I Cant Respect Mexicans Who Can't Speak Aztec

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^^^ SO WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT WHERE YOUR BEING HELD DOWN BY OTHER AMERINDIANS WHO ARE MORE POWERFUL THAN YOU ARE AND SOME EUROPEANS COME ALONG BUT YOU DONT KNOW THEY ARE TRYING TO TAKE OVER YOUR LAND

A.SIDE WITH EUROPEANS FOR THEIR DEFEAT
B.SIDE WITH THE GROUP WHO HAS BEEN RULING YOU AND YOUR TRIBE FOR HOW LONG?


OFFTOPIC
MY THING IS IN AMERICA THERE ARE LANDS PUT ASIDE FOR NATIVE AMERICANS IN MEXICO DO THEY HAVE ANY? AND IF SO OR NOT WHY ARE THEY NOT FIGHTING FOR THEIR LAND AS TO WHAT MEXICANS IN THE UNITED STATES ARE CLAIMING THEY WANT THE SW BACK?

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The only accounts we have of the Aztecs sacrificing people come from Cortez...they're not exactly objective. And so waht if you identify with a group of your race they may have oppresed your particular group at one time. The purpose of identifying with that culture is because a whole other race #%@& both of you, and you realize your tribal beef is nicks and dimes compared to the racial beef the real oppressor is bringing.

The Aztecs oppressed the other tribes so hard that they joined up forces with Cortez cause they hated the Aztecs with a passion.

hmm this kind of remind me of a documentary i saw hosted by a mexican woman whom said an indian woman rode along side of cotez to help defeat them why is this not discuss between mexicans or is it?

You are tlking about Malinche i guess. She was serving him as a translator and concubine and is considered the mother of all Mestizos.

I mentioned this in a post a while back, either in this or the other thread

Her name is the root word for "malinchista"

Literally it just means you like "other" cultures and stuff but has a connotation of traitor/backstabber

The Aztecs oppressed the other tribes so hard that they joined up forces with Cortez cause they hated the Aztecs with a passion.[/quote]

I DONT SEE HOW SHE WAS A TRAITOR IF SHE WANTED TO HELP LIBERATE HER TRIBE FROM THE AZTECS

[MiChuhSuh]

^ I know.. and the Spaniards would have been worse had there not been a translator there at the final surrenders...

and some view her as a "mother" while others view her as a "traitor" (from the "Aztec" point of view)

Honestly there's alot of confusion in Mexican history

[Individual]

After the mexican revolucion

why didnt the aztecs/mexicans go back to there ways>>??

they still kept the catholic crosses and language

[MiChuhSuh]

Because for a lot of them, "there ways" included crippling tribute demanded by the Aztecs who forced not only unreasonable amounts of food (which would starve other tribes) but human sacrifices.

Now to keep things neutral for the next step, we'll make the assumption that most people are not very religious, but rather "identify" in some way such as culture or external symbolism with "a" religion

Now which religion would you rather follow, one in which God sacrifices and Jesus atones for humanity and saves? Or one in which you, your mother, your father, your brother/sister, etc. could be sacrificed at any moment and each festival brought new blood offerings?

I know what many are now thinking - well didn't the Spaniards oppress Mexico "with their religion"?

Yes, unquestionably they did.

But once they are out of the picture, it brings a more objective light to the individual religions. How many people here (including me) hated something jsut because someone you didn't like went with it?

And then thought about it after the person is gone and realized it's not as bad as you made it in your mind?

[Rollin_inmy_SixFo]

^Sorry I forgot to respond to that part

But I answered that question about 15 times here

But again, I am 75% North Korean, and 25% South Korean with the slight possibility that my South Korean grandma is part Chinese tracing about 2000-3000 years back since her last name version of "Lee" has "Chinese characteristics" suggested in the form, and is similar to a group of Chinese who came to Korea during the above mentioned time.

My North Korean grandparents strain of North Korean seems to be closer to the original North Koreans which came from Mongolia by bone structure and hormone levels (ya I know that sounds weird but basically I forgot what it was called but it was something my family had.. remnant of the really old "barbarians" in Mongolia, like some sort of hunting instinct thing) and also in Arizona I was confused for a Navajo... who was squinting I suppose lol.

