King Tut controversy.

[Cold Bear]

My point is I KNOW Egyptians that are light-skinned. But their kids, MIRACULOUSLY, are dark and have African hair etc. How the f*ck did that happen? LOL

[se11]

damn you people were really going at it.

i have to agree with Gonzo and those who say that ancient egyptians and not africans.

gonzo, chill out. ancient tribes of america and others posts a whole bunch of shit that isnt proven or anything. he sees one article so it must be true. just like acmewhitebread, they post the shit only they want to see and dont bother looking at the other half of the argument.

[Cold Bear]

Ancient Egyptians ARE technically Africans since Egypt is IN Africa. Are Italians not Europeans cause they have Black blood? Or Slavs because they have Mongolian blood? Egyptians are Africans but they are mixed. Taking away their Blackness is denying a major part of their identity.

[Dr. Gonzo]

First of I'm an idiot? First of what, the month?

You're the one not providing proof. Stupid Retard? LOL. Egypt is IN AFRICA, you slow ass. Light or not, Egyptians always had 'black blood'. just like Sicilians also have black blood. Don't be mad because the argument you made about Henna is weak as fu-- fool.

Also, why would Olmecs build statues that are NOT in their own image?

Egypt is in Africa argument is the most idiotic thing, I ever heard it's really pathetic.

I don't know if you know this but in South Africa their is white people. Do you wanna know why their is white people in South Africa?

Because they migrated from the North. You know Europe.

What the hell makes you think peoople did not migrate to North Africa 3000 years ago?

Was their some kind of border that kept all the non blacks out?

Because of that's the case how do you explain the persians and arabs coming to Egypt?

Also you're sicilians having black blood proves my argument even more thanks by the way. The reason sicilians have black blood is because they were conquered by the Moors who happened to be black just like the Nubians when they conquered Egypt.

And what the hell are you talking about with "Also, why would Olmecs build statues that are NOT in their own image?"

The Olmecs look exactly like Indians in Mexico and Guatemala look like now you stupid idiot.

[Cold Bear]

I thought you would try to bring South African whites in the mix. That's a whole different issue of colonization. YEAH, guy, I KNOW, that there are whites in Africa, that CAME from Europe. My point is, Egyptians have always been African, whether people came in from elsewhere and settled or not. Because Slavs look a little different from Norwegians because of Mongol influence, does that make them all of a sudden NOT WHITE? No. In the same way, because Egyptians had influence from other gene pools doesn't make them NOT BLACK.

"Stupid idiot, retard"... Gonzo you're playing yourself.

[blakman]

"The Egyptians were an African people ". Whites (yes this includes arabs as well) need to come to turms with it. African/black people are not going for it any longer. We have been on earth for 30000 thousand years and some scientist think that blacks have been on earth even longer then that.

The arrogance and the racism of these people have them thinking that Africans were waiting around doing nothing until arabs and europeans came along!! White people are new to the planet earth if you take in consideration how long blacks have been on the planet. They've only been on earth for 6000 years.

If you ask me, whites have been stealing black people accomplishment for the longest time man, and this King tut fiasco is just more proof of this.White people are despratly trying to hold on to this lie for as long as possible, because white people are slowly becoming obsolite!! Why do I say that, it's because white people aren't having babies any more and the population is declining rapidly!!!

Why you think 80% of all abortion clinics are in the black community and they are pushing all this condom nonsence on black people. To keep us from having babies and reproducing ourselves. Don't fall for that AIDS b.s, but's that for another topic!!!!

The truth is, we gave the world civilization,arts and culture and some people just can't accept that fact. But African/black people don't even care anymore what white people say and do anymore because we know that white people will do what white people do!! But don't expect black people to go along with it or to sit back and watch you try and steal our history and go around and tell the world what you did in ancient kemet(egypt) which you had no part in building.

[Sentenza]

Demographics

Main article: Demographics of Egypt

Egypt is the most populous Arab country, at about 74,000,000 people. Nearly all the population is concentrated along the River Nile, notably Alexandria and Cairo, and along the Nile Delta and near the Suez Canal. Approximately 90% of the population adheres to Islam and the remainder to Christianity (primarily the Coptic denomination).

