Africans : real stuff

[Sentenza]

The United Nations is the utmost corrupt orginization in the history of man. Ten fold. If you do not agree or believe anything otherwise then you deserve to die, promptly.

I know, they are worth shit. I was just referring to the initial or supposed job of the United Nations. "Uniting Nations" as in spreading peace.

[Sentenza]

SENTENZA I AGREE WITH U ON THE CORRUPT LEADERS , N TRIBAL WARFARE BUT U GOTTA REMEMBER IM NOT EXCUSING IT BUT U GOTTA UNDERSTAND THE EUROPEANS DID ALOT OF BS TO CAUSE THESES THINGS MANIPULATION , USING CERTAIN TRIBES AND FRONTLINES TO KILL AND DESTROY OTHER TRIBES , AND MILLIONS MORE. THE CORRUPT LEADERS I SAY THE PPLZ GOTTA SPEAK UP AND FORCE THOSE PRICKS OUT OF OFFICE.1!!!!

I have these friends from Nigeria and he told me about the situation there. He is convinced, that Nigeria will always be fucked up, cause of all the internal conflicts and corruption. If you speak up against the government, you get murked. Point blank. Nigeria has one of the highest corrption rates in the world. If you should ever donate money to Nigeria, be sure that it will be spent for some ministers limousine instead of schools or building of infrastructure. If you are a southern christian and go up north, you will get harrassed, beaten and maybe also murked, the same goes the other way around.
With so much internal beef Nigeria is not going to go anywhere, even though it might be a rich land with all the ressources and people it has.
But they also have so many languages there, that when you travel from one city to the other people speak a whole different language.
It is impossible to build a flourishing country on these premises.
This counts for 95% of all african countries.
The foreign forces and companies are doing the rest.

[Qdawg]

[quote="Sentenza"][quote="Angryblackman86"]SENTENZA I AGREE WITH U ON THE CORRUPT LEADERS , N TRIBAL WARFARE BUT U GOTTA REMEMBER IM NOT EXCUSING IT BUT U GOTTA UNDERSTAND THE EUROPEANS DID ALOT OF BS TO CAUSE THESES THINGS MANIPULATION , USING CERTAIN TRIBES AND FRONTLINES TO KILL AND DESTROY OTHER TRIBES , AND MILLIONS MORE. THE CORRUPT LEADERS I SAY THE PPLZ GOTTA SPEAK UP AND FORCE THOSE PRICKS OUT OF OFFICE.1!!!![/quote]

I have these friends from Nigeria and he told me about the situation there. He is convinced, that Nigeria will always be #%@& up, cause of all the internal conflicts and corruption. If you speak up against the government, you get murked. Point blank. Nigeria has one of the highest corrption rates in the world. If you should ever donate money to Nigeria, be sure that it will be spent for some ministers limousine instead of schools or building of infrastructure. If you are a southern christian and go up north, you will get harrassed, beaten and maybe also murked, the same goes the other way around.
With so much internal beef Nigeria is not going to go anywhere, even though it might be a rich land with all the ressources and people it has.
But they also have so many languages there, that when you travel from one city to the other people speak a whole different language.
It is impossible to build a flourishing country on these premises.
This counts for 95% of all african countries.
The foreign forces and companies are doing the rest.[/quote]

i feel that@ "nigeria will always be f*cked up"

[perongregory]

Nigeria won't always be fucked up cause it hasn't always been, Africans been had fuedal states on the land regulating people even with 50 diff. ass tribes. Only when the Europeans came with their greediness and trickery do we see shit totally go out of hand and Africans not be able to do simple shit they did 1000's of years ago.

[Sentenza]

Nigeria won't always be #%@& up cause it hasn't always been, Africans been had fuedal states on the land regulating people even with 50 diff. ass tribes. Only when the Europeans came with their greediness and trickery do we see shit totally go out of hand and Africans not be able to do simple shit they did 1000's of years ago.

Yea i told him that aswell, but cant convince him.
I think what they need is another Lumumba and they need to go through a hard time of cleaning up the mess in Nigeria.
Which is a very difficult task. Religious conflicts, tribal rivalry, corruption etc. How can one get a hold of that, when its rampant?

[Qdawg]

In Somalia, 'the clock is ticking toward war'
Tensions are escalating rapidly between government, Islamists
Originally published December 14, 2006

MANAS, SOMALIA // Wearing purple flip flops, oversized trousers and a T-shirt, Osman Ali holds a gun that is almost as big as he is.

