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Postby Young Deuce » February 3rd, 2008, 8:16 am

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/CGBnZ

I was there...in was packed like jockey tights...lol...when i was waiting outside some Ron Paul supporters was there...man they act worst than jehovahs witness...lol....the 2nd picture on the link that lil kid is my lil cousin,,,i think that was when i was holding him up but it was 3 dif. people that was holding him up.....
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Postby A Ghost » February 3rd, 2008, 11:31 am

Bros before hoes, Obama 08!!
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Postby MiChuhSuh » February 4th, 2008, 7:09 pm

A Ghost wrote:Bros before hoes, Obama 08!!


Ignorant basis for voting...
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Postby A Ghost » February 4th, 2008, 10:13 pm

MiChuhSuh wrote:
A Ghost wrote:Bros before hoes, Obama 08!!


Ignorant basis for voting...


I was playin :wink:
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Postby MiChuhSuh » February 4th, 2008, 10:31 pm

lol ya I know
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Postby clipse » February 4th, 2008, 11:54 pm

A Ghost wrote:Bros before hoes, Obama 08!!



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Postby A Ghost » February 5th, 2008, 11:07 am

clipse wrote:
A Ghost wrote:Bros before hoes, Obama 08!!



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LMAO!!
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Postby alexalonso » February 5th, 2008, 1:33 pm

if Obama wins would you really consider him a black president? He is more like a mixed cat, right down the middle. Look at his family fotos. How many consider Vanessa Williams, the first black Miss America? Are we still be brainwashed by the colonial view of blackness defined by 1/16 blood black makes you all black?

I want to see a Samuel Jackson looking man run, or Shaq O'Neal looking guy. Obama is the Tiger Woods version of politics.
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Postby MiChuhSuh » February 5th, 2008, 3:31 pm

alexalonso wrote:if Obama wins would you really consider him a black president? He is more like a mixed cat, right down the middle. Look at his family fotos. How many consider Vanessa Williams, the first black Miss America? Are we still be brainwashed by the colonial view of blackness defined by 1/16 blood black makes you all black?

I want to see a Samuel Jackson looking man run, or Shaq O'Neal looking guy. Obama is the Tiger Woods version of politics.


Another ignorant basis for voting and another media agenda.

I don't f*cking care about his "race" (another social invention) or what he looks like or what his parents look or or their parents... etc etc etc.

Basically as viable candidates, it's him or Hillary. I voted for Obama because I'm indepedant and CA Republicans don't let undeclareds vote in their primary but more importantly because I feel his position on foreign policy was more constructive.

F*ck all the other bullsh*t.
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Postby clipse » February 5th, 2008, 7:32 pm

alexalonso wrote:if Obama wins would you really consider him a black president? He is more like a mixed cat, right down the middle. Look at his family fotos. How many consider Vanessa Williams, the first black Miss America? Are we still be brainwashed by the colonial view of blackness defined by 1/16 blood black makes you all black?

I want to see a Samuel Jackson looking man run, or Shaq O'Neal looking guy. Obama is the Tiger Woods version of politics.



I hope you're joking. And what do you think those other ones you mentioned would find if thy traced their roots??
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Postby clipse » February 5th, 2008, 7:32 pm

alexalonso wrote:if Obama wins would you really consider him a black president? He is more like a mixed cat, right down the middle. Look at his family fotos. How many consider Vanessa Williams, the first black Miss America? Are we still be brainwashed by the colonial view of blackness defined by 1/16 blood black makes you all black?

I want to see a Samuel Jackson looking man run, or Shaq O'Neal looking guy. Obama is the Tiger Woods version of politics.
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Postby A Ghost » February 5th, 2008, 8:56 pm

I voted!!! YEAH HA!
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Postby MiChuhSuh » February 5th, 2008, 10:14 pm

I just voted for the first time!!! woop woop!!!!!!!!!!

Obama - It was him or Clinton... obvious choice

91: No - the people who started it took it back because they passed an equivalent
92: Blank - Nothing convinced me either way
93: No - the loophole seems like a scam
94: No - We can get a better deal than this on the next prop vote
95: No - We can get a better deal than this on the next prop vote
96: No - We can get a better deal than this on the next prop vote
97: No - We can get a better deal than this on the next prop vote
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Postby alexalonso » February 6th, 2008, 1:51 am

MiChuhSuh wrote:
alexalonso wrote:if Obama wins would you really consider him a black president? He is more like a mixed cat, right down the middle. Look at his family fotos. How many consider Vanessa Williams, the first black Miss America? Are we still be brainwashed by the colonial view of blackness defined by 1/16 blood black makes you all black?

