Mexico Issues Stamps of Black Character

These concepts are socially constructed and have been given much weight. What are your thoughts?

Postby 100 » July 13th, 2005, 1:26 pm

MICK wrote:
Dr. Gonzo wrote:It's just a stamp who cares? You don't see me getting angry just because the cleveland indians mascot looks like me.


hahahaha



THAT AINT THE SAME EITHER AND I NEVER SEEN A REAL NATIVE AMERICAN THAT LOOK LIKE THE CLEVELAND INDIANS MASCOT.

REDSKINS- THATS NOT REALLY DERAGATORY ESP IF YOU EMBRACED THAT WORD.

AS FAR AS IT BEING A STAMP THAT SHOULD NOT MATTER THE QUESTION IS WHY NOW, WHY BRING IT OUT NOW AND NOT THEN?
IF NEGROS ARE APART OF YOU HISTORY WHY AREN'T THEY ON YOUR CENSUS WHY ARE THEY NOT RECOGNIZED?

IF ITS BASED ON A AFRO CUBAN WHY IN THE HELL IS MEXICO USING HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO REPEAT MYSELF?

MAKING SOMONE LOOK LIKE A MONKEY WHICH MANY PEOPLE SEE BLACK AS.

IS NOT THE SAME IN COMPARING TO ANYTHING REMOTELY HUMAN LOOKING OR EVEN THE RAT SPEEDY GONZALES WHICH ALWAYS BEAT HIS CHARACTERS

AND THE DAMN TACO BELL DOG WHICH I HEARD THERE WERE COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT FROM SOME PEOPLE BUT AFTER A MINUTE U SEEN HISPANICS WITH CHIUHAHUAS(SPELLING) ON THEIR SHOULDER AND IN LATIN AWARDS AND stuff

YOU NEVER SEE ANY BLACK MUTHA**** WITH A MEMIN PENGIN BOOKBAG OR SHIRT OR ANY AMERICAN CHARACTER THAT DEPICTS AMERICAN BLACKS LOOKING A CERTAIN WAY!


WHILE WE AT IT LETS PUT JAPAN ON BLAST FOR GLORIFYING THESE IMAGES IN THEIR COUNTRY IN THEIR OWN WAY


THE CLEVELAND INDIANS VS THE CHICAGO PORCH (MONKEYS)
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Postby Dr. Gonzo » July 13th, 2005, 1:33 pm

100 wrote:
MICK wrote:
Dr. Gonzo wrote:It's just a stamp who cares? You don't see me getting angry just because the cleveland indians mascot looks like me.


hahahaha



THAT AINT THE SAME EITHER AND I NEVER SEEN A REAL NATIVE AMERICAN THAT LOOK LIKE THE CLEVELAND INDIANS MASCOT.

REDSKINS- THATS NOT REALLY DERAGATORY ESP IF YOU EMBRACED THAT WORD.


What the hell are you talking about?

The indians mascot is racist.
http://www.aimovement.org/ncrsm/

And as far as "redskins" that word is extremely racist.

I wonder how asian people would feel if a sports team named it's self the "yellowskins" yeah, I'm sure they would be ok with that name.

Also you are totally contradicting yourself you just said "I NEVER SEEN A REAL NATIVE AMERICAN THAT LOOK LIKE THE CLEVELAND INDIANS MASCOT." well guess what Memin doesn't look a any black person, I have ever seen either.
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Postby DiaBo » July 13th, 2005, 1:35 pm

Ya'll fuck c's and m's take this shit for a joke.
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Postby GTS » July 13th, 2005, 1:37 pm

DiaBo wrote:Ya'll fu-- c's and m's take this shit for a joke.


Your the only thing taken as a joke you fuccin blade.
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Postby DiaBo » July 13th, 2005, 1:39 pm

GTS wrote:
DiaBo wrote:Ya'll fu-- c's and m's take this shit for a joke.


Your the only thing taken as a joke you fuccin blade.
Homie im just mad.
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Postby GTS » July 13th, 2005, 1:45 pm

At what? Are you even black, I seriously doubt it askin all types of questions on native american gangs and oriental lazy boy gangs.
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Postby DiaBo » July 13th, 2005, 1:47 pm

Of cousre im black.
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Postby se11 » July 13th, 2005, 2:54 pm

GTS wrote:At what? Are you even black, I seriously doubt it askin all types of questions on native american gangs and oriental lazy boy gangs.


dont evne bother hes a clown sometimes.
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Postby 100 » July 13th, 2005, 2:54 pm

Dr. Gonzo wrote:
100 wrote:
MICK wrote:[quote="Dr. Gonzo"]It's just a stamp who cares? You don't see me getting angry just because the cleveland indians mascot looks like me.


hahahaha



THAT AINT THE SAME EITHER AND I NEVER SEEN A REAL NATIVE AMERICAN THAT LOOK LIKE THE CLEVELAND INDIANS MASCOT.

