God does exist. and 6 reasons why.

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God does exist. and 6 reasons why.

Postby SniperSVD » December 6th, 2006, 10:55 am

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1. Does God exist? Throughout history, in all cultures of the world, people have been convinced there is a God. Billions of people, who represent diverse sociological, intellectual, emotional, educational makeups...believe that there is a Creator, a God to be worshipped. Now, the fact that so many people believe something certainly doesn't make it true. But when so many people through the ages are so personally convinced that God exists, can one say with absolute confidence that they are all mistaken?
2. Does God exist? The complexity of our planet points to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today.
3. Does God exist? Mere "chance" is not an adequate explanation of creation.
4. Does God exist? Humankind's inherent sense of right and wrong cannot be biologically explained.
5. Does God exist? God not only has revealed Himself in what can be observed in nature, and in human life, but He has even more specifically shown Himself in the Bible.
6. Does God exist? Unlike any other revelation of God, Jesus Christ is the clearest, most specific picture of God.
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Re: God does exist. and 6 reasons why.

Postby A Ghost » December 6th, 2006, 11:52 am

SniperSVD wrote:1. Does God exist? Throughout history, in all cultures of the world, people have been convinced there is a God. Billions of people, who represent diverse sociological, intellectual, emotional, educational makeups...believe that there is a Creator, a God to be worshipped. Now, the fact that so many people believe something certainly doesn't make it true. But when so many people through the ages are so personally convinced that God exists, can one say with absolute confidence that they are all mistaken?


People created the ideology of God to explain their own existance. Would you go on living your life if you were a mistake and were never meant to exist?

SniperSVD wrote:2. Does God exist? The complexity of our planet points to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today.


How many other planets are out there that have absolutely no life on them? We are the only planet that humans know of that currently has life on it. Not only that but they found fossilized remains of life on Mars. Did God create life on Mars? And if he did then why did he feel so free to kill it all off at the biological level?

If there is a planet in the universe that can sustain life then it will. Nobody will ever know how life started but it has to be physical. Thats like saying my car just started because I thought about it.

SniperSVD wrote:3. Does God exist? Mere "chance" is not an adequate explanation of creation.


Then what is? Some magical invisible cloud being that thinks about things and makes them happen? You are telling me that one being was able to create an infinite universe? That one being is able to keep track of Trillions of creatures and planets?


SniperSVD wrote:4. Does God exist? Humankind's inherent sense of right and wrong cannot be biologically explained.


Humans have something called pure animal instinct. The only reason humans ever survived anything is because they are the most adabtable and skillful creatures on the planet. It doesnt make sense to kill each other off when you should be reproducing and growing.


SniperSVD wrote:5. Does God exist? God not only has revealed Himself in what can be observed in nature, and in human life, but He has even more specifically shown Himself in the Bible.
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Where has he revealed himself? Can you positively prove to me that "he" has shown up somewhere and said "I am God" "I created everything"

Did God created genocide and ghettos? Tell me where God is when everyone is slaughtering each other and living in bombed out houses.

The bible? You have got to be kidding me. The bible???

The bible was written when the world was flat and weather patterns like Earthquakes and Tornadoes were done by numerous very pissed off Gods because they were upset some broad who didnt get her cherry popped needed to be sacrificed.

SniperSVD wrote:6. Does God exist? Unlike any other revelation of God, Jesus Christ is the clearest, most specific picture of God.


Jesus never said he was God, show me where he ever said he was God. Yes he did exist I can give you that but he never said he was God. He always told people that called him God, or the King that he never said that. The people assumed that.
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Postby NYTE_RYDA » December 6th, 2006, 6:40 pm

^^^damn homie yo ass stay tryna prove there aint no GOD you got some issues homie, but thats your belief and i cant hate on that...
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Postby A Ghost » December 6th, 2006, 7:19 pm

NYTE_RYDA wrote:^^^damn homie yo ass stay tryna prove there aint no GOD you got some issues homie, but thats your belief and i cant hate on that...


If you feel like Im wrong go ahead and let me know and tell me your opinion, (no diss)




LOL @ Issues, everyone has issues, I just speak my mind
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Re: God does exist. and 6 reasons why.

Postby 'X' » December 6th, 2006, 8:25 pm

A Ghost wrote:
SniperSVD wrote:6. Does God exist? Unlike any other revelation of God, Jesus Christ is the clearest, most specific picture of God.


Jesus never said he was God, show me where he ever said he was God. Yes he did exist I can give you that but he never said he was God. He always told people that called him God, or the King that he never said that. The people assumed that.