The Egyptians are a fairly homogenous people. Mediterranean (such as Greek and Italian) and Arab influences appear in the North, and there are indigenous black populations in the South. Many theories has been proposed on the origins of the Egyptians, however none are conclusive, and the most widely accepted theory is that Egyptian society was the result of a mix of East African and Asiatic people who moved to the Nile Valley after the ice age. The bulk of Modern Egyptian society are heterogeneous but maintain cultural ties to the ancient Egyptian society which has always been regarded as rural and most populous compared to the neighbouring demographics. The Egyptian people spoke only languages from the Afro-Asiatic family (previously known as Hamito-semitic)

[Anonymous20]

"The Egyptians were an African people ". Whites (yes this includes arabs as well) need to come to turms with it. African/black people are not going for it any longer. We have been on earth for 30000 thousand years and some scientist think that blacks have been on earth even longer then that.

The arrogance and the racism of these people have them thinking that Africans were waiting around doing nothing until arabs and europeans came along!! White people are new to the planet earth if you take in consideration how long blacks have been on the planet. They've only been on earth for 6000 years.

If you ask me, whites have been stealing black people accomplishment for the longest time man, and this King tut fiasco is just more proof of this.White people are despratly trying to hold on to this lie for as long as possible, because white people are slowly becoming obsolite!! Why do I say that, it's because white people aren't having babies any more and the population is declining rapidly!!!

Why you think 80% of all abortion clinics are in the black community and they are pushing all this condom nonsence on black people. To keep us from having babies and reproducing ourselves. Don't fall for that AIDA b.s, but's that for another topic!!!!

The truth is, we gave the world civilization,arts and culture and some people just can't accept that fact. But African/black people don't even care anymore what white people say and do anymore because we know that white people will do what white people do!! But don't expect black people to go along with it or to sit back and watch you try and steal our history and go around and tell the world what you did in ancient kemet(egypt) which you had no part in building.

What a load of racist BS just adding oil to the fire. You're not even Egyptian. This history and heritage belongs to Egyptians first and foremost, the descendants of today and to those who have their roots in that land. Where do YOU come from, where are your roots at? If you're a black american, there are big chances that you come from West Africa and NOT even close to East Africa, not the same culture at all, forget the link to skin color, I'm talking about culture. Don't come here trying to mix BS using this and that of King Tutankhamon to make your point. Make your own thread for the subjects you speak on.

[Dr. Gonzo]

I thought you would try to bring South African whites in the mix. That's a whole different issue of colonization. YEAH, guy, I KNOW, that there are whites in Africa, that CAME from Europe. My point is, Egyptians have always been African, whether people came in from elsewhere and settled or not. Because Slavs look a little different from Norwegians because of Mongol influence, does that make them all of a sudden NOT WHITE? No. In the same way, because Egyptians had influence from other gene pools doesn't make them NOT BLACK.

How is it you bring up the sicilians having black blood because the moors traveled from Africa all the way to Sicilily to colonize them but yet when non blacks traveled to North Africa is a totally different issue.

And why do you keep on bringing up whites you retard?

Who said that Egyptians were white?

And just because certain people are African does not mean they are Black you worthless piece of shit.

I don't know if you know this but civilizations migrated out of Africa you know the whites and asians and others. Just because you were born in Africa does not mean you are Black.

[Anonymous20]

Which is why we'll never find a name to define their skin color or 'race' as a whole. There's always going to be exceptions which prove the meaning wrong so to hell with that categorization. They understood what it was really about and it was about nationality and religion, where and what you live with whom, not judging from skin color. It makes no sense whatsoever to see things this way, no sense at all. But keep on going if y'all want to, I bet you this thread is going to go on forever and ever because it's not possible applying such simple color boundaries to a whole people.

[Cold Bear]

TO IMMATURE ASS "RETARD" "WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT" talking Dr. Gonzo.
You're not hearing me. Take a deep breath and fucking listen to me.

I'm bringing up Sicilians because they are still considered European, even though they have moorish blood. I'm bringing up whites (Slavs to be exact), because they are still considered whites and european, even though they have Mongol blood. Egyptians are still African even if they have Arab or whatever else blood. Their ROOT is still IN AFRICA and they still can be considered Black. When you try to discredit them of being Black it appears racist.

