


cheers05 wrote:sa as n phillipines? why dun u consider urself asian, ur malay, rite?
are u sayin that samoans are closer genetically or by lookz? tis also not juz samoans but polynesians in general. lik i said, if u talkin bout looks, do those ppl in dem pics look more asian than afro? dey look polynesian to me, but of the two, which look closer?
polys are just a mix of malays n melanesians, more so melanesians due to the fact of the migration and the looks obviously.


cheers05 wrote:NICKLES,
xactly what I am sayin. most ppl neva seen real polys befo, just mixes like me. i got a ton of pure ppl in my family
afakasi,
you samoan too? TALOFA how you say that moaris, cook, and hawaiians trace back to taiwan? all polynesians came from you guys n the tongans. samoans share the same taiwan mtdna I tink. last time i read the study show that it is no longer taiwan but indonesia. also dose pics are of native hawaiians, dey no look asian to me but more blacks. i got hawaiian family too, and dey look blacks as hell
samoa tonga, etc. just not mixed as much by dem foreigners like hawaii, tahiti, etc.
surprise me how you say we related more to dem asians when we don't even look like it.

afakasi wrote:where are you from? im half sa, but i dont consider myself asian, samoans arent apart of the asian continent but they are closely related to asians than africans



bsavanh wrote:afakasi wrote:where are you from? im half sa, but i dont consider myself asian, samoans arent apart of the asian continent but they are closely related to asians than africans
HA! HA! you don't know anything thing about your people and need to hit some real books to discover what you really are and from. polynesians are a makeup of two people malay and the native melanesians who are black/negrito. the polynesians speak a language distantly related to malay: filipino's, indonesians, and many tribes still found in taiwan. they are classified in the austronesian branch along with the malay speaking people. your ancestors once dwelled in southern china before migrating and conquering the oceanic islands. your people are still found in taiwan and they are the natives. realistically speaking, you guys can claim to be either asian or negrito but it clearly shows that you guys are more malay/austronesian in culture and language... check out these links and let'em refresh your mind. learn your true roots and dont forgot your true asian ancestors...
http://language.psy.auckland.ac.nz/
http://www.nvtc.gov/lotw/months/june/au ... amily.html
http://www.samoa.co.uk/austronesian_languages.html
look up taiwan native tribes and you will see somewhat how your ancestors looked before they mixed with the negritos, i think that they look pretty mongoloid in race? it it believed that austronesians and thai speaking people makeup a greater austro-tai family.
afakasi wrote:Yo Talofa Uso,There was a documentary that aired back in NZ last year that traced the origins of raros,hawaiians and maoris all back to the island of taiwan,before taiwain was occupied by chinese its native people were seen to be mircronesian an all
BIG DUSTY LOCO wrote:Good to see everyone is trying to do research and find out where they came from...
Stuff I've read, said the Malays from ancient times paddled they ass in boats to the many different islands...Samoa, Tonga, Tahiti, Phillippines,etc...and throughout hundreds of years had constant boat traffic.
Other stuff say that Samoa originated before Tonga...so it's all over the place.
You just gotta read it all and decipher what's being said.
And to cheers point on my pinoy people claiming that hawaiian shit...LOL...I agree with you dude, my people should be claiming nothing but filipino. We are not anything else, doesn't matter where we live or grew up.
look up taiwan native tribes and you will see somewhat how your ancestors looked before they mixed with the negritos, i think that they look pretty mongoloid in race? it it believed that austronesians and thai speaking people makeup a greater austro-tai family.
ust because they share a common proto-malay/austronesian ancestor, language and culture(tattooing...) does not mean that they are all the same people now because they split from eachothers thousands of years ago, one staying on land and the other polarized and evolved seperately. but there is no doubt that poly's have asian affinity genetically and that is not due to recent mixing with asians. provided are a couple links of mainland taiwan natives.
http://www.panasia.net/photo/taiwan/hua ... e=twhl0059
afakasi wrote:well if their ancestory comes come malay it still means their of asian relation
The Taiwaniese tribes which formerly occupied the island are where Cook islanders,maoris and Hawaiians trace their ancestory back to their, there are still people there who are decedants of these old tribe people but have mostly chinese blood but still carry on some old traditions and have the same old tatoos which are simliar to maori design

afakasi wrote:bsavanh wrote:afakasi wrote:where are you from? im half sa, but i dont consider myself asian, samoans arent apart of the asian continent but they are closely related to asians than africans
The Taiwaniese tribes which formerly occupied the island are where Cook islanders,maoris and Hawaiians trace their ancestory back to their, there are still people there who are decedants of these old tribe people but have mostly chinese blood but still carry on some old traditions and have the same old tatoos which are simliar to maori design


bsavanh wrote:like i have said earlier, just because they once shared a common origin and ancestor thousands of years ago does not mean that they are the same now, poly's have evovled culturally and physically different and so have malay's and others that shared a common ancestor.
i never quite understood why filipino's were so lost racially? they go from im not asian to im pacific islander to were're latino? i see no unity and the people are lost in pride. they seem to suffer from the "being conquered syndrome". why is the phillipines still named after a people that raped killed and enslaved the malay people? that's not very nationalistic right? it starts at the grass root in their homes, parents feeling that their language and culture is inferior and raise the kids to only speak english and such. the language will be lost in a couple hundred years if this persist and the country will weaken internally because there is no national unity like you see in vietnam, china, thailand...this makes it very easy for other foreign powers with their conquering agenda to enslave the filipinos. divide and conquer.