Ali, who says he is 25 but looks to be in his teens, is one of hundreds of fighters being hastily trained by Somalia's government as it faces off with the country's increasingly powerful Islamic movement.

"I have come to fight Islamic extremists and al-Qaida," Ali says while nervously fingering the trigger of an AK-47 -- the weapon of choice in this violent African nation once again sliding toward war. There are fears it could take the whole region with it, with traditional rivals in neighboring Eritrea and Ethiopia backing opposing sides in Somalia and weapons flowing in from several countries.

The Islamic movement controls much of southern Somalia and has now circled Baidoa, one of the few towns the government holds. The U.N.-backed government says the group harbors foreign fighters allied to Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network, and wants to establish an Islamic fundamentalist state.

"Morale is very high and we are ready to fight," the government's military commander, Maj. Gen. Ismail Naji, said while watching training at the Manas military camp near Dinsor, one of the front lines. "The clock is ticking toward war."

The crackle of automatic gunfire echoed around him as recruits in crisp, sand-colored uniforms performed target practice and drilled on vintage artillery guns. Others waiting to undergo training stood in line in torn clothes and flip flops. All receive food in place of pay.

In Baidoa, 30 miles to the northwest of the camp, checkpoints have been set up after two suicide car bomb attacks. Heavily armed soldiers aboard pickup trucks mounted with anti-aircraft guns whizz through the squalid streets and past the scars of other battles that have left much of the city in ruins.

Known as the "City of Death," a title earned in 1992 when famine and war left thousands dying in the streets, it now serves as the government's capital. Parliament is held in a former grain silo and the city, with 70,000 people, lacks clean water or regular electricity.

"When this battle starts it will be a fight to the finish," General Mohamed Warsame said. Small skirmishes have broken out but there have been no major military encounters.

Somalia has not had an effective government since warlords overthrew longtime dictator Mohamed Siad Barre in 1991, plunging the country into years of anarchy and civil war. The government was formed with the help of the U.N. in 2004 to serve as a transitional body to help the country emerge from war, but it has struggled to assert its authority.

Peace talks with the Islamic group have failed and diplomatic initiatives to get the rival sides back to the negotiating table have yet to bear fruit.

Jennifer Barnes, a spokeswoman at the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi, Kenya, said today the Islamic council was preventing "credible dialogue" between the two sides "through its continued military expansion and aggression" against the government.

Last month, a U.N. arms monitoring group said at least 10 countries were providing weapons, money and training to the rival sides.

Eritrea backs the Islamic group, while Ethiopia supports the government. On Tuesday, the Islamic group said it will attack the government base unless any Ethiopians in Somalia withdraw.

Last week, the U.N. Security Council approved plans to send peacekeepers to protect the government, despite strong opposition from Islamic group. It also authorized the partial lifting of an arms embargo to allow training and weapons for the government army.

The government insists it is holding out hope for peace, but on Tuesday the prime minister told The Associated Press that war was inevitable. He said government forces had prepared defensive positions.

His military officials believe around 4,000 hardened Islamic fighters are dug in on northern, southern and eastern fronts, 40 miles from Baidoa.

Land mines have been laid by Islamic fighters on the city's western outskirts, effectively surrounding the town, said deputy defense minister Salad Ali Jelle.

War would hit an already devastated country. One in five children die before the age of 5 from easily preventable diseases. Most Somalis die before they reach their 50th birthday.

The impoverished nation is struggling to recover from the worst flood season in East Africa in 50 years. At least 230 people have died from floods and related waterborne diseases since October in Kenya, Somalia, Rwanda and Ethiopia, according to the U.N.'s World Food Program.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation ... -headlines

[Mcminister]

africa has alot of problems to deal with.....disease, hunger and poverty afer we over come that then we start dealin with everything else

[Mcminister]

anywayz u niggaz need to peep this...some real african shit

http://www.ina.fr/archivespourtous/inde ... notices=55

[Sentenza]

anywayz u niggaz need to peep this...some real african shit

http://www.ina.fr/archivespourtous/inde ... notices=55

^^^That is fucked up. Anyone recruiting children soldiers should be shot on the spot.

Yesterday i saw a documentary about northern Uganda. There was a boy, who told his story: He was in the woods getting some water and when he came back, his village was burnt down and his mother was lying in their hut shot dead. Then he started searching for his father and saw him lying on the ground outside of the village. He ran crying towards him to pick him up and his legs were blown of by a landmine, cause these so called rebels placed mines all around the dead body. No aint that some shit?
Made me fuckin angry and wanting to beat down one of these coward scumbags.
Someone needs to get a grip of that shit in africa and dont expect europeans or america to do that.