I want to see a Samuel Jackson looking man run, or Shaq O'Neal looking guy. Obama is the Tiger Woods version of politics.


Another ignorant basis for voting and another media agenda.

I don't f*cking care about his "race" (another social invention) or what he looks like or what his parents look or or their parents... etc etc etc.

Basically as viable candidates, it's him or Hillary. I voted for Obama because I'm indepedant and CA Republicans don't let undeclareds vote in their primary but more importantly because I feel his position on foreign policy was more constructive.

F*ck all the other bullsh*t.


I wasn't talking about voting, I was talking about how "black" is defined in the US. You might not care about his race, you are in the minority, and most people are voting based on "favorites" whether race, religion, or geography. For example, Mitt Romney will win Utah because he is a Morman, Hillary should win New York and Arkansas because that's where she is from. Obama should win the same states that Jesse Jackson won in 84 & 88 because they like Black folks running and his home state of Illinois. You are ignorant if you somehow believe he has the best foreign policy plan. What is his "constructive" foreign policy approach?

But my main point is that until a Black person who has 2 parents are Black, his 4 grandparents are Black, etc runs for president, then we cant honestly call that person a Black candidate.
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Postby alexalonso » February 6th, 2008, 1:52 am

clipse wrote:
alexalonso wrote:if Obama wins would you really consider him a black president? He is more like a mixed cat, right down the middle. Look at his family fotos. How many consider Vanessa Williams, the first black Miss America? Are we still be brainwashed by the colonial view of blackness defined by 1/16 blood black makes you all black?

I want to see a Samuel Jackson looking man run, or Shaq O'Neal looking guy. Obama is the Tiger Woods version of politics.



I hope you're joking. And what do you think those other ones you mentioned would find if thy traced their roots??


the same thing that OJ Simpson's kids would find.
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Postby A Ghost » February 6th, 2008, 1:56 am

-insert news music-

Is Barack Obama really OJ Simpson??


Find out at eleven!


-insert news music-
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Postby Old Shatterhand » February 10th, 2008, 1:48 am

The guy promises a lot but provides almost no information on how he intends to bring all this sweeping change and fulfill all these lofty promises. I never trust people like that no matter who they are. If they can't tell me what they are going to do and how they are going to do it, they don't even deserve a listen imo.
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Postby justice league » February 11th, 2008, 10:30 am

Old Shatterhand wrote:The guy promises a lot but provides almost no information on how he intends to bring all this sweeping change and fulfill all these lofty promises. I never trust people like that no matter who they are. If they can't tell me what they are going to do and how they are going to do it, they don't even deserve a listen imo.



THANK YOU!!!!! and he isnt the only one....

they all pretty much suck.
Boo Boo the Foo wrote:How could you call an all white gang racist, but all latino gangs and all black gangs are not ?

makes no sense.
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Postby StoneGreaser » February 11th, 2008, 11:12 am

What qualifications does Osama have? I mean, the guy is a political lightweight here in Illiinois, doesn't hardly know his way around. I can dig it if ya str8 vote for the cat cause he's got Black blood in him, but is there any other justification???
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Postby justice league » February 11th, 2008, 3:28 pm

StoneGreaser wrote:What qualifications does Osama have? I mean, the guy is a political lightweight here in Illiinois, doesn't hardly know his way around. I can dig it if ya str8 vote for the cat cause he's got Black blood in him, but is there any other justification???