cheers05 wrote:NICKLES,
xactly what I am sayin. most ppl neva seen real polys befo, just mixes like me. i got a ton of pure ppl in my family
afakasi,
you samoan too? TALOFA how you say that moaris, cook, and hawaiians trace back to taiwan? all polynesians came from you guys n the tongans. samoans share the same taiwan mtdna I tink. last time i read the study show that it is no longer taiwan but indonesia. also dose pics are of native hawaiians, dey no look asian to me but more blacks. i got hawaiian family too, and dey look blacks as hell
samoa tonga, etc. just not mixed as much by dem foreigners like hawaii, tahiti, etc.
surprise me how you say we related more to dem asians when we don't even look like it.


Trey wrote:I took an anthropology class and Polynesians are closer to Malay genetics than African. I know everything in school shouldn't be believed as 100% truth but that's what I've learned so far plus I saw many documentaries that said Malays migrated from mainland Malaysia to the islands of Indonesia and Philippines all the way to Oceania.
NICKELS wrote:YO CHEERS .......MAJORITY OF SAMOANS & TONGANS , MAORI AND FIJI ISLANDS... IVE SEEN LOOK LIKE MIXED BLACK PEOPLE !! THAT ARE MIXED WITH ASIANS ........THE THICKNESS MUSCULARITY & AND WOOLY TO CURLY HAIR COMES FROM THE AFRO- ASIATIC BLOOD AND THE ASIAN FEATURES ARE OBVIOUS....EVEN THE FULL LIPS AND FULL NOSES ARE OF AFRICAN OR NEGRITO BLOOD....CHECK ALL THE ORIGINAL PHOTOS ..BEFORE OTHER RACES STARTED TO MIX THERE FEATURES OF TODAY REMEMBER " YOUR EYES WILL NOT LIE TO YOU !!LIKE A BOOK WRITTEN BY A PERSON WHOS NOT POLYNESIAN.
CHEERS THOSE WERE GREAT PICTURES ................
ALL THOSE WHO TAKE ANTHROPOLOGY STUDY ......THE AFRICAN PYGMY OR NEGRITOS .......YOU WILL FIND THEM ALL OVER THE WORLD IN WEIRD PLACES ...THERE BONES ARE EVERY WHERE ...ALL OF SOUTH ASIA THE ISLANDS PHILIPINES ,AND ESPECIALLY AFRICA THEY HAVE A WORLDS RECORD ALONG WITH THE BUSHMAN OF HAVING ( 17) DIFFERENT GENETIC TRAITS DOCUMENTED ........MOST HUMANS HAVE (3)....YOU WILL FIND POLYNESIAN HISTORIANS AND ANTHROPOLOGIST WOULD BE THE BEST ON THIS SUBJECT REFERING TO WHAT THERE MIXTURE IS ......CHECK OUT ABORIGINE AND TAZMANIAN HISTORY ALSO FROM THERE SCHOLARS........" SOME "EUROPEANS SEEM TO ALWAYS CHANGE THE TRUE OR ORIGINAL NAME OF A PLACE , COUNTRY , LANGUAGE OF A PEOPLE OR EDIT HISTORY OF OTHER PEOPLE ...SO ITS BEST TO LEARN FROM YOUR ELDERS. I STUDY FROM BLACK / AFRICAN SCHOLARS WHEN IT COMES TO AFRICAN HISTORY....NEVER BELIVE IN ONE RACE OF PEOPLE TELLING THE HISTORY FOR EVERY OTHER RACE IN THE WORLD ...THROUGH THERE EYES OR OPINION OR BEING TAUGHT YOUR HISTORY FROM THERE UNIVERSITY OR COLLEGES.........IS LOP SIDED AND PURE BULLSH-T...ALL RACES SHOULD COME TOGETHER AS A HISTORICAL TEAM TO CONTIBUTE INPUT ABOUT THERE PEOPLE IN ONE BOOK....



cheers05 wrote:http://www.samoa.co.uk/images/samoan-maidens.jpg
#%@& that shiite i see a white skinned polynesian for sure that #%@& is mixed Peace out homies >o


NICKELS wrote:MELANESIANS AND AUSTRONESIANS AND NEGRITOS ARE THE " BLACK " CONNECTION TO POLYNESIANS OTHER THAN THERE ASIAN ANCESTRY........THATS WHY BLACKS FEEL RELATED TO THEM AND THEY TO US ...IN OTHER WORDS COUSINS LONG LOST FAIMLY.




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