Does It Make Any Sense To Be Black And Christian?

Religion is probably the biggest divider in world history, but for those that believe in God it is central to our existence. Share your views.

Re: Does It Make Any Sense To Be Black And Christian?

Postby MiChuhSuh » November 28th, 2005, 6:17 pm

johnnyblac wrote:
End Violence NOW wrote:
That's true, except I think Christmas by itself, without any magical Santa Claus stuff, is completely acceptable as a holiday, why not celebrate if you focus on Jesus and not on some Xbox 360 you want under a tree.

Gift exchange is okay as long as you keep the focus of Jesus and in this case Christian fellowship and generosity.


About the changing names to find your "roots", a good short story (like 3 pages) to read is "Everyday Use: for you grandmama", it's a good read.


how is it exceptable when jesus wasn't even born in december? besides christmas can be traced back before jesus was even born.


1. No one knows when Jesus was born in this day and age, until we find the census records from the Roman empire, and most of those were destroyed when Rome fell. The closest we got was finding Pontius Pilot's records.

2. I realize that the December date was arbitrarily chosen, but don't say "Christmas" can be traced to before Jesus. There was (past tense) a pagan holiday in December, and so the Christian leaders during that time decided to celebrate Jesus on the same day so that people would have to serioiusly choose which religion to follow (they wanted to prevent it being a non-religious holiday to just party like so many people do today)
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Postby MiChuhSuh » November 28th, 2005, 6:21 pm

purplecityhello wrote:Alonso brings up many valid points

But all in all the main theme of Islam is that every man is born pure and through charity and good will to man he will see his way to paradise

christians believe you are born in sin and mans true nature is wickedness but through repentance and doing good deeds he will see his way to heaven

basically its whatever works better for you

I study Islam but not as a religion - since religion is based on a system of beliefs but as a science (shown and proven facts)

heres a link to what we teach http://pandora.cs.elon.edu/an/What.html


Dog that isn't even what the Koran says, be more specific in saying "we" = 5%'ters
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Postby MiChuhSuh » November 28th, 2005, 6:38 pm

Arm, Leg, Leg, Arm, Head.


Why would "Allah" make any sense to have an acronym in English when in Arabic (which is it's original language) it wouldn't make any sense?

And there are other ways to translate "Allah" from this:
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(the top one)
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Re: Does It Make Any Sense To Be Black And Christian?

Postby Anonymous20 » November 28th, 2005, 9:36 pm

johnnyblac wrote:
End Violence NOW wrote:
That's true, except I think Christmas by itself, without any magical Santa Claus stuff, is completely acceptable as a holiday, why not celebrate if you focus on Jesus and not on some Xbox 360 you want under a tree.

Gift exchange is okay as long as you keep the focus of Jesus and in this case Christian fellowship and generosity.


About the changing names to find your "roots", a good short story (like 3 pages) to read is "Everyday Use: for you grandmama", it's a good read.


how is it exceptable when jesus wasn't even born in december? besides christmas can be traced back before jesus was even born.


Noone knows the date of Jesus' birth, but we know for a fact that it was not on a cold December in Israel. We do know that he was born in a manger and that the farm animals were outside on the field. In Israel, in December they bring the animals inside. Jesus was born in the month Ethanim which would fall somewhere from September - October. We know this because Jesus was born 6 months after John the Baptist. Jesus was born in the fall, which is consistent with the account of his birth.

But the subject of why Blacks shouldn't be Christian has not been thoroughly explained according to scripture. Can anyone provide compelling information from the scriptures that would turn Blacks away from Christianity.
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Re: Does It Make Any Sense To Be Black And Christian?

Postby black » November 29th, 2005, 12:12 am

End Violence NOW wrote:
johnnyblac wrote:
End Violence NOW wrote:
That's true, except I think Christmas by itself, without any magical Santa Claus stuff, is completely acceptable as a holiday, why not celebrate if you focus on Jesus and not on some Xbox 360 you want under a tree.

Gift exchange is okay as long as you keep the focus of Jesus and in this case Christian fellowship and generosity.


About the changing names to find your "roots", a good short story (like 3 pages) to read is "Everyday Use: for you grandmama", it's a good read.


how is it exceptable when jesus wasn't even born in december? besides christmas can be traced back before jesus was even born.