[Qdawg]

^ sentenza ...you cant tell me none of the african countries dont try to recruit children real young...mcminister was like they dont ,i find that hard to believe

[Sentenza]

Well i was saying that they DO recruit children real young "moins de 12 ans" the site said which means younger then 12. That was what my post was referring to. Anyone doing that kind of BS should be shot. Period.

[ChrisF202]

SENTENZA I AGREE WITH U ON THE CORRUPT LEADERS , N TRIBAL WARFARE BUT U GOTTA REMEMBER IM NOT EXCUSING IT BUT U GOTTA UNDERSTAND THE EUROPEANS DID ALOT OF BS TO CAUSE THESES THINGS MANIPULATION , USING CERTAIN TRIBES AND FRONTLINES TO KILL AND DESTROY OTHER TRIBES , AND MILLIONS MORE. THE CORRUPT LEADERS I SAY THE PPLZ GOTTA SPEAK UP AND FORCE THOSE PRICKS OUT OF OFFICE.1!!!!

not really though, the Africans had plenty of men power and guns to repell the europeans they also were alot better immune to disease and heat where the europeans wer elike the atin americans of cortez when they went to Africa. The Africans also gavce away slaves as no europeans forced them really, I still dont get how they could have colinized them considering with all the trading going on the Africans had guns.

The Africans had spears, shields and muskets vs rapid fire bolt action and breech loading rifles, machine guns and cannons. The combined reach of a spear is 3 or 4 feet, the combined reach of a .577/450 Martini-Henry lever action rifle with bayonet is 5.5 feet and the .577/450 grain bullet has the capability to go through 3 or 4 people at once kill them and still have enough force to knock down and seriously wound a 4th or 5th person (hence that caliber being banned in warfare by the Geneva Convention) and a well trained soldier could fire up to 10 rounds per minute.

[ChrisF202]

As for modern Africa; their problem is that the had 2 choices: Choice A was immediate independence and Choice B was wait several years for the colonial powers to finish the UN mandated improvements like roads, hospitals, schools, judicial systems, etc. Africa choose Choice A and as a result dictators like genocidal manic Idi Amin, Mobutu, etc came along and took advantage of the lack of infrastructure, law and order, etc. Look at Mugabe in Zimbabwe/Rhodesia where the people are starving to death because he was an racist idiot and expelled all the White farmers; guess what now hes begging them to come back.

[Sentenza]

As for modern Africa; their problem is that the had 2 choices: Choice A was immediate independence and Choice B was wait several years for the colonial powers to finish the UN mandated improvements like roads, hospitals, schools, judicial systems, etc. Africa choose Choice A

Everyone would have chosen that, cause the colonial powers were behaving like they were in a killing spree towards the africans. Colonial history still gets no love from africans for a reason. Its not like they made up their hatred out of nowhere.

[ChrisF202]

As for modern Africa; their problem is that the had 2 choices: Choice A was immediate independence and Choice B was wait several years for the colonial powers to finish the UN mandated improvements like roads, hospitals, schools, judicial systems, etc. Africa choose Choice A

Everyone would have chosen that, cause the colonial powers were behaving like they were in a killing spree towards the africans. Colonial history still gets no love from africans for a reason. Its not like they made up their hatred out of nowhere.

Well thats why they are a 3rd world shithole and the places like Hong Kong are prosperous 1st world locations.

[johnnny]

i read that i think it was in eithiopie that the government is arming the children to drive back the muslims who are taking over, is this true?

[perongregory]

As for modern Africa; their problem is that the had 2 choices: Choice A was immediate independence and Choice B was wait several years for the colonial powers to finish the UN mandated improvements like roads, hospitals, schools, judicial systems, etc. Africa choose Choice A

Everyone would have chosen that, cause the colonial powers were behaving like they were in a killing spree towards the africans. Colonial history still gets no love from africans for a reason. Its not like they made up their hatred out of nowhere.

Well thats why they are a 3rd world shithole and the places like Hong Kong are prosperous 1st world locations.

haha, bias, lowkey racist shit. Ilove to see the real come out from supposed democratic, free world Westerners.

