The majority of hate crime are commited against Whites

[perongregory]

blacks stay in their own neighborhoods to do that punk shit.

[Anonymous20]

This line of justification is pointless, because I can easily retort white people used to go into black communities, especially in LA, when blacks couldn't go to the white side of town, to beat the blacks assess. So should I justify blacks "getting back" at whites because of this treatment?

you could and that a fair argument. there are STILL places that aren't safe for blacks to go. not going to deny that. but the majority of stuff going on today is the opposite.

It couldn't be the opposite man, population doesn't allow for that. Blacks are less than 7 percent of LA, how can they be doing all this stuff all around the city?, not trying to justify anything, but call it right. There are guilty parties on BOTh sides of the fence, the sooner we recognize that and stop playing the blame game, maybe we can get some real dialog going around here, we're treading water here folks!

population doesnt follow that? believe me their are no white kids going anywhere near south central to rob people for bikes or a couple of dollars.

Your still avoiding the question, and you still wanna play the blame game. Do you see why some of these things will never get Solved? And who said anything about white kids?, Who is the Majority Population wise in L.A. now?, it's not white people, i'll tell you that, so how can a group of people, who are less than 7 percent terrorize a 67% city majority?, i don't get it. But like i said before, there are guilty parties ON BOTH SIDES, but you STILL want to ALLOCATE most of it to black folks. I don't know what issues you've had with blacks se11, but you still don't seem like you want to even help fix this thing. When are people ALL PEOPLE gonna start taking responsibility for their actions?, this shit will go on and on until somebody is wise enough to do so.

[useless_person]

Does this include fat people?

[Anonymous20]

Does this include fat people?

What the Hell are You talking about?

[useless_person]

Im joking.

No but really, the stats that 'racist' put on for you is actually true.

White people used to have power over black people.
White people gave freedom to black people because MLKJ 'said so'.
Black people now use that freedom to commit crimes of revange against whites.

So I see how the stats are true. And if blacks are so gangsta and shit and are said to be, and own everyone and rule over people, then why are you using something you have against whites, and say they're still racist?


Now that blacks control gangs and have guns and train to kill and act all tough and whatnot, whites are over powered because blacks stole all the guns and firepower and blacks can use the freedom against whites in order to have revange, so they make people feel scared, and now you are saying whites are still bad.

Wow. I must compliment that everywhere you search to find stats about hate crimes, whites are more likely to be victimes of hate crimes commited by black, such gun murders are usually black on white and very rare to be white on black, and average to be black on black.

Just because you said so doesnt make it true. You have no power over no one and you will never have power over me. Stay off the dope that makes you hollucinate and fantasise about nonsense that is NOT TRUE.

[useless_person]

Oh shit, that was a close one.

187 means murder and even though I gave up being TOO much supersticious, I still have a little bit of juice left...

[useless_person]

There was 187 posts before the one I posted just before this one, and I had the 187th post, or whatever. Nvm now..

And yea, I hate my own race because they like to stick out such as the skateboard punks that it gives me such insperation to go pop a bullet though on of their skulls.

Thats why I 'act' all 'gangsta' with my MULTIRACIAL friends on the street and such and etc.

I hate that loud ass rock music. I rather listen to rap where people rhyme about their nice lives and big mansions and fancy cars and bling bling and money and hoes and shit than listen to people yell like morons on microphone which is just enough for a migrane to turn into a tumor.

[se11]

But like i said before, there are guilty parties ON BOTH SIDES

i dont know about LA, i dont live their. but unless skinhead gangs that are so secretive only the minorities they are hurting know about them, i doubt the parties are equal.

in new york, i dont know any of the "reported"crime numbers, but from just living and seeing what goes on around me, i never seen kids from where i live travel somewhere to target any black kids, unless some serious beef was going down. the same can't be said the other way around. i know blacks have came into our neighborhood and surrounding neighborhoods to target kids living in their.

why do you think some people are suspicious of groups of black kids walking around? because they are "fueled with so much hate"?

but you still don't seem like you want to even help fix this thing.

well lets see i have dudes like blackmanofhonor yelling at me and telling me that i am responisbile for all of his problems and people telling me i am why they dont have jobs. why would i necessarily want to fix anything for anyone who clearly hates me because they think i hate them(which i dont).