And Who migrated out of Africa? Whites and Asians and others? They weren't white and Asian when they left. They were African when they left. Their phenotypes adapted as they moved to other climates, and they picked up other traits.

[Dr. Gonzo]

TO IMMATURE ASS "RETARD" "WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT" talking Dr. Gonzo.
You're not hearing me. Take a deep breath and #%@&#%@ listen to me.

I'm bringing up Sicilians because they are still considered European, even though they have moorish blood. I'm bringing up whites (Slavs to be exact), because they are still considered whites and european, even though they have Mongol blood. Egyptians are still African even if they have Arab or whatever else blood. Their ROOT is still IN AFRICA and they still can be considered Black. When you try to discredit them of being Black it appears racist.

And Who migrated out of Africa? Whites and Asians and others? They weren't white and Asian when they left. They were African when they left. Their phenotypes adapted as they moved to other climates, and they picked up other traits.

You are such a retard.

What part of if someone is African it does not mean their neccessaraly black don't you understand?

Just because you are African does not mean you're black.

And when did, I say Egyptians were not black at some point?

And if it looks like, I'm descrediting blacks guess what? I'm also discrediting whites.

Also you stupid idiot when we migrated out of Africa we still looked like a Homo erectus which is basically a walking upright monkey not a black man you moron.

[Cold Bear]

And when did, I say Egyptians were not black at some point?

I though that's what we were disputing.

Also you stupid idiot when we migrated out of Africa we still looked like a Homo erectus which is basically a walking upright monkey not a black man you moron.

Homo Erectus didn't look like a monkey at all 'you stupid idiot moron dummy', it was already evolved pretty far past the state of a monkey.

[Sentenza]

"The Egyptians were an African people ". Whites (yes this includes arabs as well) need to come to turms with it. African/black people are not going for it any longer. We have been on earth for 30000 thousand years and some scientist think that blacks have been on earth even longer then that.

The arrogance and the racism of these people have them thinking that Africans were waiting around doing nothing until arabs and europeans came along!! White people are new to the planet earth if you take in consideration how long blacks have been on the planet. They've only been on earth for 6000 years.

If you ask me, whites have been stealing black people accomplishment for the longest time man, and this King tut fiasco is just more proof of this.White people are despratly trying to hold on to this lie for as long as possible, because white people are slowly becoming obsolite!! Why do I say that, it's because white people aren't having babies any more and the population is declining rapidly!!!

Why you think 80% of all abortion clinics are in the black community and they are pushing all this condom nonsence on black people. To keep us from having babies and reproducing ourselves. Don't fall for that AIDS b.s, but's that for another topic!!!!

The truth is, we gave the world civilization,arts and culture and some people just can't accept that fact. But African/black people don't even care anymore what white people say and do anymore because we know that white people will do what white people do!! But don't expect black people to go along with it or to sit back and watch you try and steal our history and go around and tell the world what you did in ancient kemet(egypt) which you had no part in building.

sorry but this is real bs partially what you are writing.
its so funny that african americans come along talking about that "us blacks" BS.
i cant hear it anymore. Black countries, kingdoms and cultures have been going at each others throats in all time of history especially before they white man even knew about africa. Africa was a fuckin slaughterhouse.

They(african countries) are pretty much the same like european countries. Apart from skin colour they had and still have not much in common.
and what blacks in north and south america concerns, they mostly came from west africa, like 95%. So you have as much links to egypt like a russian to an australian. Slaves from east africa went to Arabia by the 100-thousands.
nobody tries to steal black african history (well at least not me) and egyptians, in my opinion, were pretty much black.
But african americans have no links to egyptians so do not defend something thats even not yours. and miss me with that all blacks are brothers shit. Tell taht those Hutus and Tutsis, that are chopping each others heads off for hundreds of years. Or the Ibos and the Fulani in nigeria who are shooting each other like dogs if they get to catch some1 of the other side. And those conflicts existed BEFORE the white man. I could make you a list with hundreds of those conflicts.
it has nothing to do with skin colour.
in my opinion all wars are civil wars, cause all men are brothers.

