BlaKK wrote:but if you knew, and we all knew that God exists then what now becomes of faith? Ghost? Faith soon becomes irrelevant, and the bible nothing more then a lie. period.

I see your logic, if we all KNEW god existed we wouldnt have to HOPE he exists.
I want to live my life in a way where I know whats gonna happen.

WELL ITS TRUE WHAT PEOPLE SAY ABOUT HAVING FATE RATHER THAN NOT BELIEVING IN SOME THING AT ALL BESIDES PEOPLE TEND TO belive in something good then nothing at all I think it gives THEM hope that after all this pain and suffering on earth that THEY all have something good in the end.frozen fire wrote:I see your logic, if we all KNEW god existed we wouldnt have to HOPE he exists.
I never hoped that he would exist, neither have i come across people saying *jeez i hope God exists*. We know he does exist.I want to live my life in a way where I know whats gonna happen.
and i know whats going to happen if i dont follow and reject the truth. and anywayz outside the topic...who really does know whats going to happen??? we can all die in this instant! i remember planning to go to lebanon on holiday, and then a war broke out...noone has full control of his/her life.
btw science is Man trying to understand nature and how things work..alot are based on theories other then facts.

frozen fire wrote:I see your logic, if we all KNEW god existed we wouldnt have to HOPE he exists.
I never hoped that he would exist, neither have i come across people saying *jeez i hope God exists*. We know he does exist.I want to live my life in a way where I know whats gonna happen.
btw science is Man trying to understand nature and how things work..alot are based on theories other then facts.


A Ghost wrote:frozen fire wrote:I see your logic, if we all KNEW god existed we wouldnt have to HOPE he exists.
I never hoped that he would exist, neither have i come across people saying *jeez i hope God exists*. We know he does exist.I want to live my life in a way where I know whats gonna happen.
btw science is Man trying to understand nature and how things work..alot are based on theories other then facts.
whats wrong with that? It helps humans



Science is always changing . . . new rules to science all the time . . .

EmperorPenguin wrote:A Ghost wrote:frozen fire wrote:I see your logic, if we all KNEW god existed we wouldnt have to HOPE he exists.
I never hoped that he would exist, neither have i come across people saying *jeez i hope God exists*. We know he does exist.I want to live my life in a way where I know whats gonna happen.
btw science is Man trying to understand nature and how things work..alot are based on theories other then facts.
whats wrong with that? It helps humans
I'm more in line with what Ghost is saying, though I do believe in a higher power(s). Ghost, if you put your faith or belief in science you are just as lost as those you mock. Science is always changing, what was "science" 100 years ago at times was nothing more then old men guessing. It's been fine tuned to what we know today but it is forever changing, we're finding new things, new animals, new plants, new rules to science all the time. You can't "know" what's going to happen based on science, you just have a general idea what SHOULD happen if all things involved follow the "laws" set forth through science. That's not to say it will unfold like it does.
I understand your stance, and I would never try to convience you otherwise. Because you believe in science doesn't mean you know more or less or have a better understanding then those that believe in "god" because science is far from perfect at this point.
And the reason there are many Gods in which people believe in may just be because there are many Gods. What's to say that people don't come from an assortment of Gods? Each one making a different type or race of person as they saw fit? I don't know if that's the truth but I like keeping an open mind and not being hardlined on any peticular belief.


Science is always changing, what was "science" 100 years ago at times was nothing more then old men guessing. It's been fine tuned to what we know today but it is forever changing, we're finding new things, new animals, new plants, new rules to science all the time. You can't "know" what's going to happen based on science, you just have a general idea what SHOULD happen if all things involved follow the "laws" set forth through science. That's not to say it will unfold like it does
I dont know whether or not god exists and never will, but Im not gonna say god doesnt exist because I dont know

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