1. No one knows when Jesus was born in this day and age, until we find the census records from the Roman empire, and most of those were destroyed when Rome fell. The closest we got was finding Pontius Pilot's records.

2. I realize that the December date was arbitrarily chosen, but don't say "Christmas" can be traced to before Jesus. There was (past tense) a pagan holiday in December, and so the Christian leaders during that time decided to celebrate Jesus on the same day so that people would have to serioiusly choose which religion to follow (they wanted to prevent it being a non-religious holiday to just party like so many people do today)


the word christmas came after jesus, but many of the christmas traditions come from pagans at the time of babylon when they worshipped the deity marduk. there for it is traced back before jesus was born like i said.
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Re: Does It Make Any Sense To Be Black And Christian?

Postby black » November 29th, 2005, 12:47 am

alonso wrote:
Noone knows the date of Jesus' birth, but we know for a fact that it was not on a cold December in Israel. We do know that he was born in a manger and that the farm animals were outside on the field. In Israel, in December they bring the animals inside. Jesus was born in the month Ethanim which would fall somewhere from September - October. We know this because Jesus was born 6 months after John the Baptist. Jesus was born in the fall, which is consistent with the account of his birth.

But the subject of why Blacks shouldn't be Christian has not been thoroughly explained according to scripture. Can anyone provide compelling information from the scriptures that would turn Blacks away from Christianity.


exactly he wasn't born in december. i think the question is doesn't it make sense for anyone to be a christian in this day in time. the bible speaks of a comforter coming after jesus. sometimes it says the comforter is the holy ghost other times it just says comforter. John 15:26, John 14:26, John 16:7-14. who exactly is this comforter? is he another prophet come to show us the way?
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Re: Does It Make Any Sense To Be Black And Christian?

Postby MiChuhSuh » November 29th, 2005, 1:30 pm

johnnyblac wrote:
alonso wrote:
Noone knows the date of Jesus' birth, but we know for a fact that it was not on a cold December in Israel. We do know that he was born in a manger and that the farm animals were outside on the field. In Israel, in December they bring the animals inside. Jesus was born in the month Ethanim which would fall somewhere from September - October. We know this because Jesus was born 6 months after John the Baptist. Jesus was born in the fall, which is consistent with the account of his birth.

But the subject of why Blacks shouldn't be Christian has not been thoroughly explained according to scripture. Can anyone provide compelling information from the scriptures that would turn Blacks away from Christianity.


exactly he wasn't born in december. i think the question is doesn't it make sense for anyone to be a christian in this day in time. the bible speaks of a comforter coming after jesus. sometimes it says the comforter is the holy ghost other times it just says comforter. John 15:26, John 14:26, John 16:7-14. who exactly is this comforter? is he another prophet come to show us the way?


I am surprised that for all the verses you know you have no understanding of basic Christianity. The comforter is the Holy Spirit, he came at the Pentecost.

But Muslims claim that the comforter is Muhammed, but how is Muhammed a "holy ghost"?
But then they say the Bible was "altered" so it's really about who you believe.


And Alonso, there is really nothing that would prevent blacks from being Christian. MLK Jr. was a baptist minister and I can honestly say that he had done more for civil rights in America than any other black leader. We don't have a "Malcolm X Day" do we? Furthermore in the bible there are several passages against any for of discrimination, from Genesis to the Laws of Moses, to Jesus accepting all people, to Paul saying that Gentiles should not be rejected by the Jews, and so on.
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Re: Does It Make Any Sense To Be Black And Christian?

Postby TarHeelRED » November 30th, 2005, 12:44 am

alonso wrote:
Noone knows the date of Jesus' birth, but we know for a fact that it was not on a cold December in Israel. We do know that he was born in a manger and that the farm animals were outside on the field. In Israel, in December they bring the animals inside. Jesus was born in the month Ethanim which would fall somewhere from September - October. We know this because Jesus was born 6 months after John the Baptist. Jesus was born in the fall, which is consistent with the account of his birth.