P.s. and aids does exist.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Coldbear perhaps you should go back and read more carefully some of my statements were, I said that the Nubians conquered Egypt.

"Homo Erectus didn't look like a monkey at all 'you stupid idiot moron dummy', it was already evolved pretty far past the state of a monkey".

Once again you provide zero proof to back you're statements like that retarded Olmec statement you made earlier.

But, I learned to take you're statements for what they are absolute garbage with no basis what's so ever.

[Michelle]

I have decided to re-open this. I have deleted and edited where snarky insults have been thrown about, so this thread doesn't escalate into an argument and I have split the thread. The aids epidemic in Africa has absolutely nothing to do with this.

Please stay on topic, and be civil.

[jae]

in all REALITY, nobody here can truely argue any point other than what OTHER people wrote as OPINIONS in books,websites, news, etc... so how can anyone here, including myself, TRUELY give a credible argument about something we TRUELY know NOTHING about other than what people have written "opinions" about time and time again? and i say "opinions" because unless you were there, thats all it can be.

TODAY we see pyramids in egypt, we say they had pharoahs (judging by the art paintings found on the walls and the old tomb stones), we call that area africa, TODAY africa looks black, so thats my opinion of what king tut was. a black man. simply speaking..... all the art work that i've seen, supposibly from their walls has black faces on it. kings, queens, slaves, and servants. if a gangsta of today drew a picture on his wall in their hood, i'm surely going to imagine it would be a picture of what people in the hood looked like.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Great!

When people talk about America and describe it as the way it is now we should forget about the Native Americans.

According to you all that matters it what America looks like now not the past.

[shadoworder]

in all REALITY, nobody here can truely argue any point other than what OTHER people wrote as OPINIONS in books,websites, news, etc... so how can anyone here, including myself, TRUELY give a credible argument about something we TRUELY know NOTHING about other than what people have written "opinions" about time and time again? and i say "opinions" because unless you were there, thats all it can be.

TODAY we see pyramids in egypt, we say they had pharoahs (judging by the art paintings found on the walls and the old tomb stones), we call that area africa, TODAY africa looks black, so thats my opinion of what king tut was. a black man. simply speaking..... all the art work that i've seen, supposibly from their walls has black faces on it. kings, queens, slaves, and servants. if a gangsta of today drew a picture on his wall in their hood, i'm surely going to imagine it would be a picture of what people in the hood looked like.

most of that art which depicts egyptians as black,are from the 25th dynasty,when egypt was spiraling downward fast,not from the time that egypt was at its peak.how do you explain egyptian art that depicts various pharoahs and others with red or blonde hair,or with blue eyes??or well preserved egyptain mummies that have red or blonde hair ??

[blakman]

in all REALITY, nobody here can truely argue any point other than what OTHER people wrote as OPINIONS in books,websites, news, etc... so how can anyone here, including myself, TRUELY give a credible argument about something we TRUELY know NOTHING about other than what people have written "opinions" about time and time again? and i say "opinions" because unless you were there, thats all it can be.

TODAY we see pyramids in egypt, we say they had pharoahs (judging by the art paintings found on the walls and the old tomb stones), we call that area africa, TODAY africa looks black, so thats my opinion of what king tut was. a black man. simply speaking..... all the art work that i've seen, supposibly from their walls has black faces on it. kings, queens, slaves, and servants. if a gangsta of today drew a picture on his wall in their hood, i'm surely going to imagine it would be a picture of what people in the hood looked like.

most of that art which depicts egyptians as black,are from the 25th dynasty,when egypt was spiraling downward fast,not from the time that egypt was at its peak.how do you explain egyptian art that depicts various pharoahs and others with red or blonde hair,or with blue eyes??or well preserved egyptain mummies that have red or blonde hair ??

You can't be serious white boy!!! Oh no let me guest,you are serious with that dumb ass statment! White people mostly white arabs invaded Kemet several time and breeded with the africans after that!

