Mexicans vs Puerto Ricans in Los Angeles?

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Mexicans vs Puerto Ricans in Los Angeles?

Postby boston312 » February 2nd, 2006, 3:45 pm

I was wondering if anyone has heard of any hostilities between these two hispanic groups here in Los Angeles? I have heard back east in New York many Puerto Ricans constantly harass or rob illegal immigrant Mexicans looking for work. I also lived in Puerto Rico for a year (2000) and heard many derragatory comments from Puerto Ricans regarding Mexicans. There is no secret that these 2 groups are not the best of friends and it espeically shows in boxing when Puerto Rican and Mexican fighters have created the most fierce rivalry in the sport.
Although there are not a lot of Puerto Ricans in Los Angeles (there are a few in the Hawthorne/Inglewood area and the city of Corona), the few that I have talked to (along with some Dominicans) mentioned being harassed, assaulted or discriminated by Mexicans. I was also curious to see if many Puerto Ricans have been targeted in these Mexican vs Black race wars (reason being that many Puerto Ricans are African mixed with Taino Indiginious blood and Spanish).
My personal observation I have made between the 2 groups is that Puerto Ricans tend to side with Blacks and Mexicans with the Whites when it comes to creating allies.
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Postby Dr. Gonzo » February 2nd, 2006, 5:25 pm

LOL

Mexicans vs Ricans in LA?

There is a bigger hatred between Central Americans and Mexicans in LA. All the ricans I know end up marrying Mexicans because their ain't too many ricans here.
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Postby MiChuhSuh » February 2nd, 2006, 11:37 pm

^ Ya, there aren't even enought Boricans to beef like that. And Latin Kings in Pasadena is basically Mexican because of that.

And in LA Central Americans are definitely beefing with Mexicans now, Around Central and Koreatown are I saw a bunch of MS tags getting crossed out
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Postby MARTINEZ. » February 2nd, 2006, 11:55 pm

End Violence NOW wrote:^ Ya, there aren't even enought Boricans to beef like that. And Latin Kings in Pasadena is basically Mexican because of that.


Latin Kings in Pasadena ???
Active ???
Sureños ???

there used to be a Varrio Latin Kings in East Los...
extinct for the most part,
But these were Chicanos/Mexicans with No ties to LK in chicago/back East

MARTINEZ 8)
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Re: Mexicans vs Puerto Ricans in Los Angeles?

Postby MARTINEZ. » February 3rd, 2006, 12:01 am

boston312 wrote:I was wondering if anyone has heard of any hostilities between these two hispanic groups here in Los Angeles? I have heard back east in New York many Puerto Ricans constantly harass or rob illegal immigrant Mexicans looking for work. I also lived in Puerto Rico for a year (2000) and heard many derragatory comments from Puerto Ricans regarding Mexicans. There is no secret that these 2 groups are not the best of friends and it espeically shows in boxing when Puerto Rican and Mexican fighters have created the most fierce rivalry in the sport.
Although there are not a lot of Puerto Ricans in Los Angeles (there are a few in the Hawthorne/Inglewood area and the city of Corona), the few that I have talked to (along with some Dominicans) mentioned being harassed, assaulted or discriminated by Mexicans. I was also curious to see if many Puerto Ricans have been targeted in these Mexican vs Black race wars (reason being that many Puerto Ricans are African mixed with Taino Indiginious blood and Spanish).
My personal observation I have made between the 2 groups is that Puerto Ricans tend to side with Blacks and Mexicans with the Whites when it comes to creating allies.


BORIQUAS Ain't NO numbers here homie to try to start anything...

Matter of fact, I meet many Boriquas from LENNOX 13... Straight Sureños 8)
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Postby Oaktown_G » February 4th, 2006, 2:46 pm

In florida yeah i've heard plenty times ricans beaten on mexicans and in chicago but in cali it would take them forever to get there numbers up.
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Postby Silencioso » February 4th, 2006, 2:50 pm

There was a PR gang in East Hollywood back in the early 80's called King Cobras. They were cholos and got along with the 18th Street in that area.

