OPEN BORDERS WITH MEXICO?

Unread post by **Lonewolf** » July 24th, 2005, 7:39 am

Mexican Official Seeks Open Border

Mexico's newest border czar wants to begin building additional travel lanes at ports of entry along the U.S.-Mexico border and to increase the number of border crossings into the United States — the first steps, he hopes, toward an open border with no checkpoints.

Arturo Gonzalez Cruz, a Tijuana businessman named in April by President Vicente Fox as the Mexican Foreign Ministry's institutional liaison for northern border affairs, said access changes along the 1,940-mile U.S.-Mexico border were "necessary" to facilitate increased travel and trade between his country and the United States.

"I would like to see a border similar to the one that Europe has right now ... where they have common, very common objectives," he recently told reporters in Tijuana. "They have a common economy. They have policies that transcend their borders where they work with them to get it."

Travel across national borders in the European Union is unregulated, and citizens of EU member nations traverse borders as freely and easily as Americans cross state lines.

Mr. Gonzalez, who has said he wants to promote "better coordination and cooperation" between the United States and Mexico, is expected to outline his proposals during a keynote address at a Mexico City meeting this week of the Border Trade Alliance.

In his new job, according to the Mexican government, Mr. Gonzalez is responsible for ensuring that border issues involving the Mexican Foreign Ministry are "correctly channeled." Within Mexico, he also has been asked to formulate that country's responses to new U.S. border-security measures — particularly in the wake of the September 11 attacks on America.

Mr. Gonzalez, a former president of Mexico's National Federation of Chambers of Commerce, has said that the location of future ports of entry along the U.S.-Mexico border is crucial to that country's trade concerns and that decision-making on their locations, which historically has taken from seven to 10 years, needs to be reduced dramatically.

He replaced Mexican border czar Ernesto Ruffo Appel, former governor of Baja California, who quietly resigned earlier this year after saying government officials in Mexico City "listen to us, but don't understand" the border.

Mr. Ruffo's mandate was to promote economic development along Mexico's northern border, but his commission's functions often overlapped with those of other government agencies.

Mr. Fox has said he favors open borders across North America and has proposed removing all immigration barriers between Mexico, the United States and Canada, allowing the three nations' citizens to live and work in the country of their choosing.

At a rally in California after his surprise 2000 election, Mr. Fox said his government would "use all our persuasion and all our talent to bring together the U.S., Canadian and Mexican governments so that in five or ten years, the border is totally open to the free movement of workers."

In January, shortly after President Bush proposed a temporary guest-worker program for illegal aliens living and working in the United States, Mr. Fox said a North American "bloc" of countries could be the leading and most competitive group of nations in the world "by working together and, through that, be able to keep increasing the quality and the level of life of our citizens."

Mr. Bush's guest-worker proposal, offered as a set of principles and not as specific legislation, would allow illegal aliens in the United States to remain if they have jobs and to apply as guest workers.

Under the proposal, the aliens could stay for an undetermined number of renewable three-year periods, after which they could seek permanent legal status.

But Mr. Bush initially began lobbying Congress to pass a new alien-work program in 2001, although that effort was sidelined after the September 11 attacks and renewed concerns over border security. At the time, Mr. Bush and Mr. Fox had agreed to consider granting permanent residency, or green cards, to as many as 3 million Mexicans living illegally in the United States.

source WASHINGTON TIMES

Unread post by **Kemosave** » July 26th, 2005, 5:29 pm

Political science is not my best subject; however, I currently hold the opinion that there is a way to humanly address the current situation. The best case scenario, in my opinion, would be for Mexico to merge into the United States and join with us as citizens of the United States. I am often critized for this view. And it is possible that I might be wrong so I leave the door open for other views that might humanly address the current situation.

Unread post by **Lonewolf** » July 26th, 2005, 9:05 pm

AMERIXO, lol...

Well since my Boys ain't never gonna stop their back and forth across the line in the sand. Why the hell not? Only we must retain our language & culture. Trust me, you'll learn it and like it. Just go talk to the White Texans in southern Tejas, hell they speak it better than I do, lol... Besides for all intents and purposes, it would be beneficial to both sides. Mexicans spill their blood in America's wars all the time, and we ain't going nowhere. So why limit yourselves with trying to keeping it all to yourselves, using the same old failed policies and measures. Come on brothers, give it up, live and let live. NAFTA is just another form of Imperialism, and all it does is continue the problems for both sides, therefore, wouldn't it be better to go all the way and open up the border? At a time when allies are needed, and security is the name of the game, well then here is your chance to save face and prove to the world that Americans are not the racist s.o.b's that everyone makes them out to be.

Unread post by **WIP** » July 26th, 2005, 10:15 pm

Lone while you at it. why dont you legalize ALL drugs. hell 80% of all the coke, weed and tar is coming from Mexico.

Unread post by **Lonewolf** » July 27th, 2005, 7:14 pm

WIP wrote:Lone while you at it. why dont you legalize ALL drugs. hell 80% of all the coke, weed and tar is coming from Mexico.

All the natural ones, exept for the chemicals and additives, I'm cool with it.

Unread post by **Kemosave** » July 28th, 2005, 2:21 pm

Well the new states would fall under current USA federal policy and law just like any other state is today.

Unread post by **WIP** » July 30th, 2005, 2:14 am

lonewolf wrote:
WIP wrote:Lone while you at it. why dont you legalize ALL drugs. hell 80% of all the coke, weed and tar is coming from Mexico.
All the natural ones, exept for the chemicals and additives, I'm cool with it.

i aint with it. with all the dope mexicans have sold the US. THEY should be the richest land. we should be runnin to Mexico. They have supplied the ammo to destroy every inner city in America.

Unread post by **Lonewolf** » July 30th, 2005, 4:38 pm

What's wrong with the natural herbs WIP?

Who supplied all the ammo?

Run this last one by me one more time sir.

But put some study in it first, before you respond to it, if yould please sir.

Unread post by **WIP** » August 2nd, 2005, 3:03 am

lonewolf wrote:What's wrong with the natural herbs WIP?

Who supplied all the ammo?

Run this last one by me one more time sir.

But put some study in it first, before you respond to it, if yould please sir.

What's wrong with the natural herbs WIP?

hooked on chronic didnt work for me. it contributed in droppin outta school in and outta trouble. being blazed doesnt make you creative. dont believe that bull$hit. anyway since i stopped life been better ever since.

Who supplied all the ammo?

ARELLANO-FELIX and CARRILLO-FUENTES them names ring a bell?

Unread post by **ratt** » August 3rd, 2005, 2:58 pm

i believe that all border lines on earth should be erased. human beings should be free to live where ever they please. however, since we live under a system that promotes nationalism and war, i believe the wise thing to do is to seal every inch of the border. the mexican government needs to be liquidated and replaced by one that will feed and house it's citizens. canada does not have the problem of it's citizens flooding across the border, yet, it too must be sealed for homeland security.