Mexicans vs Puerto Ricans in Los Angeles?

These concepts are socially constructed and have been given much weight. What are your thoughts?

Postby looneytunes1 » October 27th, 2006, 8:27 am

Theirs Boricuas in California? :shock:

Well I dont know about LA but here in Florida Mexicans and Puerto Ricans dont get along all of the time. Nothing serious. Yeah I remember when I was in school and the De La Hoya vs. Trinidad fight was about to happen you had Mexicans and Boricuas bringing flags to school and all of that, then you even had the blacks saying "doesnt matter who wins, cause Roy Jones Jr would smash both of them" lol.

I know a lot of Puerto Ricans make fun of how Mexicans dress, talk, look and shit like that...but I'm sure Mexicans do the same to and vice versa, but when It boils down to it...its not a real serious thing (least not in florida, cant speak on Cali), cause I know a lot of Boricuas that got love for Mexico.
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Postby BxxMILITIA » October 27th, 2006, 8:39 am

lol, thats funny, black people stay shuttin' nigga down :lol: ...thats just funny n i aint even black.....
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Postby NICKELS » October 27th, 2006, 10:33 pm

Dr. Gonzo wrote:LOL

Mexicans vs Ricans in LA?

There is a bigger hatred between Central Americans and Mexicans in LA. All the ricans I know end up marrying Mexicans because their ain't too many ricans here.


very true my puertorican co - worker is on his second marriage with a MEXICAN WOMAN and he has 3 kids .....and he looks like a mexican when he does not cut his hair. ....lol i never heard of that beef.
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Postby NICKELS » October 27th, 2006, 10:37 pm

VERY TRUE THERE ARE PUERTORICANS THATS PART OF SURENO 13 MEXICAN SETS IN L.A.....BECAUSE IN NEWYORK YOU WILL START TO FIND PUERTORICANS & MEXICANS RUNNIN TOGETHER IN QUEENS AND STATEN ISLAND & BRONX.....YEP ITS HAPPENING
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Postby NICKELS » October 27th, 2006, 10:39 pm

hamo_uce wrote:IS RICKY MARTIN TAINO or SPANISH PR ? :lol: :lol:


ricky martin is a white latino .......i dont see anything nativo about him , mexicans south americans and peruviansare & look very( indios nativo )
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Postby NICKELS » October 27th, 2006, 10:47 pm

100 wrote:YALL CATS IZ CAZY THERES LESS THAN 8,00 TAINOS IN PR

ABOUT 400,000 BLACKS OVER A MILLION WHITES AND THE MIXED MULLATO POPULATION O PR

EVERY PR DOES NOT HAVE AFRICAN IN THEM NOR TAINO SOME ARE JUST SPANISH EVERY JEARD F THE MIGRATIONS THAT TOOK PLACE?

THERES QUITE A FEW WHITE JEWS THERE TOO.

EVERY ONE IN PR IS " NOT THE SAME AND DONT HAVE THE SAME RACIAL ANCESTRY " BUT THE ISLAND ITSELF SHARES THAT MIXTURE OF CULTURE.



>>>>>>>>>>>>>

VERY TRUE .......CAUSE TEGO CALDERON & ROBERTO CLEMENTE > DONT RACIALLY HAVE NOTHING IN COMMOM WITH > RICKY MARTIN OR MARC ANTHONY OR JENNIFER LOPEZ

WHITE LATINO
NATIVO LATINO
AFRO - LATINO
ASIAN LATINO

DONT PUT EVERYBODY IN THE SAME POT THEY ONLY SHARE A LANGUAGE
AND CULTURE. NOT THE SAME BLOOD
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Postby NICKELS » October 27th, 2006, 10:55 pm

the last names : PEREZ & LOPEZ are names of jewish descent there were a whole lot of jews in spain before they left to conquere the islands. there are other names that were converted to spanish wich were originally italian and even irish. do the research.... ive seen & went to school with & worked with white puretoricans & mixed puertoricans who sometimes didnt even know they standing next to a black puertorican until he spoke in spanish to let him know he was from PR .
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Postby TeeKay » October 27th, 2006, 11:08 pm

