A New Party, we need a Name.

[alexalonso]

I am creating a new political party and these are the core values. If you agree join up and lets get a name.

1. Less Taxes and tax cuts
2. Less government spending, cut out wasteful spending and bueruecratic departments
3. Repeal the Patriot Act and create an act that still preserves our privacy and keeps terrorist in check.
4. Pro Choice, but no government spending on abortions and clinics that perform them.
5. Keep Affirmative Action going
6. Allow prayer in school or get rid of the pledge of allegience (that will be my first proposition)
7. Maintain strong military and expand the military budget every year.
8. Universal Health care system will be researched for all US citizens and illegal citizens with 10 years in the US
9. Identify all illegal citizens by allowing the States to provide driver licenses for them, then tax all their income and let them pay into social security.
10. Withdrawal all troops from Iraq and Afghanistan but keep a military base in Bagdhad and in Kabul with 20k troops on each one. Let the Iraqis take over Iraq by 2010.
11. And implement a playoff system for college football.


Who is with this?

[Sentenza]

If i was over there i definitely would be with it. Alone for the reason that i think, that America needs a strong 3rd party to change the political landscape and force the other parties to make some serious moves.
My respect Alonso if you are doing that. Much better than just complaining and not doing shit about things.

[Sentenza]

If i was over there i definitely would be with it. Alone for the reason that i think, that America needs a strong 3rd party to change the political landscape and force the other parties to make some serious moves.
My respect Alonso if you are doing that. Much better than just complaining and not doing shit about things.

[NikexCortez]

I am for this Alonso! We must try our best to stop the corruption in our country before it is too late. The manipulation and lies tearing our country apart needs to be exposed. I hope you succeed!

[justice league]

America is NOT a two party country... the media just makes it that way... take it from a registered Libertarian.... ( dont confuse that with liberalism, cuz it is NOT)


VOTE FOR RON PAUL.... a Libertarian hiding in the republican party....

[alexalonso]

America is NOT a two party country... the media just makes it that way... take it from a registered Libertarian.... ( dont confuse that with liberalism, because it is NOT)


VOTE FOR RON PAUL.... a Libertarian hiding in the republican party....

i wouldnt blame the media for the popularity of the Republicans and Democrats. Those parties split from the Democratic-Republican party from 1801, way before media influence, when things were so done in the open. Most third parties and others, have difficulty in getting support.

[justice league]

America is NOT a two party country... the media just makes it that way... take it from a registered Libertarian.... ( dont confuse that with liberalism, because it is NOT)


VOTE FOR RON PAUL.... a Libertarian hiding in the republican party....

i wouldnt blame the media for the popularity of the Republicans and Democrats. Those parties split from the Democratic-Republican party from 1801, way before media influence, when things were so done in the open. Most third parties and others, have difficulty in getting support.

i cannot tell you how amny times iH ave heard people say they are going to vote the lesser of two evils becauset ehy dont think their dark horse vote will count otherwise.... its really a cryin shame.

[Old Shatterhand]

I tell you what Justice League has a point here. Democrats and Republicans have a firm grasp on the levers of power and tight control of an extensive media network. Furthermore, the "respectable" right and the "liberal" left have brokered somewhat working relations with each other while excluding the more authentic Right.

[$outhPhillypuppet]

1. Less Taxes and tax cuts

less taxes are good but wouldn't that take away money for public schools, public transportation, out of school centers for kids (P.A.L. in philly) and other public things people take for granted.

2. Less government spending, cut out wasteful spending and bueruecratic departments

I'm geussing this is how you were gonna balance out #1

3. Repeal the Patriot Act and create an act that still preserves our privacy and keeps terrorist in check.

agreed

4. Pro Choice, but no government spending on abortions and clinics that perform them.

agreed

5. Keep Affirmative Action going

as long as it works for all minorities.
agreed

6. Allow prayer in school or get rid of the pledge of allegience (that will be my first proposition)

I think we should take relgion out of public schools completely. so yes remove the pledge of allegiance

7. Maintain strong military and expand the military budget every year.

i agree with maintaining a strong military but increasing the budget every year?
wouldn't it be better to increase the budget every year but review it say every fifth year to consider cutting back on projects that aren't working as planned?