I've heard there was another Rican gang in Lynwood calle Puerto Rican Fellas but I don't know if they were following the black style or the cholo style.
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Postby Quickdraw » February 6th, 2006, 10:07 pm

There aint no damn Ricans in LA. The biggest Rican populations in America be in this order, NY, CHI, Philly. Only NY and CHI have over 100,000 Ricans cuz they arent as big a Latino group as the Mexicans are. And for Mexican population in the cities its LA, followed by Houston, then Chicago. So if yall gonna ask bout Ricans VS Mexicans yall should ask people whose city actually has both and huge numbers. Yall dont know bout no Ricans! If a Rican doesnt like a Mexican up here in Chicago its prolly cuz of anomosity that Ricans have now that Mexicans are sorta dominating the latino numbers in Chicago and are still increasing. While the Ricans have been around for decades and were the founders of the gangs like the Latin Kings, Maniac Latin Disciples, PR Stones, etc. And now alotta the Rican gangs (they are still majority Rican) have taken in other groups including the Mexicans. So a Chi Rican Latin King might be kinda arrogant to a Mexican Latin King since the ALKN has roots in the Puerto Rican struggle. All they reall have in common is Spanish but Ricans got that black and Mexicans got that Indian. Im just looking out from the outside cuz Im not Rican or Mexican, you have to ask one of them. And we have King Cobras in Chicago. I guess the Chi mobs just go every where it seems.
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Postby perongregory » February 6th, 2006, 11:43 pm

Ricans got indan in them too. Taino indian. but the truth is they got more black because the spanish killed so much of the tainos.
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Re: Mexicans vs Puerto Ricans in Los Angeles?

Postby 1For14 » February 7th, 2006, 7:52 am

boston312 wrote:I was wondering if anyone has heard of any hostilities between these two hispanic groups here in Los Angeles? I have heard back east in New York many Puerto Ricans constantly harass or rob illegal immigrant Mexicans looking for work. I also lived in Puerto Rico for a year (2000) and heard many derragatory comments from Puerto Ricans regarding Mexicans. There is no secret that these 2 groups are not the best of friends and it espeically shows in boxing when Puerto Rican and Mexican fighters have created the most fierce rivalry in the sport.
Although there are not a lot of Puerto Ricans in Los Angeles (there are a few in the Hawthorne/Inglewood area and the city of Corona), the few that I have talked to (along with some Dominicans) mentioned being harassed, assaulted or discriminated by Mexicans. I was also curious to see if many Puerto Ricans have been targeted in these Mexican vs Black race wars (reason being that many Puerto Ricans are African mixed with Taino Indiginious blood and Spanish).
My personal observation I have made between the 2 groups is that Puerto Ricans tend to side with Blacks and Mexicans with the Whites when it comes to creating allies.


NAW AINT NO BIG PROBLEMS BETWEEN THEM I HEARD THERE WAS SOME LITTLE FIGHT BETWEEN FEW MEMBERS FEW WEEKS back BUT ITS ALL GOOD NOW.
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Postby MiChuhSuh » February 8th, 2006, 9:19 pm

MARTINEZ. wrote:
End Violence NOW wrote:^ Ya, there aren't even enought Boricans to beef like that. And Latin Kings in Pasadena is basically Mexican because of that.


Latin Kings in Pasadena ???
Active ???
Sureños ???

there used to be a Varrio Latin Kings in East Los...
extinct for the most part,
But these were Chicanos/Mexicans with No ties to LK in chicago/back East

MARTINEZ 8)


They are active, and I don't know what they would claim in the penn but I know they have beef with NSPX3, so I'm assuming that outside they aren't surenos

They are definitely active though. Honestly you don't hear about them much outside of Pasadena though, the valley is sort of cut of from the rest of LA county in some ways...

I would find and post pics but we saw how that worked out last time lol

pm me if you want to see some tags or basic stuff like that tho
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Postby ManifestTruth » February 15th, 2006, 4:50 pm

In the Northeast/New England, the Boricuas and Aztecs do not get along that well.. In CT, specifically New Haven, they have a fairly intense rivalry. One could say the Puerto Ricans haven't been the most hospitable as far as Mexicans moving into largely PR neigborhoods in large numbers.
Street fights, club fights, and so on...
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Postby PolarAC » February 16th, 2006, 7:15 pm

^^^Thats Crazy

I used to live in Providence about 10 years ago. While there always have been Ricans and Dominicans, I hear that there a grip Mexicans there now.