NICKELS wrote:VERY TRUE THERE ARE PUERTORICANS THATS PART OF SURENO 13 MEXICAN SETS IN L.A.....BECAUSE IN NEWYORK YOU WILL START TO FIND PUERTORICANS & MEXICANS RUNNIN TOGETHER IN QUEENS AND STATEN ISLAND & BRONX.....YEP ITS HAPPENING


Most puerto ricans i talk to from the east coast, the majority of them look at mexicans as dirty and easy targets for jacking, like in spanish harlem, ricans would target the new mexicans coming into the hood, There is a "very small" number of ricans running around bein sur's in cali, i remember there was a puerto rican gang in hollywood called the King Cobras but they got absorbed by the 18st,
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Postby NICKELS » October 27th, 2006, 11:17 pm

THESE PEOPLE HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON..... NOTHINGGG !!!!! EXCEPT BEING A MINORITY.

WESLEY SNIPES &... RICKY MARTIN
BERNIE MAC &.... BIG PUN
WHOOPIE GOLDBERG &... JENNIFER LOPEZ
TUPAC & ....FAT JOE
FLAVOR FLAV & ....MARC ANTHONY
MIKE TYSON &.... HECTOR CAMACHO
EDDIE MURPHY &.....RICKY RICARDO
ALLEN IVERSON &.....TITO PUENTE

BLACKS ARE RELATED TO AFRO - LATINOS :

CELIA CRUZ
TEGO CALDERON
ROBERTO CLEMENTE
SAMMY SOSA
TITO TRINDAD
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Postby NICKELS » October 27th, 2006, 11:21 pm

those mexicans there bothering are the small little dudes that sell oranges and batteries on the trains and deliver foo, there not like the ones in cali that are taller and more rough ...in newyork they got the more smaller INDIOS , nativos . and there quite they dont bother anybody there easy vicks. so bothering them is a coward move cause there supporting there family ..they dont make much in newyork. whats the terms for different types of mexicans cause the ones in NYC dont resemble the one in CALI ..is that the same difference with norteno and sureno mexicans ???
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Postby NICKELS » October 27th, 2006, 11:32 pm

>PUERTORICANS vs DOMINICANS < ....WAS A BIG PROBLEM ON THE EAST.

AND DOMINICANS ARE ( BLACK OR MIXED BLACK ) ...AND I KNOW SOME WHITE DOMINICANS VERY FEW BUT I KNOW SOME.
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Postby TeeKay » October 27th, 2006, 11:59 pm

Miami saw a lot of

Cubans VS Hatians
Ricans VS cubans
dominicans vs Ricans
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Postby NICKELS » October 28th, 2006, 12:11 am

REMEMBER WHEN HATIANS AND DOMINICANS DIDNT GET ALONG AND THEY SHARE AN ISLAND TOGETHER.
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Postby ManifestTruth » October 28th, 2006, 2:23 pm

"REMEMBER WHEN HATIANS AND DOMINICANS DIDNT GET ALONG AND THEY SHARE AN ISLAND TOGETHER."

Yup, and the Hutus and Tutsi detest one another and their share a country(Rwanda).
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Postby TeeKay » October 28th, 2006, 3:54 pm

NICKELS wrote:REMEMBER WHEN HATIANS AND DOMINICANS DIDNT GET ALONG AND THEY SHARE AN ISLAND TOGETHER.


About 1 million Haitians cross the border into dominican rep to work for the day.
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Postby BxxMILITIA » October 28th, 2006, 4:25 pm

^^^thats very true, im dominican myself n theres MAD haitians in DR....we all live on the same island, exept its seperated, theres the DOMINICAN REPUBLIC on one side n HAITI on the other...n we did have a war over the bigger part of the island WAY back n the days, n the dominicans whooped the haitians out, no bullshitin, thats why we got the bigger half, but regardless theres mad hatians in DR.....
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Postby BxxMILITIA » October 28th, 2006, 4:28 pm

and dominicans vs. puerto ricans had been goin around for a minute, but nowadays, both nationalities dont fight as much, nowadays, they stick 2gether more which is a good thing, i never really got the fighting between us, we jus killin the hispanic race like that, they probably realizing that lil' by little, im glad were a little more unified tho....
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Postby perongregory » October 28th, 2006, 5:21 pm

