What The Mexicans Trying To Prove

[Cold Bear]

this guy se11 with his conjectures... "and yeah europeans did fight when they come over. but who are the ones fighting NOW? blacks are the ones feuding with them, blacks are the ones killing them, blacks are the ones that are doing shit to them NOW. but instead of realizing that, you point a finger back at someone else like you always do, instead of taking some responsibility." etc. etc.

Man, shut up with all that exaggerated out of context mess. Despite the Sur / Black gang violence and the Latin King / Blood beef out here, there are ALL TYPES of forums and arenas where black and brown unite, after all black and brown come from the same circumstances. Matter fact, that's why all the killing is going down, too. Access and proximity to eachother's neighborhoods and situation. Nobodies banging on whites because they're somewhere else... on top of that I HIGHLY DOUBT any of this shit would be happening on a widespread level in LA without the AB influence. After all, it don't happen in Texas, it don't happen in the Bay. it's not just that Mexicans and Blacks can't get along, there's something else at work. Whyare you as a white guy saying ANYTHING about violence in a city across the country that you've never seen anyway?

And also with all your talk about Blacks coming into neighborhoods is trouble... what about all the whites coming into neighborhoods driving minorities out and hiking up the rent everywhere, gentrifying shit and pushing out Blacks AND browns. Now when we see a white guys walking around at night where I live my partner would say "there goes the neighborhood". Here come the whites with the cops backing them up and starting shit for intimidation, with their Whole Foods markets, sun-dried tomato organic guacamole, and special turkish seed olive crackle bread...lol. With all your talk about you growing with PR's you should know that PR's grow up as much or more with Blacks.

This is not an issue of ALL Blacks everywhere, or ALL Latinos, since we know that's not the case all over the country. So don't make it a issue about how you are scared of Blacks.

[Cold Bear]

Correction:

This is not an issue of ALL Blacks everywhere, or ALL Latinos, since we know that's not the case all over the country. So don't make it a issue about how you are scared of Blacks all the way over here in New York City that has nothing to do with the situation at hand in Los Angeles, California.

[Dr. Gonzo]

*Look bitch, I never said that “BLACK PPL ARE INNOCENT”, rather, I was given you, and those white folks who come to your defense, an historical outlay of what really went down back in the day, when black gangs ruled the streets of L.A., and how they dealt with the overall Mexican/chicano community! You can check out all the posts that I’ve put up on this thread, as well as on other threads, throughout this site, wherein you’ll read the truth of the matter.

When did Black gangs rule East LA? LOL

The only place black gangs were dominant was in South Central, Watts, Compton and Inglewood basically the south of LA. Mexicans have ALWAYS have that huge chunk of East LA all to themselves. So to say blacks ruled the streets of LA is ludicrous. Each race has had a piece of LA and now with all the central american and mexicans moving into black commnuties the blacks piece of LA is rapidly shrinking. But don't worry mexicans and central americans don't really get along to well so when some Salvadorean kills a Mexican, I'm sure that will bring a smile to your face.

So basically LA is like a metaphor for the whole US.

Everybody is for themselves hatin on each other.

What the hell are you talking about?

I was just stating facts that East LA has always been dominated by Mexican gangs and South LA was dominated by Black gangs.

[se11]

I hear what you're saying, but you still didn't address what I posted up! In other words, if mexicans/chicanos fu-- with black folks, when black folks walk through their hoods, does it justify black folks hating, and becoming racist towards mexicans/chicanos, or is the fingerpointing only done towards black folks, when it comes to justifying the racism of mexicans and their white allies???

no, nothing justifies any form of racism. but, blacks are already stereotypes as thugs through rap, media, basketball, ect. then it doesnt help when a group of black kids come through, living up to the stereotype and starting trouble with innocent mexicans. and this happens all time after time, so blacks get that reputation.

thing about it on the reverse angle. if on the news they started reporting all whites were racist rednecks from the KKK and were against blacks. then a group of whites CAME INTO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, burned a cross on your lawn, and justified the sterotype, how would you feel twords whites once you experienced first hand racism and prejudism.

personally i have nothing against black people at all, but when i see a group of black kids coming through a neighborhood where they don't live, i can pretty much suspect that they could be up to no good. and you can't say they didn't earn that reputation. but i suspect they could be up to no good, but keep in mind they might not be either. its just profiling. and i can see why some mexicans have something agianst blacks. but, i still do not justify any sort of racism, but you have to know whats up.