Good response ghost, I been waiting for numerous people to show me in clear words where Jesus said he was Thee God and was worthy of worship, and that one is to pray to him, but normally most folk start coming up with way out explanations and twisted interpretations. Matter of fact can someone show me where Jesus claimed a religion called Christianity? Jesus always deflected the praise that was given to him.
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Re: God does exist. and 6 reasons why.

Postby A Ghost » December 6th, 2006, 8:29 pm

'X' wrote:
A Ghost wrote:
SniperSVD wrote:6. Does God exist? Unlike any other revelation of God, Jesus Christ is the clearest, most specific picture of God.


Jesus never said he was God, show me where he ever said he was God. Yes he did exist I can give you that but he never said he was God. He always told people that called him God, or the King that he never said that. The people assumed that.


Good response ghost, I been waiting for numerous people to show me in clear words where Jesus said he was Thee God and was worthy of worship, and that one is to pray to him, but normally most folk start coming up with way out explanations and twisted interpretations. Matter of fact can someone show me where Jesus claimed a religion called Christianity? Jesus always deflected the praise that was given to him.


You wanna hear the funny thing? I was a die hard Christian
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Re: God does exist. and 6 reasons why.

Postby 'X' » December 6th, 2006, 8:39 pm

A Ghost wrote:
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A Ghost wrote:
SniperSVD wrote:6. Does God exist? Unlike any other revelation of God, Jesus Christ is the clearest, most specific picture of God.


Jesus never said he was God, show me where he ever said he was God. Yes he did exist I can give you that but he never said he was God. He always told people that called him God, or the King that he never said that. The people assumed that.


Good response ghost, I been waiting for numerous people to show me in clear words where Jesus said he was Thee God and was worthy of worship, and that one is to pray to him, but normally most folk start coming up with way out explanations and twisted interpretations. Matter of fact can someone show me where Jesus claimed a religion called Christianity? Jesus always deflected the praise that was given to him.


You wanna hear the funny thing? I was a die hard Christian


On the real that doesn't surprise me, I was raised so-called baptist, but when one take even a little time to do some research the truth eventually comes to light, some though take the easy way out and just settle on "how they were raised"...I know I went off topic but this quote I posted a couple of times on here reminds me sort of what you said and how you changed your beliefs...


-From: The Browder File- Anthony T. Browder/ "22 Essays on The African American Experience"

"You are the sum total of all your beliefs, and your beliefs are always subject to change as your knowledge base expands. Most people refuse to accept a new belief simply because it contradicts their present belief system... "


"To continue to believe in a proven falsehood is detrimental to the believer. One must never be afraid to evaluate new information and accept it if it is proven to be true. People fear, instability, therefore it is natural for them to resist the destruction of their old belief system until they have an accaptable belief system to replace the old one. "


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Postby NYTE_RYDA » December 6th, 2006, 8:41 pm

something musta happened, you just don't go from that to being a straight out atheist, spreadin all that BS all over the place
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Re: God does exist. and 6 reasons why.

Postby A Ghost » December 6th, 2006, 8:43 pm

'X' wrote:
A Ghost wrote:
'X' wrote:
A Ghost wrote:
SniperSVD wrote:6. Does God exist? Unlike any other revelation of God, Jesus Christ is the clearest, most specific picture of God.


Jesus never said he was God, show me where he ever said he was God. Yes he did exist I can give you that but he never said he was God. He always told people that called him God, or the King that he never said that. The people assumed that.


Good response ghost, I been waiting for numerous people to show me in clear words where Jesus said he was Thee God and was worthy of worship, and that one is to pray to him, but normally most folk start coming up with way out explanations and twisted interpretations. Matter of fact can someone show me where Jesus claimed a religion called Christianity? Jesus always deflected the praise that was given to him.


You wanna hear the funny thing? I was a die hard Christian


On the real that doesn't surprise me, I was raised so-called baptist, but when one take even a little time to do some research the truth eventually comes to light, some though take the easy way out and just settle on "how they were raised"...I know I went off topic but this quote I posted a couple of times on here reminds me sort of what you said and how you changed your beliefs...


-From: The Browder File- Anthony T. Browder/ "22 Essays on The African American Experience"

"You are the sum total of all your beliefs, and your beliefs are always subject to change as your knowledge base expands. Most people refuse to accept a new belief simply because it contradicts their present belief system... "


"To continue to believe in a proven falsehood is detrimental to the believer. One must never be afraid to evaluate new information and accept it if it is proven to be true. People fear, instability, therefore it is natural for them to resist the destruction of their old belief system until they have an accaptable belief system to replace the old one. "


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Postby johnnny » December 6th, 2006, 8:44 pm

i believe in one god whatever his name is, i respect him and the lord knows it, do i pray to him? no i help out other people instead thats the way i pray :D - laugh if u want
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Postby A Ghost » December 6th, 2006, 8:47 pm

NYTE_RYDA wrote:something musta happened, you just don't go from that to being a straight out atheist, spreadin all that BS all over the place


Its like X just posted, I got older and learned more and more, plus I see how the world is and how people live.