How do I know so much? My family on both sides happened to be really into bookkeeping and records and stuff. I actually have a book of name records which we are supposed to passs down and sign when we have kids and so on.

But that link is broken... my cousins and stuff got stuck in North Korea so they all starved to death... never met most of them and the closest survivors are like 3rd and 4th cousins no one I know has had the opportunity of meeting...

Actually, North Koreans and South Koreans are from the same lineage. You could say 75% north Korean and 25% south Korean but it doesnt make much difference. You might even be Chinese.

Korea: Prehistory

Archaeological evidence shows that humans first inhabited the peninsula 600,000-700,000 years ago.[1] Tool-making artifacts from the Palaeolithic period (700,000 BC to 40,000 BC) have been found in present-day North Hamgyong, South P'yongan, Gyeonggi, and north and south Chungcheong Provinces. The people were cave dwellers and built homes, using fire for cooking food and warmth. They hunted, gathered and fished with stone tools.

Earliest known Korean pottery dates back to around 8000 BC or before, and evidence of Mesolithic Pit-Comb Ware culture or Yungimun Pottery (융기문토기) is found throughout the Peninsula. An example of a Yungimun-era site is the Gosan-ni in Jeju-do. Jeulmun or Comb-pattern Pottery (즐문토기) is found after 7000 BC, and pottery with comb-patterns over the whole vessel is found concentrated at sites in West-central Korea between 3500-2000 BC, called the Jeulmun pottery period. The Korean peninsula around 3000 BC had numerous settlements. Its pottery was similar to pottery in the Russian Maritime Province, in the Amur and Sungari River basins of Manchuria, and in Mongolia.

[Rollin_inmy_SixFo]

:shock:

Now the remaining Aztecs sacrafice chickens instead, or so I last heard.

Now I've seen video of Koreans/Chinese who boil cats and dogs while they're still alive.

[Rollin_inmy_SixFo]

If Mexicans are son ashamed of there Spanish ancestors why dont they drop there Spanish surnames and take on an Aztec name, seriously all this brown pride stuff goes too far, Mexicans should be just as proud of there Spanish roots as they are of there Aztec roots.

What you probably don't understand is that once you are mixed, you aren't considered white. I'm sure that you have some white in you too but people might laugh at you if you claimed to be white. So it's kind of the same with Mexicans.

[Rollin_inmy_SixFo]

After the mexican revolucion

why didnt the aztecs/mexicans go back to there ways>>??

they still kept the catholic crosses and language

There was a huge gap in time from the Cortez's landing in Mexico to the Revolution. Many people had mixed by then. Also, Churches and government had way too much influence. Today, there are many Natives who do hold onto Aztec traditions but most have adapted to change. You have heard of change haven't you? Don't know if you are still lighting fires with rocks? Got a large club maybe?

[Rollin_inmy_SixFo]

^ I know.. and the Spaniards would have been worse had there not been a translator there at the final surrenders...

and some view her as a "mother" while others view her as a "traitor" (from the "Aztec" point of view)

Honestly there's alot of confusion in Mexican history

More Korean history.

Gojoseon (c. 2333 BC? - 108 BC)

Main articles: Gojoseon, Dangun

According to legend, Korea's first kingdom, Gojoseon (고조선, then called Joseon), was founded by Dangun in 2333 BC, in southern Manchuria and northern Korean peninsula. The people of Gojoseon belonged to the Tungusic family and were linguistically affiliated with the Altaic. Around 2000 BC, a new pottery culture is evidenced, with painted designs, in Manchuria and northern Korea. Intensive agriculture and complex societies developed during the Mumun pottery period (c. 1500-300 BC).

Although not widely accepted in Korea, some later Chinese records indicate Gija, a subject of Shang dynasty, introduced Shang cultural influence to Gojoseon around the 10th century BC.

