the idea that the crime was atrocious.
No problem..old bones are okay to redebate. According to this recently published article, it seems that the youth were convicted. Let me know if I'm wrong?
6/27/07
Of the 10 Long Beach youths originally charged in the matter - nine girls and one boy age 12 to 17 at the time of the incident - Lee found nine guilty of felony assault.
The judge also found eight of the youths guilty of a hate crime enhancement and six were found guilty of personal infliction of great bodily injury.
http://www.presstelegram.com/news/ci_6246589
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by Common Sense » November 3rd, 2007, 3:18 pm
People wonder why RPV kid 'chose to be a gang member'
Killing turns a limitless horizon to a life of restrictions.
By Denise Nix
Staff Writer
Nov 3,2007
Photographs of Phillip Dorsett, his friends and younger brother flashing gang signs were set in matting and framed.
They were displayed on his bedroom desk inside his parents' million-dollar Rancho Palos Verdes home, which sits atop a hill and offers ocean views.
Dorsett, 21, seemingly, could have had anything or done anything.
Instead, he's spending 40 years to life in prison for a gang-related murder.
"Nobody knew how a kid from Rancho Palos Verdes ends up down in Inglewood, in the heart of the ghetto," said Mike Valento, a sheriff's homicide detective.
"No one really has the answer, and Phillip never told us," he said.
Dorsett, who graduated from Palos Verdes Peninsula High School in 2004, became involved with an Inglewood-based Latino gang in his early teens, Valento said.
He may have been introduced to the group through a friend who lived in his neighborhood.
Dorsett's brother, Jaret Dorsett, joined the same gang and is wanted on suspicion of a 2003 gang-related killing in Inglewood, Valento added.
Valento believes the younger Dorsett is in Mexico - which is where his older brother fled after he killed 18-year-old Jesse Fujino on June 17, 2005.
It's a strange twist for the sons of a car dealership manager father, who is white, and an attorney mother, who is Asian.
Their mother, Dana Dorsett, who argued to a Torrance Superior Court judge for a new trial and a reduced sentence on behalf of her eldest son on Oct. 26, declined to comment about her son.
Dorsett's trial attorney, Edi Faal, did not return a telephone message.
The night of the shooting, Dorsett and his friends were visiting a friend in the 1000 block of 95th Street, near Vermont Avenue.
Around 9 p.m., they were hanging out with some teenage girls in Dorsett's minivan, drinking and talking, when three men from two different gangs pulled up behind them, according to Valento.
One of the men urinated on the back of the van, and words were exchanged.
The men walked past Dorsett and his friends to a nearby apartment, but then returned. When they did, Fujino broke off from the group and continued the confrontation with Dorsett and his friends.
In a typical precursor to gang violence, Fujino asked Dorsett's group where they were from.
The argument escalated, and Dorsett grabbed a handgun from the back of the minivan and pointed it at Fujino.
Fujino dared Dorsett to shoot him, and he did.
"Phillip was called out on the carpet," said Valento, the homicide detective. "He was trying to act bad in front of these girls, and now a rival gang member is challenging him to shoot, so he pulled the trigger."
Fujino was shot in the temple. During Dorsett's trial in Torrance Superior Court, that the gun was less than two feet from Fujino when it was fired.
There was no evidence Fujino was armed. He died the next morning.
However, Dorsett testified that he shot Fujino in self-defense after the group of gang members boxed him in and Fujino fired once or twice at him, and missed.
After the shooting, everyone ran, except Dorsett, who drove away in the minivan. Nobody cooperated with the initial investigation, which is not unusual in a gang-related crime where witnesses who snitch are often retaliated against, Valento said.
Eventually, though, one of the girls identified Dorsett, who goes by the moniker "Chino," to detectives.
By then, though, Dorsett had fled to Mexico, according to evidence later collected from his house.
With Dorsett gone, the investigation stalled. Until, on a chance, Valento spotted the minivan a few weeks later back in the driveway of the Dorsett home in the 4000 block of Exultant Drive.
Dorsett wasn't arrested until Sept. 9, 2005, when he was pulled over by a Hawthorne police officer. Several days later, detectives searched his home.
In his room, they found the photographs of the gang members and notebooks filled with gang writings, Valento said.
They also found Dorsett's passport; paperwork for car insurance bought in Mexico on June 21, 2005, for the minivan; and a plane ticket for the same day in Dorsett's name from Tijuana to Puerto Vallarta, Valento added.
experts testified Young girls threatened
Meanwhile, sometime after murder charges were filed against Dorsett, two girls who were in the van and witnessed the shooting were threatened by members of Dorsett's gang.
The girls, both in their early teens, were lured to a motel room in Lawndale.Inside the room, gang member Steve Uitz, 28, was waiting with a blow torch and a hot iron, according to Valento.