REDSKINS- THATS NOT REALLY DERAGATORY ESP IF YOU EMBRACED THAT WORD.


What the hell are you talking about?

The indians mascot is racist.
http://www.aimovement.org/ncrsm/

And as far as "redskins" that word is extremely racist.

I wonder how asian people would feel if a sports team named it's self the "yellowskins" yeah, I'm sure they would be ok with that name.

Also you are totally contradicting yourself you just said "I NEVER SEEN A REAL NATIVE AMERICAN THAT LOOK LIKE THE CLEVELAND INDIANS MASCOT." well guess what Memin doesn't look a any black person, I have ever seen either.[/quote]

SO FIRE FACE YOUR SAYING WE LOOK LIKE MONKEYS I TAKE IT?



HOW MANY INDIANS REALLY HAVE RED SKIN SOME OSRT OF WHITE COMPLEXION IT SURE ISN'T RED!

[img]http://www.archives.gov/research_room/research_topics/native_americans/images/indians_051a.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.archives.gov/research_room/research_topics/native_americans/images/indians_052a.jpg[/img]

http://www.archives.gov/research_room/r ... s_053a.jpg
Havasupai girl

http://www.archives.gov/research_room/r ... s_069a.jpg
Eskimo group of 11 men, women, and children dressed in fur, Port Clarence, Alaska.
Photographed by William Dinwiddie, 1894.
American Indian Select List number 69.

[img]http://a1259.g.akamai.net/f/1259/5586/5d/images.art.com/images/-/Ten-Commandments--C10000319.jpeg[/img]

[img]http://www.nativeamericanlinks.com/images/Girldancer.jpg[/img]






THOSE ARE NATIVE AMERICANS^^^^

[img]http://www.nativepeoples.com/np_features/np_articles/1999_summer_article/su99-mascots_images/masc_pic2.jpg[/img]

LOOKS NOTHING LIKE THE MAN HOLDING IT^^^

[img]http://www.nativepeoples.com/np_features/np_articles/1999_summer_article/su99-mascots_images/masc_header.gif[/img]


THAT CLEVELAND INDIAN CAN LOOK LIKE ANYTHING IT WANTS BUT ITS DEPICTED AS AN INDIAN WHY CAUSE OF THE FEATHER? INDIANS ARE NOT THE ONLY GROUP THAT WEARS FETAHER SO THAT ARGUMENT IS OUT! HIS RED COLORED FACE WHOA I NEVER SEEN AN INDIAN THAT RED!

FLORIDA ST SEMINOLE- CAN I CALL HIM A NEGRO INDIAN? HE FOR SURE AINT RED BUT YES HES NATIVE OR COULD BE A SAMBO!

TANKEN FROM AN ARTICLE
In a crowded field, the "red-Indian" references are stand-out slurs, and the "r-word" is the worst. Several schools have dropped them with little prompting or fanfare. Brainerd Community College in Minnesota went from Red Raiders to Raiders in 1989. St. John's University in Jamaica, New York, ended its half-century tradition in 1994, changing Redmen to Red Storm. Southern Nazarene University in Bethany, Oklahoma, replaced Redskins with Crimson Storm in 1998.

It was the Sixties. The passion for dignity and equal treatment was palpable. The civil rights movement stressed self-image, self-description, pride. Blacks were demanding an end to "Sambo's," the outdated "Negroes" and the "n-word." Chicanos were moving in on "Frito Bandito." Asian-Americans were ducking stinging words used against the enemy in Vietnam. Women were telling men to stop calling them "girls."

[img]http://www.nativepeoples.com/np_features/np_articles/1999_summer_article/su99-mascots_images/masc_pic3.jpg[/img]

^^ARE THERE ANYONE COMPLAING ABOUT THE ORANGEMEN MASCOT DO YOU KNOW THE ORIGIN OF THE ORANGEMEN? I BET NOT

[url]http://www.nativepeoples.com/np_features/np_articles/1999_summer_article/su99-mascots.html[/url]

THE WORD BLACK IS NOT RACIST AND RED SHOULD NOT BE EITHER.
IM A BLACK MAN YOU A RED MAN! WHATS DERAGATORY ABOUT THAT?