[Sentenza]

[quote="TheReal"]*Look bitch, I never said that “BLACK PPL ARE INNOCENT”, rather, I was given you, and those white folks who come to your defense, an historical outlay of what really went down back in the day, when black gangs ruled the streets of L.A., and how they dealt with the overall Mexican/chicano community! You can check out all the posts that I’ve put up on this thread, as well as on other threads, throughout this site, wherein you’ll read the truth of the matter.

When did Black gangs rule East LA? LOL

The only place black gangs were dominant was in South Central, Watts, Compton and Inglewood basically the south of LA. Mexicans have ALWAYS have that huge chunk of East LA all to themselves. So to say blacks ruled the streets of LA is ludicrous. Each race has had a piece of LA and now with all the central american and mexicans moving into black commnuties the blacks piece of LA is rapidly shrinking. But don't worry mexicans and central americans don't really get along to well so when some Salvadorean kills a Mexican, I'm sure that will bring a smile to your face.

So basically LA is like a metaphor for the whole US.

Everybody is for themselves hatin on each other.

What the hell are you talking about?

I was just stating facts that East LA has always been dominated by Mexican gangs and South LA was dominated by Black gangs.[/quote]

Yea i know. i was with you on this one.
I just said that it reminds me of the US as a whole.
Each race on its own and everybody hatin each other as you can see especially these days. See what i mean?

[Dr. Gonzo]

[quote="Dr. Gonzo"][quote="TheReal"]*Look bitch, I never said that “BLACK PPL ARE INNOCENT”, rather, I was given you, and those white folks who come to your defense, an historical outlay of what really went down back in the day, when black gangs ruled the streets of L.A., and how they dealt with the overall Mexican/chicano community! You can check out all the posts that I’ve put up on this thread, as well as on other threads, throughout this site, wherein you’ll read the truth of the matter.

When did Black gangs rule East LA? LOL

The only place black gangs were dominant was in South Central, Watts, Compton and Inglewood basically the south of LA. Mexicans have ALWAYS have that huge chunk of East LA all to themselves. So to say blacks ruled the streets of LA is ludicrous. Each race has had a piece of LA and now with all the central american and mexicans moving into black commnuties the blacks piece of LA is rapidly shrinking. But don't worry mexicans and central americans don't really get along to well so when some Salvadorean kills a Mexican, I'm sure that will bring a smile to your face.

So basically LA is like a metaphor for the whole US.

Everybody is for themselves hatin on each other.

What the hell are you talking about?

I was just stating facts that East LA has always been dominated by Mexican gangs and South LA was dominated by Black gangs.[/quote]

Yea i know. i was with you on this one.
I just said that it reminds me of the US as a whole.
Each race on its own and everybody hatin each other as you can see especially these days. See what i mean?[/quote]

Yeah, I get what you mean, but when gangs are involved obviously the whole race issues get ALOT worst.

America for the most part divided but they really wouldn't easily turn to violence like gangs.

[se11]

This is not an issue of ALL Blacks everywhere, or ALL Latinos, since we know that's not the case all over the country. So don't make it a issue about how you are scared of Blacks.

i never said anything about anything besides the sur/black conflict. that is the main source of mexican/black fighting from my knowledge. and me being a white guy, can relate to the mexicans more because when i was growing up, when we seen black kids we knew they weren't here for a game of ball or to hang out. im not scared of blacks, i just know that if there in my neighborhood there probably up to some shit.

And also with all your talk about Blacks coming into neighborhoods is trouble... what about all the whites coming into neighborhoods driving minorities out and hiking up the rent everywhere, gentrifying shit and pushing out Blacks AND browns. Now when we see a white guys walking around at night where I live my partner would say "there goes the neighborhood". Here come the whites with the cops backing them up and starting shit for intimidation, with their Whole Foods markets, sun-dried tomato organic guacamole, and special turkish seed olive crackle bread...lol. With all your talk about you growing with PR's you should know that PR's grow up as much or more with Blacks.

well, you believe the truth, maybe. maybe they are trying to drive you out, maybe they do want you guys out, i dunno. im not saying nothing about what i dont know about. but i grew up with a mix of people. puerto ricans, irish, italians, albanians, and the rest were a mix of everything. so no matter what ethnicity you were, you would be down and you'd know whats up. i know PR's live more with blacks, but where i was, it was mixed up, and was a little different. there weren't THAT many PR's, but there was enough.