Does different colors on the walls have to do with religious practices then anything else.The funny part about all of this is, that you even had romans and greeks in their books tell you that they got their ideas and kessons from Kemetans and the discribe the egyptian as dark skin people just like the ethiopeans!! These where white people saying this! Now we have people today saying "no, they where wrong in their discription and we are right in our belief in what the egyptians looked like" . I mean get the fu ck out of here with that B.S man!The egyptian were black african!!

[Dr. Gonzo]

Egyptian King, Ramses II had red straight hair, I guess he was black LOL.

[img]http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/8227/rammummy014bc.jpg[/img]

[se11]

Egyptian King, Ramses II had red straight hair, I guess he was black LOL.

[img]http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/8227/rammummy014bc.jpg[/img]

lol that pic freaks me out.

[shadoworder]

in all REALITY, nobody here can truely argue any point other than what OTHER people wrote as OPINIONS in books,websites, news, etc... so how can anyone here, including myself, TRUELY give a credible argument about something we TRUELY know NOTHING about other than what people have written "opinions" about time and time again? and i say "opinions" because unless you were there, thats all it can be.

TODAY we see pyramids in egypt, we say they had pharoahs (judging by the art paintings found on the walls and the old tomb stones), we call that area africa, TODAY africa looks black, so thats my opinion of what king tut was. a black man. simply speaking..... all the art work that i've seen, supposibly from their walls has black faces on it. kings, queens, slaves, and servants. if a gangsta of today drew a picture on his wall in their hood, i'm surely going to imagine it would be a picture of what people in the hood looked like.

most of that art which depicts egyptians as black,are from the 25th dynasty,when egypt was spiraling downward fast,not from the time that egypt was at its peak.how do you explain egyptian art that depicts various pharoahs and others with red or blonde hair,or with blue eyes??or well preserved egyptain mummies that have red or blonde hair ??

You can't be serious white boy!!! Oh no let me guest,you are serious with that dumb ass statment! White people mostly white arabs invaded Kemet several time and breeded with the africans after that!

Does different colors on the walls have to do with religious practices then anything else.The funny part about all of this is, that you even had romans and greeks in their books tell you that they got their ideas and kessons from Kemetans and the discribe the egyptian as dark skin people just like the ethiopeans!! These where white people saying this! Now we have people today saying "no, they where wrong in their discription and we are right in our belief in what the egyptians looked like" . I mean get the fu ck out of here with that B.S man!The egyptian were black african!!

oh im serious blackboy,as someone else pointed out,the roman descriptions of egyptians being black date back to when egypt was in its decline,and when in fact it was ruled by blacks(25th dynasty)no one describes the egyptians who built the pyramids and the sphinx and who established that great civilization as being black.and its not just the artwork,as i said their are mummies that show total european charecteristics,here are a couple:
[img]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y169/ultravio13/thuya.jpg[/img]
Thuya, great grandmother of Tutankhamen.Blonde hair still preserved.
[img]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y169/ultravio13/39.jpg[/img]
Pharaoh Seti 1.Seti was the son of the great Ramses I, and became pharaoh in 1320 BC. Look at his well preserved facial features.he was obviously White.
[img]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y169/ultravio13/vizier.jpg[/img]
The White racial features of the vizier Hemiunu, who was the architect for the Great Pyramids of Giza.

[Aristotle]

Egyptians were a tan colored people migrating from different lands. Ironically so, he owned slaves of the same exact ethnicity. Back then it wasn't about propaganda; It was about getting your work done, and having someone else do it for you. These days racism is centered down to black slaves, black people, white slave owners, and white people. However this barely knicks the skin of racism's reality.

I'll edit with a better post when I'm not high and tired. Lol, lates.

[Fatestar]

King Tut was obviously a Caucasian. Just look at the physical characteristics, look at the skull shape, looks caucasian to me. Anyways there werent any powerful black kingdoms in northern Africa during the days of King Tut, these Caucasian Africans might have had dark skin, but they definately werent negroid.

[tysuave]

youll know what ive read this whole thred and no one made any valid points most of youll views or prety much based on what you want to belive,then your so called facts or of what youve heard from else where if it was a proven fact then there couldent be an arugment right.point is on history were all brainwashed and counfoused but one thing is fosho and that is, africa had the first signs of men kind now thats been proven so far now to king tut whether he was black or middle eastren I think prety much thats the debate, well if he is middle eastren dosent that still make him black or black blood aint that why you whites call arabs sand niggers humm but my onpion on king tut I think he has black blood like most people expect real whites but he 's not black like nigga black or real african black now I think that just about sums everything up.