I comply that Jesus was born in the fall. But as far as no one knowing his birth.....I'm contentious with that. I know....it's formidable 2 believe but 4 infalliability check out this link. It's I reckon 36 min. long but if u listen 2 the UTTER audio you'll be able 2 fathom.
www.biblelineministries.org/onlineaudio, and subsequently click on the Birthdate of Christ.
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Postby TarHeelRED » November 30th, 2005, 12:48 am

LINK ERROR!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is the correct link, www.biblelineministries.org/onlineaudio/ and subsequently click on the Birthdate of Christ.
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Re: Does It Make Any Sense To Be Black And Christian?

Postby black » November 30th, 2005, 1:21 am

End Violence NOW wrote:
We don't have a "Malcolm X Day" do we?


the reason we have a mlk day is because the white folks want you to be more like him. mlk was preaching if you get slapped turn the other cheek. they don't want you te be like malcom x or the panthers, because malcom was preachin pick up a gun and the panthers actually did it. if you ask me we should have a day in august to celebrate black august but them white folks don't want that.
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Re: Does It Make Any Sense To Be Black And Christian?

Postby black » November 30th, 2005, 2:01 am

End Violence NOW wrote:
I am surprised that for all the verses you know you have no understanding of basic Christianity. The comforter is the Holy Spirit, he came at the Pentecost.


maybe i don't have an understanding of basic christianity. but answer me this, how can the holy spirit be the comforter if the holy spirit already existed before the pentecost. jesus(peace be unto him) was filled with the spirit when he was baptized. (mathew 3:16), it was in moses (Numbers 11:16-17), it was in sampson (Judges 13:24-25) and in joshua (Numbers 27:18).

in I corinthians it says the spirit has many diversities but it is the same spirit, whether it be wisdom, knowledge, faith, healing, miracles, prophecy, talking in tongues and the interpretation of tongues. so if the prophets and servants of god before jesus (peace be unto him) were filled with the holy spirit why would jesus (peace be unto him) have to die in order for the holy spirit to come if it already existed in the phophets and servants before him.
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Postby black » November 30th, 2005, 2:09 am

need some edit buttons.....

Numbers 27:18
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Re: Does It Make Any Sense To Be Black And Christian?

Postby black » November 30th, 2005, 2:48 am

End Violence NOW wrote:
But Muslims claim that the comforter is Muhammed, but how is Muhammed a "holy ghost"?
But then they say the Bible was "altered" so it's really about who you believe.


everyone knows that the holy spirit isn't physical. it has to fill you, so how do you know that the holy spirit didn't fill muhammed (peace be unto him).

i am neither a muslim or a christian but i believe that the qur'an and the bible both have some alterations to it. for example i can tell the same story to 10 different people and by the end of the week a hundred people would have heard the story told a different way.

so what makes you think that both of these books, which are thousands of years old haven't been altered in some way. they both have the same people in them but they use different names and the stories are even told different.
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Re: Does It Make Any Sense To Be Black And Christian?

Postby Anonymous20 » November 30th, 2005, 4:23 am

End Violence NOW wrote:

And Alonso, there is really nothing that would prevent blacks from being Christian. MLK Jr. was a baptist minister and I can honestly say that he had done more for civil rights in America than any other black leader. We don't have a "Malcolm X Day" do we? Furthermore in the bible there are several passages against any for of discrimination, from Genesis to the Laws of Moses, to Jesus accepting all people, to Paul saying that Gentiles should not be rejected by the Jews, and so on.


I dont see any logical reason why Blacks should not be Christians. If it is not good enough for Black people, then it should not be good enough for the rest of humanity. If there is a specific race related issue that pits Black against Christianity that is Scripturally based, would love to hear it.
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Re: Does It Make Any Sense To Be Black And Christian?

Postby MiChuhSuh » November 30th, 2005, 6:25 pm

johnnyblac wrote:
End Violence NOW wrote:
We don't have a "Malcolm X Day" do we?


the reason we have a mlk day is because the white folks want you to be more like him. mlk was preaching if you get slapped turn the other cheek. they don't want you te be like malcom x or the panthers, because malcom was preachin pick up a gun and the panthers actually did it. if you ask me we should have a day in august to celebrate black august but them white folks don't want that.


We have a whole MONTH for Black History Month, what do you mean "white folks don't want that"? You know in America that is the only race-related month they even have?