[Cold Bear]

I'm just saying man, I realize you're trying to address the issue, but its very different from your situation.

It's not a reactionary thing like you are suggesting, being defensive, it's very much a mutual attitude scenario. And that mutual attitude wouldn't be there if there was not Mexicans doing the gangbang thing coming into contact with Blacks doing the gangbang thing. It's a cultural situation that's a commonality between the two of machismo and turf war that creates the beef, not simply Blacks being 'troublemakers' like you say. It goes both ways and always remember the first Black gangs were formed to protect against a corrupt Police Department run by a openly racist white commissioner and racist white gangs.

And about gentrification, whites can bring some hell upon a neighborhood, just not in the same form. Whole communities of color are uprooted and are 'cracked down on' by the police when whites move in. Look at Fort Greene, people in that hood can't even eat at the damn restaurants they're building under their noses.

[Sentenza]

personally i have nothing against black people at all, but when i see a group of black kids coming through a neighborhood where they don't live, i can pretty much suspect that they could be up to no good. and you can't say they didn't earn that reputation. but i suspect they could be up to no good, but keep in mind they might not be either. its just profiling.

Yea but you know, it is because you have a certain stereotypical imagination of blacks in your head.
You wouldnt think like this if a group of blacks would come your way who look like Erkel or something.
But of course if a bunch of black gangbangers would cross my path i d get the fuck out of there and there is more than a grain of truth in it that blacks have "earned" this gangbangin/criminal reputation.(well the media is also pushing it alot i think)
(By the way the same is valid if a mob of drunk nazis would ask me into a dark alley pretending to ask me what time it is etc.)

But then we should think why it is like that, cause no (black) man or woman is born bad or criminal. There are many reasons to it and the most important is, that every human being is a product of its environment
no matter if they are black, brown, white or yellow.
So if a black kid grows up in the Ghetto its going to be a Ghetto-Kid most probably.
See, if both of us would have grown up in a suburb of Moscow, we would most likely sit in a staircase drinking vodka and shoot at people with Kalashnikovs (AK 47).

The most important thing of this race versus race issue is that people need to understand why the situation of today is like that. Why blacks and mexicans are mostly poor and many become criminals.
It doesnt get us anywhere going back and forth with this "this race is better/smarter/more ambitious than that race" BS.

I assume that no black or mexican is ill-willed against the other by nature.

It is all the result of stupid turf wars going out of control, prejudices and dumbass people fueling the fire.
Now nobody can help blacks or mexicans to get out of that vicious circle but themselves.
By trying to reach hands and keeping a clear head.
Otherwise this shit is going to explode and cost many lifes of innocent people.

[Sentenza]

personally i have nothing against black people at all, but when i see a group of black kids coming through a neighborhood where they don't live, i can pretty much suspect that they could be up to no good. and you can't say they didn't earn that reputation. but i suspect they could be up to no good, but keep in mind they might not be either. its just profiling.

Yea but you know, it is because you have a certain stereotypical imagination of blacks in your head.
You wouldnt think like this if a group of blacks would come your way who look like Erkel or something.
But of course if a bunch of black gangbangers would cross my path i d get the fuck out of there and there is more than a grain of truth in it that blacks have "earned" this gangbangin/criminal reputation.(well the media is also pushing it alot i think)
(By the way the same is valid if a mob of drunk nazis would ask me into a dark alley pretending to ask me what time it is etc.)

But then we should think why it is like that, cause no (black) man or woman is born bad or criminal. There are many reasons to it and the most important is, that every human being is a product of its environment
no matter if they are black, brown, white or yellow.
So if a black kid grows up in the Ghetto its going to be a Ghetto-Kid most probably.
See, if both of us would have grown up in a suburb of Moscow, we would most likely sit in a staircase drinking vodka and shoot at people with Kalashnikovs (AK 47).

The most important thing of this race versus race issue is that people need to understand why the situation of today is like that. Why blacks and mexicans are mostly poor and many become criminals.
It doesnt get us anywhere going back and forth with this "this race is more of a troubleshooter than that race" BS.

I assume that no black or mexican is ill-willed against the other by nature.