Uitz told the girls that he was going to get the witness list from Dorsett's father and, if their names were on it, they would be killed, the girls testified during Dorsett's trial.
Valento and Deputy District Attorney Cindy Barnes said the prosecution was scheduled to turn over evidence, including the witness list, to the defense at an upcoming hearing.
Barnes said that, although the inference to Jeffrey Dorsett is logical, there is no evidence he was behind the threats.
"That is what the girls were told, and the information they were told was correct," Barnes said.
The girls, who were hit in the motel room, were let go after about an hour. Uitz was later arrested and charged as a co-defendant in Dorsett's case, court records show.
In September, he pleaded no contest to several charges, including a count of dissuading a witness by force or threat, and was sentenced to more than 16 years and eight months in prison, according to Barnes.
The two girls were placed in protective custody, and testified against Dorsett during his trial, which ended with his conviction July 11.
Last month, Dorsett's mother and defense attorney argued that prosecutorial and judicial misconduct were grounds for a new trial.
Faal argued it was wrong to show the jury evidence that Dorsett was still in a gang. The jury saw a photograph of Dorsett and a group of men who were making gang signs and a jail booking sheet on which Dorsett wrote his gang affiliation.
Faal said the prosecutor wanted that evidence presented to bias the jury.
He noted that Dorsett, who has grown his hair past his collar, had become a licensed security guard and was working as a laborer in Riverside, where he was living with another family.
Dorsett's mother argued it was wrong for Judge Mark Arnold to keep out evidence that the people with Fujino the night he was shot were gang members.
Had the jury known, she said, then they would have understood the fear her son felt when he fired the gun.
But Arnold sided with Barnes, who said their affiliations were irrelevant because the only thing that mattered was what the defendant thought.
Victim's sisters speak
After Arnold denied the new trial motions, one of the murder victim's two sisters, Rena Fujino, spoke in court.
"My mom is grateful. Thank God they found him," she said through tears. "He doesn't deserve to be on the streets."
She said all her brother's accomplishments, including a high school diploma, were to make their mother happy.
"No money in the world was going to be able to let him be free," she said of Dorsett. "What we're feeling, one day his mother and father will feel.
"… (My brother) was a great, great man, and he was gonna be somebody in life, but you took that away from us. We are never gonna forgive you. Ever. Ever."
Although his attorney held him back and told him to be quiet, Dorsett became agitated and asked to speak.
As bailiffs moved closer, including one with a stun gun, Dorsett yelled: "I am not a coward! I did not kill an unarmed man!"
In an interview later, Rena Fujino, 24, said her family didn't know until the trial began that her brother's killer was "a rich kid over here causing trouble."
"What was he thinking?" she wondered.
During the trial, she said, Dorsett's mother generally remained quiet, sitting with her head down. His father did most of the interacting with their son and his lawyer.
Barnes, who prosecutes gang cases from the Lennox area, said this is a unique situation. Most people join gangs out of necessity - because they live in a neighborhood and need protection, or they have family members who are in the gang, Barnes said.
"What he was doing, he had to seek it out," he said.
"He knew better. He had options, and he chose to be a gang member," Barnes said. "I don't know if he's a bad seed or watched too much MTV, but whatever it was, he made that choice."
Commentary from the public:
i blame the MTV and all the rappers on it always talking about guns and gangs
- Ren
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 13:36 PM
Many good comments. This story certainly challenges some of the current premises about youth gang activity and involvement. The parents (especially one with a legal background) should have been on top of this one much earlier. They obviously have the resources to seek assistance with an intervention. Hopefully, this wakes up the parents to the fact that they have two more kids "highly at-risk for juvenile delinquency and/or adult criminal activity" who have watched their brother go over to the "dark side".
- Anonymous
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 13:16 PM
"open your eyes"
This incident does not surprise me at all. People think because he is rich kid it is strange for him to join a gang. The parents make good money and have a big house but did they ever spend time with their kids. Were they to busy working most of the time that they forgot they had kids. May be they just wanted some attention.Parents need to open their eyes and look at what their kids are doing. Parents need to look at the warning signs and become involved in your childs life cause this could happen to anyone.
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 12:51 PM
"ha! such a sad story"
i've got a sadder one. it's titled "how a wealthy scion of a politically connected oil family used his father's name and status to bankrupt america."
- Anonymous
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 12:32 PM
I have NO sympathy for any of these "gang" people. They are all a bunch of loser punks. It is foolish to think any of them as being "a great, great man, and he was gonna be somebody in life." I am sorry Ms. Fujino but your brother had become all he was ever going to be.... a street gang punk. The family members, rich or poor,of these people need to wake up. Yes, they should mourn the death of their loved ones but they should not build them up in their minds to be something they were not. After all, if they live by the sword, they will die by the sword.