ASIANS YELLOW? THATS A FAKE AS LABEL SOME PRESIDENT FROM THE 80'S CAME UP WITH. YOU KNOW WHAT. THEY NEED TO GET RID OF ASIANS AS YELLOW PEOPLE CAUSE ITS INACCURATE I NEVER HERE ANY ASIAN REFER TO THEMSELVES AS YELLOW BUT SIMPLY ASIAN OR WHATEVER COUNTRY THE DESCEND FROM REALLY!

EVERYONE WANTS TO BE LABEL A COLORED NAME. FIRST THERE WERE BLACK AND WHITE THEN CAME BROWN BY MEXICANS IN THERE MOVEMENT(WHY NOT BE CALLED CHICANO OR MEXICAN) ON THE WEST AND NOW ASIAN PEOPLE ARE YELLLOW? FOLKS GET REAL THEY ASIAN AND THATS IT!


THATS LIKE THEY VIEW LATINOS AS COLORED PEOPLE WHEN THERE ARE WHITE ONES TOO YOU KNOW
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Postby Dr. Gonzo » July 13th, 2005, 3:17 pm

"SO FIRE FACE YOUR SAYING WE LOOK LIKE MONKEYS I TAKE IT?"

Did, I say you looked like monkeys? You are the one that came up with that assessment with that quote.

Some "blacks" have brown skin aswell should we start calling them browns instead?

What part of the term "redskin" don't you find offensive towards native Americans?

red·skin (rĕd'skĭn')
n. Offensive Slang.
Used as a disparaging term for a Native American.

"Redskin" is a pejorative for Native Americans. The term originates from the fact that In the past there was a going rate for the scalps or hides of indigenous men, women, and children often referred to as "Redskins". These "redskin" trophies could be sold to most frontier trading posts.
http://www.answers.com/topic/redskin

"THE WORD BLACK IS NOT RACIST AND RED SHOULD NOT BE EITHER.
IM A BLACK MAN YOU A RED MAN! WHATS DERAGATORY ABOUT THAT?"


The reason black is not offensive is because some blacks actually have black skin unlike indians who DON'T have red skin.

"EVERYONE WANTS TO BE LABEL A COLORED NAME. FIRST THERE WERE BLACK AND WHITE THEN CAME BROWN BY MEXICANS IN THERE MOVEMENT(WHY NOT BE CALLED CHICANO OR MEXICAN) ON THE WEST AND NOW ASIAN PEOPLE ARE YELLLOW? FOLKS GET REAL THEY ASIAN AND THATS IT!


THATS LIKE THEY VIEW LATINOS AS COLORED PEOPLE WHEN THERE ARE WHITE ONES TOO YOU KNOW"


Everyone does not want to labeled a color name especially from a different race. I know for a fact indians don't like the term "redskins" which was given to them by the whites just like asians don't like to be called yellow people by ignorant people.
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Postby never die inside » July 13th, 2005, 3:40 pm

don't mean to interrupt u guys arguing, but reading this thread reminded me of this ish...

[img]http://www.ehlist.com/vulgaria/images/fightingwhites.jpg[/img]

Damm some Native American students at the University of Northern Colorado made this to protest the Redskin's mascot. They made a basketball team with the name " The FIghting Whities"

[img]http://www.uwm.edu/~gjay/Whiteness/fightinwhites.jpg[/img]

LOLZZ!!!!!!!!!!!

I remember seein this in the newspaper like coupla years ago and thought it was funny as fucc... haha.

Little Owl said, "The Fighting Whities" issue is "to make people understand what it's like to be on the other side of the fence. If people get offended by it, then they know how I feel, and we've made our point."


i still think the mexican stamp thing is just a diversion by mexican president vicente fox to try to divert attention away from how he's gonna lose the presidential election comin up... the timing of it all just seems real shady to me...

is vicente fox jewish?
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Postby Dr. Gonzo » July 13th, 2005, 3:57 pm

vicente fox is of english ancestry
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Postby 100 » July 13th, 2005, 3:59 pm

Ancient Tribes of America wrote:don't mean to interrupt u guys arguing, but reading this thread reminded me of this ish...

[img]http://www.ehlist.com/vulgaria/images/fightingwhites.jpg[/img]

Damm some Native American students at the University of Northern Colorado made this to protest the Redskin's mascot. They made a basketball team with the name " The FIghting Whities"

[img]http://www.uwm.edu/~gjay/Whiteness/fightinwhites.jpg[/img]

LOLZZ!!!!!!!!!!!

I remember seein this in the newspaper like coupla years ago and thought it was funny as fucc... haha.

