Does It Make Any Sense To Be Black And Christian?

[justice league]

The reason why I said you have a prejudice against Islam is becaue of some of the attacks you made on Muhummad's character on the site before, coupled with this current barrage of stereotypes. The only reason I addressed only one of your 9 comments is because that comment was the most retarded comment you made and I feel someone of your intelligence wouldn't have such a great lapse into idiocy.

Everytime you go to a black mosque or masjid, in LA or in Harlem, you are getting hit up to buy something. It can anything from cookies, to a religious book, or anything and I think that the level of capitalism and commerce taking place at a black masjid is excessive for a place of worship. I got nothing against a man's hustle, but I think it is degrading to a place of worship.
And if you doubt the accuracy of anything I said about Muhammad you should address them there, I never attacked Muhammad, just made factual statements about a man revered by many that for example took a 6 year old girl for him. I guess that is attacking him, right?

as did Christ.... and so many others...

[AllhoodPublications]

Everytime you go to a black mosque or masjid, in LA or in Harlem, you are getting hit up to buy something. It can anything from cookies, to a religious book, or anything and I think that the level of capitalism and commerce taking place at a black masjid is excessive for a place of worship.

I use to say the exact samething.. but when I was young my mother explained to me these places have bills to pay (travel, security, time). Churches beg for money also.. and offer front seats for a fee- to rich people. Many past the bowl around repeatedly. And they hardly ever cease to run the line about giving 10% of your earnings to god. And some sell Bibles too.

you have some good points that I agree with but this one is weak... seems you are overlooking what is normal practice in most big churches.

[MiChuhSuh]

Everytime you go to a black mosque or masjid, in LA or in Harlem, you are getting hit up to buy something. It can anything from cookies, to a religious book, or anything and I think that the level of capitalism and commerce taking place at a black masjid is excessive for a place of worship.

I use to say the exact samething.. but when I was young my mother explained to me these places have bills to pay (travel, security, time). Churches beg for money also.. and offer front seats for a fee- to rich people. Many past the bowl around repeatedly. And they hardly ever cease to run the line about giving 10% of your earnings to god. And some sell Bibles too.

you have some good points that I agree with but this one is weak... seems you are overlooking what is normal practice in most big churches.

The key here is big churches. My church started off not having a building for 15 years, until 2000 they rented an elementary school on the weekends. Even at some large churches they will not emphasize tithing. It's something you should do out of you own heart, not pressure or compulsion:

2 Corinthians 9:7
Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

That being said, there are countless people hustling Christians in the church. Tim LaHaye from a few years back comes to mind, as well as many prominent public figures in the Evangelical world (700 Club). Religion always has and always will be abused for money; there's no such thing as new game. Look in the Tanakh, Bible, Qu'ran, any ancient text and there will be stories about it thousands of years old.

http://www.streetgangs.com/billboard/vi ... hp?t=37056
http://apmagazine.proboards74.com/index ... 996&page=1

[MiChuhSuh]

Everytime you go to a black mosque or masjid, in LA or in Harlem, you are getting hit up to buy something. It can anything from cookies, to a religious book, or anything and I think that the level of capitalism and commerce taking place at a black masjid is excessive for a place of worship.

I use to say the exact samething.. but when I was young my mother explained to me these places have bills to pay (travel, security, time). Churches beg for money also.. and offer front seats for a fee- to rich people. Many past the bowl around repeatedly. And they hardly ever cease to run the line about giving 10% of your earnings to god. And some sell Bibles too.

you have some good points that I agree with but this one is weak... seems you are overlooking what is normal practice in most big churches.

The key here is big churches. My church started off not having a building for 15 years, until 2000 they rented an elementary school on the weekends. Even at some large churches they will not emphasize tithing. It's something you should do out of you own heart, not pressure or compulsion:

2 Corinthians 9:7
Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

That being said, there are countless people hustling Christians in the church. Tim LaHaye from a few years back comes to mind, as well as many prominent public figures in the Evangelical world (700 Club). Religion always has and always will be abused for money; there's no such thing as new game. Look in the Tanakh, Bible, Qu'ran, any ancient text and there will be stories about it thousands of years old.

http://www.streetgangs.com/billboard/vi ... hp?t=37056
http://apmagazine.proboards74.com/index ... 996&page=1

[AllhoodPublications]

^ http://www.orlutheran.com/html/stew.html

*Giving money to the church on Sunday morning is at least as old as the Christian Church. St. Paul speaks of it, charging the Corinthians to give a certain amount on the first day of the week.