8. Universal Health care system will be researched for all US citizens and illegal citizens with 10 years in the US

Universal Health care for US citizens. yes
Illegal citizens with 10 years. no
I don't think we can really know if somebody was in the country illegally for 10 years or not.
but we should try to make the citizenship process a easier.

9. Identify all illegal citizens by allowing the States to provide driver licenses for them, then tax all their income and let them pay into social security.

there is no way the government can tax all of there income.
most illegals work under the table jobs (CASH)
so there is no way of really knowing how much they are making.
I know because growing up my parents worked under the table jobs and were on welfare and other government programs.

10. Withdrawal all troops from Iraq and Afghanistan but keep a military base in Bagdhad and in Kabul with 20k troops on each one. Let the Iraqis take over Iraq by 2010.

there is no way the Iraqi government/military is gonna be strong enough to stand on its own by 2010.
the Iraq issue itself is a lose/lose for us
If we stay we lose more lives in a war we may or may not win.
If we leave before the Iraqi government is strong enough we lose because it will probably be overthrown and replaced by a anti-american government that will be heavily influenced by other anti-american states, namely Iran.

11. And implement a playoff system for college football.

Agreed but if we do we have to add like 3 more games to everyones schedule

Who is with this?

Sure as long as this party doesn't lose sight of what it was created to do like the (R)s & (D)s.

[alexalonso]

1. Less Taxes and tax cuts

less taxes are good but wouldn't that take away money for public schools, public transportation, out of school centers for kids (P.A.L. in philly) and other public things people take for granted.

2. Less government spending, cut out wasteful spending and bueruecratic departments

I'm geussing this is how you were gonna balance out #1

3. Repeal the Patriot Act and create an act that still preserves our privacy and keeps terrorist in check.

agreed

4. Pro Choice, but no government spending on abortions and clinics that perform them.

agreed

5. Keep Affirmative Action going

as long as it works for all minorities.
agreed

6. Allow prayer in school or get rid of the pledge of allegience (that will be my first proposition)

I think we should take relgion out of public schools completely. so yes remove the pledge of allegiance

7. Maintain strong military and expand the military budget every year.

i agree with maintaining a strong military but increasing the budget every year?
wouldn't it be better to increase the budget every year but review it say every fifth year to consider cutting back on projects that aren't working as planned?

[quote"alexalonso"]
I would never reduce spending on the military

8. Universal Health care system will be researched for all US citizens and illegal citizens with 10 years in the US

Universal Health care for US citizens. yes
Illegal citizens with 10 years. no
I don't think we can really know if somebody was in the country illegally for 10 years or not.
but we should try to make the citizenship process a easier.

We can tell if they have kids in our school system. So maybe I would give illegal citizens access to health care if they have children in our school system, they are law abiding, and the pay their taxes.

9. Identify all illegal citizens by allowing the States to provide driver licenses for them, then tax all their income and let them pay into social security.

there is no way the government can tax all of there income.
most illegals work under the table jobs (CASH)
so there is no way of really knowing how much they are making.
I know because growing up my parents worked under the table jobs and were on welfare and other government programs.

Yeah, they do get paid under the table, but now having a driver license they can be tracked or monitored. Many of the illegal citizens are working for US companies so we can go to the companies first.

10. Withdrawal all troops from Iraq and Afghanistan but keep a military base in Bagdhad and in Kabul with 20k troops on each one. Let the Iraqis take over Iraq by 2010.

there is no way the Iraqi government/military is gonna be strong enough to stand on its own by 2010.
the Iraq issue itself is a lose/lose for us
If we stay we lose more lives in a war we may or may not win.
If we leave before the Iraqi government is strong enough we lose because it will probably be overthrown and replaced by a anti-american government that will be heavily influenced by other anti-american states, namely Iran.

I might reconsider the idea of creating military bases there like the US did in Germany & Japan. Perhaps we will need a full withdrawal and let the Iraqis go through their civil war. Probably will last about 10 years before they stablize that place.

