Mexico Issues Stamps of Black Character

These concepts are socially constructed and have been given much weight. What are your thoughts?

Postby Anonymous20 » July 2nd, 2005, 2:56 pm

What do the black MEXICANS have to say about this? Not the black AMERICANS.
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Postby Dr. Gonzo » July 2nd, 2005, 3:16 pm

Vargas Dulché created Memín Pinguín after visiting Cuba. Memín Pinguín was based on the littlle black kids she saw in Cuba. She loved Cuba and it's black people. She was Influenced by the explosive popularity of the Cuban radio soap operas she then began writing similar scripts for Mexican comic books.

Memin is basically a little black cuban kid. She did not create the character to demean black little kids. And, I find it ridicoulous that you black americans find it offensive but yet the blacks in mexico have no problem with the character.

If anyone should be pissed it's the black little cuban kids Memín was based on.
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Postby se11 » July 2nd, 2005, 3:26 pm

blackmanofhonor wrote:Im offended by the cartoon.And for the mexicans that say ''we arent offended by speedy gonzalez so this shouldnt offend you'',#1 blacks did not create Speedy Gonzalez #2 if you arent offended by something,in no way whatsoever does that mean that someone else shouldnt be offended.Its like someone punching you in your face,and then punching someone else,and you tell the other person that they shouldnt fight back because you didnt.Just because youre a pussy doesnt mean I have to be one.

besides speedy gonzales does not compare to this comic,it doesnt have the ugly history behind it.Speedy is just a cartoon mouse that speaks with a spanish accent,nothing disrespectful about it.If a cartoon mouse spoke like a black man and wore hip hop type of clothing that would not offend me.This is an entirely diffrent situation.


ppl like you are offended by the word black being used so you dont count. its people like you why there are racist and ppl like you why we will never overcome racist. something offends you so you have a fucking press confrence. everybody gets shitted on in this world, everyone gets made fun of, and everybody gets offended, get over it.
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Postby blackmanofhonor » July 2nd, 2005, 9:40 pm

se11 wrote:
blackmanofhonor wrote:Im offended by the cartoon.And for the mexicans that say ''we arent offended by speedy gonzalez so this shouldnt offend you'',#1 blacks did not create Speedy Gonzalez #2 if you arent offended by something,in no way whatsoever does that mean that someone else shouldnt be offended.Its like someone punching you in your face,and then punching someone else,and you tell the other person that they shouldnt fight back because you didnt.Just because youre a pussy doesnt mean I have to be one.

besides speedy gonzales does not compare to this comic,it doesnt have the ugly history behind it.Speedy is just a cartoon mouse that speaks with a spanish accent,nothing disrespectful about it.If a cartoon mouse spoke like a black man and wore hip hop type of clothing that would not offend me.This is an entirely diffrent situation.


ppl like you are offended by the word black being used so you dont count. its people like you why there are racist and ppl like you why we will never overcome racist. something offends you so you have a #%@&#%@ press confrence. everybody gets shitted on in this world, everyone gets made fun of, and everybody gets offended, get over it.


shut the fuck up you little bitch.You said once that I was ''making you racist'' and that because of what I have typed on here,you were starting to view black people diffrent.So youre obviously a cowardly little pussy with a WEAK mind and NO BACKBONE.If something offends me youre damn right I will speak upon it because Im a MAN and Im not afraid to ruffle any feathers if I feel its nessecery.


''its people like you why there are racists'' are you saying that people like me make others hateful towards blacks?so in other words,we blacks should just ignore all the HATEFUL,PREJUDICE,RACIST BS we face everyday because us responding might make even more people hate us?lol what a stupid piece of shit you are,you should be shot.
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Postby se11 » July 2nd, 2005, 10:13 pm

shut your fucking mouth. maybe some mexicans dont like blacks because people like you open there mouth whenever the word black is said. it pisses me off when people want to make everything a racial issue when its not. i guarantee you that you will in your lifetime move more ppl from behing normal ppl to racists against blacks, if you talk this way in real life.

your a dumb s o b that wants everything handed to you. if you would get over making everything a racial issue maybe you would get somwhere in you fucking life. all you give a damn about is your fuckingself, you dont give two shits about anybody else. your a fucking cry baby unless everything goes your way and you cant get over challenges in life. yeah theres racism, yeah theres prejudism, yeah some white ppl probably call you n***er behind your back, and yeah black ppl probably face the most out of all the minorities. but guess what? im sure theres black ppl out there calling me a honkey and calling mexicans beaners behind our back, im sure theres black ppl that would hate a fucking pizano from brooklyn moving into their neighborhood, and im sure theres black ppl that just dont like me because im white. but i dont sit here and cry going "awwwww the black guy said he doesnt like me". i get the fuck up and move on and carry myself like a real man and not a little bitch that wants to cry.
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Postby blackmanofhonor » July 2nd, 2005, 10:26 pm

shut the fuck up faggot,

''maybe some mexicans dont like blacks because people like you open there mouth whenever the word black is said''

spoken like a true idiot.
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Postby blackmanofhonor » July 2nd, 2005, 10:30 pm

so we blacks should accept racism and not even comment on it?is that what you think se11?
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Postby se11 » July 2nd, 2005, 10:56 pm

comment is different than bitch and whine about everything.
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Postby blackmanofhonor » July 2nd, 2005, 11:19 pm