The Bronze Age began around 1500 – 1000 BC in Korea. Bronze daggers, mirrors, and weaponry have been found, as well as evidence of walled-town polities. Rice, red beans, soybeans and millet were cultivated, and rectangular pit-houses and increasingly larger dolmen burial sites are found throughout the peninsula. [2] Contemporaneous records suggest that Gojoseon transitioned from a federation of walled cities into a kingdom sometime between the 7th and 4th centuries BC.

Around this time, a state called Jin arose in the southern part of the Korean peninsula. Very little is known about Jin, except that it was the apparent precursor to the Samhan confederacies. By the third century BC, iron culture was developing and the warring states of China pushed refugees eastward and south.

Gojoseon's King Jun appointed one of these refugees, Wiman, a commander of western territories, but Wiman rebelled and usurped the throne in 194 BC, and King Jun fled south to Jin. Gojoseon under Wiman was sinicized, but not a Chinese colony.

In 109 BC, the Chinese began a massive invasion of Gojoseon near the Liao River. Gojoseon fell after over a year of war, in 108 BC. China then established four commanderies, although three fell to Korean resistance in 82 and 75 BC.
Goguryeo tomb mural
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Goguryeo tomb mural
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Proto-Three Kingdoms of Korea (108 BC - 3rd century)

* Main article: Proto-Three Kingdoms of Korea

After the fall of Gojoseon, Jin in the southern part of the peninsula grew into three loose confederacies (collectively Samhan): Mahan, Jinhan, and Byeonhan.

In the north, Goguryeo was founded around the modern border between China and Korea in 37 BC, claiming to be the successor to a branch of Buyeo. Among the other various small states in former Gojoseon territory were the neighboring Buyeo, Okjeo and Dongye in the northeast of the Korean peninsula and in Manchuria, all of which were later conquered by Goguryeo. The last Chinese commandery, at Lelang, was destroyed by Goguryeo in 313.

Mahan was later absorbed into Baekje, Jinhan was absorbed into Silla, and Byeonhan was succeeded by Gaya, which was in turn fully absorbed into Silla by 562. Because of this continuity, this period is generally considered a part of the Three Kingdoms period.
[edit]

Three Kingdoms (3rd century - 668)

Main article: Three Kingdoms of Korea
Baekje gilt-bronze incense burner
Enlarge
Baekje gilt-bronze incense burner

Goguryeo, Baekje and Silla are called the Three Kingdoms.

Baekje was founded in 18 BC in the southwest of the Korean Peninsula, by the sons of Goguryeo's founder. It began as a member of the Mahan confederacy, but deveoped a strong centralized government based in Seoul. By the fourth century, and at its peak, it had conquered all of Mahan and centrally controlled most of the western Korean peninsula. Culturally, Baekje acquired Chinese civilization through its relationship with the Southern Dynasties in China. It played a fundamental role in transmitting cultural developments, including Chinese characters, Buddhism, iron processing, sword making, compass, etc into ancient Japan. Baekje was conquered by the Silla-Tang forces in 660.

The earliest founded and largest of the three, Goguryeo, reached its zenith in the fifth century, when Emperor Gwanggaeto and his son, Emperor Jangsu expanded into almost all of Manchuria and part of inner Mongolia, and took the Seoul region from Baekje, making Goguryeo one of the great powers in East Asia. Gwanggaeto and Jangsu subdued Baekje and Silla during their times, bringing about a loose unification of Korea. The Goguryeo emperors ruled not only Koreans but also Chinese and other Tungusic tribes in Manchuria and North Korea. Having successfully repelled the Sui and Tang Dynasties, including one of the greatest campaigns in world history do date against Sui Yang Di during the reign of Emperor Yeongyang in 612, the dynasty continued to hold the Chinese from invading the Korean peninsula. After internal power struggles, it was conquered by the allied Silla-Tang forces in 668.

The kingdom Silla began with the unification of six of the chiefdoms of the Jinhan confederacy. It annexed the Gaya confederacy and at various times allied and warred with Baekje and Goguryeo. It became the first kingdom with a queen who ruled on her own right.