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 12:32 PM
"C-ya . . ."
This is a perfect example of how kids make choices. Too much has been made of a neighborhood turning a kid bad; kids turn themselves bad. The parents did enable Dorsett, however, ultimately, he wanted to be a thug. Well, he got his wish and now he gets to enjoy the life of one . . . in prison. Good riddance.
- MsNomer
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 11:15 AM
""Once Again""
Mom no career is worth being away from your children,they need us every second of the day to guide them,to educate them,to love them,to listen to them.I could go on and on and on.Moms everywhere our children need us!!!!!I'm a stay at home mom.......
- Stay At Home Mom
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 11:14 AM
"GANGS IN PRV"
That just goes to show that gangs are everywhere, RPV has projects in their city so just because you live there does not mean you have money as people think. My husband is a Torrance Police and he has stories about PV. PVE,TORRANCE that can be pretty horrifying, and he said " that alot of the parents that he has met are not gang material" so we cannot always blame the parents they just need to fight harder to save their children from that life style. never the less it's sad to see kids in gangs thinking that life is better, when some of them have it great at home with their own family.
- CAROLYN
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 10:48 AM
"A sad case"
For whatever reason, he made the choice to become a gang member. Maybe he did watch to much "MTV" or movies which tend to glorify this kind of lifestyle. He did the crime, now he has to do the time. As for the parents, they missed the warning signs now one son is in prison and another is wanted for murder. Parents today have to be aware of what their kids are doing.
- Willie
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 10:28 AM
"Same old story"
Where were the parents? They let him make bad decisions.
- The Enforcer
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 10:23 AM
"Bored to Death"
Let's face it. The kid was looking for some excitement. Unless you are in to sports or some other organized activity, there isn't much for teens to do on the Hill. They seek out diversions, excitement. There are a fair number of high school aged girls who travel off the hill to find bad boys to hang with. We've boxed these kids in with cement, give them no attention and expect them to be able to "find" themselves in a healthy way? Nice parenting by the way. Ever bother to look in your kid's room? They don't get the right to privacy until they move out on their own.
- Civic Minded
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 10:21 AM
"What a shame..."
Many good points have already been stated. It's a combination of too much glorified violence on TV & video games and parents too busy to really know what their kids are doing or hanging out with. Parents out there- talk to your kids, hug them, say "no" once in a while, tell them that they can always come to you when they have something on their mind and be there for them the day they decide to open up to you. In the end a kid needs love and guidance to make the right decisions.
- MLD~ Wilmington
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 9:59 AM
"The MTV Generation"
Glorification of gangsters on TV, in the media, and steady practice of raising children by part-time workers, and we a "wondering" how this kid got messed up? Give me a break. When you hear Mira Costa brats arguing about being "ghetto enough", there is only one logical conclusion. Just look at the kids. Try to talk to them, if you can find one who speaks something close to standard English. Don't ask them any questions about History, Philosophy or anything other than "Global Warming" or why teachers need bigger raises. Children, the ultimate fashion accessory. Si o No?
- Gene H. Dreher
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 9:37 AM
These parents sound like they need to be held accountable as well. What is wrong with them. The signs and clues were all over there room. The boy that was killed was exactly a innocent victim as well, however no one deserves to die.
- Kim
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 9:15 AM
"He played with fire..."
....and got burned. Sorry, I don't have any pity for him. It's bad enough that we have locals joining gangs. We don't need any rich poseur's coming down from the hill and joining up. I hope he gets locked up for the rest of his life. And, I think the parent's need to look at themselves and figure out where they went wrong with their kids.
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 8:53 AM
"white, mexican, or black. . ."
all gang members need to be executed. as soon as he was found guilty, he should have been lead into another room and gotten an AK-47 bullet to the head. you can save a lot of tax dollars if their lives are just ended
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 7:58 AM
"The parents"
are to blame..wonder where they thought he was when he was hanging out in Inglewood? Did they bring this kid up with video games? Clearly the kid thought it would be cool to be in a gang...huge mistake.
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 7:24 AM
"Parents..."
Two brothers going or gone bad? It's got to be the parenting, or lack of it. We all know the scenario: both parents with jobs. Likely, too busy to pay any attention to what their teens were doing. What a waste.
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 6:21 AM
"dumb"
So, you want pity for this kid. I am sorry if you want to be tuff gangmember with a gun an create havoc on our society then go to jail. Lets see how strong you are when bubba behind you and his friends or fighting for your life everyday? See you buddy in the big house soon!
Killing turns a limitless horizon to a life of restrictions.
By Denise Nix
Staff Writer
Nov 3,2007
Photographs of Phillip Dorsett, his friends and younger brother flashing gang signs were set in matting and framed.