Little Owl said, "The Fighting Whities" issue is "to make people understand what it's like to be on the other side of the fence. If people get offended by it, then they know how I feel, and we've made our point."


i still think the mexican stamp thing is just a diversion by mexican president vicente fox to try to divert attention away from how he's gonna lose the presidential election comin up... the timing of it all just seems real shady to me...

is vicente fox jewish?



he may be, there are a small population of jews in mexico i believe they are wealthy though. this is do to people having no knowlegde of different groups of where abouts or a specifc country getting labled as one specific people[b](mexico). but for the most part im sticking to him being a spanish-mexican then meztizo 2nd then jew-whatever the hell that is lol.[/b]


the guy holding the fighting whites shirt looks white to me! lol

fighting redmen, fight blues, greenmen, lady techsters, can be tied to school colors too.

university of hawaii rainbows- the rainbow is almost a symbol of homosexuality in a certain order of colors.


question to ATA-why would he issue a negative image stamp of afro-cubans or african americans to help him win presidency?

i wonder what fidel Castro has OR had to say about this since they are semi close.
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Postby 100 » July 13th, 2005, 4:02 pm

Dr. Gonzo wrote:vicente fox is of english ancestry



Vicente Fox was born in Mexico City, July 2, 1942.

He is the second of nine children born to farmer José Luis Fox, now deceased, and Mercedes Quesada.

As a child, together with his family he moved to the San Cristóbal ranch in the municipality of San Francisco del Rincón, in the state of Guanajuato, where he would play with the children of the communal land owners, share with them their childhood and, in his own words, "see close up one of the evils that unnecessarily afflicted our country: poverty".

Vicente Fox is friendly, respectful, straightforward, and honest. Life on the farm taught him to value the loyalty of people and appreciate Mexico's enormous potential to become in every way a successful nation.

"I know the importance of opportunity –he says firmly–. I grew up on the land with the children of peasants and the only thing that sets me apart from my childhood friends are the opportunities I had and they did not".

He studied Business Administration at the Mexico City campus of the Ibero-American University. Looking back, Vicente Fox remembers how his provincial appearance, "like a ranchhand", contrasted with that of his classmates.

He went on to study for a Diploma in Upper Management, taught by professors from Harvard University Business School.

In 1964 he joined Coca-Cola de México as a route supervisor.

From aboard a delivery truck he had the opportunity to see for himself Mexico's most remote corners. Thanks to his efforts, he was promoted to President for Mexico and Latin America, the youngest person in the company to occupy such a position.

With his accumulated experience, he decided to return to Guanajuato to participate actively in business, politics, society, and education, to improve life in his state.

Whether as a businessman or politician, Vicente Fox Quesada has always done everything he can to improve the common good and ensure equal opportunities.

A loving father, he has shared the joy of home and work with his four adopted children: Ana Cristina, Vicente, Paulina and Rodrigo.

He was the Founding President of the Board of Patrons of the Amigo Daniel Orphanage, an institution where many children are cared for and loved; President of the Loyola Board of Patrons, that promotes the Ibero-American University in León, and the Lux Institute, a school where thousands of Guanajuato students have graduated.

He has served as a Board Member of the United States-Mexico Chamber of Commerce and as a Director of the Grupo Fox, whose companies –involved in the farming and agribusiness industries and the manufacture of footwear and cowboy boots for export– provide many employment opportunities.

He joined the National Action Party (PAN) in the 1980s, encouraged by the late Manuel J. Clouthier.

In 1988, he was elected Federal Deputy for the Third District of León, Guanajuato.
While in Congress he paid special attention to agricultural matters. At that time, he also wrote for several national and state newspapers.

In 1991 he ran in the election for governor of the state of Guanajuato. In 1995, he stood again, this time in the extraordinary elections for governor, and won by a significant majority.

During his administration, Vicente Fox always gave clear account both of the state's finances and his personal assets. He made Guanajuato the fifth largest economy in Mexico and in light of the excellent results of his government, was chosen by the Alliance for Change (PAN-PVEM) as its candidate to the presidency of Mexico in the elections to be held in the year 2000.

He wrote an autobiographical book called Vicente Fox a Los Pinos (his path to the presidential residence) summarizing his political beliefs and immense passion for Mexico.
July 2, 2000, Vicente Fox won the elections and that same day promised to "...put together a plural, honest, and capable government. A government that includes this country's best citizens".

Later that year, during his December 1 inaugural address, the President of all Mexicans, Vicente Fox Quesada, undertook to continue to build a generous country:

"Today, all of us men and women are responsible for carrying out the mandate of those exemplary elections”, he said unflinching. “A mandate for change, to bring in a democratic exercise of power that is within our grasp, where all of us will live better lives".