It is all the result of stupid turf wars going out of control, prejudices and dumbass people fueling the fire.
Now nobody can help blacks or mexicans to get out of that vicious circle but themselves.
By trying to reach hands and keeping a clear head.
Otherwise this shit is going to explode and cost many lifes of innocent people.

[Sentenza]

where is the fuckin edit button

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An Open Letter to Black Americans from Latinos
By Elizabeth Martinez


The media have been full of it this year, with such headlines as "Hispanics Now Largest Minority," "America’s Ethnic Shift," "Latinos pass Blacks unless you count Black Latinos," "Hispanics Pass Blacks ..." We even hear late-night TV host Jay Leno "joke" to his musician (a Black man) that since Latinos are now the largest minority—not African Americans—he and the musician are minorities together.

As Latino/a teachers, activists, community people, students, artists and writers, we stand fiercely opposed to anyone making those statistics a reason to forget the unique historical experience of African Americans, the almost unimaginable inhumanity of slavery lasting centuries, the vast distance that remains on their long walk to freedom. We cannot let whatever meager attention has been given to the needs of Black people up to now be diminished by those new statistics.

In the Latina/o community, we will combat the competitiveness that could feed on those headlines and blind some of our people to the truth of this society. We will combat the opportunism that is likely to intensify among Latino politicians and professionals. We celebrate the unique resistance by African Americans over the centuries, which has provided an inspiring example for our communities, as shown by the Chicano movement of 1965-75. We affirm the absolute necessity of standing with you against racist oppression, exploitation and repression—the real axis of evil—and of supporting your demand for reparations.

Latinos/as who may find it hard to see beyond their own poverty, their own struggles against racism—which are indeed real—need to think about one simple truth. Only solidarity and alliances with others will create the strength needed to win justice.

Those newly announced statistics emphasize difference and pit Brown against Black, like athletes racing against each other in the Oppression Olympics. But other numbers show how much we share the same problems of being denied a decent life, education, health care—all human rights. In times of war, look who fights and dies for the United States out of all proportion to our populations: Black and Brown people.

To put it bluntly: We are both being screwed, so let’s get it together!


History makes the message clear. It is worth recalling a major reason why George Washington—the invader who wasn’t our Great White Father any more than yours—became president. He made a name for himself by successfully using the tactic of divide and conquer against different native nations and tribes. Divide and conquer, later divide and control, has sustained White supremacy ever since. It will continue to do so, unless we cry out a joint, unmistakable, thunderous, NO!


That will not be easy. Our peoples have different histories and cultures, together with great ignorance about each other. Competition for scarce resources, from jobs to funding for university departments, can be real. Latinos/as do not always see how, in a nation so deeply rooted in racism, they may have internalized the value system of White supremacy and White privilege


As Latinos/as, we are committed to help build alliances against our common enemies. We oppose the divisiveness encouraged by statistics about who is more numerous than who. As activists, we urge our community to support Black struggles and to fight together at every opportunity for our peoples’ liberation. As educators, we work to teach about both Black and Brown history, and our past alliances. As men and women, we can never do too much to assert our common humanity across color lines.


Last, but hardly least, Latinas/os are a very diverse people with many different nationalities and histories. We also have various roots. In particular, we should recall that more Africans were brought to Mexico as slaves than the number of Spaniards who came, as can be seen by the all-African villages in Mexico today. The African in us demands proud recognition.


SIGNATORIES: Dr. Rodolfo Acuna, historian and author, California State University, Northridge; Juan Carlos Aguilar, program director, Solidago Foundation, Northampton, Mass.; Gloria Anzaldœa, writer, scholar and spiritual activist, Santa Cruz, Calif.; Ricardo Ariza, director, multicultural affairs, Creighton University, Omaha, Neb.