They were displayed on his bedroom desk inside his parents' million-dollar Rancho Palos Verdes home, which sits atop a hill and offers ocean views.
Dorsett, 21, seemingly, could have had anything or done anything.
Instead, he's spending 40 years to life in prison for a gang-related murder.
"Nobody knew how a kid from Rancho Palos Verdes ends up down in Inglewood, in the heart of the ghetto," said Mike Valento, a sheriff's homicide detective.
"No one really has the answer, and Phillip never told us," he said.
Dorsett, who graduated from Palos Verdes Peninsula High School in 2004, became involved with an Inglewood-based Latino gang in his early teens, Valento said.
He may have been introduced to the group through a friend who lived in his neighborhood.
Dorsett's brother, Jaret Dorsett, joined the same gang and is wanted on suspicion of a 2003 gang-related killing in Inglewood, Valento added.
Valento believes the younger Dorsett is in Mexico - which is where his older brother fled after he killed 18-year-old Jesse Fujino on June 17, 2005.
It's a strange twist for the sons of a car dealership manager father, who is white, and an attorney mother, who is Asian.
Their mother, Dana Dorsett, who argued to a Torrance Superior Court judge for a new trial and a reduced sentence on behalf of her eldest son on Oct. 26, declined to comment about her son.
Dorsett's trial attorney, Edi Faal, did not return a telephone message.
The night of the shooting, Dorsett and his friends were visiting a friend in the 1000 block of 95th Street, near Vermont Avenue.
Around 9 p.m., they were hanging out with some teenage girls in Dorsett's minivan, drinking and talking, when three men from two different gangs pulled up behind them, according to Valento.
One of the men urinated on the back of the van, and words were exchanged.
The men walked past Dorsett and his friends to a nearby apartment, but then returned. When they did, Fujino broke off from the group and continued the confrontation with Dorsett and his friends.
In a typical precursor to gang violence, Fujino asked Dorsett's group where they were from.
The argument escalated, and Dorsett grabbed a handgun from the back of the minivan and pointed it at Fujino.
Fujino dared Dorsett to shoot him, and he did.
"Phillip was called out on the carpet," said Valento, the homicide detective. "He was trying to act bad in front of these girls, and now a rival gang member is challenging him to shoot, so he pulled the trigger."
Fujino was shot in the temple. During Dorsett's trial in Torrance Superior Court, that the gun was less than two feet from Fujino when it was fired.
There was no evidence Fujino was armed. He died the next morning.
However, Dorsett testified that he shot Fujino in self-defense after the group of gang members boxed him in and Fujino fired once or twice at him, and missed.
After the shooting, everyone ran, except Dorsett, who drove away in the minivan. Nobody cooperated with the initial investigation, which is not unusual in a gang-related crime where witnesses who snitch are often retaliated against, Valento said.
Eventually, though, one of the girls identified Dorsett, who goes by the moniker "Chino," to detectives.
By then, though, Dorsett had fled to Mexico, according to evidence later collected from his house.
With Dorsett gone, the investigation stalled. Until, on a chance, Valento spotted the minivan a few weeks later back in the driveway of the Dorsett home in the 4000 block of Exultant Drive.
Dorsett wasn't arrested until Sept. 9, 2005, when he was pulled over by a Hawthorne police officer. Several days later, detectives searched his home.
In his room, they found the photographs of the gang members and notebooks filled with gang writings, Valento said.
They also found Dorsett's passport; paperwork for car insurance bought in Mexico on June 21, 2005, for the minivan; and a plane ticket for the same day in Dorsett's name from Tijuana to Puerto Vallarta, Valento added.
experts testified Young girls threatened
Meanwhile, sometime after murder charges were filed against Dorsett, two girls who were in the van and witnessed the shooting were threatened by members of Dorsett's gang.
The girls, both in their early teens, were lured to a motel room in Lawndale.Inside the room, gang member Steve Uitz, 28, was waiting with a blow torch and a hot iron, according to Valento.
Uitz told the girls that he was going to get the witness list from Dorsett's father and, if their names were on it, they would be killed, the girls testified during Dorsett's trial.
Valento and Deputy District Attorney Cindy Barnes said the prosecution was scheduled to turn over evidence, including the witness list, to the defense at an upcoming hearing.
Barnes said that, although the inference to Jeffrey Dorsett is logical, there is no evidence he was behind the threats.
"That is what the girls were told, and the information they were told was correct," Barnes said.
The girls, who were hit in the motel room, were let go after about an hour. Uitz was later arrested and charged as a co-defendant in Dorsett's case, court records show.
In September, he pleaded no contest to several charges, including a count of dissuading a witness by force or threat, and was sentenced to more than 16 years and eight months in prison, according to Barnes.