*In our day there is both confusion and hostility surrounding this subject, no doubt due to infamous televangelists who have fleeced their followers in recent years.

*Is giving money to God optional? Absolutely not! Christians are commanded by God to give of their possessions to the work of God.

*It is only in this context that giving money for God's work can be correctly understood. The reason Christ and the apostles can so matter-of-factly command us to give (e.g., Luke 6:38; 11:41; Gal. 6:6), is because it is only natural that we would give back to God what He has first given to us. No one is exempted from this command to give. It has nothing to do with income or means (remember the widow -- Mark 12:41-44!). Everyone can give something for everyone has something from God -- no matter how little. Not that we are actually giving to God, as if He needed our gifts. Rather, we give to support His work here on earth

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at some large churches they will not emphasize tithing. It's something you should do out of you own heart, not pressure or compulsion:

Quote:
2 Corinthians 9:7
Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

Thats what they teach now.. In the Old Testament, it was 10% of one's possessions, commanded by God (Lev. 27:30-32). In the Hebrew, the word for tithe means "a tenth" of something.

Fact is... someone has to pay the bills, pay for the service, or pay for Gods work being done. Just because its a mosque doesn't make it worse than the next church service. If its one thing I agree with 'X' on, its the brainwashing of Black Americans that think everything white is right, and everything Black is bad.

[alexalonso]

Everytime you go to a black mosque or masjid, in LA or in Harlem, you are getting hit up to buy something. It can anything from cookies, to a religious book, or anything and I think that the level of capitalism and commerce taking place at a black masjid is excessive for a place of worship.

I use to say the exact samething.. but when I was young my mother explained to me these places have bills to pay (travel, security, time). Churches beg for money also.. and offer front seats for a fee- to rich people. Many past the bowl around repeatedly. And they hardly ever cease to run the line about giving 10% of your earnings to god. And some sell Bibles too.

you have some good points that I agree with but this one is weak... seems you are overlooking what is normal practice in most big churches.

Giving donations to a church is one thing, but turning the church or mosque into a place of commerce is another. I am equally disgusted by these pimping preachers that you see on TV late at night that want to charge you for a prayer call. These are all the anti-christ and they will be dealt with in due time.

[MiChuhSuh]

Fact is... someone has to pay the bills, pay for the service, or pay for Gods work being done. Just because its a mosque doesn't make it worse than the next church service. If its one thing I agree with 'X' on, its the brainwashing of Black Americans that think everything white is right, and everything Black is bad.

It disgusts me more when a church tries to pimp the congregation, my links point mostly to criticisms of churches. I'm not gonna get into black/white stuff.

Giving donations to a church is one thing, but turning the church or mosque into a place of commerce is another. I am equally disgusted by these pimping preachers that you see on TV late at night that want to charge you for a prayer call. These are all the anti-christ and they will be dealt with in due time.

Yup.

[AllhoodPublications]

I got nothing against a man's hustle, but I think it is degrading to a place of worship.

as did Christ.... and so many others...

Agreed, but playing with little boys and losing law suits for child molestation doesn't make the Catholic Church look like a place that I would want to worship in either..

[AllhoodPublications]

It disgusts me more when a church tries to pimp the congregation, my links point mostly to criticisms of churches. Yup.

I bet 'X' would rather be pimped by Farrakhan than screwed by the Pope.

[justice league]

Church is for people that cant find their own faith in God.

I dont need tobe told what i ahve always known..... there is a Supreme Being... and 'He' has no religion or human attributes as we would like to define them, but is bigger and more impressive than we can imagine.

When God fits in a box (or ideal), God is no longer omnipotent

[alexalonso]

It disgusts me more when a church tries to pimp the congregation, my links point mostly to criticisms of churches. Yup.

I bet 'X' would rather be pimped by Farrakhan than screwed by the Pope.

the Pope and Farrakhan are one in the same. The NOI and the Catholic church, and many other religions are serving self interests. But this string is called "Does It Make Any Sense To Be Black And Christian?" and I dont see why it does not make sense for a person of any race to be a christian. I am curious to know why should a black person be more cautious about Christianity?