Silla artifacts, including unique gold metalwork, shows influence from the northern nomadic steppes, differentiating it from the culture of Goguryeo and Baekje where Chinese influence was more pronounced. Silla expanded rapidly by occupying the Han River basin and annexing the Nakdong River remainder of the Gaya confederacy in 562. Silla deepened its relations with the Tang Dynasty, with her newly-gained access to the Yellow Sea.

In 660, King Munmu of Silla ordered his armies to attack Baekje. General Kim Yu-shin, aided by Tang forces, defeated General Ge-Baek and conquered Baekje. In 661, he moved on Goguryeo but was repelled. King Munmu ordered General Kim to launch another campaign in 667 and, in 668, Goguryeo fell.

[MiChuhSuh]

^Sorry I forgot to respond to that part

But I answered that question about 15 times here

But again, I am 75% North Korean, and 25% South Korean with the slight possibility that my South Korean grandma is part Chinese tracing about 2000-3000 years back since her last name version of "Lee" has "Chinese characteristics" suggested in the form, and is similar to a group of Chinese who came to Korea during the above mentioned time.

My North Korean grandparents strain of North Korean seems to be closer to the original North Koreans which came from Mongolia by bone structure and hormone levels (ya I know that sounds weird but basically I forgot what it was called but it was something my family had.. remnant of the really old "barbarians" in Mongolia, like some sort of hunting instinct thing) and also in Arizona I was confused for a Navajo... who was squinting I suppose lol.

How do I know so much? My family on both sides happened to be really into bookkeeping and records and stuff. I actually have a book of name records which we are supposed to passs down and sign when we have kids and so on.

But that link is broken... my cousins and stuff got stuck in North Korea so they all starved to death... never met most of them and the closest survivors are like 3rd and 4th cousins no one I know has had the opportunity of meeting...

Actually, North Koreans and South Koreans are from the same lineage. You could say 75% north Korean and 25% south Korean but it doesnt make much difference. You might even be Chinese.

Korea: Prehistory

Archaeological evidence shows that humans first inhabited the peninsula 600,000-700,000 years ago.[1] Tool-making artifacts from the Palaeolithic period (700,000 BC to 40,000 BC) have been found in present-day North Hamgyong, South P'yongan, Gyeonggi, and north and south Chungcheong Provinces. The people were cave dwellers and built homes, using fire for cooking food and warmth. They hunted, gathered and fished with stone tools.

Earliest known Korean pottery dates back to around 8000 BC or before, and evidence of Mesolithic Pit-Comb Ware culture or Yungimun Pottery (À¶±â¹®Åä±â) is found throughout the Peninsula. An example of a Yungimun-era site is the Gosan-ni in Jeju-do. Jeulmun or Comb-pattern Pottery (Áñ¹®Åä±â) is found after 7000 BC, and pottery with comb-patterns over the whole vessel is found concentrated at sites in West-central Korea between 3500-2000 BC, called the Jeulmun pottery period. The Korean peninsula around 3000 BC had numerous settlements. Its pottery was similar to pottery in the Russian Maritime Province, in the Amur and Sungari River basins of Manchuria, and in Mongolia.

Ya I know, it's the same lineage

The main reason I saw that is... well...

put it like this - let's say there's a black guy from Jamaica in Houston. Does he say African American or Jamaican American or both or just black?

North and South Korea were only seperated "recently" (in the span of world history) but the effects were drastically different if you look at the two now.

And genetically, they both are the same lineage, yes.

But before Korea was seperated after WWII and the Korean War, each province in Korea was known for something unique.

For example, in America (not really nowadays) but it used to be the South was a whole other world than the North. Southerners not only could have slaves (most had none by numbers) but they generally were either backwater country or Southern aristocrat and had different ideas about fighting, whereas int he North it was industrializing and such.

Even before the official terms of "north" and "south" came to Korea, each of the major provinces were known for it's own unique accent and "style."

I'll update on my two provinces later if I get a chance

[MiChuhSuh]

:shock:

Now the remaining Aztecs sacrafice chickens instead, or so I last heard.

Now I've seen video of Koreans/Chinese who boil cats and dogs while they're still alive.