The two girls were placed in protective custody, and testified against Dorsett during his trial, which ended with his conviction July 11.
Last month, Dorsett's mother and defense attorney argued that prosecutorial and judicial misconduct were grounds for a new trial.
Faal argued it was wrong to show the jury evidence that Dorsett was still in a gang. The jury saw a photograph of Dorsett and a group of men who were making gang signs and a jail booking sheet on which Dorsett wrote his gang affiliation.
Faal said the prosecutor wanted that evidence presented to bias the jury.
He noted that Dorsett, who has grown his hair past his collar, had become a licensed security guard and was working as a laborer in Riverside, where he was living with another family.
Dorsett's mother argued it was wrong for Judge Mark Arnold to keep out evidence that the people with Fujino the night he was shot were gang members.
Had the jury known, she said, then they would have understood the fear her son felt when he fired the gun.
But Arnold sided with Barnes, who said their affiliations were irrelevant because the only thing that mattered was what the defendant thought.
Victim's sisters speak
After Arnold denied the new trial motions, one of the murder victim's two sisters, Rena Fujino, spoke in court.
"My mom is grateful. Thank God they found him," she said through tears. "He doesn't deserve to be on the streets."
She said all her brother's accomplishments, including a high school diploma, were to make their mother happy.
"No money in the world was going to be able to let him be free," she said of Dorsett. "What we're feeling, one day his mother and father will feel.
"… (My brother) was a great, great man, and he was gonna be somebody in life, but you took that away from us. We are never gonna forgive you. Ever. Ever."
Although his attorney held him back and told him to be quiet, Dorsett became agitated and asked to speak.
As bailiffs moved closer, including one with a stun gun, Dorsett yelled: "I am not a coward! I did not kill an unarmed man!"
In an interview later, Rena Fujino, 24, said her family didn't know until the trial began that her brother's killer was "a rich kid over here causing trouble."
"What was he thinking?" she wondered.
During the trial, she said, Dorsett's mother generally remained quiet, sitting with her head down. His father did most of the interacting with their son and his lawyer.
Barnes, who prosecutes gang cases from the Lennox area, said this is a unique situation. Most people join gangs out of necessity - because they live in a neighborhood and need protection, or they have family members who are in the gang, Barnes said.
"What he was doing, he had to seek it out," he said.
"He knew better. He had options, and he chose to be a gang member," Barnes said. "I don't know if he's a bad seed or watched too much MTV, but whatever it was, he made that choice."
Commentary from the public:
i blame the MTV and all the rappers on it always talking about guns and gangs
- Ren
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 13:36 PM
Many good comments. This story certainly challenges some of the current premises about youth gang activity and involvement. The parents (especially one with a legal background) should have been on top of this one much earlier. They obviously have the resources to seek assistance with an intervention. Hopefully, this wakes up the parents to the fact that they have two more kids "highly at-risk for juvenile delinquency and/or adult criminal activity" who have watched their brother go over to the "dark side".
- Anonymous
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 13:16 PM
"open your eyes"
This incident does not surprise me at all. People think because he is rich kid it is strange for him to join a gang. The parents make good money and have a big house but did they ever spend time with their kids. Were they to busy working most of the time that they forgot they had kids. May be they just wanted some attention.Parents need to open their eyes and look at what their kids are doing. Parents need to look at the warning signs and become involved in your childs life cause this could happen to anyone.
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 12:51 PM
"ha! such a sad story"
i've got a sadder one. it's titled "how a wealthy scion of a politically connected oil family used his father's name and status to bankrupt america."
- Anonymous
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 12:32 PM
I have NO sympathy for any of these "gang" people. They are all a bunch of loser punks. It is foolish to think any of them as being "a great, great man, and he was gonna be somebody in life." I am sorry Ms. Fujino but your brother had become all he was ever going to be.... a street gang punk. The family members, rich or poor,of these people need to wake up. Yes, they should mourn the death of their loved ones but they should not build them up in their minds to be something they were not. After all, if they live by the sword, they will die by the sword.
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 12:32 PM
"C-ya . . ."
This is a perfect example of how kids make choices. Too much has been made of a neighborhood turning a kid bad; kids turn themselves bad. The parents did enable Dorsett, however, ultimately, he wanted to be a thug. Well, he got his wish and now he gets to enjoy the life of one . . . in prison. Good riddance.
- MsNomer
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 11:15 AM
""Once Again""
Mom no career is worth being away from your children,they need us every second of the day to guide them,to educate them,to love them,to listen to them.I could go on and on and on.Moms everywhere our children need us!!!!!I'm a stay at home mom.......