A year after his victory in the presidential elections, July 2, 2001 the official residence of Los Pinos was the setting for an historic event: the civil marriage of Vicente Fox Quesada, president of the United Mexican States, to Mrs. Marta Sahagún Jiménez, who in this way celebrated three very important events: the President's 59th birthday, the first anniversary of democratic change in Mexico, and their wedding.

Today, Mexico is different. And the President of the Republic works tirelessly to fulfill the commitment he mentioned in his inaugural address: "I have and will continue to have an obligation to drive forward the efforts of this great nation. To work passionately for those who made Mexico what it is, for those who built the Mexico we have today, and for those who dreamt of a different, successful, and triumphant Mexico".
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Postby Dr. Gonzo » July 13th, 2005, 4:27 pm

Actually, I was wrong. Fox is actually of Irish and Spanish ancestry. He has ZERO mexican blood in him.

Vicente Fox
AKA Vicente Fox Quesada

Born: 2-Jul-1942
Birthplace: Mexico City, Mexico


Gender: Male
Religion: Roman Catholic
Ethnicity: Hispanic
Sexual orientation: Straight
Occupation: Head of State

Level of fame: Somewhat
Executive summary: President of Mexico

Wife: Marta Sahagún


High School: Campion High School, Prairie du Chien, WI
University: Harvard University
University: Universidad Iberoamericana, Mexico


President of Mexico 2000-present
Partido Accion Nacional 1980-present
Coca Cola
Irish Ancestry Paternal
Mexican Ancestry
Spanish Ancestry Maternal
Dubya Ranch Hand Mar-2004
http://www.nndb.com/people/406/000024334/
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Postby 100 » July 13th, 2005, 5:19 pm

Dr. Gonzo wrote:Actually, I was wrong. Fox is actually of Irish and Spanish ancestry. He has ZERO mexican blood in him.

Vicente Fox
AKA Vicente Fox Quesada

Born: 2-Jul-1942
Birthplace: Mexico City, Mexico


Gender: Male
Religion: Roman Catholic
Ethnicity: Hispanic
Sexual orientation: Straight
Occupation: Head of State

Level of fame: Somewhat
Executive summary: President of Mexico

Wife: Marta Sahagún


High School: Campion High School, Prairie du Chien, WI
University: Harvard University
University: Universidad Iberoamericana, Mexico


President of Mexico 2000-present
Partido Accion Nacional 1980-present
Coca Cola
Irish Ancestry Paternal
Mexican Ancestry
Spanish Ancestry Maternal
Dubya Ranch Hand Mar-2004
http://www.nndb.com/people/406/000024334/




SO HISPANIC LABEL EXIST IN MEXICO? THAT AINT IN THE CENSUS
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Postby TheReal » July 15th, 2005, 6:55 am

Dr. Gonzo wrote:
TheReal wrote:
Dr. Gonzo wrote:[quote="TheReal"]To Lonewolf and "Dr." Gonzo:

Who cares what this stamp is supposed to represent, and what black folks in Mexico think concerning this stamp, insofar as not having a problem with it. It's like me saying that native americans don't mind living on reservations, or better yet, there were black slaves who didn't mind living in slavery back in the day.

Either case, it wouldn't have justified the conditions of these people, universally.

Need I explain more?


What the hell are you trying to imply?


*I'm not implying, whether I'm stating, and if you're not able to catch what I'm saying, then you're just that slow...


If, I'm slow, Then you are completely ignorant.[/quote]

*I'd rather be ignorant of something, because at least I would've gotten there honestly, because in the end, if you don't know something, you just don't know something. Even the best and adept of minds, can fall victims to periods of them being ignorant of a particular fact, or thing.

Whereas someone who's slow like yourself, well-that's a mental defect on your brain. Being knowledgeable, or not knowledgeable of a particular thing will hardly change your condition...
Just the facts!
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Postby Dr. Gonzo » July 15th, 2005, 8:54 am

TheReal wrote:*I'd rather be ignorant of something, because at least I would've gotten there honestly, because in the end, if you don't know something, you just don't know something. Even the best and adept of minds, can fall victims to periods of them being ignorant of a particular fact, or thing.

Whereas someone who's slow like yourself, well-that's a mental defect on your brain. Being knowledgeable, or not knowledgeable of a particular thing will hardly change your condition...


ignorant
adj

1. Knowing very little; uneducated.

Thesaurus: untrained, illiterate, uneducated, superstitious, vulgar, crude; Antonym: learned, tutored.
2. Knowing little or nothing about it.

http://www.allwords.com/word-ignorant.html

The "Real" you are extremely ignorant that explains your uneducated posts here.
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Postby TheReal » July 15th, 2005, 9:44 am

Dr. Gonzo wrote:
TheReal wrote:*I'd rather be ignorant of something, because at least I would've gotten there honestly, because in the end, if you don't know something, you just don't know something. Even the best and adept of minds, can fall victims to periods of them being ignorant of a particular fact, or thing.