I know, which is why it's illegal in China and Korea to eat cats or dogs, because the way they are prepared is generally horrifying.

In China they hang cats upside down and beat them with bats to form bruises to "tenderize" the meat, and in Korea they do that with dogs.

But the boiling alive thing is more popular for dogs in Korea, makes a soup.

Sadly not everyone in Korea agreed with this ban because they felt it was the European value system being forced on them, but beating animals like that is universally wrong.

I would be okay with eating cats and dogs without the beating alive/boil alive thing though, that part is just cultural. But honestly it tastes pretty rough and doesn't taste good if cooked without those things, so no one would want to eat it unless it was abused.... which is just wrong.

[MiChuhSuh]

^ I know.. and the Spaniards would have been worse had there not been a translator there at the final surrenders...

and some view her as a "mother" while others view her as a "traitor" (from the "Aztec" point of view)

Honestly there's alot of confusion in Mexican history

More Korean history.

Gojoseon (c. 2333 BC? - 108 BC)

Main articles: Gojoseon, Dangun

According to legend, Korea's first kingdom, Gojoseon (고조선, then called Joseon), was founded by Dangun in 2333 BC, in southern Manchuria and northern Korean peninsula. The people of Gojoseon belonged to the Tungusic family and were linguistically affiliated with the Altaic. Around 2000 BC, a new pottery culture is evidenced, with painted designs, in Manchuria and northern Korea. Intensive agriculture and complex societies developed during the Mumun pottery period (c. 1500-300 BC).

Although not widely accepted in Korea, some later Chinese records indicate Gija, a subject of Shang dynasty, introduced Shang cultural influence to Gojoseon around the 10th century BC.

The Bronze Age began around 1500 – 1000 BC in Korea. Bronze daggers, mirrors, and weaponry have been found, as well as evidence of walled-town polities. Rice, red beans, soybeans and millet were cultivated, and rectangular pit-houses and increasingly larger dolmen burial sites are found throughout the peninsula. [2] Contemporaneous records suggest that Gojoseon transitioned from a federation of walled cities into a kingdom sometime between the 7th and 4th centuries BC.

Around this time, a state called Jin arose in the southern part of the Korean peninsula. Very little is known about Jin, except that it was the apparent precursor to the Samhan confederacies. By the third century BC, iron culture was developing and the warring states of China pushed refugees eastward and south.

Gojoseon's King Jun appointed one of these refugees, Wiman, a commander of western territories, but Wiman rebelled and usurped the throne in 194 BC, and King Jun fled south to Jin. Gojoseon under Wiman was sinicized, but not a Chinese colony.

In 109 BC, the Chinese began a massive invasion of Gojoseon near the Liao River. Gojoseon fell after over a year of war, in 108 BC. China then established four commanderies, although three fell to Korean resistance in 82 and 75 BC.
Goguryeo tomb mural
Enlarge
Goguryeo tomb mural
[edit]

Proto-Three Kingdoms of Korea (108 BC - 3rd century)

* Main article: Proto-Three Kingdoms of Korea

After the fall of Gojoseon, Jin in the southern part of the peninsula grew into three loose confederacies (collectively Samhan): Mahan, Jinhan, and Byeonhan.

In the north, Goguryeo was founded around the modern border between China and Korea in 37 BC, claiming to be the successor to a branch of Buyeo. Among the other various small states in former Gojoseon territory were the neighboring Buyeo, Okjeo and Dongye in the northeast of the Korean peninsula and in Manchuria, all of which were later conquered by Goguryeo. The last Chinese commandery, at Lelang, was destroyed by Goguryeo in 313.

Mahan was later absorbed into Baekje, Jinhan was absorbed into Silla, and Byeonhan was succeeded by Gaya, which was in turn fully absorbed into Silla by 562. Because of this continuity, this period is generally considered a part of the Three Kingdoms period.
[edit]

Three Kingdoms (3rd century - 668)

Main article: Three Kingdoms of Korea
Baekje gilt-bronze incense burner
Enlarge
Baekje gilt-bronze incense burner

Goguryeo, Baekje and Silla are called the Three Kingdoms.