First hand, this was the first time In my life that I saw 2-3 people shot, (I saw when the ambulances showed up)

Theres no reason for people to live like this.

But dont think shootings are the only thing that made me change my mind, thats a percent of a percentage, like I said, X's post makes a lot of sense, to me at least.
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Re: God does exist. and 6 reasons why.

Postby RuthlessCray » December 6th, 2006, 8:57 pm

'X' wrote:"You are the sum total of all your beliefs, and your beliefs are always subject to change as your knowledge base expands. Most people refuse to accept a new belief simply because it contradicts their present belief system... "


"To continue to believe in a proven falsehood is detrimental to the believer. One must never be afraid to evaluate new information and accept it if it is proven to be true. People fear, instability, therefore it is natural for them to resist the destruction of their old belief system until they have an accaptable belief system to replace the old one. "




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I like how that was put...nothing worse than someone stuck in one narrow minded way of thinking and not willing to look at new information because it don't go along with thier old belief. Not just religion but other subjects too.
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Re: God does exist. and 6 reasons why.

Postby A Ghost » December 6th, 2006, 9:01 pm

'X' wrote:
A Ghost wrote:
'X' wrote:
A Ghost wrote:
SniperSVD wrote:6. Does God exist? Unlike any other revelation of God, Jesus Christ is the clearest, most specific picture of God.


Jesus never said he was God, show me where he ever said he was God. Yes he did exist I can give you that but he never said he was God. He always told people that called him God, or the King that he never said that. The people assumed that.


Good response ghost, I been waiting for numerous people to show me in clear words where Jesus said he was Thee God and was worthy of worship, and that one is to pray to him, but normally most folk start coming up with way out explanations and twisted interpretations. Matter of fact can someone show me where Jesus claimed a religion called Christianity? Jesus always deflected the praise that was given to him.


You wanna hear the funny thing? I was a die hard Christian


On the real that doesn't surprise me, I was raised so-called baptist, but when one take even a little time to do some research the truth eventually comes to light, some though take the easy way out and just settle on "how they were raised"...I know I went off topic but this quote I posted a couple of times on here reminds me sort of what you said and how you changed your beliefs...


-From: The Browder File- Anthony T. Browder/ "22 Essays on The African American Experience"

"You are the sum total of all your beliefs, and your beliefs are always subject to change as your knowledge base expands. Most people refuse to accept a new belief simply because it contradicts their present belief system... "


"To continue to believe in a proven falsehood is detrimental to the believer. One must never be afraid to evaluate new information and accept it if it is proven to be true. People fear, instability, therefore it is natural for them to resist the destruction of their old belief system until they have an accaptable belief system to replace the old one. "


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really though this is a good ass post
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Re: God does exist. and 6 reasons why.

Postby 'X' » December 6th, 2006, 9:06 pm

Inland Empire wrote:
'X' wrote:"You are the sum total of all your beliefs, and your beliefs are always subject to change as your knowledge base expands. Most people refuse to accept a new belief simply because it contradicts their present belief system... "


"To continue to believe in a proven falsehood is detrimental to the believer. One must never be afraid to evaluate new information and accept it if it is proven to be true. People fear, instability, therefore it is natural for them to resist the destruction of their old belief system until they have an accaptable belief system to replace the old one. "




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I like how that was put...nothing worse than someone stuck in one narrow minded way of thinking and not willing to look at new information because it don't go along with thier old belief. Not just religion but other subjects too.



Exactly, I believe this quote can be true in many regards, not just religion..As you said I.E., narrow mindedness I believe is a big problem with alot of people.
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Re: God does exist. and 6 reasons why.

Postby A Ghost » December 6th, 2006, 9:11 pm

'X' wrote:
Inland Empire wrote:
'X' wrote:"You are the sum total of all your beliefs, and your beliefs are always subject to change as your knowledge base expands. Most people refuse to accept a new belief simply because it contradicts their present belief system... "


"To continue to believe in a proven falsehood is detrimental to the believer. One must never be afraid to evaluate new information and accept it if it is proven to be true. People fear, instability, therefore it is natural for them to resist the destruction of their old belief system until they have an accaptable belief system to replace the old one. "



Peace


I like how that was put...nothing worse than someone stuck in one narrow minded way of thinking and not willing to look at new information because it don't go along with thier old belief. Not just religion but other subjects too.