- Stay At Home Mom
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 11:14 AM
"GANGS IN PRV"
That just goes to show that gangs are everywhere, RPV has projects in their city so just because you live there does not mean you have money as people think. My husband is a Torrance Police and he has stories about PV. PVE,TORRANCE that can be pretty horrifying, and he said " that alot of the parents that he has met are not gang material" so we cannot always blame the parents they just need to fight harder to save their children from that life style. never the less it's sad to see kids in gangs thinking that life is better, when some of them have it great at home with their own family.
- CAROLYN
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 10:48 AM
"A sad case"
For whatever reason, he made the choice to become a gang member. Maybe he did watch to much "MTV" or movies which tend to glorify this kind of lifestyle. He did the crime, now he has to do the time. As for the parents, they missed the warning signs now one son is in prison and another is wanted for murder. Parents today have to be aware of what their kids are doing.
- Willie
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 10:28 AM
"Same old story"
Where were the parents? They let him make bad decisions.
- The Enforcer
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 10:23 AM
"Bored to Death"
Let's face it. The kid was looking for some excitement. Unless you are in to sports or some other organized activity, there isn't much for teens to do on the Hill. They seek out diversions, excitement. There are a fair number of high school aged girls who travel off the hill to find bad boys to hang with. We've boxed these kids in with cement, give them no attention and expect them to be able to "find" themselves in a healthy way? Nice parenting by the way. Ever bother to look in your kid's room? They don't get the right to privacy until they move out on their own.
- Civic Minded
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 10:21 AM
"What a shame..."
Many good points have already been stated. It's a combination of too much glorified violence on TV & video games and parents too busy to really know what their kids are doing or hanging out with. Parents out there- talk to your kids, hug them, say "no" once in a while, tell them that they can always come to you when they have something on their mind and be there for them the day they decide to open up to you. In the end a kid needs love and guidance to make the right decisions.
- MLD~ Wilmington
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 9:59 AM
"The MTV Generation"
Glorification of gangsters on TV, in the media, and steady practice of raising children by part-time workers, and we a "wondering" how this kid got messed up? Give me a break. When you hear Mira Costa brats arguing about being "ghetto enough", there is only one logical conclusion. Just look at the kids. Try to talk to them, if you can find one who speaks something close to standard English. Don't ask them any questions about History, Philosophy or anything other than "Global Warming" or why teachers need bigger raises. Children, the ultimate fashion accessory. Si o No?
- Gene H. Dreher
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 9:37 AM
These parents sound like they need to be held accountable as well. What is wrong with them. The signs and clues were all over there room. The boy that was killed was exactly a innocent victim as well, however no one deserves to die.
- Kim
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 9:15 AM
"He played with fire..."
....and got burned. Sorry, I don't have any pity for him. It's bad enough that we have locals joining gangs. We don't need any rich poseur's coming down from the hill and joining up. I hope he gets locked up for the rest of his life. And, I think the parent's need to look at themselves and figure out where they went wrong with their kids.
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 8:53 AM
"white, mexican, or black. . ."
all gang members need to be executed. as soon as he was found guilty, he should have been lead into another room and gotten an AK-47 bullet to the head. you can save a lot of tax dollars if their lives are just ended
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 7:58 AM
"The parents"
are to blame..wonder where they thought he was when he was hanging out in Inglewood? Did they bring this kid up with video games? Clearly the kid thought it would be cool to be in a gang...huge mistake.
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 7:24 AM
"Parents..."
Two brothers going or gone bad? It's got to be the parenting, or lack of it. We all know the scenario: both parents with jobs. Likely, too busy to pay any attention to what their teens were doing. What a waste.
posted: Saturday, November 3rd at 6:21 AM
"dumb"
So, you want pity for this kid. I am sorry if you want to be tuff gangmember with a gun an create havoc on our society then go to jail. Lets see how strong you are when bubba behind you and his friends or fighting for your life everyday? See you buddy in the big house soon!
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by Common Sense » November 12th, 2007, 2:49 pm
http://www.streetgangs.com/billboard/vi ... highlight=
After watching these dumb videos on the 89 east coast thread, all I could do was shake my head. Funny thing. Somebody was actually proud of this making Bule-shyt.
So much for reparations? Mothers should never drink alcohol and have babies.
Way to go fellows. Nice way to contribute to black causes. Keep up the good work.
Maybe we can nominate these two videos for Best Documentary on "How To Look Ignorant And Not Know It."
After watching these dumb videos on the 89 east coast thread, all I could do was shake my head. Funny thing. Somebody was actually proud of this making Bule-shyt.
So much for reparations? Mothers should never drink alcohol and have babies.
Way to go fellows. Nice way to contribute to black causes. Keep up the good work.
Maybe we can nominate these two videos for Best Documentary on "How To Look Ignorant And Not Know It."