I got one question, do the East coast Mexicans rep themselves like L.A. Mexicans (ese style)? Or do they have their own thing going on?
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Postby ManifestTruth » February 16th, 2006, 7:52 pm

I've only seen a few Mexicans rocking that SoCal flava so far. Most of the ones who've migrated to the Northeast seem to be straight outta Mexico. You also have hordes of Central Americans 'round these parts now. Same
with them.. They seem very insular, not wanting to rock the boat so to speak. However, I've heard from heads in NY and NJ that Sur's and MS are starting to make their presence felt.

Providence, huh?? Don't forget about the Cape Verdean massive..lol
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Postby Dr. Gonzo » February 16th, 2006, 8:04 pm

LOL

Damn, Mexicans are invading the US. I know alot of Mexicans leaving Cali and going to other places but never heard of them going all the way to CT. I know NY is getting flooded with Mexicans.
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Postby ManifestTruth » February 16th, 2006, 8:36 pm

Definitely invading the US.. I aint mad at 'em though. The Aztecs and Mayans lost thousands of square miles of land to the Conquistadors and
the "Founders". What come 'round go 'round.. After the NAFTA jump-off,
there numbers really swelled in the Northeast. You'd be surprised, even
amazed bruh, at how many currently reside in CT. There may be an undercurrent of tension/resentment with the influx but that's just territorialism rearing it's head like always.. Tell you what though, getting
authentic carne asada and being able to eat at a real Tacqueria is pretty
cool. Lastly, there's a club owned by a South American cat in West Haven, CT that caters to that region along with Central America and Mexico and the whole Hispanolia(sp?). Breezed thru a few times. Salsa, merengue, and now Cumbia. Cats with cowboy hats and big mofockin' buckles.. Shit
off the hook, man..
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Postby MiChuhSuh » February 16th, 2006, 10:02 pm

Well the southern halp of America along with much of the west was "Mexican".... but then the Natives that called it there home didn't like the Aztecs either, which is part of the three major reasons it was so easy for Cortes to conquer the Aztecs, they were the most hated group since they were the conquerors (I guess like America and specifically white America today).

The tribes like the Navajo, Cherokee, Irquois, and all the other Natives that are living here in crappy reservations should get first pickings, they were more direct, and don't forget, a lot of "Mexicans" are more Spanish than Indian
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Postby PolarAC » February 17th, 2006, 4:28 pm

ManifestTruth wrote:
Providence, huh?? Don't forget about the Cape Verdean massive..lol



Haha Cape Verdeans. Their definately deep in Providence. You know I've only seen one Cape Verdean out here in L.A. Which is too bad becuase their women are fine...like a poor man's Brazilian chick :)
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Postby ManifestTruth » February 17th, 2006, 4:44 pm

"The tribes like the Navajo, Cherokee, Irquois, and all the other Natives that are living here in crappy reservations should get first pickings, they were more direct, and don't forget, a lot of "Mexicans" are more Spanish than Indian"

Excellent point..
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Postby UmanH-ay » February 26th, 2006, 6:29 pm

ahhh so i see, theres a mix of white and black in the bloodline, didnt the spanish wipe out the natives on the island of hispaniloa?
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Postby hamo_uce » February 26th, 2006, 7:29 pm

PRESIDENTE FOX of MEXICO is really half SAMOAN on his ,
mothers side eg: MARIA TO'OMALATAI FA'ALEAFAGA frm , MAOTA . WESTERN SAMOA married to JORGE VALENCIA FOX of ,
MONTERREY , MEXICO.....................
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Postby 100 » February 28th, 2006, 10:42 pm

YALL CATS IZ CAZY THERES LESS THAN 8,00 TAINOS IN PR

ABOUT 400,000 BLACKS OVER A MILLION WHITES AND THE MIXED MULLATO POPULATION O PR

EVERY PR DOES NOT HAVE AFRICAN IN THEM NOR TAINO SOME ARE JUST SPANISH EVERY JEARD F THE MIGRATIONS THAT TOOK PLACE?

THERES QUITE A FEW WHITE JEWS THERE TOO.

