Palestinian Rap- What is your take on this?

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Re: Palestinian Rap- What is your take on this?

Postby Sentenza » March 28th, 2007, 4:17 pm

perongregory wrote:all the evil in this world man.


Talking about the evil in this world...check this video..its a German, turkish, greece and albanian collaboration...a part of it is in english.. the video is crazy though but at least some people are willing to reach hands..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjbQlqA3HO0

and also check this one. Its in French, but check out the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5hf_l6LL40
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Postby GottaLoveLA » April 1st, 2007, 2:31 pm

punamusta wrote:I have heard better palestinian rap, but this one was still alright...

F*ck Israel. So-called democracy, yet without constitution law and with straight up nazi-politics.


Israel is like the United States. The politics suck but the common people is what the country is all about.
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Postby streetsIswatchin » June 4th, 2007, 2:16 am

the palestinians need to cut terrorism out swallow their pride make concessions and properly protest injustices. no one takes those injustices seriously, not even the legitimate ones. Because of their ridiculous ideas of wiping israel out. wise up palestinians.
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Postby frozen fire » June 4th, 2007, 5:06 am

Why should they?? because the enemy is bigger then they are? they have been fighting for decades! (and for decades to come), even though they were being massacred, being sent to prison, these people are being buried alive in a tomb, made up off israels walls. As long as their is an occupying tyrant, as long as their are innocent civilains locked up for no reason, and their lands being siezed.........I dont think anyone will stop fightin.

(and some of you think this can be solved...By rallies and marches...)
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Postby frozen fire » June 4th, 2007, 7:12 am

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Postby streetsIswatchin » June 5th, 2007, 12:11 am

frozen fire, i said what i said so that they can finally put an end to all that you mentioned. You said it yourself they been fighting for decades and decades and where has it got them? no where.
How did South Africa get rid of their oppressors... not thru decades and decades of meaningless bloodshed. Israel will listen to world opinion, they'll listen if the U.S. forces them to make changes when Palestinians are not fighting and committing heinous crimes for their cause. When they are playing by the rules and letting the world know who really oppressing who.
I dont see how the Palestinians dont see this!
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Postby frozen fire » June 5th, 2007, 7:19 am

It's not meaningless to fight for what is rightfully yours. it's a joke to even think that israel will listen to the world opinoin, why should they? they have the backing of the United states, a world super power (whom they have in the palm of their hands, whether you would like to admit it or not).

When they are playing by the rules and letting the world know who really oppressing who.


What rules....the ones set forth by israel and the US? The world is fully aware of the situation in palestine, its just that they dont care!

I dont see how the Palestinians dont see this!



They see things more clearly then any of us...they live under the Occupation each day. they have seen how smaller their lands are becoming and how higher the walls are being built around them, they see how their elected goverment was boycotted and how they are being suffocated, by israel not allowing cash into the country to the rightful owners, doctors and nurses are not getting paid and are driving cabs to put food on the table.

The rules that you are talking about is total submission to the will of israel and the US....that is not an option!

peace.
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Postby streetsIswatchin » June 5th, 2007, 6:16 pm

There land is becoming smaller and walls are going up because of their fighting. The more they fight the more people wont care and the more they'll lose.

Israel ended all of it's wars that it was winning because of world opinion. They could have massacred the remaining invading armies in each of their wars. They could have been killing indiscriminatley using those wars as cover. But they didnt because they do care about world opinion.

Why do you think they never killed Arafat, because world opinion might turn against them. So that proves everything you said wrong. World opinion is on Israel's side thats why no one cares about the palestinians. They dont have any kind of leadership that knows what the f--- they are doing.
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Postby frozen fire » June 7th, 2007, 3:59 am

David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): "If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?" Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox).


Ben Gurion also warned in 1948 : "We must do everything to insure they ( the Palestinians) never do return." Assuring his fellow Zionists that Palestinians will never come back to their homes. "The old will die and the young will forget."

"We enthusiastically chose to become a colonial society, ignoring international treaties, expropriating lands, transferring settlers from Israel to the occupied territories, engaging in theft and finding justification for all these activities. Passionately desiring to keep the occupied territories, we developed two judicial systems: one - progressive, liberal - in Israel; and the other - cruel, injurious - in the occupied territories. In effect, we established an apartheid regime in the occupied territories immediately following their capture. That oppressive regime exists to this day."
(Michael Ben-Yair, 3 March 2002)

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal Al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."(Moshe Dayan, 4 April 1969)

". it's utterly hypocritical for Israelis to wonder aloud why Palestinians don't pursue a non-violent strategy. One obvious reason is that, whenever they have, Israel brutally represses it."
(Norman G. Finkelstein, 11 September 2003)

" We live in a thunderously failed reality. ... A state lacking justice cannot survive. ... Even if the Arabs lower their heads and swallow their shame and anger for ever, it won't work. A structure built on human callousness will inevitably collapse in on itself. Note this moment well: Zionism's superstructure is already collapsing like a cheap Jerusalem wedding hall."
(Avraham Burg, 15 September 2003)


"It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism,colonialization or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands." Yoram Bar Porath, Yediot Aahronot, of 14 July 1972.



What i dont understand is how you expect the palestinians to react *peacefully*, when they are slowly being wiped off the map! .....When the other side itself is doing much worse!
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Postby streetsIswatchin » June 8th, 2007, 12:40 am

I understand all that, Jews came in and muscled their way in. The Arabs tried to muscle them out but that didnt work.... i repeat....that didnt work. When are they going to realize that.

Choose a different battleground. The battleground of diplomacy with world opinion as your ally. Palestinians seem to think all the West love Jews. Theres been more persecution throughout history against Jews then there has ever been against Arabs. So how can a people who were basically kicked out of all over Europe and massacred go somewhere else and become this strong in dominating their region. Because of the way Arabs chose to fight them. I'm sorry if arab egos are bruised but you gotta adapt to the situation. Use your head instead of using the blood of your people.

Like i said in Iraq, if Iraqis wanted the US out they would have peacefully transitioned into a post-Saddam government then by vote and by rule of law from the new government asked Americans to leave. All this blood just to to try and do something you could do better peacefully? And whats worse is that this actually hurts their cause.
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Postby frozen fire » June 11th, 2007, 1:44 pm

I wont be so hard headed and say that the arab leaders have made all the right decisions, and i personally believe there are many situations that they could have handled in a better way and smarter way.
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