[Sentenza]

It disgusts me more when a church tries to pimp the congregation, my links point mostly to criticisms of churches. Yup.

I bet 'X' would rather be pimped by Farrakhan than screwed by the Pope.

the Pope and Farrakhan are one in the same. The NOI and the Catholic church, and many other religions are serving self interests. But this string is called "Does It Make Any Sense To Be Black And Christian?" and I dont see why it does not make sense for a person of any race to be a christian. I am curious to know why should a black person be more cautious about Christianity?

Dont you think it is because many blacks think it is the religion of the "oppressor"?

[MiChuhSuh]

It disgusts me more when a church tries to pimp the congregation, my links point mostly to criticisms of churches. Yup.

I bet 'X' would rather be pimped by Farrakhan than screwed by the Pope.

I would rather not be pimped or screwed by anyone.

The pope is just a political figurehead, and this new guy is f*cking up. John Paul II understood what his real position was and used it for the best (fighting Communism and dictatorships). This new guy actually thinks he's the mouthpiece of God or something.

Don't worry, one day the Mother Plane will come and take Farrakhan and X back
http://www.finalcall.com/MLFspeaks/destruction.html

[Sentenza]

It disgusts me more when a church tries to pimp the congregation, my links point mostly to criticisms of churches. Yup.

I bet 'X' would rather be pimped by Farrakhan than screwed by the Pope.

I would rather not be pimped or screwed by anyone.

The pope is just a political figurehead, and this new guy is f*cking up. John Paul II understood what his real position was and used it for the best (fighting Communism and dictatorships). This new guy actually thinks he's the mouthpiece of God or something.

The New Pope is definitely about power and not reconciliation, like John Paul II. Shame on us that hes german too.

[Flex]

It makes no more sense than being Black and Muslim. African ethnic groups had their own religious practices before Christianity and Islam. But both Islam and Christianity are held in highest regard by Black people.

Neither Christianity or Islam came out of Africa, but blacks look down on the original religions of the African continent as false. They were both spread through war and pillaging and forced upon our African brothers. Convert or die.

[YP]

Christianity did come from Africa...because the Falasha's or ethiopian jews were the first jews and thus comes christianity....it has just been westernized...CHristianity is the true religion...islam is made from a prophecy? there are 30,000 other religions based on that same pretense...i.e mormanism....russelites = Jehova's witnesses etc

man takes and twists things...people are lazy....u can go to the club and not church? come on......there is no better sensation that GODS WIsDOM

TO gOD BE THE GLORY...

[YP]

Christianity did come from Africa...because the Falasha's or ethiopian jews were the first jews and thus comes christianity....it has just been westernized...CHristianity is the true religion...islam is made from a prophecy? there are 30,000 other religions based on that same pretense...i.e mormanism....russelites = Jehova's witnesses etc

man takes and twists things...people are lazy....u can go to the club and not church? come on......there is no better sensation that GODS WIsDOM

TO gOD BE THE GLORY...

[YP]

Christianity did come from Africa...because the Falasha's or ethiopian jews were the first jews and thus comes christianity....it has just been westernized...CHristianity is the true religion...islam is made from a prophecy? there are 30,000 other religions based on that same pretense...i.e mormanism....russelites = Jehova's witnesses etc

man takes and twists things...people are lazy....u can go to the club and not church? come on......there is no better sensation that GODS WIsDOM

TO gOD BE THE GLORY...

[calina]

Rofl.. nothing here even worth responding to.

yet you left your little piece.......bravo

religion is not the same as faith,

i believe that god exsists and crist was the son of god, but i also believe that we all have the power to be angles or a demond, every day you see the beauty of humans being angles and humans being demons.

dont you just think that god is actualy just a big fuzzy ball of energy that when we die we will join him/her/it.

one thing is for sure, if ya live ya life as a bad-ass-mo-fo, worrieing about what colour he is is the last thing you should be worried about, ya-get-me!

be inspired
Calio

[YP]

I didnt mean to post that....a gang of times over....but yeah Christianity is the TRUTH....actually " THE WAY"....man comes along and fuqs things up.....

JUST DO AS JESUS DID...." THATS THE WAY"

TO GOD BE THE GLORY