BxxMILITIA wrote:^^^thats very true, im dominican myself n theres MAD haitians in DR....we all live on the same island, exept its seperated, theres the DOMINICAN REPUBLIC on one side n HAITI on the other...n we did have a war over the bigger part of the island WAY back n the days, n the dominicans whooped the haitians out, no bullshitin, thats why we got the bigger half, but regardless theres mad hatians in DR.....


A lot of that was on some racist shit you know? I had a dominican and hatian friend they was always fighting over that BS.
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Postby BxxMILITIA » October 28th, 2006, 5:23 pm

no it wasnt, n if it was, it wus commin from both sides, it wasnt just one racist source, if anything, it was a race war, n one side dominated...
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Postby perongregory » October 28th, 2006, 5:27 pm

I said it was on some racist shit, and it was. I can bring up sources on that shit, but I dont feel like doing that shit. Rafael Trujillo was a racist as muthafucka who hated himself his parents were bi-racial. I'm not talkin bad on Dominicans but those fools hated the black side of them like blacks or people with black in them do everywhere, when corrupted with white racial superiority.
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Postby Cold Bear » October 28th, 2006, 5:37 pm

That wasn't a war that was a genocide. Trujillo was influenced by Hitler's ideas and went to 'cleansing' the DR of darker skinned people, almost all haitians. The way he weeded out Haitians in the DR was asking people to say Parsley, since Dominicans say it different from Haitians, and then killing them. One of my dominican homeboys even admits that shit was 100 percent racist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Le% ... s_Trujillo
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The Parsley Massacre
In pursuing blanquismo, he ordered Dominican troops to massacre 20,000 dark-skinned Haitian sugar cane workers in 1937, an action that he claimed was a sovereign response to the Haitian government's support of exiled Dominicans who were working to overthrow him. The US demanded that Trujillo pay reparations, which Trujillo bargained down to $500,000. The Haitian workers were identified as immigrants, and then murdered by the truckload, if they could not pronounce the letter r in "perejil" the Spanish word for parsley. This action firmly established the Haitian-Dominican border at Río Massacre, or Massacre River (a river that was in fact named after the slaughter of French Pirates in the 17th century). He then settled the border region with Haiti, relocating Dominican families to new agricultural developments there.

US Poet Laureate Rita Dove wrote of the massacre in her poem, Parsley:

There is a parrot imitating Spring
in the palae, its feathers parsley green.
Out of the swamp the cane appears ...


El General has found his word: perejil.
Who says it, lives. He laughs, teeth appearing
out of the swamp. The cane appears


in our dreams, lashed by wind and streaming.
And we lie down. For every drop of blood
there is a parrot imitating spring.
Out of the swamp the cane appears.
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Postby perongregory » October 28th, 2006, 5:38 pm

thank you Cold Bear for droppin some knowledge.
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Postby BxxMILITIA » October 28th, 2006, 5:59 pm

UM, WE GOTTA GO A LIL FURTHER BAQ THEN THAT FELLAS, WERE TALKIN ATLEAST OVER 150 YRS AGO....WHEN THEY WERE FIGHTING OVER the ISLAND, AROUND 1844, THAT SHIT IS IRRELIVENT...WAY BEFORE TRUJILLO, HE WASNT EVEN BORN IN THEM TIMES...IT WAS HAITI AS A WHOLE VS DR AS A WHOLE,NOT HAITIANS THAT WERE ALREADY IN DR MAKING A LIVING....EVEN DOMINICANS THEMSELVES HATED TRUJILLO...THEY WERENT FIGHTING OVER RACE, THEY WERE FIGHTIN OVER LAND...1844, NOT 1937....
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Postby perongregory » October 28th, 2006, 6:10 pm

that shit led to Trujillos racist shit, read his personal shit he cites DR's fight for independence as a reason to kill and supress the Hatians. Not like all Dominicans were like that, just them self-hating, or white racist muthafuckas. THey might all be latino regardless of race, but there still racism in that shit.
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Postby TeeKay » October 28th, 2006, 7:34 pm