Even a frickin corporation McDonalds is talking about 'celebrating black history 365" and you are saying that they don't celebrate a "black" day because "white folks don't want that"?????????

Do you even live in America?
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Re: Does It Make Any Sense To Be Black And Christian?

Postby MiChuhSuh » November 30th, 2005, 6:28 pm

johnnyblac wrote:
End Violence NOW wrote:
But Muslims claim that the comforter is Muhammed, but how is Muhammed a "holy ghost"?
But then they say the Bible was "altered" so it's really about who you believe.


everyone knows that the holy spirit isn't physical. it has to fill you, so how do you know that the holy spirit didn't fill muhammed (peace be unto him).

i am neither a muslim or a christian but i believe that the qur'an and the bible both have some alterations to it. for example i can tell the same story to 10 different people and by the end of the week a hundred people would have heard the story told a different way.

so what makes you think that both of these books, which are thousands of years old haven't been altered in some way. they both have the same people in them but they use different names and the stories are even told different.


That is what atheists have been saying, but the scrolls that they were translating from matched up with teh Dead Sea Scrolls that they found which have been untouched since about 300 AD (not sure on exact date)and so that means that the Bible is the most carefully preserved book in the world. If you look at the consistancy between the scrolls since right before they discovered the Dead Sea scrolls and after, you can see accuracy
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Re: Does It Make Any Sense To Be Black And Christian?

Postby MiChuhSuh » November 30th, 2005, 6:44 pm

johnnyblac wrote:
End Violence NOW wrote:
But Muslims claim that the comforter is Muhammed, but how is Muhammed a "holy ghost"?
But then they say the Bible was "altered" so it's really about who you believe.


everyone knows that the holy spirit isn't physical. it has to fill you, so how do you know that the holy spirit didn't fill muhammed (peace be unto him).

i am neither a muslim or a christian but i believe that the qur'an and the bible both have some alterations to it. for example i can tell the same story to 10 different people and by the end of the week a hundred people would have heard the story told a different way.

so what makes you think that both of these books, which are thousands of years old haven't been altered in some way. they both have the same people in them but they use different names and the stories are even told different.


And not nearly enough people celebrate black august to have a national holiday, that is why. Otherwise I can say today is my birthday and invites everyone in the phonebook and say "look it's a holiday"
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Re: Does It Make Any Sense To Be Black And Christian?

Postby TarHeelRED » November 30th, 2005, 9:08 pm

johnnyblac wrote: why would jesus (peace be unto him) have to die in order for the holy spirit to come if it already existed in the phophets and servants before him.


First off, Jesus didn't have 2 succomb(die) in order 4 the Holy Spirit 2 come. Jesus died 4 the pardoning of OURsins. Hebrews 9:22 reads, And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood(of the Messiah) is no remission, see also Heb.10:4, and Ephesians 1:7.
Secondly, it was imperative 4 Mr.Jesus 2 ascend 2 the Father so that the HS could descend and dwell internally with us, John 16:7; Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. If u read John 16:8-15, these verses imply the role or purpose of the HS. See also John 14:26, 14:2-3. Romans 8, 2nd Corinthians 3, and Gal 5.
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Postby Oaktown_G » November 30th, 2005, 10:56 pm

Blaccs are supossed to c christians but none do it right or any one else.My dad is real into the bible and history jesus was born in september he was blacc to and if you want proof cuz it said he was the color of the ground and had hair like sheeps wool and I will look for where it said that and post it later if you have questions.Blaccs are also really known as isreal(and no i'm not a muslim but a true christian) the so called jews took our name they are the ettimites but we are isreal or jews.I know this is killin you if you are white or jewish :lol: but almost everbody from the old testemant to the new testemant was blacc.There were whites but blaccs are the chosen people.Another thing about church you are supposed to do the sabbath or go to church on the 7th day of the week.I want everybody to look at your calender sunday is the first day of the week not the 7th.Oh and for the people that say they are saved how can you c saved but you have to c judged by christ? :lol: :lol: Man this is crazy i'm a young nigga spittin this true knowledge.
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Postby MiChuhSuh » December 1st, 2005, 6:32 pm

