Mexicans vs Puerto Ricans in Los Angeles?

These concepts are socially constructed and have been given much weight. What are your thoughts?

Postby BxxMILITIA » October 31st, 2006, 8:58 am

Ive met black fominicans who dont put themselves down as black, there are plenty of them that will be quick to say they arent god knows why,



thats because we ARE NOT BLACK...were hispanic, we have many many dark skinned people but we r not black....we r hispanic, we speak spanish, eat rice n beans n listen 2 merengue, salsa n bachata...we r hispanic ladies and gentlemen, some of us r black as night some r as white as snow, some r tall, some r small....we have pride in being hispanic...thats like a light skinned black man being labeled as hispanic...u think he's gonna agree???? hell no he's not...n god doesent kno why, U dont kno why....so i just layed it down for u my friends....we have latino/hispanic pride, we cant jus automatically label ourselves as black, we have history and genretations of speaking spanish and being hispanic....we do have alot of african ties tho....


WHAT ABOUT BLACK DOMINICANS do they go through racisim from other domincans the mixed one & white ones ??


man they dont go thru no racism from each other...my mother is light skinned, my father is dark skinned, i kno a shitload of couples that have a dark skinned partner n a light skinned one...how r we gonna degrade our brothers, our people, just because of they skin color???we would never be racist against each other cause EVERY dominican(unless they retarded) kno that we have alot of dark skinned dominicans and a majority of mestizo dominicans....i seen dominican gangs with both dark n light skinned brothers....so i dont really think thats an issue between us......
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Postby Manso » October 31st, 2006, 9:56 am

^^ I was gonna say the same vaina compai....
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Postby perongregory » October 31st, 2006, 3:58 pm

Your hispanic but your black, or white, or asian. Whats so hard to figure out about that? White people came to the island, Africans were brought to the island a lot of fucking went on, some didn't mix really and retained mostly one race, but you all took on Spanish culture (language and shit) so just cause you took on Spanish culture all of a sudden all the indio and black blood goes out the window? Doesn't work like that. I guess if blacks came and conquered an island and forced the nativesto take on black culture i guess those natives would be black then even if they were white as snow. I guess hte blacks in Lousiana that still have ties to the French that were there and speak that fucked up French and other French culture are not black, but French. What you saying dont make sense. So what if you eat rice and beans and speak Spanish, it dont make you a race, it just shows what culture you're apart of, not your racial makeup.
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Postby BxxMILITIA » October 31st, 2006, 8:51 pm

homey, dont try 2 skool me on my shit, if theres a black man thats real light skinned, wut is he, hispanic?????WE r not black maybe our skin color is(in some peoples cases) but we, the country, r not black...its all gravy tho, thats why god made opinions, u stick 2 yours n ill stick 2 mine....
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Postby perongregory » October 31st, 2006, 10:03 pm

BxxMILITIA wrote:homey, dont try 2 skool me on my shit, if theres a black man thats real light skinned, wut is he, hispanic?????WE r not black maybe our skin color is(in some peoples cases) but we, the country, r not black...its all gravy tho, thats why god made opinions, u stick 2 yours n ill stick 2 mine....


Nigga who siad the country was black? im talkin about different latino people...you tryna say a culture is a race which it isnt. Like a Chinese nigga tellin me oh im not Asian, shit I aint even Chinese I'm Manchurian cause we eat this certain kinda food, and speak this dialect of cantonese, mandarin whatever they speak. For that fact I aint black anymore, im an LA nigga.
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Postby BxxMILITIA » October 31st, 2006, 10:06 pm

Nigga who siad the country was black? im talkin about different latino people...you tryna say a culture is a race which it isnt


u kno damn well u aint heard that shit come out my mouth, be specific, dont thro words in my mouth....as i said before, thats ur opinion n i have my own opinion....
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Postby perongregory » October 31st, 2006, 10:11 pm

BxxMILITIA wrote:
Nigga who siad the country was black? im talkin about different latino people...you tryna say a culture is a race which it isnt


u kno damn well u aint heard that shit come out my mouth, be specific, dont thro words in my mouth....as i said before, thats ur opinion n i have my own opinion....


homie Im peicein together what you sayin. now you said the country aint black but I didn't say it was black. Before I said there is a mixture of people there, and a lot of mixed people there. You said yall are latino, which is true, but then so what is the different races? Latino is not a race, its a culture. Thats what im sayin. So do latinos not recognize race, or what, but I dont think thats true cause I talked to afro-latinos who said they got treated like shit by mestizos and white latinos, and they show some of that shit in latin movies and so on.
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Postby BxxMILITIA » October 31st, 2006, 10:28 pm

i said hispanic, i kno latino is the culture, we already established that....its all gravy tho..dont matter....
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Postby rocstar » October 31st, 2006, 10:56 pm

:roll: There are Black Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Brazilians etc. Just because you are Hispanic don't mean you're not Black. Some got dropped off in the States, most got dropped off in Latin Countries but we all came from the same place. You mixed with some of the people from your Island, we mixed with some of the people from our land. Some Blacks speak broken english, some speak spanish and some speak with an English accent. Almost all of us are descendents from the same area of Africa.