Whereas someone who's slow like yourself, well-that's a mental defect on your brain. Being knowledgeable, or not knowledgeable of a particular thing will hardly change your condition...


ignorant
adj

1. Knowing very little; uneducated.

Thesaurus: untrained, illiterate, uneducated, superstitious, vulgar, crude; Antonym: learned, tutored.
2. Knowing little or nothing about it.

http://www.allwords.com/word-ignorant.html

The "Real" you are extremely ignorant that explains your uneducated posts here.


*Look foolish one, the definition of ignorant, is still something that I would rather be tagged with, because much of the definition infers that if someone's uneducated, know very little, untrained, or illiterate, etc.-all they would have to do, is be exposed to opportunities whereby they can receive enlightment, so that they can be educated, know a lot, be properly trained, and highly literate. However, to be a fool like yourself, who just so happens to be a slowpoke, inept intellect-that's far more worse, because it infers that your brain capacity, really isn't all that stable, and that no matter what kinds of opportunity is given to you, so that you can explore new things and become more enlightened, it would be a great waste of time, seeing as how you're incapable of grasping anything beyond the length of your nose: BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST THAT SLOW!
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Postby Dr. Gonzo » July 15th, 2005, 9:49 am

Wow you really are that ignorant. You can't even see that being "ignorant" has similar characteristics to being "slow" you know like misguided, inexperienced, unwitting, innocent, naive, misinformed and benighted, but knowing how extremely ignorant you are of course you would not be able to see that.
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Postby TheReal » July 15th, 2005, 11:16 am

To "Dr." Charlatan,...oops, I mean Gonzo:

-Wow you really are that ignorant. You can't even see that being "ignorant" has similar characteristics to being "slow" you know like misguided, inexperienced, unwitting, innocent, naive, misinformed and benighted,

*I do know that the word "ignorant" can denote someone who's slow, but the definition itself doesn't have to fully encompass just someone who's slow, but someone who's misinformed, or ignorant, misguided, naive, or inexperienced, when it comes to handling, or knowing certain facts.

But of course you won't be able to understand a thing I'm saying, seeing as how you're just that SLOW! What you have, can't be cured by simply relaying information to you, oh no. Because your stupidity is FOREVER ETERNAL!

-but knowing how extremely ignorant you are of course you would not be able to see that.

*The only thing that I'm ignorant of, is how it would feel, to be a dimwitted, slowpoke idiot like yourself. That's what I'm truly misinformed, or ignorant of...
Just the facts!
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Postby Dr. Gonzo » July 15th, 2005, 1:00 pm

TheReal wrote:To "Dr." Charlatan,...oops, I mean Gonzo:

-Wow you really are that ignorant. You can't even see that being "ignorant" has similar characteristics to being "slow" you know like misguided, inexperienced, unwitting, innocent, naive, misinformed and benighted,

*I do know that the word "ignorant" can denote someone who's slow, but the definition itself doesn't have to fully encompass just someone who's slow, but someone who's misinformed, or ignorant, misguided, naive, or inexperienced, when it comes to handling, or knowing certain facts.

But of course you won't be able to understand a thing I'm saying, seeing as how you're just that SLOW! What you have, can't be cured by simply relaying information to you, oh no. Because your stupidity is FOREVER ETERNAL!

-but knowing how extremely ignorant you are of course you would not be able to see that.

*The only thing that I'm ignorant of, is how it would feel, to be a dimwitted, slowpoke idiot like yourself. That's what I'm truly misinformed, or ignorant of...


Call me Gonzo you fake.

Being called slow by you means absolutely nothing to me seeing you are a complete embicile. I been called alot worse by actual people who ain't boneheaded ignorant excraments like yourself.
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Postby TheReal » July 15th, 2005, 2:02 pm

Call me Gonzo you fake.

*I call it as I see it, "Dr." Charlatan...oops (ahem) Gonzo, who probably received your doctorate from a diploma mill. How long did it take you? Was it about 2 to 3 weeks, after you sent them $100.00?

-Being called slow by you means absolutely nothing to me seeing you are a complete embicile.

*I know that you can take comfort in wanting to think of me as an "embicile(sic)", but at least I know how to spell the word, FOOL!

-I been called alot worse by actual people

*I know you have...

-who ain't boneheaded ignorant excraments like yourself.