Frank Bonilla, professor, University of California-Riverside and professor emeritus, Hunter College, N.Y.; Roberto Calderon, associate professor, history, University of North Texas, Denton; Antonia Casta–eda, associate professor, history, St. Mary’s College, San Antonio, Texas; Marta Cruz-Jansen, associate professor, Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton; Raoul Contreras, associate professor, Latino Studies, Indiana University-NW, Gary; Kaira Espinosa, student activist, San Francisco State University, San Francisco; Estevan Flores, executive director, Latino/a Research & Policy Center, University of Colorado, Denver; Bill Gallegos, Freedom Road Socialist Organization, Los Angeles; CŽsar Garza, graduate student, Loyola University, Chicago; Yolanda Broyles-Gonzales, professor, Chicano Studies, University of California-Santa Barbara

Francisco Herrera, community singer and activist, San Francisco; Jacque Larrainzar, musician and civil rights activist, Puerto Rico; Aya de Le—n, writer, performer and activist, Berkeley, Calif.; Emma Lozana, director, Centro Sin Fronteras, Chicago

Jennie Luna, teacher, danzante and activist, New York; Roberto Maestas, executive director and co-founder, El Centro de La Raza, Seattle; Frank Mart’n del Campo, president, Labor Council for Latin American Advancement, San Francisco; Elizabeth "Betita" Mart’nez, author, activist and teacher, San Francisco; Adelita Medina, free-lance journalist, New York; Roberto Miranda, editor-in-chief, "Spanish Journal," Milwaukee, Wisc.; Carlos Montes, board president, Centro Community Service Center, Los Angeles

Richard Moore, executive director, Southwest Network for Environmental and Economic Justice, Albuquerque, N.M.; Cherr’e Moraga, author and playwright, San Francisco; Aurora Levins Morales, writer, historian, educator and organizer, Berkeley, Calif.; Ricardo Levins Morales, artist, educator and organizer, Minneapolis, Minn.; Estela Ortega, director of operations and co-founder, El Centro de la Raza, Seattle; Joe Navarro, school teacher, poet and activist, Hollister, Calif.; JosŽ Palafox, doctoral candidate and filmmaker, U.C.-Berkeley ; Eric Quezada, housing activist, San Francisco; Raœl Qui–ones-Rosado and Mar’a Reinat-Pumarejo, Institute for Latino Empowerment, Caguas, Puerto Rico; Marianna Rivera, Educator, Zapatista Solidarity Coalition, Sacramento Ca.; Dr. Julia E. Curry Rodriguez, assistant professor, San Jose State University; Victor M. Rodriguez, Crossroads Ministry board member and associate professor, California State University-Long Beach; Graciela S‡nchez, executive director, Esperanza Peace & Justice Center, San Antonio, Texas; John Santos, musician, author, educator and founder of Machete Ensemble, Oakland, Calif.; RenŽe Saucedo, activist-attorney and director Day Labor Program, San Francisco; Olga Talamante, executive director, Chicana/Latina Foundation, Pacifica, Calif.; Luis "Bato" Talamantez, human rights activist, former political prisoner and poet, San Francisco; Piri Thomas, author, poet and activist, Albany, Calif.; Dr. Mercedes Lynn Uriarte, professor of journalism, University of Texas, Austin; Leonard Valdez, director, Multi-Cultural Center, California State University, Sacramento.

(The letter was prepared by Elizabeth Mart’nez, director of the Institute for MultiRacial Justice, in consultation with Phil Hutchings, last chairman of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee and co-founder of the Institute. Send comments to the Institute in San Francisco at im4mrj@aol.com)

[blackmanofhonor]

White people love seeing as at each others throats.

[blackmanofhonor]

Either whites side with ignorant blacks.......''they are taking jobs from you too since youre a legal American''

or they side with ignorant latinos ''I understand why you hate them and prejudge them we do too''


ENOUGH OF THIS SHIT,HOW LONG WILL WE SUFFER AND KILL EACH OTHER,FILL UP THE PRISONS WHILE THEY SIT BACK AND ENJOY?

DOOBIE SMARTEN UP YOU DUMB BITCH THE SAME SHIT YOU SAY ABOUT BLACKS WHITES SAY ABOUT YOUR PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!

['X']

White people love seeing as at each others throats.

Not that I'm thinking we have to impress white folk, but I do wonder sometimes what has to go through white folk minds when they view these boards with us refering to ourselves as n!@##s and some even having the audacity to explain why it's ok for us to call ourselves n!@#$s( ), and blantently dissing our Brown Bruthas and vice versa, and having pages and pages of our dead homies list, and just the overall ignorance of our people on these boards.. Yeah I know it's alot of ignorant white folk on these boards, but my thoughts are on my people. Even though some of these white folk on these sites will be quick to say "oh I'm not racist"( ), I have a good feeling of what they thinking when they read our bulls!@# on these sites... And not to mentioned what is allowed by what I'm assumimg is a brutha who runs this site...I guess I'm with the freedom of speech thing, but some of these post in no way should be accepted..."gang" site or whatever, to many passes are given to the wrong people...