[jae]

youll know what ive read this whole thred and no one made any valid points most of youll views or prety much based on what you want to belive,then your so called facts or of what youve heard from else where if it was a proven fact then there couldent be an arugment right.point is on history were all brainwashed and counfoused but one thing is fosho and that is, africa had the first signs of men kind now thats been proven so far now to king tut whether he was black or middle eastren I think prety much thats the debate, well if he is middle eastren dosent that still make him black or black blood aint that why you whites call arabs sand niggers humm but my onpion on king tut I think he has black blood like most people expect real whites but he 's not black like nigga black or real african black now I think that just about sums everything up.

yeah, thats like what i'm saying. nobody really knows, which is why we, as people, will CONSTANTLY debate on it. everything is guesstimated from the past. so what i was saying is why continue to study something like that? let's study now, and study the solutions to our problems, and stop dwelling on the problems itself. people seek to constantly dig dig dig up the past, but in your findings, what will that do for you/us, as a people today?

we all know the past, we all know whats right and whats wrong so regardless of who did what, said what, lets not point fingers and argue about the past, lets look at ourselves right now and say "maybe i was wrong, maybe i was right. what can WE do together,as people, to satisfy the situation?" and work from that. dont get me wrong, i love my people, but it's not them so much anymore, it's US. We all brainwashed, so it's REeducation time.... let's build!

[Anonymous20]

youll know what ive read this whole thred and no one made any valid points most of youll views or prety much based on what you want to belive,then your so called facts or of what youve heard from else where if it was a proven fact then there couldent be an arugment right.point is on history were all brainwashed and counfoused but one thing is fosho and that is, africa had the first signs of men kind now thats been proven so far now to king tut whether he was black or middle eastren I think prety much thats the debate, well if he is middle eastren dosent that still make him black or black blood aint that why you whites call arabs sand niggers humm but my onpion on king tut I think he has black blood like most people expect real whites but he 's not black like nigga black or real african black now I think that just about sums everything up.

it really hard to decipher what race the pharoahs were. Especially a kingdom that lasted a couple thousand years. There were probably a mix of different ethnicities.

Just imagine when people look at the population of the United States today 2 thousand years from now. If somehow all the writings and data are destroyed, and you used tv, magaine, music videos, and entertainment to measure what the population looked like, you might think that the US was 50% Black, 50 % white and nothing else although blacks are only 12% black today, noone would believe that 2,000 years from now. Most people dont realize that today, so how can we know what race, negroid, cacausoid, etc ruled Egypt. They might have looked Semitic middle eastern. Didnt Egypt enslave the Jews? and if Moses, a Jew, grew up in an Egyptian environment and noone knew he was Jew, the probably looked similar. Can you image us saying that people in Texas look a certain way and Floridians are know for a ethnic characteristic? funny stuff.

[blakman]

youll know what ive read this whole thred and no one made any valid points most of youll views or prety much based on what you want to belive,then your so called facts or of what youve heard from else where if it was a proven fact then there couldent be an arugment right.point is on history were all brainwashed and counfoused but one thing is fosho and that is, africa had the first signs of men kind now thats been proven so far now to king tut whether he was black or middle eastren I think prety much thats the debate, well if he is middle eastren dosent that still make him black or black blood aint that why you whites call arabs sand niggers humm but my onpion on king tut I think he has black blood like most people expect real whites but he 's not black like nigga black or real african black now I think that just about sums everything up.

it really hard to decipher what race the pharoahs were. Especially a kingdom that lasted a couple thousand years. There were probably a mix of different ethnicities.

Just imagine when people look at the population of the United States today 2 thousand years from now. If somehow all the writings and data are destroyed, and you used tv, magaine, music videos, and entertainment to measure what the population looked like, you might think that the US was 50% Black, 50 % white and nothing else although blacks are only 12% black today, noone would believe that 2,000 years from now. Most people dont realize that today, so how can we know what race, negroid, cacausoid, etc ruled Egypt. They might have looked Semitic middle eastern. Didnt Egypt enslave the Jews? and if Moses, a Jew, grew up in an Egyptian environment and noone knew he was Jew, the probably looked similar. Can you image us saying that people in Texas look a certain way and Floridians are know for a ethnic characteristic? funny stuff.