*I'd rather have a bonehead, than a head full of air, with nothing between the ears, who pretends to be a "doctor," but in the end, displays their lack of erudition, seeing as how they can't spell the words "excrement" and "imbecile."

You're a dumb bastard...
Just the facts!
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Postby Cold Bear » July 15th, 2005, 2:51 pm

Aight you people.

http://www.authentichistory.com/diversity/

These are real deal historical racist images designed to dehumanize minorities. Check this shit out.

This is a real problem that all minorities encounter, TO THIS DAY. A lot of negative portrayals are done on the sly. People need to keep an eye out, and like they say in the NYC Subways for suspicious packages,

"If you see something, say something!"
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Postby Dr. Gonzo » July 15th, 2005, 2:53 pm

I got Dr. Gonzo from the movie Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas you jackass, I never said, I was a physician or a physicist you retard.

"I'd rather have a bonehead, than a head full of air, with nothing between the ears"

You idiot being a bonehead and having a head full air is the same thing.

And thanks for the corrections, I wouldn't expect anything less from a idiot like you who makes petty attacks on grammar.
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stick to topic

Postby Anonymous20 » July 15th, 2005, 9:27 pm

Back to the topic. Those stamps are foul. I never really looked at them closely, and I can understand why people would be offended. Shame on who ever decided that they would be great stamps for the country of Mexico.
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Postby blakman » July 16th, 2005, 6:21 am

alonso wrote:Back to the topic. Those stamps are foul. I never really looked at them closely, and I can understand why people would be offended. Shame on who ever decided that they would be great stamps for the country of Mexico.


Yeah, but you have fools like Dr.Gonzo and other mexicans saying it ain't a big deal! :evil: Yes, it is a big deal !! To me, it feels like they are deliberately trying to start some king of confrontation with black folks!! Why, I don't know!! But I have heard some black people say that, it is very coincidental, that all of this is going on, when black people are going to be coming together by the millions, to celebrate the 10 anniversary of the million man's march!! Black people are to attend this gathering by the millions, so certain people are trying to find ways of keeping black people distracted, by keeping us focused on B.S!!
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Postby Dr. Gonzo » July 16th, 2005, 8:55 am

blakman wrote:
alonso wrote:Back to the topic. Those stamps are foul. I never really looked at them closely, and I can understand why people would be offended. Shame on who ever decided that they would be great stamps for the country of Mexico.


Yeah, but you have fools like Dr.Gonzo and other mexicans saying it ain't a big deal! :evil: Yes, it is a big deal !! To me, it feels like they are deliberately trying to start some king of confrontation with black folks!! Why, I don't know!! But I have heard some black people say that, it is very coincidental, that all of this is going on, when black people are going to be coming together by the millions, to celebrate the 10 anniversary of the million man's march!! Black people are to attend this gathering by the millions, so certain people are trying to find ways of keeping black people distracted, by keeping us focused on B.S!!


You forgot about the blacks in veracurz who also don't think it's a big deal you idiot.
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Postby blakman » July 16th, 2005, 9:05 am

To Dr.Gonzo:

You damn fool. :roll: Here is a little gift for your ass!!!

MEXICO CITY, Mexico (Reuters) -- Mexico's tiny black community demanded Monday that President Vicente Fox apologize for a set of stamps featuring a black comic book figure that U.S. civil rights groups have slammed as racist.

The Asociacion Mexico Negro, which represents some 50,000 blacks living on the Pacific coast, said in a letter to Fox that Memin Pinguin, a 1940s comic book character drawn with thick lips and a flat nose, was stereotypical and racist.

"Memin Pinguin rewards, celebrates, typifies and cements the distorted, mocking, stereotypical and limited vision of black people in general," said the letter signed by leaders of the association.

The letter marks the first official complaint from a Mexican group over the stamps, which went on sale last week and provoked a storm of controversy in the United States. U.S. civil rights groups said they should be withdrawn.

Fox has said the stamps are not racist and ignored calls to pull them from circulation. His Foreign Minister Luis Ernesto Derbez said the affair was exaggerated by "specific groups in the United States who make a living from this kind of scandal."

"They look more ridiculous than we do," he said in a radio interview.

Political correctness is barely existent in Mexico, where there are few black immigrants, Caucasians are commonly addressed as "Guero" ("Whitey") and dark-skinned locals are nicknamed "Morenito" or "Negro" without causing offense.

Generations of Mexicans grew up reading the cartoon strip escapades of Memin Pinguin, a mischievous black boy whose looks and monkey-like antics are endearing but embody outdated ideas about blacks, like many comic books of the time.