['X']

DOOBIE SMARTEN UP YOU DUMB ***** THE SAME SHIT YOU SAY ABOUT BLACKS WHITES SAY ABOUT YOUR PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!

To quote my Brown sista from the above article I posted....

"To put it bluntly: We are both being screwed, so let’s get it together!"

[blackmanofhonor]

''You think you have it bad? Come to California sometime. It's an infestation. They come here illegally, they don't bother to learn English and they bring with them drugs, poverty, pollution. You only have 300? At my highschool at least a third of the students are Mexican, out of a student body of 2000. They form their filthy cliques and go around acting obnoxious and cocky and shouting in Spanish. I don't think I've ever heard them speak English at all amongst themselves. Then the kids get pregnant and have lots of little Mexican babies and in 14 years, our tax dollars will be paying for them to go to prison, and then they can score drivers liscenses and we'll be paying for them to go to college free...Man it makes me mad.

Then you go to places like Winters, an agricultural town and it's all you bloody see, are Mexicans. Pal, you don't know what I would do, to lower their numbers to 300. California is lost. It's been lost for a while''


''I live around western new york and i cannot stand the puerto ricans in my school. There is quite a bit of white kids like me, but the keep it underwraps not to cause any trouble. There is only about 10 black kids in our school and 300 f'n spics.

its my senior year and i really cant stand all this anymore. i know there are lots of others on this board that feel the same, but i need some support!''


''First of all your idiocy is beyond belief, but being that you are a MESTIZO and not Spanish that comes as no real shock. Where do you think the language your people speak is from? Have you ever heard of Spain? Do you know where that country is? I'll give you a hint, it's not in Central America. How do you think your people obtained, European linguistics, religion, architecture and surnames? Does the year 1492 ring any bells to you?

The true Spaniards on this forum are 100% White European. You have absolutely no knowledge of your own Indian background. It's pathetic almost. The true Latin label was originally used to classify Spaniards, Portuguese, French, Romanians and Italians. It was not until the U.S. census decided to classify muds like you as Latin/Hispanic till Mexicans, Central Americans and all other spics decided to further fool themselves into thinking the language they speak, their surnames and their religion is part of who they really are. The reality is you are nothing more than an Indian from a slave background that never knew what your true culture was because it died off with most your ancestors. You just happen to be part of the people that managed to stay alive this long.

Not even a fair amount of fellow Indians/mestizos believe any of the above that you said. There are many South American Indians, Mexicans, etc. that totally reject all Spanish culture and want independence from such culture and classifications. Not everyone that speaks Spanish is non-white. Just as not everyone that speaks English or has an English surname is white. If your logic was actually the truth then Shaquille O'Neal is the darkest Irishman I have ever seen. Do yourself a favor and refrain from posting anything else.
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''The ones at the top of the tree in Mexico are white. Most white Mexicans stay in Mexico and those that do come to the U.S travel by plane or motor vehicle in a respectable fashion paying the proper fees and using the correct documentation. Rather than the crudely constructed rafts you non-whites prefer.

If it wasn't for the white minority in Mexico you wouldn't even have a government or established national infrastructure.

The reason so many of you greasy skinned, big haired, barely coherent, criminally minded darks slime your way into the U.S is because although Mexico is corrupt, it is still a meritocracy and the white minority outperforms the rest of you in every facet of society.

If the U.S was still a meritocracy, it wouldn't matter which side of the border you were on, you'd still be at the bottom of the pile.''


''Go back to England? Funny, the mexicans happen to be the freeloaders who would starve to death without the White Europeans. The least of all they can do is respect our space, and stay in mexico''
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i can relate to you also.my small town is being over run with spics and spooks alike and they seem to like it becouse they know the few of us that do not like it are being stopped from doing any thing about it.well time is up and i am tired of being sick and tired . it is time for all of my white brothers and sisters to stand up and take back what is ours.and i know the company that was spoken about in this post i worked ther until i got fed up with all of the spics.''

[Sentenza]

^^Let me guess....Those are those fags from Stormfront?