And it's not an opinion it's a fact and it's sad that people either don't know it or disavow their own heritage.
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Postby oldsschool666 » November 1st, 2006, 11:16 am

MiChuhSuh wrote:Well the southern halp of America along with much of the west was "Mexican".... but then the Natives that called it there home didn't like the Aztecs either, which is part of the three major reasons it was so easy for Cortes to conquer the Aztecs, they were the most hated group since they were the conquerors (I guess like America and specifically white America today).

The tribes like the Navajo, Cherokee, Irquois, and all the other Natives that are living here in crappy reservations should get first pickings, they were more direct, and don't forget, a lot of "Mexicans" are more Spanish than Indian


"More Spanish"! Thats bs textbook history. You ever been to Mexico?? I suggest you go an see all the spaniards there..
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Postby oldsschool666 » November 1st, 2006, 11:17 am

UmanH-ay wrote:ahhh so i see, theres a mix of white and black in the bloodline, didnt the spanish wipe out the natives on the island of hispaniloa?

thats what it looks like
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Postby oldsschool666 » November 1st, 2006, 11:18 am

boston312 wrote:
hamo_uce wrote:PRESIDENTE FOX of MEXICO is really half SAMOAN on his ,
mothers side eg: MARIA TO'OMALATAI FA'ALEAFAGA frm , MAOTA . WESTERN SAMOA married to JORGE VALENCIA FOX of ,
MONTERREY , MEXICO.....................


This is the first time I ever heard of this. I was told that Fox was European, I think British or French (hence the name Fox). Never heard of his mother being Somoan
that fools half irish
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Postby NICKELS » November 2nd, 2006, 11:56 pm

perongregory wrote:Your hispanic but your black, or white, or asian. Whats so hard to figure out about that? White people came to the island, Africans were brought to the island a lot of #%@&#%@ went on, some didn't mix really and retained mostly one race, but you all took on Spanish culture (language and shit) so just cause you took on Spanish culture all of a sudden all the indio and black blood goes out the window? Doesn't work like that. I guess if blacks came and conquered an island and forced the nativesto take on black culture i guess those natives would be black then even if they were white as snow. I guess hte blacks in Lousiana that still have ties to the French that were there and speak that #%@& up French and other French culture are not black, but French. What you saying dont make sense. So what if you eat rice and beans and speak Spanish, it dont make you a race, it just shows what culture you're apart of, not your racial makeup.


very true perongreory........you know your shit !!

hispanic/latino is a culture not a race , hispanic/latino is made up of different races : WHITES , BLACKS , NATIVOS , ASIANS , & MIXED PEOPLES OF THOSE RACIAL DESCENT OF ANY OF THOSE FOUR RACES wich cause different shade of skin colour...the mixed people are mostly the confused ones on what race they are , thats > CELIA CRUZ and BRAZILIANS and others who let you know there BLACK/AFRICAN and the music & dance they do was brought from africa to ...the islands and south america and there different from white and nativo hispanic/latinos culture

ricky ricardo was a " white hispanic/latino" from cuba who played the conga drum created by africans....hes not black hes of spanish descent but he learned the african drum because his islands " adopted " culture a blend of 3 races.

american/english is a culture not a race :WHITES , NATIVOS , BLACKS ...now in the present day all races & nationalities

EACH RACE OF PEOPLE BRING SOMETHING TO THE CULTURE...JUST SOME BRING MORE THAN OTHERS ..AND THE CONQURER ALMOST ALWAYS CONTROL LANGUAGE OR NAME CHANGE.
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Postby ManifestTruth » November 3rd, 2006, 6:37 pm

Ignorance is bliss and so on...

I get asked if I'm Dominican on the regular and that in itself says everything about who "we" are. Peron, you baked that knowledge
cake and Nickels iced it up righteously..

