Jesus: son of God or simply a great man?

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Jesus: son of God or simply a great man?

Postby king phoenix » February 28th, 2007, 5:59 pm

By now im sure most of us have seen or at least heard of the di vinci code! so lets hear it, is Jesus God's son or simply a great prophet!
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Re: Jesus: son of God or simply a great man?

Postby 'X' » February 28th, 2007, 6:50 pm

king phoenix wrote:By now im sure most of us have seen or at least heard of the di vinci code! so lets hear it, is Jesus God's son or simply a great prophet!



Prophet...
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Postby king phoenix » February 28th, 2007, 6:59 pm

is Jesus the son of God or simply a man? this question actually goes past whether or not your christian, after i saw the movie i did research of my own, there was actually a council of Nicea in 325 AD and at this meeting, consantine I made christianity the religion of the country! then all books and gopels of the bible where hand picked by man! at that time catholisism was heavy so to argue or disagree with the theory of the holy trinity was considered a heredic act and had many negative results! also in 1947 i believe, there where some ancient scrolls (NOG hamandy library?)uncovered in a cave in egypt, these scrolls where dated back to the time of christ, and in one of them was the gospels of phillip, and in this it soes say that" Jesus loved magdaline, more than any of his disciples and would often kiss her, at that point there is a whole in the text! so no one knows for sure, but to me it is obvious that there has been a lot of human tampering in what is christianity as we know it today!
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Re: Jesus: son of God or simply a great man?

Postby frozen fire » February 28th, 2007, 7:25 pm

'X' wrote:
king phoenix wrote:By now im sure most of us have seen or at least heard of the di vinci code! so lets hear it, is Jesus God's son or simply a great prophet!



Prophet...
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Postby looneytunes1 » March 1st, 2007, 12:51 am

Son of God.
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Re: Jesus: son of God or simply a great man?

Postby A Ghost » March 1st, 2007, 12:53 am

'X' wrote:
king phoenix wrote:By now im sure most of us have seen or at least heard of the di vinci code! so lets hear it, is Jesus God's son or simply a great prophet!



Prophet...


Too somewhat add to what X said, and Ive said it before.

Jesus never said he was the Son Of God.

Ever
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Re: Jesus: son of God or simply a great man?

Postby 'X' » March 1st, 2007, 1:07 am

king phoenix wrote:By now im sure most of us have seen or at least heard of the di vinci code! so lets hear it, is Jesus God's son or simply a great prophet!



I think you left out a option, to some, Jesus IS God... :shock:
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Postby worldwide » March 1st, 2007, 4:06 am

John 14:2 (King James Version)
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2In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
never make a perminent decision based on a temporary situation
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Postby Sentenza » March 1st, 2007, 4:23 am

king phoenix wrote:is Jesus the son of God or simply a man? this question actually goes past whether or not your christian, after i saw the movie i did research of my own, there was actually a council of Nicea in 325 AD and at this meeting, consantine I made christianity the religion of the country! then all books and gopels of the bible where hand picked by man! at that time catholisism was heavy so to argue or disagree with the theory of the holy trinity was considered a heredic act and had many negative results! also in 1947 i believe, there where some ancient scrolls (NOG hamandy library?)uncovered in a cave in egypt, these scrolls where dated back to the time of christ, and in one of them was the gospels of phillip, and in this it soes say that" Jesus loved magdaline, more than any of his disciples and would often kiss her, at that point there is a whole in the text! so no one knows for sure, but to me it is obvious that there has been a lot of human tampering in what is christianity as we know it today!


Are you talking about the Dead Sea Scrolls from Qumran?
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Postby frozen fire » March 1st, 2007, 9:28 am

SONS OF GOD:
The Bible ascribes more then one son to God.
(a) 'Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the SON OF GOD." LUKE 3:38
(b) "That the SONS OF GOD saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took wives of all which they chose. ". . when the SONS OF GOD came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown." GENESIS 6:2 and 4
(c) " . . Thus- saith the Lord, Israel is MY SON even my FIRSTBORN." EXODUS 4:22
(d) " . . and Ephraim is my FIRSTBORN," JEREMIAH 31:9
(e) " . . Thou (o David) ART MY SON; this day have I (God) BEGOTTEN thee. " PSALMS 2:7

("FIRST BORN:" How can there be two "firstborns"?)
("BEGOTTEN" How can God beget David at the age of forty?
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Re: Jesus: son of God or simply a great man?

Postby A Ghost » March 1st, 2007, 2:41 pm

'X' wrote:
king phoenix wrote:By now im sure most of us have seen or at least heard of the di vinci code! so lets hear it, is Jesus God's son or simply a great prophet!



I think you left out a option, to some, Jesus IS God... :shock:


My bad I think I meant to say that Jesus never said he was god
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Re: Jesus: son of God or simply a great man?

Postby frozen fire » March 1st, 2007, 3:53 pm

A Ghost wrote:
'X' wrote:
king phoenix wrote:By now im sure most of us have seen or at least heard of the di vinci code! so lets hear it, is Jesus God's son or simply a great prophet!



I think you left out a option, to some, Jesus IS God... :shock:


My bad I think I meant to say that Jesus never said he was god

nope he did not.