I know the answer!! They where black african people. The egyptians called themselves kmt. It basicaly means "the land of the black" But white egyptologist didn't want to hear that and started saying that they were actualy talking about the fertile soil. You know the black land During the later years, when the arabs and persians and the turks start invading egypt is really when you started seeing the mingling of the races. But before all that, the black africans had alot of time to develope the first human civilization on earth!! But that is the truth nobody is ready to hear!!! It's shows us where we still are in the tear 2005, mentaly.

Here is a link about african/black history.
http://www.freemaninstitute.com/wmj-dsl.ram

[TheReal]

This is an interesting thread on the subject. Check it out the information and evidence these folks present...

And make sure to check out all of the evidence, the both sides are presenting, which will take you all the way to the end.

http://theblackwall.blackvoices.com/n/p ... lkoftheday

[Anonymous20]

youll know what ive read this whole thred and no one made any valid points most of youll views or prety much based on what you want to belive,then your so called facts or of what youve heard from else where if it was a proven fact then there couldent be an arugment right.point is on history were all brainwashed and counfoused but one thing is fosho and that is, africa had the first signs of men kind now thats been proven so far now to king tut whether he was black or middle eastren I think prety much thats the debate, well if he is middle eastren dosent that still make him black or black blood aint that why you whites call arabs sand niggers humm but my onpion on king tut I think he has black blood like most people expect real whites but he 's not black like nigga black or real african black now I think that just about sums everything up.

it really hard to decipher what race the pharoahs were. Especially a kingdom that lasted a couple thousand years. There were probably a mix of different ethnicities.

Just imagine when people look at the population of the United States today 2 thousand years from now. If somehow all the writings and data are destroyed, and you used tv, magaine, music videos, and entertainment to measure what the population looked like, you might think that the US was 50% Black, 50 % white and nothing else although blacks are only 12% black today, noone would believe that 2,000 years from now. Most people dont realize that today, so how can we know what race, negroid, cacausoid, etc ruled Egypt. They might have looked Semitic middle eastern. Didnt Egypt enslave the Jews? and if Moses, a Jew, grew up in an Egyptian environment and noone knew he was Jew, the probably looked similar. Can you image us saying that people in Texas look a certain way and Floridians are know for a ethnic characteristic? funny stuff.

I know the answer!! They where black african people. The egyptians called themselves kmt. It basicaly means "the land of the black" But white egyptologist didn't want to hear that and started saying that they were actualy talking about the fertile soil. You know the black land During the later years, when the arabs and persians and the turks start invading egypt is really when you started seeing the mingling of the races. But before all that, the black africans had alot of time to develope the first human civilization on earth!! But that is the truth nobody is ready to hear!!! It's shows us where we still are in the tear 2005, mentaly.

Here is a link about african/black history.
http://www.freemaninstitute.com/wmj-dsl.ram

The first Egyptians may have been black, but just saying that does not explain alot of other inconsistencies. A Very complex issue to label one land, one race that ruled for over 2,000. Some depictions of them look very negroid while other look mixed.

But I can tell you this with certainty, Egypt was NOT the first civilization, they were the first empire, or super power. As I mentioned on another post, the first civilization goes back to Mesopatamia, where Iraq is today. One way to know where the first people where is to trace language. What are the oldest languages in the world? Consensus tells us the semitic languages are among the oldest, and the semitic languanges are traces to the Mesopotamia area where Iraq is to Isreal.

Here is an interesting quote I read on a language website:

"Semitic languages are the only branch of Afro-Asiatic based outside of Africa. The Semitic, Berber and Egyptian branches are predominantly (though by no means exclusively) spoken by Caucasoid people, while Cushitic, Chadic, and Omotic are spoken by black Africans."