I notice you faggots call anything dealing with race bitching and whining.
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Postby se11 » July 2nd, 2005, 11:46 pm

thats what you say everytime someone says you are whining because the truth is you have to complain about everything negative that happens and you dont want to see that. if you "commented" on some issues that would be one thing. but everytime a topic about racism comes up, you start whining about how everybody hates blacks or how everything is so racist. we know there are racist people, stop crying like a little girl and do something like a man for once in your life and get over it. like my grandparents say, life isnt fair get use to it. theres is nothing you can say or do to change these peoples minds. crying about it just proves you cant go on. this isnt just about the stamp its about people bringing up the race card everytime something they dont like happens.
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Postby never die inside » July 3rd, 2005, 2:47 am

when you live somewhere like wisconsin where Chai Vang got called Chink and shot at by a bunch of white hick hunters, everything is gonna seem racist to you, cus guess what, its one fuccin racist place to live in wisconsin if you are black, asian, native american, middle eastern.

anyways... this is the mexican president vicente fox tryna stir shiet up between dark mexicans and blacks to divert attention from that obrador dood winning the next presidential election... its so fuccin obvious... i feel sorry for the mexicans that fall for this.
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Postby blackmanofhonor » July 3rd, 2005, 9:41 am

se11 wrote:thats what you say everytime someone says you are whining because the truth is you have to complain about everything negative that happens and you dont want to see that. if you "commented" on some issues that would be one thing. but everytime a topic about racism comes up, you start whining about how everybody hates blacks or how everything is so racist. we know there are racist people, stop crying like a little girl and do something like a man for once in your life and get over it. like my grandparents say, life isnt fair get use to it. theres is nothing you can say or do to change these peoples minds. crying about it just proves you cant go on. this isnt just about the stamp its about people bringing up the race card everytime something they dont like happens.


the only thing I can do on here is comment you stupid bitch,this is the internet.what do you mean by ''get over it'',do you mean just ignore it and never mention it or discuss?No,Im not going to do that.Im sure your ancestors in the 50s were ''tired'' of hearing my ancestors ''whine'' as you honkies put it about civil rights.
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Postby blackmanofhonor » July 3rd, 2005, 9:43 am

Ancient Tribes of America wrote:when you live somewhere like wisconsin where Chai Vang got called Chink and shot at by a bunch of white hick hunters, everything is gonna seem racist to you, cus guess what, its one fuccin racist place to live in wisconsin if you are black, asian, native american, middle eastern.




the entire US is racist wisconsin is not special in that aspect.My city is damn near 50% non white so its not like I live in some hick town.
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Postby se11 » July 3rd, 2005, 1:12 pm

blackmanofhonor wrote:
se11 wrote:thats what you say everytime someone says you are whining because the truth is you have to complain about everything negative that happens and you dont want to see that. if you "commented" on some issues that would be one thing. but everytime a topic about racism comes up, you start whining about how everybody hates blacks or how everything is so racist. we know there are racist people, stop crying like a little girl and do something like a man for once in your life and get over it. like my grandparents say, life isnt fair get use to it. theres is nothing you can say or do to change these peoples minds. crying about it just proves you cant go on. this isnt just about the stamp its about people bringing up the race card everytime something they dont like happens.


the only thing I can do on here is comment you stupid bitch,this is the internet.what do you mean by ''get over it'',do you mean just ignore it and never mention it or discuss?No,Im not going to do that.Im sure your ancestors in the 50s were ''tired'' of hearing my ancestors ''whine'' as you honkies put it about civil rights.

thers nothing wrong with feeling somethings racist or unfair. but some ppl bring up the race card in many cases when it doesn't need to be and things get blow way out of proportion.
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Postby Michelle » July 3rd, 2005, 2:42 pm

se11 wrote:thers nothing wrong with feeling somethings racist or unfair. but some ppl bring up the race card in many cases when it doesn't need to be and things get blow way out of proportion.


In a minority of cases it does get blown out of proportion, however there is a LOT of racism out there, and you cannot pretend it does not exist and sweep it under the carpet.
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Postby 100 » July 6th, 2005, 9:35 am

THE REASON WHY BLACK-MEXICANS AHVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS IS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THAT MANY NUMBERS WHOS GONNA LISTEN TO THEM?

AND WHY WOULD MEXICO PRODUCE SOMETHING THAT WAS IS BASED ON BLACKS IN CUBA?

AND SINCE WHEN DID MEXICO GLORIFY ITS BLACKS?

AND WHY DO THE MEMIN CHARACTER LOOK LIKE AN ANIMAL BUT THE MEZTIZO OR WHITE TRASH SH!TS LOOK LIKE HUMAN BEINGS?

COMPARING SPEEDY GONAZALES TO MEMIN IS NOT EVEN DEBATABLE SPEEDY IS A CHARACTER THAT ALWAYS WINS AGAINST HIS RIVALS TRY COMPARING THAT TO MEMIN.