[perongregory]

useless post in the basura section.

[se11]

your not a fucking moderator, ill post whatever i want man.

[useless_person]

But like i said before, there are guilty parties ON BOTH SIDES

i dont know about LA, i dont live their. but unless skinhead gangs that are so secretive only the minorities they are hurting know about them, i doubt the parties are equal.

in new york, i dont know any of the "reported"crime numbers, but from just living and seeing what goes on around me, i never seen kids from where i live travel somewhere to target any black kids, unless some serious beef was going down. the same can't be said the other way around. i know blacks have came into our neighborhood and surrounding neighborhoods to target kids living in their.

why do you think some people are suspicious of groups of black kids walking around? because they are "fueled with so much hate"?

but you still don't seem like you want to even help fix this thing.

well lets see i have dudes like blackmanofhonor yelling at me and telling me that i am responisbile for all of his problems and people telling me i am why they dont have jobs. why would i necessarily want to fix anything for anyone who clearly hates me because they think i hate them(which i dont).

Thank you for clearing that out.

Anti-whites over there with the light bulb sure as hell doesnt seem like he wants to fix anything.

And I am not gonna start anything because he already did, and being 'fueled by anger' isnt what he was, he was just being ignorant thinking that no one will respond because he thinks he is soo important, and blames whites for black people's FORMER suffering and blames whites for all of the hate crimes occouring everyday that statistics show that whites are the victims and blacks are the SUSPECTS.

Plain and simple.

He was just feeling important and thought he could change something because his lack of knowledge doesnt know the differance from fact and opinion, which is the reason why he is so stupid.

But whatever you want to say, go ahead and do it. What you say is what you think. What people see is what is true. The eyes dont lie. And statistics like that are what they are because thats what people saw when they called 911 and studied who was hating on who.

What light bulb over there is saying is telling me that he is against factual records that are studied and can be proven by people who specialize in those type of things, and what he said is what he thought about it, and it turned out to be a waste of time even reading it, because if the opinion was to improve something in that matter, there wouldnt be any bull shit statements posted, now would there?

I see how this world is going to end, and im afraid to be living on it knowing that it will in that way....

[perongregory]

But like i said before, there are guilty parties ON BOTH SIDES

i dont know about LA, i dont live their. but unless skinhead gangs that are so secretive only the minorities they are hurting know about them, i doubt the parties are equal.

in new york, i dont know any of the "reported"crime numbers, but from just living and seeing what goes on around me, i never seen kids from where i live travel somewhere to target any black kids, unless some serious beef was going down. the same can't be said the other way around. i know blacks have came into our neighborhood and surrounding neighborhoods to target kids living in their.

why do you think some people are suspicious of groups of black kids walking around? because they are "fueled with so much hate"?

but you still don't seem like you want to even help fix this thing.

well lets see i have dudes like blackmanofhonor yelling at me and telling me that i am responisbile for all of his problems and people telling me i am why they dont have jobs. why would i necessarily want to fix anything for anyone who clearly hates me because they think i hate them(which i dont).

I know why they are suspicious of black kids walking around, because they are fueled with prejudice. Ny might be different with hoods so close to each other and harlem bein on the island and shit, but in LA we are segregated. And anyways, we could talk about bensonhurst racist Italians and f'ed up police and all that if you wanna get into mudslinging.

What you are saying is there exist some kind of justification for white racism, prejudice whatever. But if you say that, why can't I say, well white people are known to be racist so we're just getting them back for the racist shit they do to us.

[Anonymous20]

But like i said before, there are guilty parties ON BOTH SIDES

i dont know about LA, i dont live their. but unless skinhead gangs that are so secretive only the minorities they are hurting know about them, i doubt the parties are equal.

in new york, i dont know any of the "reported"crime numbers, but from just living and seeing what goes on around me, i never seen kids from where i live travel somewhere to target any black kids, unless some serious beef was going down. the same can't be said the other way around. i know blacks have came into our neighborhood and surrounding neighborhoods to target kids living in their.

why do you think some people are suspicious of groups of black kids walking around? because they are "fueled with so much hate"?

but you still don't seem like you want to even help fix this thing.

well lets see i have dudes like blackmanofhonor yelling at me and telling me that i am responisbile for all of his problems and people telling me i am why they dont have jobs. why would i necessarily want to fix anything for anyone who clearly hates me because they think i hate them(which i dont).