Haitians had invaded DR twice long ago and even controlled it for 20years, at the time Haiti was seen as the more "richer side" of the island with its resources and man power, DR was willing to let the spanish rule them for another few years which they did when they offered but spain lost interest in there and saw them as a liability since their country had gone through a small recession, one of the reasons why DR flourished more is that one idea is Dominicans were more offering to anyone on the outside, they wanted people with skills to come there, they wanted trade, whilst Haiti was a place run by ex slaves who were hostile to outsiders.
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Postby NICKELS » October 29th, 2006, 4:45 pm

WHAT ABOUT BLACK DOMINICANS do they go through racisim from other domincans the mixed one & white ones ??
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Postby carltouss619 » October 29th, 2006, 10:24 pm

NICKELS wrote:WHAT ABOUT BLACK DOMINICANS do they go through racisim from other domincans the mixed one & white ones ??

yes they certainly do
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Postby TeeKay » October 30th, 2006, 12:30 am

NICKELS wrote:WHAT ABOUT BLACK DOMINICANS do they go through racisim from other domincans the mixed one & white ones ??


Ive met black fominicans who dont put themselves down as black, there are plenty of them that will be quick to say they arent god knows why,
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Postby FLUID » October 30th, 2006, 1:12 am

I was suprised to see that both the Puerto Rican & Cuban population was bigger than the Samoan population in LA.
If it's 15,000 PRs in LA, then I'm shocked that it ain't a couple PR gangs there. PRs in Chicago be bangin hard.
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Postby Manso » October 30th, 2006, 2:15 pm

Cold Bear wrote:That wasn't a war that was a genocide. Trujillo was influenced by Hitler's ideas and went to 'cleansing' the DR of darker skinned people, almost all haitians. The way he weeded out Haitians in the DR was asking people to say Parsley, since Dominicans say it different from Haitians, and then killing them. One of my dominican homeboys even admits that shit was 100 percent racist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Le% ... s_Trujillo
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The Parsley Massacre
In pursuing blanquismo, he ordered Dominican troops to massacre 20,000 dark-skinned Haitian sugar cane workers in 1937, an action that he claimed was a sovereign response to the Haitian government's support of exiled Dominicans who were working to overthrow him. The US demanded that Trujillo pay reparations, which Trujillo bargained down to $500,000. The Haitian workers were identified as immigrants, and then murdered by the truckload, if they could not pronounce the letter r in "perejil" the Spanish word for parsley. This action firmly established the Haitian-Dominican border at Río Massacre, or Massacre River (a river that was in fact named after the slaughter of French Pirates in the 17th century). He then settled the border region with Haiti, relocating Dominican families to new agricultural developments there.

US Poet Laureate Rita Dove wrote of the massacre in her poem, Parsley:

There is a parrot imitating Spring
in the palae, its feathers parsley green.
Out of the swamp the cane appears ...


El General has found his word: perejil.
Who says it, lives. He laughs, teeth appearing
out of the swamp. The cane appears


in our dreams, lashed by wind and streaming.
And we lie down. For every drop of blood
there is a parrot imitating spring.
Out of the swamp the cane appears.

jajaja diga peregil
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Postby NICKELS » October 30th, 2006, 8:24 pm

IF puertoricans started a gang in cali ....the mexicans and the blacks would bang them out of existance. but most likely they would just merge with the ese's and fall in rank ...low rank. cause the ese's would never let the netas & latin kings become a threat or even make noise out in cali unless they join the 13
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Postby TeeKay » October 31st, 2006, 1:06 am

NICKELS wrote:IF puertoricans started a gang in cali ....the mexicans and the blacks would bang them out of existance. but most likely they would just merge with the ese's and fall in rank ...low rank. cause the ese's would never let the netas & latin kings become a threat or even make noise out in cali unless they join the 13


As i said ricans did have a gang called "King cobras" around hollywood but they were absorbed by 18st
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