5% VS. others

[Qdawg]

yeah i feel what you saying cold bear...before tonight i havent heard of it being hispanic gods...not saying it couldnt happen..just new 2 me

[Cold Bear]

That's the thing, there's really not hispanic gods, but there are commonalities and shared ideas.

[Qdawg]

true

[MiChuhSuh]

but that does not mean you should try to discredit 5% teachings.

Where does 5% get it's "credit" from besides Clarence. Please enlighten me to the top five percent of teh world, let me here what verifies this "supreme" knowledge.

[Cold Bear]

If you have some type of personal issue with 5%ers then you should look within yourself to either get over it and stop being petty or just debate it personally with whatever 5% you can find in LA.

['X']

If you have some type of personal issue with 5%ers then you should look within yourself to either get over it and stop being petty or just debate it personally with whatever 5% you can find in LA.

Good post...

[MiChuhSuh]

If you have some type of personal issue with 5%ers then you should look within yourself to either get over it and stop being petty or just debate it personally with whatever 5% you can find in LA.

I don't have a personal issue with them.

[Old Shatterhand]

but that does not mean you should try to discredit 5% teachings.

Where does 5% get it's "credit" from besides Clarence. Please enlighten me to the top five percent of teh world, let me here what verifies this "supreme" knowledge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moorish_Science_Temple_of_America

The way I read it is that it is rooted in Moorish Science Temple theology but really it's about their perspective of "knowledge of self" as revealed by "Father Allah" (e.g. Clarence). Obviously Clarence was influenced by Master Farad and Elijah Muhammad though he disseminated Farad Muhammad's secret teachings known as the "Lost-Found Muslim Lessons," which are arranged in question-and-answer format (and seem to have been modeled on the catechism of the Masons). They teach the 5% (Nation of Gods and Earths) are the righteous teachers who preach the divinity of (black) man, the god who is "manifest" and who will save the 85% from destruction. Of course, to orthodox Muslims, this (like Christianity) is shirk or un-Islamic polytheism.

[northsidehtown]

master fard muhammad came from mecca arabia and found the honorable elijah muhammad and gave him knowledge about self which was you are the original man to walk the planet before you there was none and that you are abrahams seed gods chosen people who went astray and would serve and be afflicted for 400years in a strange land . Master fard muhamad told him that the white man was the devil and destroyer of peace , australia to asia to africa to the americas where ever he gose he nearly desimates the original population, he told him that these same peoples who enslaved you and persecute you and Jesus like wise are devils . the black man is god selfcreated the white man is mankind(kind of a man but nature of a beast) he was given dominion let us make man and we made man in our image and gave him dominion. now when our ressurection is complete we have recorded in history what happens when we belive in anything outside of self , and from now own we will stand up and not allow anything outside of self to rule us accept the will of Allah which is the will of peace and truth what is right , just as is correct and right that we are self created and to none but Allah wich is the truth do we submit. and truth lives in and is . the nature of the original man whom is the black man Allah

[Old Shatterhand]

We know that. And don't take it personally but that's what some of us educated truth seekers accurately label as a false religious system as in the theology is not true nor the assertions historically accurate. Peace.

[northsidehtown]

it wasnt really for you i skimmed through and didnt really completly read it i ,wanted to reinforce the point .religion? islam is a way of life . whats the purpose of a religion (any thing made up )if you are the direct descendents of the originator . the honorable elijah muhammad pbuh only explained the facts we all know humanity started with the black man weather you want to say out of africa or asia , we fell off. and will rise again . whats so strange and twisted about that . you get all the people of color on earth yea they will have conflicts especially since so many have been lost from supreme guidance , but this confusion will be exagerated with the prescence of white man . just look at european history as soon as the ROPE of euROPE was loosend it was like a diesease that spread over the world , thats not being racist or incorrect its in our history books. peace no beef

['X']

it wasnt really for you i skimmed through and didnt really completly read it i ,wanted to reinforce the point .religion? islam is a way of life . whats the purpose of a religion (any thing made up )if you are the direct descendents of the originator . the honorable elijah muhammad pbuh only explained the facts we all know humanity started with the black man weather you want to say out of africa or asia , we fell off. and will rise again . whats so strange and twisted about that . you get all the people of color on earth yea they will have conflicts especially since so many have been lost from supreme guidance , but this confusion will be exagerated with the prescence of white man . just look at european history as soon as the ROPE of euROPE was loosend it was like a diesease that spread over the world , thats not being racist or incorrect its in our history books. peace no beef

Good post....

[Old Shatterhand]

it wasnt really for you i skimmed through and didnt really completly read it i ,wanted to reinforce the point .religion? islam is a way of life . whats the purpose of a religion (any thing made up )if you are the direct descendents of the originator . the honorable elijah muhammad pbuh only explained the facts we all know humanity started with the black man weather you want to say out of africa or asia , we fell off. and will rise again . whats so strange and twisted about that . you get all the people of color on earth yea they will have conflicts especially since so many have been lost from supreme guidance , but this confusion will be exagerated with the prescence of white man . just look at european history as soon as the ROPE of euROPE was loosend it was like a diesease that spread over the world , thats not being racist or incorrect its in our history books. peace no beef

All human races are nothing more than the result of microevolution over time. The White man you refer to is the same race as you: the race of man. If a religious system teaches otherwise than it is teaching what is false and not what is true.