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by Common Sense » November 20th, 2007, 9:11 am
Gang Member Convicted Of Killing A Man For A Dirty Look
November 17, 2007
STOCKTON -- A 22-year-old Stockton man is facing the possibility of life in prison for killing a man he thought had given him a dirty look. (Now that was stupid)
A jury convicted Sophan Mao of first-degree murder on Friday, ten months after the killing at a Chevron station in Stockton.
Authorities say Mao thought someone there had "mad-mugged" him. That's street slang for giving someone a challenging look. (Paranoid?)
Mao left, but later returned with his face concealed by a blue bandanna. He fired six shots, killing one man and wounding another. Authorities say the dead man had nothing to do with the incident that triggered Mao's rage.
(This fool has mental problems. He needs to be housed somewhere with a 24 hour baby sitter.)
November 17, 2007
STOCKTON -- A 22-year-old Stockton man is facing the possibility of life in prison for killing a man he thought had given him a dirty look. (Now that was stupid)
A jury convicted Sophan Mao of first-degree murder on Friday, ten months after the killing at a Chevron station in Stockton.
Authorities say Mao thought someone there had "mad-mugged" him. That's street slang for giving someone a challenging look. (Paranoid?)
Mao left, but later returned with his face concealed by a blue bandanna. He fired six shots, killing one man and wounding another. Authorities say the dead man had nothing to do with the incident that triggered Mao's rage.
(This fool has mental problems. He needs to be housed somewhere with a 24 hour baby sitter.)
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by Common Sense » January 10th, 2008, 9:03 am
There is an idiot born every minute (kind of hard to believe), but it's true. This thread is devoted to the countless idiots and fools that make the dumbest life decisions known to mankind. If you (the reader) do some of the things that that you read about here, you really need to sit down and do some serious soul searching. Whatever you do, do the right thing, and don't make dumb, senseless, idiotic, and immature choices like the fools written about in varies news reports on this thread. Go enjoy your life (at least as best you can).
Lancaster jury convicts gang members in candy robbery killing
January 9, 2008
Lancaster, Calif. (AP) --
Two gang members have been convicted of killing an Antelope Valley teenager who wouldn't hand over his Milk Duds and bag of Fritos chips.
Prosecutors say Laquane Keith shot 18-year-old LeMarcus Spencer in the chest, then co-defendant Reno Williams shot him in the back as the teen ran away in August 2005.
Deputy District Attorney Robert Sherwood says the teenager thought the robbers' demand for his two boxes of Milk Duds and bag of Chili Cheese Fritos was a joke.
Keith and Williams will be sentenced Feb. 6.
The prosecutor says, "He was killed over some sweets. That should leave a sour taste in your mouth."
(Los Angeles) Daily News, www.dailynews.com
Lancaster jury convicts gang members in candy robbery killing
January 9, 2008
Lancaster, Calif. (AP) --
Two gang members have been convicted of killing an Antelope Valley teenager who wouldn't hand over his Milk Duds and bag of Fritos chips.
Prosecutors say Laquane Keith shot 18-year-old LeMarcus Spencer in the chest, then co-defendant Reno Williams shot him in the back as the teen ran away in August 2005.
Deputy District Attorney Robert Sherwood says the teenager thought the robbers' demand for his two boxes of Milk Duds and bag of Chili Cheese Fritos was a joke.
Keith and Williams will be sentenced Feb. 6.
The prosecutor says, "He was killed over some sweets. That should leave a sour taste in your mouth."
(Los Angeles) Daily News, www.dailynews.com
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by Common Sense » May 12th, 2008, 11:54 am
Making Threat's From Jail On A Public Phone????
Alleged gang member sentenced
Tuesday, May 06, 2008
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
A man police say belonged to the South Oakland Crips was sentenced yesterday for conspiring to shoot at two occupied homes in the neighborhood in 2005.
In taped phone calls from the Allegheny County Jail, the two defendants in the case, one incarcerated and one on the outside, discussed targeting specific victims because they were "snitches" whom they believed cooperated with police.
Before sentencing, one of the victims testified she had to sell her home, leave her job and relocate to get away from the threat of violence, but the lesson she learned from the shooting was never to remain silent amid threats.
Allegheny County Common Pleas Judge Kevin G. Sasinoski, who ruled in the nonjury trial, went above the sentencing guidelines yesterday, he explained, "because every resident has a right to be safe in their residence."
He sentenced Javon Q. Brooks, 18, of East Carnegie, to 21/2 to seven years in prison on two counts of conspiracy and a summary charge of criminal mischief. Mr. Brooks was in jail at the time of the phone calls.
At their joint trial, his co-defendant, DePaul Suzensky, was convicted on two conspiracy counts. A police investigator testified that he communicated by phone with Mr. Brooks about the shootings before and after they happened. His sentencing is scheduled for June 11.