Oaktown_G wrote:Blaccs are supossed to be christians but none do it right or any one else.My dad is real into the bible and history jesus was born in september he was black to and if you want proof because it said he was the color of the ground and had hair like sheeps wool and I will look for where it said that and post it later if you have questions.Blaccs are also really known as isreal(and no i'm not a muslim but a true christian) the so called jews took our name they are the ettimites but we are isreal or jews.I know this is killin you if you are white or jewish :lol: but almost everbody from the old testemant to the new testemant was black.There were whites but blaccs are the chosen people.Another thing about church you are supposed to do the sabbath or go to church on the 7th day of the week.I want everybody to look at your calender sunday is the first day of the week not the 7th.Oh and for the people that say they are saved how can you be saved but you have to be judged by christ? :lol: :lol: Man this is crazy i'm a young nigga spittin this true knowledge.


Just from this alone I can tell that you never left the country, have you?

I many countries, they have the calender set up so that Sunday is the last day. In Mexico and basically all the Spanish-speaking nations, the name of Sunday is still "sabado", or "Sabbath", and it is the last day of the week. For some reason, it changed in some countires, many countries in fact, and expecially because it is this way in America, many countries have adopted the "American style" weekend of Saturday and Sunday despite what their calender says.

Your information has a strong American bias, sounds more like a Christian version of teh 5% "Arm Leg Leg Arm Head" theory, except with dates instead of letters.

By the way, there are two black tribes that are now located in southern Africa by migration that ARE actually Hebrew so you are partially correct.
Everyone was skeptical about their story of being the remaining lost tribes, but actually some professors under teh National Geographic did genetically link them to Hebrews. There is a actually a gene strand that was found (amazingly) only in Aaron's descendents, aka the "priestly" group of the Jews, and this same strand was found in the priestly cast of the African tribes there. This is undeniable evidence that despite their appearance being exactly the same as their surrounding tribes, they are genitically Hebrew. There wasn't even mixing as this gene strand (think they nicknamed it the "Aaronic strand" or something) is VERY weak in mixed blood and is basically undetected in mixed blood, and so there is some debate as to how they diverged from other Hebrew tribes, and some professors at a nearby university are working with their elders and priests to try to find out their history.



BUT this was the only confirmed group of black Hebrews so far, since most black Hebrews in Israel today came over from Egypt during the Exodus and basically assimilated culturally (hey I would to if I saw the Nile in blood and plagues and the sun blocked out and stuff lol)

The idea that most people in the Bible are black is not only easily disputed but IRRELEVANT to some extent if you are talking about basic levels of theology since Paul wrote "there is no longer Jew or Gentile" because at the end, we will have new bodies.

If you want to get into deep theology though, it does matter that one group, the Jews, were used to spread the Gospel to others because in other spin-off religions, they say prophets came from everywhere and converge, so this seperates Judaism/Christianity from other religions, even Islam, which says God was revealed to other nations outside of the prophets mentioned in the Bible. This also seperates Christianity from Mormons, who believe that Jesus went to South America (not kidding).
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Postby Oaktown_G » December 1st, 2005, 11:05 pm

I'm gonna get some more info and gonna go a little furthere with it but I feel where you comin from.
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Postby TarHeelRED » December 1st, 2005, 11:46 pm

Oaktown_G wrote:Another thing about church you are supposed to do the sabbath or go to church on the 7th day of the week.I want everybody to look at your calender sunday is the first day of the week not the 7th. Man this is crazy i'm a young nigga spittin this true knowledge.


Pertaining 2 the observing of the Sabbath, in the Mosaic Law it was an edict 2 esteem the Sabbath on a Saturday(the Biblical Sabbath). This is verily indeed. BUT being that we're no longer bound by the law(Law of Moses) this no longer applies. Romans 6:14 says, For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under law(the Law of Moses) but under grace.
Moreover, Romans 14:5-6 reads as thus, One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. LET EVERY MAN BE FULLY PERSUADED IN HIS OWN MIND.He that regardeth(observes) the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it.......
So therefore any day that 1 elects 2 sanctify as his Sabbath unto the Lord, that's his or her day. The day per se is futile, because everyday is the LORD's day. We ought 2 exhort Mr.Jesus everyday. The grave thing is that WE SAT ASIDE AT LEAST 1 DAY out of every week where we abate toiling(unless it's auspicious(profitable to 1's self or profitable 2 another: read Matthew 12:11-12) and utterly devote that day 2 Mr.Jesus.