Hillary and Obama both have a personal agenda that makes for poor leadership

If there were three black men and three women and maybe a few other options it would be a little like a presidential race... but as it stands its a stupid contest of whats more popular... women or blacks.
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Postby Young Deuce » February 11th, 2008, 4:31 pm

i wuzz done with hilary after she said lyndon b johnson did more for civil rights than martin luther king....
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Postby Young Deuce » February 11th, 2008, 4:50 pm

Old Shatterhand wrote:The guy promises a lot but provides almost no information on how he intends to bring all this sweeping change and fulfill all these lofty promises. I never trust people like that no matter who they are. If they can't tell me what they are going to do and how they are going to do it, they don't even deserve a listen imo.



http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/
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Postby A Ghost » February 12th, 2008, 12:50 am

Better believe Im reading this right now:

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Postby punamusta » February 12th, 2008, 8:53 am

Have you looked up the corporations that support Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and John McCain? For many parts those corporations are same. So no matter who you choose (or more correctly who will be chosen for you like in the previous elections), the final outcome is the same. All these candidates mentioned are same. They are all rich and privileged, all have long ago become estranged from the reality of a normal citizen, and they share the same basic views.

They might look different, and they might even speak slightly differently before the elections, but when any of these candidates gets elected he/she will have to answer to a lot of his/her financial supporters. Those big corporations have bought their candidate and you can be sure that they want him/her to take care of their needs. And besides, all candidates have same kind of advisors behind them. All neo-conservatives, all pro-war.

So basically you get to choose from the tie colour your future president has. Either he has a blue tie or a red tie. Or in Hillary's case no tie at all. That's it.

All you get by your vote is an illusion of democracy for the next 4 years.

So don't vote at all. That's my advice. You can't lose by that way anymore than by voting. But you can win more as a very low voting percentage would force your elite to re-think the whole consept of your so-called democracy.
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Postby Sentenza » February 12th, 2008, 11:51 am

punamusta wrote:Have you looked up the corporations that support Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and John McCain? For many parts those corporations are same. So no matter who you choose (or more correctly who will be chosen for you like in the previous elections), the final outcome is the same. All these candidates mentioned are same. They are all rich and privileged, all have long ago become estranged from the reality of a normal citizen, and they share the same basic views.

They might look different, and they might even speak slightly differently before the elections, but when any of these candidates gets elected he/she will have to answer to a lot of his/her financial supporters. Those big corporations have bought their candidate and you can be sure that they want him/her to take care of their needs. And besides, all candidates have same kind of advisors behind them. All neo-conservatives, all pro-war.

So basically you get to choose from the tie colour your future president has. Either he has a blue tie or a red tie. Or in Hillary's case no tie at all. That's it.

All you get by your vote is an illusion of democracy for the next 4 years.

So don't vote at all. That's my advice. You can't lose by that way anymore than by voting. But you can win more as a very low voting percentage would force your elite to re-think the whole consept of your so-called democracy.


I wonder what would happen if they would make private financing of election campaigns illegal. Because basically its corruption. Private companies pay the candidates to establish laws which are in their favour. Its simply just corruption.

I have to say though Puna, that choices are always very limited, in every democracy, but that still is better than having no choice.
My country is the perfect example for that.
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Postby Sentenza » February 12th, 2008, 11:55 am

Sentenza wrote:My country is the perfect example for that.


Cause we have had it all, monarchy, fascism, communism and Democracy. And what we have now is by far the best system.
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Postby clipse » February 12th, 2008, 1:24 pm

punamusta wrote: So no matter who you choose (or more correctly who will be chosen for you like in the previous elections), the final outcome is the same. All these candidates mentioned are same.



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Postby punamusta » February 12th, 2008, 2:26 pm

Sentenza wrote:
I wonder what would happen if they would make private financing of election campaigns illegal. Because basically its corruption. Private companies pay the candidates to establish laws which are in their favour. Its simply just corruption.


True. It's corruption and bribery, yet all legal.

I have to say though Puna, that choices are always very limited, in every democracy, but that still is better than having no choice.
My country is the perfect example for that.


Democracy is a good political system when it works correctly. The basic idea in democracy is that the government is for the people, not other way around. But how many can truly say that their country lives up to that definition? I know I can't. Today's democracy lacks transparency on all terms, and normal citizens everywhere feel that they can't affect on decision making. I don't want to settle to the thought that "it always could be worse". I like to think that "it must be better than this". The real power has narrowed down to an ever smaller group of people. And that is a total opposite of what democracy should be.