Baekje was founded in 18 BC in the southwest of the Korean Peninsula, by the sons of Goguryeo's founder. It began as a member of the Mahan confederacy, but deveoped a strong centralized government based in Seoul. By the fourth century, and at its peak, it had conquered all of Mahan and centrally controlled most of the western Korean peninsula. Culturally, Baekje acquired Chinese civilization through its relationship with the Southern Dynasties in China. It played a fundamental role in transmitting cultural developments, including Chinese characters, Buddhism, iron processing, sword making, compass, etc into ancient Japan. Baekje was conquered by the Silla-Tang forces in 660.

The earliest founded and largest of the three, Goguryeo, reached its zenith in the fifth century, when Emperor Gwanggaeto and his son, Emperor Jangsu expanded into almost all of Manchuria and part of inner Mongolia, and took the Seoul region from Baekje, making Goguryeo one of the great powers in East Asia. Gwanggaeto and Jangsu subdued Baekje and Silla during their times, bringing about a loose unification of Korea. The Goguryeo emperors ruled not only Koreans but also Chinese and other Tungusic tribes in Manchuria and North Korea. Having successfully repelled the Sui and Tang Dynasties, including one of the greatest campaigns in world history do date against Sui Yang Di during the reign of Emperor Yeongyang in 612, the dynasty continued to hold the Chinese from invading the Korean peninsula. After internal power struggles, it was conquered by the allied Silla-Tang forces in 668.

The kingdom Silla began with the unification of six of the chiefdoms of the Jinhan confederacy. It annexed the Gaya confederacy and at various times allied and warred with Baekje and Goguryeo. It became the first kingdom with a queen who ruled on her own right.

Silla artifacts, including unique gold metalwork, shows influence from the northern nomadic steppes, differentiating it from the culture of Goguryeo and Baekje where Chinese influence was more pronounced. Silla expanded rapidly by occupying the Han River basin and annexing the Nakdong River remainder of the Gaya confederacy in 562. Silla deepened its relations with the Tang Dynasty, with her newly-gained access to the Yellow Sea.

In 660, King Munmu of Silla ordered his armies to attack Baekje. General Kim Yu-shin, aided by Tang forces, defeated General Ge-Baek and conquered Baekje. In 661, he moved on Goguryeo but was repelled. King Munmu ordered General Kim to launch another campaign in 667 and, in 668, Goguryeo fell.

Ya, which is why I said on my mom mom's side I might be part Chinese, read my poast carefully please

But nice to see that this discussion is bringing an interest n Korean history.

[Old Shatterhand]

After the mexican revolucion

why didnt the aztecs/mexicans go back to there ways>>??

they still kept the catholic crosses and language

There was a huge gap in time from the Cortez's landing in Mexico to the Revolution. Many people had mixed by then. Also, Churches and government had way too much influence. Today, there are many Natives who do hold onto Aztec traditions but most have adapted to change. You have heard of change haven't you? Don't know if you are still lighting fires with rocks? Got a large club maybe?

There are many reasons including how the Roman Catholic church integrated traditional paganism with Roman Catholicism thus effectively nullifying the former. To truly understand this history one would need to reach all the way back to Babylon.

Another place to start that discussion might be with Gerard Dufour who reminds us in his La Inquisicion Espanola, that the first article of the Spanish Constitution proclaimed that "the Roman Catholic Apostolic religion, in Spain and in all the Spanish possessions, will be the religion of the King and of the nation and no other one shall be permitted." And so it became in Latin America.

The descendants of Aztecs, Incas, and Mayas have not forgotten that Roman Catholic priests, backed by the secular sword, gave their ancestors the choice of conversion (which often meant slavery) or death. They made such an outcry when John Paul II proposed elevating Junipero Serra (a major eighteenth-century enforcer of Catholicism among the Indians) to sainthood that the pope was forced to hold the ceremony in secret.

[never die inside]

its sad... it doesn't seem right to not speak aztec instead of speaking spanish. i can't respect that...