Thank you for clearing that out.

Anti-whites over there with the light bulb sure as hell doesnt seem like he wants to fix anything.

And I am not gonna start anything because he already did, and being 'fueled by anger' isnt what he was, he was just being ignorant thinking that no one will respond because he thinks he is soo important, and blames whites for black people's FORMER suffering and blames whites for all of the hate crimes occouring everyday that statistics show that whites are the victims and blacks are the SUSPECTS.

Plain and simple.

He was just feeling important and thought he could change something because his lack of knowledge doesnt know the differance from fact and opinion, which is the reason why he is so stupid.

But whatever you want to say, go ahead and do it. What you say is what you think. What people see is what is true. The eyes dont lie. And statistics like that are what they are because thats what people saw when they called 911 and studied who was hating on who.

What light bulb over there is saying is telling me that he is against factual records that are studied and can be proven by people who specialize in those type of things, and what he said is what he thought about it, and it turned out to be a waste of time even reading it, because if the opinion was to improve something in that matter, there wouldnt be any bull shit statements posted, now would there?

I see how this world is going to end, and im afraid to be living on it knowing that it will in that way....

Useless, you still seem hell bent on wanting to put the blame on the shoulders of Black people ALONE, and as far as the stat?, you didn't pay attention to my post at all did you?, i can see by your response, you didn't. And, "Angry?", LoL whatever, i've done nothing but talk, i've not called you out your name or anything. Butr if you wanna believe that blacks are killing white folks day and night all over the country, and somehow this has escaped the media?, LoL, the knock your self out , good luck with that viewpoint, but the bottom line you are not part of any solotions or talk of any. You here to pour gasoline on the fire, and you want stats?, Don't even go there my friend. Oh yeah Lol and who said anything about Blaming White folks?, once again useless you prove you don't read the posts, i'm not gonna say anything you go back and read it, the you can take your foot out of your mouth. And i think i am,"SO IMPORTANT", because i try to look for soloutions?, LMAO, whatever, i guess if i was talking about shoot up some shit, and beating white folks up, it would be more believable huh? your way of fixing things is for me to say," It's all my fault, i'm just a duimb ass nigger, i can't help beating on you whiteys, and rapin your women sorry massah!", is that what you wanna hear?, that you have no fault in this? I think that falls in the LACK OF TAKING RESPONSIBILITY AREA.

[se11]

I know why they are suspicious of black kids walking around, because they are fueled with prejudice.

no, it's because they know some shit will might go down.

But if you say that, why can't I say, well white people are known to be racist so we're just getting them back for the racist shit they do to us.

the same reason why black people today shouldnt be mad at white people today for slavery. THEY'RE NOT DOING IT TO THEM. white people aren't go around sayin "use that fountian nigger" or "use that bathroom colored." be mad at george washington and what-not because they were the ones who enslaved you. but to hold a grudge on people for something they didn't specifically do, and that most white people weren't even in the country during the time of slavery, is ridiculous.

i learned to "watch my back" when black people were around, but i dont stereotype the entire race for it.

weather you believe it or not, racism is at an all time LOW and it will only keep getting lower. believe it or not things HAVE changed since 1900.

but in LA we are segregated

then that must make people look and feel even more out of place.

[perongregory]

I know why they are suspicious of black kids walking around, because they are fueled with prejudice.

no, it's because they know some shit will might go down.

But if you say that, why can't I say, well white people are known to be racist so we're just getting them back for the racist shit they do to us.

the same reason why black people today shouldnt be mad at white people today for slavery. THEY'RE NOT DOING IT TO THEM. white people aren't go around sayin "use that fountian nigger" or "use that bathroom colored." be mad at george washington and what-not because they were the ones who enslaved you. but to hold a grudge on people for something they didn't specifically do, and that most white people weren't even in the country during the time of slavery, is ridiculous.

i learned to "watch my back" when black people were around, but i dont stereotype the entire race for it.

weather you believe it or not, racism is at an all time LOW and it will only keep getting lower. believe it or not things HAVE changed since 1900.

but in LA we are segregated

then that must make people look and feel even more out of place.