[Qdawg]

[quote="MiChuhSuh"]Basic summary:

Most Islam - One God

5% - All black men are god

Someone please explain how these are the same religion, the first sounds like monotheism and the second sounds like a ditzy cheerleader.[/quote]

85ers(nation of islam)..doesnt like what 5% preach in there 120 degrees

[Christina Marie]

The White man you refer to is the same race as you: the race of man.

[MiChuhSuh]

Sorry about my previous misconceptions, I didn't really know what the nation was about so I was asking.

I just found out the nation officially doesn't classify themselves as Muslims since they believe all religions are in some way corrupt and that true religion is from shared truths or something like that.

P.S.
I know there are different ideas within the nation, but is there any talk about abortion? I heard some talk about how there should be abortion rights but doesn't that go against the idea of kids being so important?

[WIP]

Yeah thats a great quote

The White man you refer to is the same race as you: the race of man.

['X']

Yeah thats a great quote

The White man you refer to is the same race as you: the race of man.

Damn, I was going to comment but naw never mind, I'm sure they "get the picture"...

[Christina Marie]

Yeah thats a great quote

The White man you refer to is the same race as you: the race of man.

First of all thats not even from this thread so quit trying to manipulate. Second of all..no matter how hard you try to make me out as a racist I am not so give it up all ready. I find the picture you posted appalling as you do and I would hang the whites myself that did that in a heart beat if it were possible.

[Christina Marie]

Yeah thats a great quote

The White man you refer to is the same race as you: the race of man.

Damn, I was going to comment but naw never mind, I'm sure they "get the picture"...

And YOU!!

[Sentenza]

Damn, I was going to comment but naw never mind, I'm sure they "get the picture"...

That picture doesnt prove anything but, that terrible things were committed by maniacs in history.

['X']

Damn, I was going to comment but naw never mind, I'm sure they "get the picture"...

That picture doesnt prove anything but, that terrible things were committed by maniacs in history.

Actually hangings still occur....

[Sentenza]

Damn, I was going to comment but naw never mind, I'm sure they "get the picture"...

That picture doesnt prove anything but, that terrible things were committed by maniacs in history.

Actually hangings still occur....

Ok, but it is no prove to anything about the white race being bad by nature etc.

[Christina Marie]

Damn, I was going to comment but naw never mind, I'm sure they "get the picture"...

That picture doesnt prove anything but, that terrible things were committed by maniacs in history.

Actually hangings still occur....

And if I SAW one happening, you can be sure I would be the one speaking out/up loud and clear likely they would hang my ass too.

[WIP]

Christina its funny that a quote can be totally turned around into something all about YOU. I was not labeling you anything. I was trying to prove a point that that quote is incorrect. Your deep rooted anger and quilt came flying out. Ready to "lynch" myself over that image. Its the MAJORITY of whites who, killed off the indians, killed millions of Japanese and Asians, enslaved Hindus, Killed millions of Jews and raped, tortued and enslaved a RACE of people like the VICTIMS in that horrible picture. So if you feel the need please go ahead attack me again. Its my fault. Then you can lock this up as well.

[Christina Marie]

Christina its funny that a quote can be totally turned around into something all about YOU. I was not labeling you anything. I was trying to prove a point that that quote is incorrect. Your deep rooted anger and quilt came flying out. Ready to "lynch" myself over that image. Its the MAJORITY of whites who, killed off the indians, killed millions of Japanese and Asians, enslaved Hindus, Killed millions of Jews and raped, tortued and enslaved a RACE of people like the VICTIMS in that horrible picture. So if you feel the need please go ahead attack me again. Its my fault. Then you can lock this up as well.

Its always alllll about me. I am a woman. My deep rooted anger is at MEN, has nothing to do with race. You just are the type that reminds me how much I HATE men...lol. Dont take it personally hon. I have no reason to be locking this so far. You are confused. Now back on topic

[BlaKK]

Got damnit nigga those pics do nothing but give me another legit reason to hate white.

[BlaKK]

Got damn that shit fucked up my high. I cant even enjoy my high when a nigga angry.

[Mcminister]

somethin that can make u hate white people is dem emmet till (w.e u spell his name) pictures on google search

somethin that can have u murderin white people is his documentary

[Sentenza]

^^^Never heard of that story...Its fucked up. What happened to the guys who did that? Fuck Mississipi.

[WIP]

^^^Never heard of that story...Its #%@& up. What happened to the guys who did that? fu-- Mississipi.

If you dont know who Emmit Till was then dont make dumba$$ comments like "they were committed by maniacs in history" because you DONT know the HISTORY.

['X']

^^^Never heard of that story...Its #%@& up. What happened to the guys who did that? fu-- Mississipi.

Never heard what happened to him? I had a pic in my avatar of him. This was a pic of him after they found the young brutha's body....

















And the "before" picture of him...

Emmitt Till





And people have the nerve to say get over that s!@# that happened to our people, or move on???? This didnt happened no hundreds or thousands of years ago. This is fresh to alot of our people!! Most people can NEVER relate to why feel what we feel....What this young brutha went through, alot of our people's from the south went through some of the same things, and still dealing with the same mentality of those who did this bs to the youngsta. His story definatly should be learned.