"The stamps are 101 percent offensive, there is no doubt about it," said Rev. Glyn Jemmott, a Catholic priest in the 98 percent black village of El Ciruelo in Guerrero state, and one of the signatories of the letter.

"What is evident is the level of tolerance of racism that exists in the country. We are accustomed to racism to the point where anyone who dares question it runs the risk of being considered unpatriotic," he told Reuters by telephone.

Rejecting the U.S. criticism and insisting they are not racist, Mexicans have been lining up to buy the stamps. One state has rationed sales because of high demand, and the stamps have been bid as high as $200 per sheet in Internet auctions.

Mexicans are often accused of discrimination against Indians, who often live hand to mouth in poor communities.

Their lack of sensitivity to racism against blacks may be worse because Mexicans so rarely see black people.

Jemmott lives in one of a cluster of tight-knit black communities along the Pacific coast, south of Acapulco, that are home to thousands of descendants of slaves. Many Mexicans are unaware the communities exist.

In May, U.S. civil rights groups were outraged when Fox remarked that Mexican immigrants in the United States did jobs "not even blacks" would do.

Copyright 2005 Reuters. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/ ... index.html
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Postby Dr. Gonzo » July 16th, 2005, 9:32 am

blakman wrote:To Dr.Gonzo:

You damn fool. :roll: Here is a little gift for your ass!!!

MEXICO CITY, Mexico (Reuters) -- Mexico's tiny black community demanded Monday that President Vicente Fox apologize for a set of stamps featuring a black comic book figure that U.S. civil rights groups have slammed as racist.

The Asociacion Mexico Negro, which represents some 50,000 blacks living on the Pacific coast, said in a letter to Fox that Memin Pinguin, a 1940s comic book character drawn with thick lips and a flat nose, was stereotypical and racist.

"Memin Pinguin rewards, celebrates, typifies and cements the distorted, mocking, stereotypical and limited vision of black people in general," said the letter signed by leaders of the association.

The letter marks the first official complaint from a Mexican group over the stamps, which went on sale last week and provoked a storm of controversy in the United States. U.S. civil rights groups said they should be withdrawn.

Fox has said the stamps are not racist and ignored calls to pull them from circulation. His Foreign Minister Luis Ernesto Derbez said the affair was exaggerated by "specific groups in the United States who make a living from this kind of scandal."

"They look more ridiculous than we do," he said in a radio interview.

Political correctness is barely existent in Mexico, where there are few black immigrants, Caucasians are commonly addressed as "Guero" ("Whitey") and dark-skinned locals are nicknamed "Morenito" or "Negro" without causing offense.

Generations of Mexicans grew up reading the cartoon strip escapades of Memin Pinguin, a mischievous black boy whose looks and monkey-like antics are endearing but embody outdated ideas about blacks, like many comic books of the time.

"The stamps are 101 percent offensive, there is no doubt about it," said Rev. Glyn Jemmott, a Catholic priest in the 98 percent black village of El Ciruelo in Guerrero state, and one of the signatories of the letter.

"What is evident is the level of tolerance of racism that exists in the country. We are accustomed to racism to the point where anyone who dares question it runs the risk of being considered unpatriotic," he told Reuters by telephone.

Rejecting the U.S. criticism and insisting they are not racist, Mexicans have been lining up to buy the stamps. One state has rationed sales because of high demand, and the stamps have been bid as high as $200 per sheet in Internet auctions.

Mexicans are often accused of discrimination against Indians, who often live hand to mouth in poor communities.

Their lack of sensitivity to racism against blacks may be worse because Mexicans so rarely see black people.

Jemmott lives in one of a cluster of tight-knit black communities along the Pacific coast, south of Acapulco, that are home to thousands of descendants of slaves. Many Mexicans are unaware the communities exist.

In May, U.S. civil rights groups were outraged when Fox remarked that Mexican immigrants in the United States did jobs "not even blacks" would do.

Copyright 2005 Reuters. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/ ... index.html


Just 50,000 black mexicans found it offensive? I wonder why the number wasn't bigger when their is around 700,000 black mexicans in the pacific coast area.
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Postby Anonymous20 » July 16th, 2005, 1:14 pm

Dr Gonzo is entitled to his opinion, but like I said earlier, those stamps are shameful too me. but i do like to hear what everybody thinks. I would like to hear some more on people that defend these stamps.
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Postby Anonymous20 » July 16th, 2005, 1:16 pm

Dr. Gonzo wrote:
Just 50,000 black mexicans found it offensive? I wonder why the number wasn't bigger when their is around 700,000 black mexicans in the pacific coast area.


i believe that the black mexicans are on the east coast of Mexico, not the west pacific coast, right?
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