If white people know shit might/will go down. Hten blacks know they are racist and will follw us around a store, won't stop the taxi for us, hold their purse when we are around, discriminate us in the job market, etc. If whites know so much about all blacks, we have the same knowledge about all whites.

You talk about don't blame all whites, well don't act prejudice towards all blacks.

[Anonymous20]

weather you believe it or not, racism is at an all time LOW and it will only keep getting lower. believe it or not things HAVE changed since 1900.

but in LA we are segregated

All time low?, look i'm as hopeful as the next guy, but THAT is NOT TRUE. And yes things have changed but racisim is still here, it just got more subliminal, more subtle than before, but yes there have been some gains, i'll give you that, but to say it's at an all time low is just no a realistic statement at all.

[se11]

You talk about don't blame all whites, well don't act prejudice towards all blacks.

well stop fucking robbing our kids bikes and popping off in white neighborhoods. my friend got his bike robbed when he was like 11, and i remember him saying "some fucking niggers jumped me for my bike". you telling me that didn't give him an impression on his mind? on everyone's mind, telling everyone "i got robbed by some black kids." how do you think that looks? and when you know some black kids might kill you for a fucking bike, you kinda get a certian impression.

[perongregory]

You talk about don't blame all whites, well don't act prejudice towards all blacks.

well stop #%@&#%@ robbing our kids bikes and popping off in white neighborhoods. my friend got his bike robbed when he was like 11, and i remember him saying "some #%@&#%@ niggers jumped me for my bike". you telling me that didn't give him an impression on his mind? on everyone's mind, telling everyone "i got robbed by some black kids." how do you think that looks? and when you know some black kids might kill you for a #%@&#%@ bike, you kinda get a certian impression.

Well, tell some white girl not to tell me that they had one black family in her town but they killed the son and ran the parents off. Or tell some white kid not to call me a nigger when I was 7 and wanted to play with his dumb ass toys. I don't want to hear some sensationalist bs, because if you wanna talk about it I got plenty of stories that happened to me or that I heard of whites doin the same punk shit.

[perongregory]

And I don't get these stats. Am I looking at the wrong shit but this paragraph from http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2004/section1.htm , says that blacks make up 67.5% of the victims of single bias racially motivated hate crimes, while whites make up 20.5%. So what up? Are you trying to pull some shit on us?

By Bias Motivation
In 2004, racial bias motivated more than half (53.9 percent) of the 9,021 reported offenses within single-bias hate crime incidents; religious bias accounted for 16.4 percent; bias regarding sexual orientation, 15.6 percent; ethnicity or national origin, 13.3 percent; and disability bias, 0.8 percent.

Law enforcement agencies reported 4,863 offenses within single-bias incidents that were motivated by the offender’s racial bias. Among those offenses, 67.5 percent resulted from an anti-black bias, and 20.5 percent were due to an anti-white bias. Slightly more than 5 percent (5.2) of racially motivated incidents were driven by an anti-Asian or Pacific Islander bias, 2.0 percent involved a bias against American Indian or Alaskan Native races, and 4.8 percent were directed at groups of individuals in which more than one race was represented (multiple races, group).


By Bias Motivation
An examination of the data for victims of single-bias incidents indicated that most, 53.8 percent, were victims of hate crimes that were racially motivated. In addition, 16.7 percent of hate crime victims were targets of a religious bias; 15.6 percent, a sexual-orientation bias; 13.2 percent, an ethnicity or national origin bias; and 0.8 percent, a disability bias.

Racial bias motivated crimes against 5,119 hate crime victims of single-bias incidents. Nearly 68 percent (67.9) of the victims were the object of an anti-black bias. Slightly more than 20 percent (20.1) were victims of an anti-white bias, 5.2 percent were victimized because of an anti-Asian or Pacific Islander bias, and 2.0 percent were victims due to an anti-American Indian or Alaskan native bias. Victims of anti-multiple races bias, i.e., groups in which more than one race was represented, comprised 4.9 percent of hate crime victims.