EVERY ONE IN PR IS NOT THE SAME AND DONT HAVE THE SAME RACIAL ANCESTRY BUT THE ISLAND ITSELF SHARES THAT MIXTURE OF CULTURE.
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Postby perongregory » February 28th, 2006, 10:45 pm

People know that, but it's like when you're talking about mexicans, you don't think of the couple of thaousand black mexicans, or the white Spanish mexicans, the Irish, or even the indigenous. You think of the stat quo and thats the mestizo.
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Postby 100 » February 28th, 2006, 10:56 pm

perongregory wrote:People know that, but it's like when you're talking about mexicans, you don't think of the couple of thaousand black mexicans, or the white Spanish mexicans, the Irish, or even the indigenous. You think of the stat quo and thats the mestizo.



i could not agree more but the reason that is is because the majority of mexicans in l.a or the united states are meztizo, no one would think twice about the black mexicans people somewhat know about the whites there they are the ruling class..spainards, french etc... the blacks are isolated very impoverished people and the indians have problems in there mexican land but the funny thing mexicans claim being aztecs more than anything but yet the meztizos in mexico treat them like what?
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Postby perongregory » February 28th, 2006, 10:59 pm

yeah it's unfortunate. The government even has the indigenous spliting amongst political lines. So The indigenous that side with the goveremnt (who promises them shit in turn for their land) fight the zapatistas and shit. The zapatistas don't want to fight them back because they have love for their people.
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Postby boston312 » March 1st, 2006, 1:18 am

hamo_uce wrote:PRESIDENTE FOX of MEXICO is really half SAMOAN on his ,
mothers side eg: MARIA TO'OMALATAI FA'ALEAFAGA frm , MAOTA . WESTERN SAMOA married to JORGE VALENCIA FOX of ,
MONTERREY , MEXICO.....................


This is the first time I ever heard of this. I was told that Fox was European, I think British or French (hence the name Fox). Never heard of his mother being Somoan
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Postby Dr. Gonzo » March 1st, 2006, 1:23 am

Fox is of Irish and of Spanish descent. That fool is a straight up whiteboy. :?

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Postby hamo_uce » March 3rd, 2006, 3:44 am

IS RICKY MARTIN TAINO or SPANISH PR ? :lol: :lol:
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Postby 100 » March 6th, 2006, 7:44 pm

hamo_uce wrote:IS RICKY MARTIN TAINO or SPANISH PR ? :lol: :lol:


word of muth spanish origin. he was on oprah talking about his heritage
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Re: Mexicans vs Puerto Ricans in Los Angeles?

Postby Lonewolf » March 6th, 2006, 9:40 pm

MARTINEZ. wrote:
boston312 wrote:I was wondering if anyone has heard of any hostilities between these two hispanic groups here in Los Angeles? I have heard back east in New York many Puerto Ricans constantly harass or rob illegal immigrant Mexicans looking for work. I also lived in Puerto Rico for a year (2000) and heard many derragatory comments from Puerto Ricans regarding Mexicans. There is no secret that these 2 groups are not the best of friends and it espeically shows in boxing when Puerto Rican and Mexican fighters have created the most fierce rivalry in the sport.
Although there are not a lot of Puerto Ricans in Los Angeles (there are a few in the Hawthorne/Inglewood area and the city of Corona), the few that I have talked to (along with some Dominicans) mentioned being harassed, assaulted or discriminated by Mexicans. I was also curious to see if many Puerto Ricans have been targeted in these Mexican vs Black race wars (reason being that many Puerto Ricans are African mixed with Taino Indiginious blood and Spanish).
My personal observation I have made between the 2 groups is that Puerto Ricans tend to side with Blacks and Mexicans with the Whites when it comes to creating allies.


BORIQUAS Ain't NO numbers here homie to try to start anything...

Matter of fact, I meet many Boriquas from LENNOX 13... Straight Sureños 8)
Cincho Martinez, Portoriqueños run with SUR in LOS. My Homeboys Chato, Speedo & Jesse are Boriquas and Speedo's jefita was real tight with my Jefita... Boriquas son Raza tambien in my hood.
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Postby junior » March 7th, 2006, 9:46 pm

i didint know they were here or that they live in the same areas because ricans are more priviliged than mexicans .. so they run with mexican varrios ?
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Postby TeeKay » October 27th, 2006, 2:50 am

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