[blakman]

[quote="tysuave"]youll know what ive read this whole thred and no one made any valid points most of youll views or prety much based on what you want to belive,then your so called facts or of what youve heard from else where if it was a proven fact then there couldent be an arugment right.point is on history were all brainwashed and counfoused but one thing is fosho and that is, africa had the first signs of men kind now thats been proven so far now to king tut whether he was black or middle eastren I think prety much thats the debate, well if he is middle eastren dosent that still make him black or black blood aint that why you whites call arabs sand niggers humm but my onpion on king tut I think he has black blood like most people expect real whites but he 's not black like nigga black or real african black now I think that just about sums everything up.

it really hard to decipher what race the pharoahs were. Especially a kingdom that lasted a couple thousand years. There were probably a mix of different ethnicities.

Just imagine when people look at the population of the United States today 2 thousand years from now. If somehow all the writings and data are destroyed, and you used tv, magaine, music videos, and entertainment to measure what the population looked like, you might think that the US was 50% Black, 50 % white and nothing else although blacks are only 12% black today, noone would believe that 2,000 years from now. Most people dont realize that today, so how can we know what race, negroid, cacausoid, etc ruled Egypt. They might have looked Semitic middle eastern. Didnt Egypt enslave the Jews? and if Moses, a Jew, grew up in an Egyptian environment and noone knew he was Jew, the probably looked similar. Can you image us saying that people in Texas look a certain way and Floridians are know for a ethnic characteristic? funny stuff.

I know the answer!! They where black african people. The egyptians called themselves kmt. It basicaly means "the land of the black" But white egyptologist didn't want to hear that and started saying that they were actualy talking about the fertile soil. You know the black land During the later years, when the arabs and persians and the turks start invading egypt is really when you started seeing the mingling of the races. But before all that, the black africans had alot of time to develope the first human civilization on earth!! But that is the truth nobody is ready to hear!!! It's shows us where we still are in the tear 2005, mentaly.

Here is a link about african/black history.
http://www.freemaninstitute.com/wmj-dsl.ram

The first Egyptians may have been black, but just saying that does not explain alot of other inconsistencies. A Very complex issue to label one land, one race that ruled for over 2,000. Some depictions of them look very negroid while other look mixed.

But I can tell you this with certainty, Egypt was NOT the first civilization, they were the first empire, or super power. As I mentioned on another post, the first civilization goes back to Mesopatamia, where Iraq is today. One way to know where the first people where is to trace language. What are the oldest languages in the world? Consensus tells us the semitic languages are among the oldest, and the semitic languanges are traces to the Mesopotamia area where Iraq is to Isreal.

Here is an interesting quote I read on a language website:

"Semitic languages are the only branch of Afro-Asiatic based outside of Africa. The Semitic, Berber and Egyptian branches are predominantly (though by no means exclusively) spoken by Caucasoid people, while Cushitic, Chadic, and Omotic are spoken by black Africans."[/quote]


But did you know that the original Iraqis or what used to be called Mesopatamia were black people.

What people need to know is, how words are used to confuse the masses of the people. Take for example the U.S government! They say that the new largest minority in the counrty are now latinos. Since when as Latino become a race? I would really like to know when latinos became a race. For most people it doesn't even occur to them that to be latino, you have to come from a spanish speaking country and to partake in the culture of that spanish speaking country. That's all it takes!! Again, I say that use of words is offen used to confuse people.

I mean, you have black,white,asian,mulatto and mestizo latinos!! You have Cubans, Peruvians.Perto ricans,Dominicans, Colombians....(ect) who all have similar but distinct cultures.So how are you going to put them all in one group and say this is a new race!! Again, fancy word play, to try and confuse people!!

Now, the middle east!! Can somebody please tell me where it's in the middle of? Again,I will tell you that it is a play on words to confuse people! If there is a middle east,there also needs to be a middle west, a noth and a middle south! But, we all know that no such thing exist!! What people don't realize is, that the middle east used to be attached to the African continent, but over time, it got detached from the continent. What we now call the middle east, is really North east Africa.

But like everthing else they have done to africa like,lie cheat, steal,distort,hide and manipulate, they feel like they have to seperate egypt from africa and african history because, that is the only way to uphold the idea of white supremacy and to continue to perpetuate the idea of black inferiority!!