I'm a CT nukka, I aint Black, ya heard?! Whatever..
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Postby NICKELS » November 4th, 2006, 12:14 am

manifest truth = thanks homeboy.
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Postby Silencioso » November 4th, 2006, 2:18 pm

There was a Puert Rican gang in East Hollywood called King Cobras - KxC. Nobody tried to wipe them out for being Ricans. They were cholos and fit right into the L.A. gang scene. They were obsorbed into 18th eventually.
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Postby NICKELS » November 5th, 2006, 8:27 pm

Silencioso wrote:There was a Puert Rican gang in East Hollywood called King Cobras - KxC. Nobody tried to wipe them out for being Ricans. They were cholos and fit right into the L.A. gang scene. They were obsorbed into 18th eventually.


i believe that ricans blending right in with 18th no denying that.
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Postby gina » November 16th, 2006, 9:33 pm

well there has always been problems between puerto ricans and mexicans mainly because ignorant people think that everyone whom speaks spanish comes from Mexico that why most have a little grudge against Mexicans
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Postby NICKELS » November 17th, 2006, 12:10 am

you cant blame mexicans they were here first .....and there all over , its only natural. i remeber when italians and puertoricans didnt get along , and back in the days they even looked alike !? now thats funny.
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Postby Lonewolf » November 17th, 2006, 10:02 pm

Silencioso wrote:There was a Puert Rican gang in East Hollywood called King Cobras - KxC. Nobody tried to wipe them out for being Ricans. They were cholos and fit right into the L.A. gang scene. They were obsorbed into 18th eventually.


Ey SILEN'SOCIO, you sure they weren't WS VKKR?
Tu sabes, in their early tiempos on the West Side
they got along with WS Dieciocho and beefed with
PxF and FTR.
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Postby Silencioso » November 18th, 2006, 3:09 pm

No, Lonewolf, it wasn't Varrio KK Rifa it was the King and Queen Cobras (note spelling difference) a Puerto Rican gang in E Hollywood or maybe Mid City. They weren't a very big gang, they were known mostly because they were the only PR gang in L.A. and people thought they were from New York! LOL

They were straight cholos, though, and the Queen Cobras were as tough as the guys. Some went to L.A. High School. They were in the same basic area as W/S Playboys and W/S 18th.
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Postby TeeKay » November 18th, 2006, 6:28 pm

i dunno bout them bein the only gang there, what about that gang PRF, Puerto rican fellas in lynwood, they were makin some noise.
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Postby Lonewolf » November 21st, 2006, 9:12 pm

Silencioso wrote:No, Lonewolf, it wasn't Varrio KK Rifa it was the King and Queen Cobras (note spelling difference) a Puerto Rican gang in E Hollywood or maybe Mid City. They weren't a very big gang, they were known mostly because they were the only PR gang in L.A. and people thought they were from New York! LOL

They were straight cholos, though, and the Queen Cobras were as tough as the guys. Some went to L.A. High School. They were in the same basic area as W/S Playboys and W/S 18th.


Ey gracias for the "set straight" 8)
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Postby Sentenza » November 21st, 2006, 11:52 pm

^^^So you are still alive Lonewolf? :lol: :wink:
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Postby Lonewolf » November 22nd, 2006, 4:15 pm

Ey AW, what it is with you? . . . All good on my side.

Ey, what about in the Boxing world between Mexican
and Puerto Rican fighters >> those match ups are
always good cards to watch.
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Postby NICKELS » November 24th, 2006, 1:01 am

the mexicans dominate boxing for latinos ,over other hispanics .
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Postby looneytunes1 » November 24th, 2006, 1:08 am

NICKELS wrote:the mexicans dominate boxing for latinos ,over other hispanics


naw, theirs just more of them is all.

Trinidad > De La Hoya
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Postby NICKELS » November 24th, 2006, 2:10 am

true and they got way more titile holders.......there tough.
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Postby NORTHBOUND99 » November 29th, 2006, 7:41 am

looneytunes1 wrote:
NICKELS wrote:the mexicans dominate boxing for latinos ,over other hispanics


naw, theirs just more of them is all.

Trinidad > De La Hoya


fock up rican the le hoya> trinifag
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Postby perongregory » November 29th, 2006, 10:29 am

black latino fighters put it down the best.
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Postby ManifestTruth » November 29th, 2006, 4:19 pm

Black Latino fighters put it down the best??? Word, name me a couple..
Stylistically so that maybe true but in terms of records and achievements no one can discount Latino fighers, regardless of bloodlines:

Salvador Sanchez, Bazooka Limon, Julio Cesar Chavez, The Marquez Bros, Marco Antonio Barrera, Carlos Zarate, Erik Morales, Jose Luis Castillo, there's so many awesome fighters coming out and who've come out of Mexico cant name them all. Granted these are all lighter weight fighters.

That Argentine dude Carlos Monzon ran the middleweights in the 70's, had
the record for successive title defenses til Bernard Hopkins broke it.

Roberto Duran was one of the best fighters of any weight class in my opinion. Just a ferocious, badass cat right there.

Oscar was schooling Tito, should've stayed in the pocket rather than get on his tricycle, would've wont he fight easily..

Tito Trinidad, Wilfred Benitez, Teofilio Stevenson(Cubano heavy, owned
dudes for like, three Olympics, never turned pro, didnt want to defect), Joel Casamayor, Kid Gavilan just to name a few badass Afro Latino fighers..
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Postby andrew » May 20th, 2007, 8:18 pm

all us latinos......come in all sizes shapes and colors
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