[blackmanofhonor]

''This propaganda was publicly promoted in the same classrooms that villianized Nazis. The hypocrisy made me sick to my stomach. All Hitler wanted to do was preserve his country for its people...and this is now considered radical and unacceptable. But this MUD is not only tolerated, but given a public forum with compulsorary education. These "people"--and I use the term "people" loosley--publicly advocate the demise and conquering of those that founded this country. Forget the niggers. They are deminishing. The Jews will ultimately lose. Anyone who lives in the southwest knows that the Spics are our true enemy. These beings are so completely inferior: 1) They're grossly obese 2) They're short 3) They have, on average, an IQ 40% lower than whites--even lower than blacks 4) They have almost no contributions to the world whatsoever. As the old joke goes, "What do you get when you cross an Indian with a buffalo?.... A MEXICAN!"''

^^^Doobies buddy.

[se11]

It's a cultural situation that's a commonality between the two of machismo and turf war that creates the beef, not simply Blacks being 'troublemakers' like you say. It goes both ways and always remember the first Black gangs were formed to protect against a corrupt Police Department run by a openly racist white commissioner and racist white gangs.

i know what you mean.

But of course if a bunch of black gangbangers would cross my path i d get the fu-- out of there and there is more than a grain of truth in it that blacks have "earned" this gangbangin/criminal reputation.(well the media is also pushing it alot i think)

yeah, and that's how trouble starts. some people want to hold down their neighborhood and won't get out of the way, and that's how shit pops off.

DOOBIE SMARTEN UP YOU DUMB BITCH THE SAME SHIT YOU SAY ABOUT BLACKS WHITES SAY ABOUT YOUR PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!

you make black people out to be SAINTS. why dont you take some responsibility, and stop accept the fact that there are racist blacks, you hate whites, and right now you are trying to recruit more people to hate white people.

then you sit back and wonder why some white people are racist. maybe because assholes like you say shit like that.

[blackmanofhonor]

''Mexicans only care about themselves, I've said it time in and time out.

You won't see them praising the American flag, because most simply don't respect it. They only care about Mexico, and how many Hispanics they can fill America with. They are just as annoying, if not more so, then many black people.

To say most of them are leeches would be an undertatement. ''

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I hear you brother, I live in Cali and we've got nothing but blade-weilding negroes and fly covered spics crawling out of every crack in the floor. I went to a baseball game and those dirty fools had the nerve to boo the American anthum. Made me sick. Made me sick and it made me angry.''

[DOOBIE'S BACK]

BLACKMAN, REST YOUR NECK BOY. I NEVER SAID WHITES WERE MY BUDDY, I SAID THEY HAVE THE SAME FEELINGS TOWARDS BLACKS. WHAT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND? WE ARE BOTH TIRED OF BLACK ANTICS. AND FUC_ WHITE PEOPLE ANYWAYS. THEY'RE SCARED OF MEXICANS. WE DON'T SWEAT THEM. SO STOP PAINTING A PICTURE THAT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. WHITE FOLKS GAVE ME A FULL SCHOLARSHIP TO GO TO SCHOOL. YOU BEST BELEIVE I'M GOING TO EXPLOIT THAT SHIT TO THE FULLEST. THIS POSTING YOU HAVE COMES FROM A KID THAT SAY'S "WE DONT SAY ANYTHING SO WE DONT START TROUBLE" THATS A WHITE MENTALITY. "SCARED TO SPEAK UP" LIKE I SAID, IF BLACK FOLKS WERE GIVING SCHOLARSHIPS TO ME, THEN I'D RIDE THEIR ASS TO THE BANK ALSO. BUT SINCE WHITE FOLKS ARE, WELL, I'LL TAKE THAT FREE MONEY AND GET MY EDUCATION(NURSING DEGREE) I OWE NOTHING TO THEM AND NEVER WILL. I HAVE PLENTY OF CARNALES WHO WILL BACK MY PLAY WHENEVER I NEED IT.

[blackmanofhonor]

[quote="se11
then you sit back and wonder why some white people are racist. maybe because assholes like you say shit like that.[/quote]

Most whites are racist and will be racist regardless to what I or any other black/latino person says.