[quote=Oaktown_G]Man this is crazy I'm a young nigga spitting this true knowledge.[/quote]

Whoa Oaktown G!!! I can clearly behold that u have an ample thirst for God. But let's not get over-zealous and haughty. Many of your assertions were incorrect. James 1:5 says, If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. B4 u preceed 2 read the Bible, pray and ask the Holy Spirit 2 lead you and guide you and bestow you knowledge and understanding. I'm not trying 2 debase u dog. I just want 2 charge or admonish u subtly. Because genuinely, NOBODY understands and knows the FULL essence of YHWH(Romans 3:11).

AND IF ANY MAN THINK HE KNOWETH ANYTHING, HE KNOWETH NOTHING YET AS HE OUGHT TO KNOW. 1 Corinthians 8:2
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Postby MiChuhSuh » December 2nd, 2005, 12:13 am

^^^

Plus in many countries, Monday is the first day of the week, not sunday, and sunday is the last day. Calender have changed over time, the Romans only had accurate enough info to have about 10 months until they added August (after Ceaser's son, Octavian Augustus), and same with October.

There were more calender changes too, and besides, the traditional Jewish calender goes by the moon so there are many discrepencies as to when the Sabbath is as this point. Some Christians do have it on Saturday, like Seventh Day Adventists.
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Re: Does It Make Any Sense To Be Black And Christian?

Postby black » December 2nd, 2005, 1:53 am

End Violence NOW wrote:
We have a whole MONTH for Black History Month, what do you mean "white folks don't want that"? You know in America that is the only race-related month they even have?

Even a frickin corporation McDonalds is talking about 'celebrating black history 365" and you are saying that they don't celebrate a "black" day because "white folks don't want that"?????????

Do you even live in America?


do you even know what "black august" means? look that shit up before you say anything. black august represents the the revolution, the cause, the struggle the white folks don't want that.

what america is you living in? black history month isn't the only race related month because in we have hispanic heritage month, asian pacific islander month and cinco de mayo.

who gives a f%%% about mc. d's? they f$$$in racist how they gone come out with a 30 second ad talking bout "De Lawd Done Blessed Me With Free Chicken" with kirk franklin and you supportin that s$$$. that lets me know right there you a "house nigga".
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Re: Does It Make Any Sense To Be Black And Christian?

Postby black » December 2nd, 2005, 2:05 am

TarHeelRED wrote:
johnnyblac wrote: why would jesus (peace be unto him) have to die in order for the holy spirit to come if it already existed in the phophets and servants before him.


First off, Jesus didn't have 2 succomb(die) in order 4 the Holy Spirit 2 come. Jesus died 4 the pardoning of OURsins. Hebrews 9:22 reads, And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood(of the Messiah) is no remission, see also Heb.10:4, and Ephesians 1:7.
Secondly, it was imperative 4 Mr.Jesus 2 ascend 2 the Father so that the HS could descend and dwell internally with us, John 16:7; Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. If u read John 16:8-15, these verses imply the role or purpose of the HS. See also John 14:26, 14:2-3. Romans 8, 2nd Corinthians 3, and Gal 5.


my fault tarheelred, i meant to say why did he have to leave in order for the holy ghost to come if it already existed. we know that pentecost represents jesus's(peace be unto him) descent into heaven.
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Re: Does It Make Any Sense To Be Black And Christian?

Postby black » December 2nd, 2005, 2:12 am

johnnyblac wrote:
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We have a whole MONTH for Black History Month, what do you mean "white folks don't want that"? You know in America that is the only race-related month they even have?

Even a frickin corporation McDonalds is talking about 'celebrating black history 365" and you are saying that they don't celebrate a "black" day because "white folks don't want that"?????????