I hope you read Henry David Thoreau's great essay called "Civil Disobedience" which is written in 1849, but still points out many flaws in today's democracy:

http://thoreau.eserver.org/civil.html (I think with a little googleing you can find that one in german, too...)
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Postby Old Shatterhand » February 15th, 2008, 2:15 pm

Just finished his boring 100% liberal pretending to be a moderate book. It's pretty much what I thought it would be. He should be a youth counselor but not President of the USA. He has a lot of mixed up incomplete ideas he wraps in platitudes. The man isn't qualified. Reminds me of how a pick up artist works: they bypass the logic centers of the brain and go straight for the limbic system.

Barack Hussain Obama offers no real solutions to government problems in this book and his dream is one of some Marxist derivative. Translation: Huge government and higher taxes. Block by block, neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city, state by state means transforming the USA in a typical neo-liberal authoritarian manner towards a failed model.

Once you wade through all the psychobabble, that's what the guy is all about imo. The New Left built the coffin and the Neo-Conservatives hammered in most of the nails but he'll finish the job for sure. Don't drink the kool-aid kids. Just say no or we sink in a sea debt and a lack of innovation.
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Postby EmperorPenguin » February 15th, 2008, 3:39 pm

Old Shatterhand wrote:Just finished his boring 100% liberal pretending to be a moderate book. It's pretty much what I thought it would be. He should be a youth counselor but not President of the USA. He has a lot of mixed up incomplete ideas he wraps in platitudes. The man isn't qualified. Reminds me of how a pick up artist works: they bypass the logic centers of the brain and go straight for the limbic system.

Barack Hussain Obama offers no real solutions to government problems in this book and his dream is one of some Marxist derivative. Translation: Huge government and higher taxes. Block by block, neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city, state by state means transforming the USA in a typical neo-liberal authoritarian manner towards a failed model.

Once you wade through all the psychobabble, that's what the guy is all about imo. The New Left built the coffin and the Neo-Conservatives hammered in most of the nails but he'll finish the job for sure. Don't drink the kool-aid kids. Just say no or we sink in a sea debt and a lack of innovation.


Flavor-Aid. Drinking Kool-Aid is perfectly fine, it's the grape flavored Flavor-Aid you'll want to steer clear of.
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Postby Old Shatterhand » February 16th, 2008, 2:35 pm

Agreed. There's no way the USA will win this election no matter which of the front running candidates are elected (Obama, Clinton, McCain, or Huckabee). Google 'Branding and the American Voter' for a good article on what you are communicating here.

punamusta wrote:Have you looked up the corporations that support Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and John McCain? For many parts those corporations are same. So no matter who you choose (or more correctly who will be chosen for you like in the previous elections), the final outcome is the same. All these candidates mentioned are same. They are all rich and privileged, all have long ago become estranged from the reality of a normal citizen, and they share the same basic views.

They might look different, and they might even speak slightly differently before the elections, but when any of these candidates gets elected he/she will have to answer to a lot of his/her financial supporters. Those big corporations have bought their candidate and you can be sure that they want him/her to take care of their needs. And besides, all candidates have same kind of advisors behind them. All neo-conservatives, all pro-war.

So basically you get to choose from the tie colour your future president has. Either he has a blue tie or a red tie. Or in Hillary's case no tie at all. That's it.

All you get by your vote is an illusion of democracy for the next 4 years.

So don't vote at all. That's my advice. You can't lose by that way anymore than by voting. But you can win more as a very low voting percentage would force your elite to re-think the whole consept of your so-called democracy.
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Postby Young Deuce » March 5th, 2008, 3:54 pm

Old Shatterhand wrote:Just finished his boring 100% liberal pretending to be a moderate book. It's pretty much what I thought it would be. He should be a youth counselor but not President of the USA. He has a lot of mixed up incomplete ideas he wraps in platitudes. The man isn't qualified. Reminds me of how a pick up artist works: they bypass the logic centers of the brain and go straight for the limbic system.

Barack Hussain Obama offers no real solutions to government problems in this book and his dream is one of some Marxist derivative. Translation: Huge government and higher taxes. Block by block, neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city, state by state means transforming the USA in a typical neo-liberal authoritarian manner towards a failed model.

Once you wade through all the psychobabble, that's what the guy is all about imo. The New Left built the coffin and the Neo-Conservatives hammered in most of the nails but he'll finish the job for sure. Don't drink the kool-aid kids. Just say no or we sink in a sea debt and a lack of innovation.


you sound like that ann coulter chick my people talk about....
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