Exactly, I believe this quote can be true in many regards, not just religion..As you said I.E., narrow mindedness I believe is a big problem with alot of people.



I saw a movie and I think it was called "Straight outta Brooklyn" and at the very end it said the first things learned are the hardest to forget.

Whats your opinion?
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Postby johnnny » December 6th, 2006, 9:18 pm

johnnny wrote:i believe in one god whatever his name is, i respect him and the lord knows it, do i pray to him? no i help out other people instead thats the way i pray :D - laugh if u want


If you guys are talking about written scriptures usually being BS, then i agree, i dont need no book to show me how to be a good guy
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Re: God does exist. and 6 reasons why.

Postby 'X' » December 6th, 2006, 9:21 pm

A Ghost wrote:
'X' wrote:
Inland Empire wrote:
'X' wrote:"You are the sum total of all your beliefs, and your beliefs are always subject to change as your knowledge base expands. Most people refuse to accept a new belief simply because it contradicts their present belief system... "


"To continue to believe in a proven falsehood is detrimental to the believer. One must never be afraid to evaluate new information and accept it if it is proven to be true. People fear, instability, therefore it is natural for them to resist the destruction of their old belief system until they have an accaptable belief system to replace the old one. "



Peace


I like how that was put...nothing worse than someone stuck in one narrow minded way of thinking and not willing to look at new information because it don't go along with thier old belief. Not just religion but other subjects too.



Exactly, I believe this quote can be true in many regards, not just religion..As you said I.E., narrow mindedness I believe is a big problem with alot of people.



I saw a movie and I think it was called "Straight outta Brooklyn" and at the very end it said the first things learned are the hardest to forget.

Whats your opinion?


Thats real right there, after learning alot of things I now know, it took me a minute to shake off the "traditional" things that were ingraved in my thinking, from holidays, religions, history, race and some other things, but after getting locked up I chosed to take the time to challenge myself and study myself, and the things that were important to me, and after doing that I found out that what I was believing in was alot of bs, but I dont fault my parents, they taught me what they we're taught as most parents do, but it ends with me, I now teach my little one's the truth....(kind of off topic, I know)
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Re: God does exist. and 6 reasons why.

Postby A Ghost » December 6th, 2006, 9:32 pm

'X' wrote:
A Ghost wrote:
'X' wrote:
Inland Empire wrote:
'X' wrote:"You are the sum total of all your beliefs, and your beliefs are always subject to change as your knowledge base expands. Most people refuse to accept a new belief simply because it contradicts their present belief system... "


"To continue to believe in a proven falsehood is detrimental to the believer. One must never be afraid to evaluate new information and accept it if it is proven to be true. People fear, instability, therefore it is natural for them to resist the destruction of their old belief system until they have an accaptable belief system to replace the old one. "



Peace


I like how that was put...nothing worse than someone stuck in one narrow minded way of thinking and not willing to look at new information because it don't go along with thier old belief. Not just religion but other subjects too.



Exactly, I believe this quote can be true in many regards, not just religion..As you said I.E., narrow mindedness I believe is a big problem with alot of people.



I saw a movie and I think it was called "Straight outta Brooklyn" and at the very end it said the first things learned are the hardest to forget.

Whats your opinion?


Thats real right there, after learning alot of things I now know, it took me a minute to shake off the "traditional" things that were ingraved in my thinking, from holidays, religions, history, race and some other things, but after getting locked up I chosed to take the time to challenge myself and study myself, and the things that were important to me, and after doing that I found out that what I was believing in was alot of bs, but I dont fault my parents, they taught me what they we're taught as most parents do, but it ends with me, I now teach my little one's the truth....(kind of off topic, I know)


8)

Thanks for the response, anyways back to the topic.

I would like to believe that theres something after you die but unfortunately it doesnt seem that way.
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Postby SniperSVD » December 7th, 2006, 11:15 am

prayer is like a calm psyche up, for the wrongs i do i put them in the hands of my father. and the good i do is the return of the deeds. its helps to keep a clear conscience so i don't stay double guessing shit.
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Postby A Ghost » December 8th, 2006, 8:41 pm

You repeated what I said, prayer is a form of meditation that calms people down.

And how about this?

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Where was God as all this is happeneing? ^^^^^^

Maybe he was.......




Chillin with the Pope eating brunch?
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Or maybe he was too busy making sure Tom and Katie got married sone premarital sex is the worst thing on the planet
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Or maybe he was too pissed off at Richard Simmons because he sucks a dick
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Oh wait, I know, he was telling Jerry Falwell why 9/11 happened
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Keep in mind he neded to stay with Falwell because he cant let those snakes bite him on Wednesday night mass........
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