Alleged gang member sentenced
Tuesday, May 06, 2008
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
A man police say belonged to the South Oakland Crips was sentenced yesterday for conspiring to shoot at two occupied homes in the neighborhood in 2005.
In taped phone calls from the Allegheny County Jail, the two defendants in the case, one incarcerated and one on the outside, discussed targeting specific victims because they were "snitches" whom they believed cooperated with police.
Before sentencing, one of the victims testified she had to sell her home, leave her job and relocate to get away from the threat of violence, but the lesson she learned from the shooting was never to remain silent amid threats.
Allegheny County Common Pleas Judge Kevin G. Sasinoski, who ruled in the nonjury trial, went above the sentencing guidelines yesterday, he explained, "because every resident has a right to be safe in their residence."
He sentenced Javon Q. Brooks, 18, of East Carnegie, to 21/2 to seven years in prison on two counts of conspiracy and a summary charge of criminal mischief. Mr. Brooks was in jail at the time of the phone calls.
At their joint trial, his co-defendant, DePaul Suzensky, was convicted on two conspiracy counts. A police investigator testified that he communicated by phone with Mr. Brooks about the shootings before and after they happened. His sentencing is scheduled for June 11.
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by Common Sense » May 14th, 2008, 7:44 pm
2 men arrested in credit union robbery
BUENA PARK, CA - Two men suspected of robbing a credit union across the street from the Buena Park Police Department (this was already a bad idea) were arrested within 10 minutes of the crime by officers who got there in a matter of seconds Tuesday, a sergeant said. (The cops probably walked across the street, so they wouldn't waste the gas on these two dumb ignoramouses).
Shawn Owens, 27 (dum dum #1), and Joshua Brooks, 20 (dum dum #2), both of Los Angeles, were taken into custody one or two blocks from the Orange County Credit Union, 6951 Beach Blvd., Buena Park police Sgt. William Kohanek said.
Officers were called at 1:20 p.m. on a report that two men entered the business, jumped the counter and demanded cash, although no weapons were seen. The men walked out with an undetermined amount of cash, which Kohanek said was recovered.
The suspects were identified by employees and arrested on suspicion of robbery. A possible get-away vehicle was not found.
There's always an old idiot trying to be a mentor to a follower. Bad combination.
BUENA PARK, CA - Two men suspected of robbing a credit union across the street from the Buena Park Police Department (this was already a bad idea) were arrested within 10 minutes of the crime by officers who got there in a matter of seconds Tuesday, a sergeant said. (The cops probably walked across the street, so they wouldn't waste the gas on these two dumb ignoramouses).
Shawn Owens, 27 (dum dum #1), and Joshua Brooks, 20 (dum dum #2), both of Los Angeles, were taken into custody one or two blocks from the Orange County Credit Union, 6951 Beach Blvd., Buena Park police Sgt. William Kohanek said.
Officers were called at 1:20 p.m. on a report that two men entered the business, jumped the counter and demanded cash, although no weapons were seen. The men walked out with an undetermined amount of cash, which Kohanek said was recovered.
The suspects were identified by employees and arrested on suspicion of robbery. A possible get-away vehicle was not found.
There's always an old idiot trying to be a mentor to a follower. Bad combination.
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by Mcminister » May 15th, 2008, 6:53 pm
a friend i had killed a dude for not giving him ciggarets...shot him bout 6 times...after i heard it, i went to visit him after he got sentenced 15 years...to get it clear that he obviusly had to have known the dude prior, or the dude told him to fuck off and had a lil heated arguement or somthin..and he told me ...that he had asked for a smoke and the dude looked at him and turned aruond, then he grabbed the victim and wen the victim tried to push his hand away he prooceded to shoot him...very very dumb...im like maan!!! c u in 15 bro...
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by Mcminister » May 15th, 2008, 8:55 pm
turned himself in and admited to the crime and he ain neva had nothin on record...
actually he was sayin somethin buot it bein self defense and an accident but then he jst caught a plea....and he 15/16 wen he did it.
actually he was sayin somethin buot it bein self defense and an accident but then he jst caught a plea....and he 15/16 wen he did it.
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by Mcminister » May 15th, 2008, 8:56 pm
dats not the first time somethin stupid happend in DC....another time some teens shot a dude trippin coz they was leaning on his car...that nigga got shit like 20 times too
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by $outhPhillypuppet » May 15th, 2008, 8:58 pm
Mcminister wrote:dats not the first time somethin stupid happend in DC....another time some teens shot a dude trippin coz they was leaning on his car...that nigga got shit like 20 times too
in febuary some guy killed a 15 year old kid for missing his friend with snowball and hitting him.
it was the kid birthday too.
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