[se11]

hate crimes

robbing or stomping someone out, ain't a hate crime. painting a swatstika on your door is.

[se11]

You talk about don't blame all whites, well don't act prejudice towards all blacks.

well stop #%@&#%@ robbing our kids bikes and popping off in white neighborhoods. my friend got his bike robbed when he was like 11, and i remember him saying "some #%@&#%@ niggers jumped me for my bike". you telling me that didn't give him an impression on his mind? on everyone's mind, telling everyone "i got robbed by some black kids." how do you think that looks? and when you know some black kids might kill you for a #%@&#%@ bike, you kinda get a certian impression.

Well, tell some white girl not to tell me that they had one black family in her town but they killed the son and ran the parents off. Or tell some white kid not to call me a nigger when I was 7 and wanted to play with his dumb ass toys. I don't want to hear some sensationalist bs, because if you wanna talk about it I got plenty of stories that happened to me or that I heard of whites doin the same punk shit.

honestly, when your were standing somewhere with your friends and you seen a couple of white kids did you go "oh shit, they might stab us for our sneakers or we might have to throw down with them"?

[perongregory]

nope, but when I was in palm springs and i walked into a theater and everyone (who was white and had shaved heads looked at me like I was shit) i thought damn I better get the fuck out of here before the lynch my black ass. I took a road trip all throughout the west and it was funny, white people would always bring up race. I never talked about it, but somehow they would bring it up.

[perongregory]

And white kids only jump you if they have the numbers, my personal experience.

[se11]

And white kids only jump you if they have the numbers, my personal experience.

yeah nobody's ever scared of two white kids because they won't shoot you for a pair of sneakers.

nope, but when I was in palm springs and i walked into a theater and everyone (who was white and had shaved heads looked at me like I was shit) i thought damn I better get the fu-- out of here before the lynch my black ass. I took a road trip all throughout the west and it was funny, white people would always bring up race. I never talked about it, but somehow they would bring it up.

you dont see anything wrong with this whole conversation?

[perongregory]

How many blacks killed whites for a pair of sneakers? How many blacks killed blacks for a pair of Jordans (which I see whites hardly wearing back then, when that sneaker killling shit was off the cahin, and now), a shitload.

There's nothing wrong with the convo. The blacks were black, thats the right garb to be a criminal to you right? The whites had shaved heads and outnumbered me, the right garb and situation to make me know some shit might pop off.

[se11]

no the whole thing, you dont see ANYTHING wrong with it? because i do.

[none for you]

nope, but when I was in palm springs and i walked into a theater and everyone (who was white and had shaved heads looked at me like I was shit) i thought damn I better get the fu-- out of here before the lynch my black ass. I took a road trip all throughout the west and it was funny, white people would always bring up race. I never talked about it, but somehow they would bring it up.

damn.. the same thinghappened to me, except I am white, they were black, and it wasa CHURCH! go figure... I guess they thought some lost and hungry streetwaif was gonna bomb a lower haight church.....

['X']

[none for you]

no the whole thing, you dont see ANYTHING wrong with it? because i do.

here's whatys wrong withthis conversation:

everytime i add to it I am called a nazi because of my nickname.. I could have used any other nickname and they whole skinhead revelation by the blacks on this thread would be null....
everytime you add to it, you are forced into a corv=ner to validate that racism isnt one sided...

the problem is when blacks are racist, they are deny it and call it "reverse descrimination"
when I am racist (in support andfavor of my race) I am accused of being a hater of other races...

I already acted in blind benevolence and got slammed for that... I know one thing for sure.. these guys really hate white people....

I have had my words twisted and picked apart to the point that I seriously doubt they read anything I write at all and for a while now, just look for key words to take out of context....

and they whole thing about peron and his whipped cream trip and personal regard to me.... makes him sound like a rapist.

['X']

[perongregory]

but you consent to it. I always make sure you ask for it.

Anyways, I love everyone. Whites are the best people in the world. Blacks are criminals. And you 88 are a fair and reasonable person.

[se11]

did anyone realize that experinces in our lives, changed the way we looked at the other race, or at least he says he did. two regular people, im not racist, he's not racist, we both experienced things that made us look differently at the other, different races, different sides of the country. nobody else realized that or is at least curious about it?