11. And implement a playoff system for college football.

Agreed but if we do we have to add like 3 more games to everyones schedule

there will only be these added games to the 8 or 10 teams that make the playoffs, and they will play in December

Who is with this?

Sure as long as this party doesn't lose sight of what it was created to do like the (R)s & (D)s.[/quote]

[spadeloc]

"THE BLOCK" party.....we have to stress the power of voting blocks....when people vote as groups politions pay more attetion.......elderly,vets,women ect....the black voting block has lost alot of power because dems assume that got those votes and reps assume they dont....so neither really have to anything specificly for blacks...if we create a large new voting block that dont automaticly vote democrat then everyone has to listen....its time to take a step forward away from that democrat and republican shit......its time for blacks to reaccert ourselves in the political arena with a new agenda.

[kmcox]

THe NEw BReed Political Party

[IronManCash10]

Alonso your a loser. Your on the gang trivia forum asking questions like this is jeopardy. gangster jeopardy. lol. i bet you feel like a badass running this website. i bet you think your smart too. lol. By the way, I want VIP access.

[SouljahGirl]

Alonso your a loser. Your on the gang trivia forum asking questions like this is jeopardy. gangster jeopardy. lol. i bet you feel like a badass running this website. i bet you think your smart too. lol. By the way, I want VIP access.

Actually, I think that it's just what we need. A new Political Party.. Alonso. if you can convonce Allhood to speak to me again. We 3 should get together and really talk about this..

It is definitley Time .. and as for the Ironman's loser comment.. Apparently he has no idea of how much power we ( gang affiliated- non active ) hold.. It's a terrific idea Lonso

Good Luck Sir

[sinawali]

Name for this: "New Libertarian"
or: "modern cytizens"
Kind of this
But man, it's a very hard job you want to do.
In Germany we have a very lot of parties and the most haven't enough people to get the election-access.
If you do this, you need al lot of money or a lot of work to "put in" and workers.

[SouljahGirl]

Name for this: "New Libertarian"
or: "modern cytizens"
Kind of this
But man, it's a very hard job you want to do.
In Germany we have a very lot of parties and the most haven't enough people to get the election-access.
If you do this, you need al lot of money or a lot of work to "put in" and workers.

it is, and it may take the rest of my life. But you know what.. It will be worth it

[razbojnik]

Name for this: "New Libertarian"
or: "modern cytizens"
Kind of this
But man, it's a very hard job you want to do.
In Germany we have a very lot of parties and the most haven't enough people to get the election-access.
If you do this, you need al lot of money or a lot of work to "put in" and workers.

it is, and it may take the rest of my life. But you know what.. It will be worth it

LOOOOOOOL

Good luck

List of political parties in the Republic of Macedonia

Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization–Democratic Party for Macedonian National Unity (Vnatrešna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija-Demokratska Partija za Makedonsko Nacionalno Edinstvo/Внатрешна Македонска Револуционерна Организација-Партија за Македонско Национално Единство)
Social Democratic Union of Macedonia (Socijaldemokratski Sojuz na Makedonija/ Социјалдемократски Сојуз на Македонија)
Democratic Union for Integration (Bashkimi Demokratik për Integrim/Demokratska Unija za Integracija/Демократска Унија за Интеграција)
Democratic Party of Albanians (Partia Demokratike Shqiptare/Demokratska Partija na Albancite/Демократска Партија на Албанците)
Socialist Party of Macedonia (Socijalisticka Partija na Makedonija/Социјалистичка Партија на Македонија)
Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization–People's Party (Vnatrešna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija-Narodna Partija/Внатрешна Македонска Револуционерна Организација-Народна Партија)
Liberal Democratic Party (Liberalno-Demokratska Partija/Либерално-Демократска Партија)
Liberal Party of Macedonia (Liberalna Partija na Makedonija/Либерална Партија на Македонија)
New Social Democratic Party (Nova socijaldemokratska partija/Нова Социјалдемократска Партија)
Democratic Alternative (Demokratska Alternativa/Демократска Алтернатива)
MAAK-Conservative Party (MAAK-Konzervativna Partija/МААК-Конзервативна Партија)
Democratic League of Bosniaks (Demokratska Liga na Boshnjacite/Демократска Лига на Бошњаците)
Democratic Party of Serbs (Demokratska Partija na Srbite/Демократска Партија на Србите)
Democratic Party of Turks (Demokratska Partija na Turcite/Демократска Партија на Србите)
Democratic Union (Demokratski sojuz/Демократски Сојуз)
National Democratic Party (Nacionala Demokratska Partija/Национална Демократска Партија)
Union of Tito's Left Forces (Sojuz na Titovi Levi Sili/Сојуз на Титови Леви Сили)
United Party of Romas in Macedonia (Obedinita Partija na Romite na Makedonija/Обединета Партија на Ромите во Македонија)
Workers Party (Rabotnicka Partija/Работничка Партија)
Movement for Turkish National Union (Türk Milli Birlik Hareketi/Dvizenje za Tursko Nacionalno Edinstvo/Движенње за Турско Национално Единство)