[blackmanofhonor]

BLACKMAN, REST YOUR NECK BOY. I NEVER SAID WHITES WERE MY BUDDY, I SAID THEY HAVE THE SAME FEELINGS TOWARDS BLACKS. WHAT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND? WE ARE BOTH TIRED OF BLACK ANTICS. AND FUC_ WHITE PEOPLE ANYWAYS. THEY'RE SCARED OF MEXICANS. WE DON'T SWEAT THEM. SO STOP PAINTING A PICTURE THAT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. WHITE FOLKS GAVE ME A FULL SCHOLARSHIP TO GO TO SCHOOL. YOU BEST BELEIVE I'M GOING TO EXPLOIT THAT SHIT TO THE FULLEST. THIS POSTING YOU HAVE COMES FROM A KID THAT SAY'S "WE DONT SAY ANYTHING SO WE DONT START TROUBLE" THATS A WHITE MENTALITY. "SCARED TO SPEAK UP" LIKE I SAID, IF BLACK FOLKS WERE GIVING SCHOLARSHIPS TO ME, THEN I'D RIDE THEIR ASS TO THE BANK ALSO. BUT SINCE WHITE FOLKS ARE, WELL, I'LL TAKE THAT FREE MONEY AND GET MY EDUCATION(NURSING DEGREE) I OWE NOTHING TO THEM AND NEVER WILL. I HAVE PLENTY OF CARNALES WHO WILL BACK MY PLAY WHENEVER I NEED IT.

alot of whites hate you more than they hate us.I see you like sucking that white dick thou huh bitch?

[DOOBIE'S BACK]

^^GROW UP NET-BANGER. I DONT HAVE TIME TO GET INTO A PISSING CONTEST WITH YOU. COME WITH SUBSTANCE OR RELAX. WHY ALL THE NAME CALLING? INSTEAD OF BLACKMANOFHONOR, YOUR NAME SHOULD BE "BLACKMANOFHURTFEELINGS"

[blackmanofhonor]

''As much as this shows the "browning" of this country is not slowing down, there maybe a positive in this.

As much as blacks are for the most part, parasites, the mex and blacks absolutely HATE each other. This even more so than their hate for whites.

However, they do have one thing in common, they ALL vote for left-wing big gov and social programs.

If we are lucky, we will start to see more mex vs black crime etc...''

[blackmanofhonor]

''Of course(blacks and mexicans) they hate eash other.Their going to battle it out strictly for the free government money and housing benifits.

[blackmanofhonor]

^^GROW UP NET-BANGER. I DONT HAVE TIME TO GET INTO A PISSING CONTEST WITH YOU. COME WITH SUBSTANCE OR RELAX. WHY ALL THE NAME CALLING? INSTEAD OF BLACKMANOFHONOR, YOUR NAME SHOULD BE "BLACKMANOFHURTFEELINGS"

You cant hurt my feelings,but youre a bitch and as such,I will call you that.Ignorant people like you(both mexican and black) make shit worse for both of our people.

[blackmanofhonor]

''That is very sobering. Civil War 2 chess pieces are starting to move on the board.

I imagine that the NAACP isn't jumping for joy either. Latinos fall about midway between whites and blacks in terms of both crime rate and IQ. Most blacks will find themselves even more useless and incompetent -- most employers I know definitely favor Latinos as being better workers!

I suspect that the blacks and Latinos will see each other as competitors, not as allies. The very worst outcome for us would be if the blacks and Latinos should form a strategic alliance.
Perhaps we can fly under the radar and use this development to instill some rational fear into the lemmings? ''


''I have observed that spics are just barely brighter than negros. However, they are a larger threat to the USA because they speak spanish, and obviously they immigrate more than negros''

''The mestizo with an actual work ethic backed by Federal(our) money is really rather dangerous. Yeah, he'll get Sambo fired in a pinch, but so will our brethren. They also breed like flies due to strong Catholic leanings banning birth control. I truly suspect female Mexicans are born pregnant.''

[DOOBIE'S BACK]

[blackmanofhonor]

:(

yea frown bitch.you think whites dont hate your ass too?Theres more shit about latinos on stormfront than blacks.

[Dr. Gonzo]

American Civil War 2? Puh-Lease.

A civil war would have too consist of ALL America not just blacks and mexicans. America is MOSTLY white so it wouldn't be real civil war. I could just imagine white america laughing their ass off if Black and Brown started a war.

If white america decided to start a civil war black and brown would lose numbers wise and not too mention, the white man controls the best military in the world.