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Postby king phoenix » March 1st, 2007, 4:38 pm

Are you talking about the Dead Sea Scrolls from Qumran?[/quote]

yes i believe they are also referred to as the dead sea scrolls
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Postby Sentenza » March 1st, 2007, 4:58 pm

king phoenix wrote:Are you talking about the Dead Sea Scrolls from Qumran?


yes i believe they are also referred to as the dead sea scrolls[/quote]

But they have not yet been confirmed to be real. Even though the Vatican bought them and locked them up in their library available for no one....So you do the math.
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Postby king phoenix » March 1st, 2007, 5:06 pm

ah once again the mighty vatican suppresses all potential rivalry to their beliefs! i love it!
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Postby Sentenza » March 1st, 2007, 5:15 pm

king phoenix wrote:ah once again the mighty vatican suppresses all potential rivalry to their beliefs! i love it!


Seriously...Same shit, different period of time.
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Postby king phoenix » March 1st, 2007, 5:30 pm

i just dont understand why a "christian" can so easily talk down other religions when they dont truly know theirs! they only know what they are allowed to know by the governing bodies! and for those who are offended, know that i was raised catholic and that im not a muslim or jew!
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Postby 'X' » March 1st, 2007, 5:56 pm

king phoenix wrote: "christian"..... they only know what they are allowed to know



Or what they care to know. Or what they want to pick and choose of their book on what to believe... :arrow:
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Postby Sentenza » March 1st, 2007, 6:01 pm

I dont have any problems with a christian for that matter, basically i am one myself, but i do have a problem with the church and its twisted interpretations of various things.
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Postby 'X' » March 1st, 2007, 6:05 pm

Sentenza wrote: i do have a problem with the church and its twisted interpretations of various things.



Which are plentiful...
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Re: Jesus: son of God or simply a great man?

Postby A Ghost » March 1st, 2007, 6:21 pm

frozen fire wrote:
A Ghost wrote:
'X' wrote:
king phoenix wrote:By now im sure most of us have seen or at least heard of the di vinci code! so lets hear it, is Jesus God's son or simply a great prophet!



I think you left out a option, to some, Jesus IS God... :shock:


My bad I think I meant to say that Jesus never said he was god

nope he did not.

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LOL @ "Catherine Zita Jones throatjob" :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby A Ghost » March 1st, 2007, 6:23 pm

'X' wrote:
king phoenix wrote: "christian"..... they only know what they are allowed to know



Or what they care to know. Or what they want to pick and choose of their book on what to believe... :arrow:


I found a site that had a whole bunch of bible quotes talking about how "God" told people to commit mass rapes and murders :shock: :shock:

And they are real bible qoutes.
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Postby frozen fire » March 1st, 2007, 10:57 pm

let me say that i respect the bible and the torat, i resect the prophet jesus and prophet moses!
but the bible they speak of, is not the bible i speak of, nor is the prophets they speak of, our prophets.
the truth has been corrupted by the passage of time, and by the lies of men.

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Postby A Ghost » March 1st, 2007, 11:03 pm

frozen fire wrote:let me say that i respect the bible and the torat, i resect the prophet jesus and prophet moses!
but the bible they speak of, is not the bible i speak of, nor is the prophets they speak of, our prophets.
the truth has been corrupted by the passage of time, and by the lies of men.

peace.


...thats deep
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Postby Sentenza » March 2nd, 2007, 1:01 am

'X' wrote:
Sentenza wrote: i do have a problem with the church and its twisted interpretations of various things.



Which are plentiful...


Yea. I mean look at history, how many times did they fuck up? 100x? 1000x?
I believe in Religion without a church and most of those zealots of the past are right now in hell dancing with the devil.
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Postby Noog » March 2nd, 2007, 5:35 am

:twisted: Yeah, but he's still got the best tunes...
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Postby Sentenza » March 2nd, 2007, 9:07 am

Noog wrote::twisted: Yeah, but he's still got the best tunes...


But i heard that in hell the beer glasses have holes and the women dont... :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:
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Postby Christina Marie » March 2nd, 2007, 3:42 pm

Sentenza wrote:
Noog wrote::twisted: Yeah, but he's still got the best tunes...


But i heard that in hell the beer glasses have holes and the women dont... :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:


:shock:
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Postby Sentenza » March 3rd, 2007, 10:06 pm

Christina Marie wrote:
Sentenza wrote:
Noog wrote::twisted: Yeah, but he's still got the best tunes...


But i heard that in hell the beer glasses have holes and the women dont... :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:


:shock:


Lol...sorry bout that... :wink:
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Postby king phoenix » March 5th, 2007, 1:14 pm

Sentenza wrote:
Christina Marie wrote:
Sentenza wrote:
Noog wrote::twisted: Yeah, but he's still got the best tunes...


But i heard that in hell the beer glasses have holes and the women dont... :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:


:shock:


Lol...sorry bout that... :wink:



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Postby justice league » March 12th, 2007, 6:42 am

If we are children of God
and God has no religion.

the question is like asking
if humans are homosapiens
or intelligent beings.

only religions need a fairytale to create a belief system

Truly spiritual people have a better understanding of the universe than that! Even the ones that buy into religion look past the stories as metaphors.
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