[SouljahGirl]

Name for this: "New Libertarian"
or: "modern cytizens"
Kind of this
But man, it's a very hard job you want to do.
In Germany we have a very lot of parties and the most haven't enough people to get the election-access.
If you do this, you need al lot of money or a lot of work to "put in" and workers.

it is, and it may take the rest of my life. But you know what.. It will be worth it

LOOOOOOOL

Good luck

List of political parties in the Republic of Macedonia

Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization–Democratic Party for Macedonian National Unity (Vnatrešna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija-Demokratska Partija za Makedonsko Nacionalno Edinstvo/Внатрешна Македонска Револуционерна Организација-Партија за Македонско Национално Единство)
Social Democratic Union of Macedonia (Socijaldemokratski Sojuz na Makedonija/ Социјалдемократски Сојуз на Македонија)
Democratic Union for Integration (Bashkimi Demokratik për Integrim/Demokratska Unija za Integracija/Демократска Унија за Интеграција)
Democratic Party of Albanians (Partia Demokratike Shqiptare/Demokratska Partija na Albancite/Демократска Партија на Албанците)
Socialist Party of Macedonia (Socijalisticka Partija na Makedonija/Социјалистичка Партија на Македонија)
Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization–People's Party (Vnatrešna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija-Narodna Partija/Внатрешна Македонска Револуционерна Организација-Народна Партија)
Liberal Democratic Party (Liberalno-Demokratska Partija/Либерално-Демократска Партија)
Liberal Party of Macedonia (Liberalna Partija na Makedonija/Либерална Партија на Македонија)
New Social Democratic Party (Nova socijaldemokratska partija/Нова Социјалдемократска Партија)
Democratic Alternative (Demokratska Alternativa/Демократска Алтернатива)
MAAK-Conservative Party (MAAK-Konzervativna Partija/МААК-Конзервативна Партија)
Democratic League of Bosniaks (Demokratska Liga na Boshnjacite/Демократска Лига на Бошњаците)
Democratic Party of Serbs (Demokratska Partija na Srbite/Демократска Партија на Србите)
Democratic Party of Turks (Demokratska Partija na Turcite/Демократска Партија на Србите)
Democratic Union (Demokratski sojuz/Демократски Сојуз)
National Democratic Party (Nacionala Demokratska Partija/Национална Демократска Партија)
Union of Tito's Left Forces (Sojuz na Titovi Levi Sili/Сојуз на Титови Леви Сили)
United Party of Romas in Macedonia (Obedinita Partija na Romite na Makedonija/Обединета Партија на Ромите во Македонија)
Workers Party (Rabotnicka Partija/Работничка Партија)
Movement for Turkish National Union (Türk Milli Birlik Hareketi/Dvizenje za Tursko Nacionalno Edinstvo/Движенње за Турско Национално Единство)

Dayum!!

[tharuler314]

One Nation!!!! For the people by the people with real liberty and real justice for all. 1 nation under god my people for all races colors and creeds. One Nation

[SouljahGirl]

One Nation!!!! For the people by the people with real liberty and real justice for all. 1 nation under god my people for all races colors and creeds. One Nation

yeah, and the people on the bottom can rise to the top.

[dinky]

The UNITY party