Do you even live in America?


do you even know what "black august" means? look that shit up before you say anything. black august represents the the revolution, the cause, the struggle the white folks don't want that.

what america is you living in? black history month isn't the only race related month because in we have hispanic heritage month, asian pacific islander month and cinco de mayo.

who gives a f%%% about mc. d's? they f$$$in racist. what if they come out with a 30 second ad talking bout "De Lawd Done Blessed Me With Free Chicken" with kirk franklin and you'd probably be right their with your mc. d's banner supportin that s$$$. that lets me know right there you a "house nigga".
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Postby black » December 2nd, 2005, 2:14 am

^^^^^^^meant to say that....
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Re: Does It Make Any Sense To Be Black And Christian?

Postby black » December 2nd, 2005, 2:31 am

End Violence NOW wrote:
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But Muslims claim that the comforter is Muhammed, but how is Muhammed a "holy ghost"?
But then they say the Bible was "altered" so it's really about who you believe.


everyone knows that the holy spirit isn't physical. it has to fill you, so how do you know that the holy spirit didn't fill muhammed (peace be unto him).

i am neither a muslim or a christian but i believe that the qur'an and the bible both have some alterations to it. for example i can tell the same story to 10 different people and by the end of the week a hundred people would have heard the story told a different way.

so what makes you think that both of these books, which are thousands of years old haven't been altered in some way. they both have the same people in them but they use different names and the stories are even told different.


That is what atheists have been saying, but the scrolls that they were translating from matched up with teh Dead Sea Scrolls that they found which have been untouched since about 300 AD (not sure on exact date)and so that means that the Bible is the most carefully preserved book in the world. If you look at the consistancy between the scrolls since right before they discovered the Dead Sea scrolls and after, you can see accuracy


you right the dead sea scrolls have little errors in them. but why are their books found in the scrolls that are not in the bible today? and since the scrolls were found in 1947 why aren't the missing books included in todays bible?

the scrolls have been proven to be of only the old testament and were written at the same time jesus(peace be unto him) walked the earth but yet the scrolls make know reference to jesus(peace be unto him) or his disciples.

but you are still missing my point how can both the qu'ran and the bible both have the same biblical figures but yet the stories are told different?
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Re: Does It Make Any Sense To Be Black And Christian?

Postby whoknows » December 2nd, 2005, 9:32 am

johnnyblac wrote:
johnnyblac wrote:
End Violence NOW wrote:
We have a whole MONTH for Black History Month, what do you mean "white folks don't want that"? You know in America that is the only race-related month they even have?

Even a frickin corporation McDonalds is talking about 'celebrating black history 365" and you are saying that they don't celebrate a "black" day because "white folks don't want that"?????????

Do you even live in America?


do you even know what "black august" means? look that shit up before you say anything. black august represents the the revolution, the cause, the struggle the white folks don't want that.

what america is you living in? black history month isn't the only race related month because in we have hispanic heritage month, asian pacific islander month and cinco de mayo.

who gives a f%%% about mc. d's? they f$$$in racist. what if they come out with a 30 second ad talking bout "De Lawd Done Blessed Me With Free Chicken" with kirk franklin and you'd probably be right their with your mc. d's banner supportin that s$$$. that lets me know right there you a "house nigga".


wtf is u talkin?
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Postby bayarearep » December 2nd, 2005, 12:08 pm

lol i'm far from christian
but all my peoples are either in the nation, or christian

and they don't argue about it with eachother
everybody does their own tihng
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Postby MiChuhSuh » December 2nd, 2005, 8:01 pm

black history month isn't the only race related month because in we have hispanic heritage month, asian pacific islander month and cinco de mayo


You know that hispanic and Asian-pacific islander months aren't official, no one recognizes it in school unless a hispanic or Asian/islander club is out there making a big point of it

And cinco de mayo is something just Mexicans celebrate, what are you talking about?

And black august is celebrated by those dudes that do the Malcolm X Grassroots" concerts in August, but there aren't enough people recognizing it in teh first place to celebrate it
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Re: Does It Make Any Sense To Be Black And Christian?

Postby MiChuhSuh » December 2nd, 2005, 8:13 pm

johnnyblac wrote:but you are still missing my point how can both the qu'ran and the bible both have the same biblical figures but yet the stories are told different?


You're right, I am missing your point here. What IS you point?

One is telling the truth and one is lying, isn't that common sense?
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