Let me guess, you respect cowards who post anonymous messages on the internet?

nah. ur right... I don't.

after i wrote it, i didn't know how to respond cus I learned a lot and I can't change my ID name. never knew there was still mexicans that speak their native language...

[MiChuhSuh]

actually you can. On the top-center, there is a "Profile" link. click that and you can find where you change your ID.

[never die inside]

oh damm... it changed back? wasn't like that when i made first made this thread... thanks man.

[MARTINEZ]

I've been throughout the chiapas state in mexico and the mexicans are not white as chalk. They are mestizo leaning more towards native. I think you've seen too many LA chicanos.

Your on the money perongregory,

In most cases, the further south of Mexico you go, the darker the skin.

All the southern states of Mexico have dark skin Raza. (example: Michoacan, Guerrero, Chiapas, Quintana Roo, etc etc)

You also have Mexican states that have mostly "Hueros" like Sinaloa, Sonora, and part of Jalisco --> Mexicanas with green eyes and they are gorgeous !!!

But I love all my Mexican women, morenos and hueras.....

It's alllllll good....

[perongregory]

I've been throughout the chiapas state in mexico and the mexicans are not white as chalk. They are mestizo leaning more towards native. I think you've seen too many LA chicanos.

Your on the money perongregory,

In most cases, the further south of Mexico you go, the darker the skin.

All the southern states of Mexico have dark skin Raza. (example: Michoacan, Guerrero, Chiapas, Quintana Roo, etc etc)

You also have Mexican states that have mostly "Hueros" like Sinaloa, Sonora, and part of Jalisco --> Mexicanas with green eyes and they are gorgeous !!!

But I love all my Mexican women, morenos and hueras.....

It's alllllll good....

Good shit. People need to get educated.

[NICKELS]

in newyork we got the nativos mexicans..........not the near white ones like del a hoya.

whats the difference with the noretenos and sorenos in looks ?? wich ones are more nativo AZTECS in looks.

[Brown Street]

ALL MEXICANS AINT AZTECS!!

[WIP]

In the midwest its crazy. Ive met hella mexicans who cant even speak spanish.

[TeeKay]

Foreal?

[Chi Town reppin]

Come on Mex. Yall blood line been washed down and dilluted so much with the REAL SPAINISH PEOPLE {whites/ Europeans lol} that you sound stupid. Ur more white than Aztec any day stupid

[MARTINEZ]

Come on Mex. Yall blood line been washed down and dilluted so much with the REAL SPAINISH PEOPLE {whites/ Europeans lol} that you sound stupid. Ur more white than Aztec any day stupid

SHUT THE FUC-K UP BIT-CH

Start some chi Town topics of your own and stay the FUC-K off the L.A. Stuff

Go play with your mid-west buddies

[Chi Town reppin]

SHUT THE FUC-K UP BIT-CH

Start some chi Town topics of your own and stay the FUC-K off the L.A. Stuff

Go play with your mid-west buddies

What you ashamed to be white lol Look at cha skin it dont lie. You should be as proud of your European Heritage as ur are CLAIMING Aztec heritage

[MARTINEZ]

SHUT THE FUC-K UP BIT-CH

Start some chi Town topics of your own and stay the FUC-K off the L.A. Stuff

Go play with your mid-west buddies

What you ashamed to be white lol Look at cha skin it dont lie. You should be as proud of your European Heritage as ur are CLAIMING Aztec heritage

Listen you silly ass moron!!

I bet my left nut that 100% African .... So the same can be said for your

BI-TCH ASS !!!

FU-CK YOU.

[MARTINEZ]

SHUT THE FUC-K UP BIT-CH

Start some chi Town topics of your own and stay the FUC-K off the L.A. Stuff

Go play with your mid-west buddies

What you ashamed to be white lol Look at cha skin it dont lie. You should be as proud of your European Heritage as ur are CLAIMING Aztec heritage

Listen you silly ass moron!!

I bet my left nut that you are NOT 100% African .... So the same can be said for your

BI-TCH ASS !!!

FU-CK YOU.