AFRICAN AMERICANS DID NOT CREATE SPEEDY LIKE BMOH SAID!
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Postby Anonymous20 » July 8th, 2005, 10:16 pm

can someone post the stamp images within their message? thanks
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Postby SkoobyDoo » July 9th, 2005, 6:31 am

alonso wrote:can someone post the stamp images within their message? thanks


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Postby Anonymous20 » July 10th, 2005, 4:42 pm

I dont want to click on another site to see the images, can someone insert the image in their message like below? Very easy, click "img" once, then insert the path to the image, then click "img" once again.

[img]http://www.streetgangs.com/graphics/streetgangs202.jpg[/img]
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Postby Dr. Gonzo » July 10th, 2005, 5:17 pm

[img]http://www.lambiek.net/artists/burgos_sv/burgos_memin1.jpg[/img]
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Postby 100 » July 11th, 2005, 12:54 pm

Dr. Gonzo wrote:[img]http://www.lambiek.net/artists/burgos_sv/burgos_memin1.jpg[/img]

^^^look like fukking monkeys, sickening, thats how they view blacks/africans of any kind.

[img]http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/ap/20050629/capt.mo10106291746.mexico_blacks_stamp_mo101.jpg?x=380&y=130&sig=0K8D3S8tg5YGnBdfIBqbaQ--[/img]

[img]http://www.blackfriends.net/memin_pinguin.jpg[/img]

^^look at them spainards, meztizos they look normal like humans compare them to memin.


[img]http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/WORLD/americas/06/29/mexico.stamp.ap/story.stamp3.ap.jpg[/img]
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Postby Silencioso » July 11th, 2005, 1:30 pm

I agree with 100. If all the characters in that comic were drawn exageratedly that would be one thing. But the white/Latin characters look toyally normal and Memin looks like a monkey. There's no way that's not racist.
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Postby se11 » July 11th, 2005, 1:43 pm

Dr. Gonzo wrote:[img]http://www.lambiek.net/artists/burgos_sv/burgos_memin1.jpg[/img]


can anyone that speaks spanish tell me what they are saying herE?
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Postby blackmanofhonor » July 11th, 2005, 2:31 pm

thats some bogus shit.Whats with all this hatred towards blacks coming from mexicans?
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Postby TheReal » July 12th, 2005, 7:00 am

To Lonewolf and "Dr." Gonzo:

Who cares what this stamp is supposed to represent, and what black folks in Mexico think concerning this stamp, insofar as not having a problem with it. It's like me saying that native americans don't mind living on reservations, or better yet, there were black slaves who didn't mind living in slavery back in the day.

Either case, it wouldn't have justified the conditions of these people, universally.

Need I explain more?
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Postby MICK » July 12th, 2005, 7:34 am

Dr. Gonzo wrote:It's just a stamp who cares? You don't see me getting angry just because the cleveland indians mascot looks like me.


hahahaha
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Postby Dr. Gonzo » July 12th, 2005, 7:53 am

TheReal wrote:To Lonewolf and "Dr." Gonzo:

Who cares what this stamp is supposed to represent, and what black folks in Mexico think concerning this stamp, insofar as not having a problem with it. It's like me saying that native americans don't mind living on reservations, or better yet, there were black slaves who didn't mind living in slavery back in the day.

Either case, it wouldn't have justified the conditions of these people, universally.

Need I explain more?


What the hell are you trying to imply?
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Postby DiaBo » July 12th, 2005, 8:03 am

tysuave wrote:thats good now maybe this will get all black people mad it's seems like thats what mexicans want.
I mad as fuck just looking at that shit fuck mexicans always dancing.
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Postby GTS » July 12th, 2005, 8:32 am

Diabo you ride the short bus?
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Postby DiaBo » July 12th, 2005, 9:23 am

Hell fuck naw.
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Postby TheReal » July 12th, 2005, 1:45 pm

Dr. Gonzo wrote:
TheReal wrote:To Lonewolf and "Dr." Gonzo:

Who cares what this stamp is supposed to represent, and what black folks in Mexico think concerning this stamp, insofar as not having a problem with it. It's like me saying that native americans don't mind living on reservations, or better yet, there were black slaves who didn't mind living in slavery back in the day.

Either case, it wouldn't have justified the conditions of these people, universally.

Need I explain more?


What the hell are you trying to imply?


*I'm not implying, whether I'm stating, and if you're not able to catch what I'm saying, then you're just that slow...
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Postby Dr. Gonzo » July 12th, 2005, 1:48 pm

TheReal wrote:
Dr. Gonzo wrote:
TheReal wrote:To Lonewolf and "Dr." Gonzo:

Who cares what this stamp is supposed to represent, and what black folks in Mexico think concerning this stamp, insofar as not having a problem with it. It's like me saying that native americans don't mind living on reservations, or better yet, there were black slaves who didn't mind living in slavery back in the day.

Either case, it wouldn't have justified the conditions of these people, universally.

Need I explain more?


What the hell are you trying to imply?


*I'm not implying, whether I'm stating, and if you're not able to catch what I'm saying, then you're just that slow...


If, I'm slow, Then you are completely ignorant.
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