[Wisdom]

its time for all africans worldwide to wake up & unite & get this money & keep everything black owned in the communitys.alotta races have more unity then static with one another africans cant seem to get off the b.s...in america you have african americans beefing over petty stuff then over in africa they wars make bloods/crips look like childplays...blacks in africa have been fighting cival wars from the 70s,80s to this present day.you also have hunger,terrorism ,poverty out of this world going on over there.it makes people who is less fortunate appreciate what you have when our people in africa barely have clean tap water to drink.african terror gorilla networks terrorizing the weak,kids forced to join armys & train to kill when they only 7 or 8/maybe even younger..things probably would be different if everybody reunite

africa:
kenya
liberia ( been at war since the 80s)
libya
morrocco
nigeria
niger ( where whites got nigger from)
congo
mali
republic of congo
gabon
rwanda
south africa
tanzania
tunisia
uganda
sahara
zambia
zimbabwee
guinea
etc..

i agree with you completely, the idea is a good one. but lets be realistic.. shit just aint gona happen!!

[TeeKay]

As for modern Africa; their problem is that the had 2 choices: Choice A was immediate independence and Choice B was wait several years for the colonial powers to finish the UN mandated improvements like roads, hospitals, schools, judicial systems, etc. Africa choose Choice A

Everyone would have chosen that, cause the colonial powers were behaving like they were in a killing spree towards the africans. Colonial history still gets no love from africans for a reason. Its not like they made up their hatred out of nowhere.

Well thats why they are a 3rd world shithole and the places like Hong Kong are prosperous 1st world locations.

Hong Kong and Kauloon isnt all prosperous, it was quite dirty and hot when i went there, also just to add, its way to damn humid, damn balls was sweatin

[Qdawg]

lol@ "Hong Kong and Kauloon isnt all prosperous, it was quite dirty and hot "

[TeeKay]

well i also meant to add theres a lot of poverty there also, but yeah, hong kong and Macau is the properous cities of china, hong kong is too hot though.

[ChrisF202]

i read that i think it was in eithiopie that the government is arming the children to drive back the muslims who are taking over, is this true?

Good, any enemy of the Muslim savages is a friend in my book.

[ChrisF202]

If the Muslims take over Africa we will see a genocide of levels that will make Hitler look like a saint.

[perongregory]

idiot.

[Sentenza]

i read that i think it was in eithiopie that the government is arming the children to drive back the muslims who are taking over, is this true?

Good, any enemy of the Muslim savages is a friend in my book.

What is good about that? Muslims savages? In my book someone who arms children is a savage, not a member of a certain religion.
That is pure propaganda BS.

[Sentenza]

its time for all africans worldwide to wake up & unite & get this money & keep everything black owned in the communitys.alotta races have more unity then static with one another africans cant seem to get off the b.s...in america you have african americans beefing over petty stuff then over in africa they wars make bloods/crips look like childplays...blacks in africa have been fighting cival wars from the 70s,80s to this present day.you also have hunger,terrorism ,poverty out of this world going on over there.it makes people who is less fortunate appreciate what you have when our people in africa barely have clean tap water to drink.african terror gorilla networks terrorizing the weak,kids forced to join armys & train to kill when they only 7 or 8/maybe even younger..things probably would be different if everybody reunite

africa:
kenya
liberia ( been at war since the 80s)
libya
morrocco
nigeria
niger ( where whites got nigger from)
congo
mali
republic of congo
gabon
rwanda
south africa
tanzania
tunisia
uganda
sahara
zambia
zimbabwee
guinea
etc..

i agree with you completely, the idea is a good one. but lets be realistic.. shit just aint gona happen!!

Its not about uniting Arica, cause africa will never unite. Thats utopic, the continent is too big, too many different languages, religions and ethnicities----> not possible to unite them.
But they might get their shit together. Everyone for himself.

[Sentenza]

As for modern Africa; their problem is that the had 2 choices: Choice A was immediate independence and Choice B was wait several years for the colonial powers to finish the UN mandated improvements like roads, hospitals, schools, judicial systems, etc. Africa choose Choice A

Everyone would have chosen that, cause the colonial powers were behaving like they were in a killing spree towards the africans. Colonial history still gets no love from africans for a reason. Its not like they made up their hatred out of nowhere.

Well thats why they are a 3rd world shithole and the places like Hong Kong are prosperous 1st world locations.

And you realizerd that all these countries first started to prosper, when they kicked the colonial powers out. Not any sooner.

[ChrisF202]

As for modern Africa; their problem is that the had 2 choices: Choice A was immediate independence and Choice B was wait several years for the colonial powers to finish the UN mandated improvements like roads, hospitals, schools, judicial systems, etc. Africa choose Choice A

Everyone would have chosen that, cause the colonial powers were behaving like they were in a killing spree towards the africans. Colonial history still gets no love from africans for a reason. Its not like they made up their hatred out of nowhere.

Well thats why they are a 3rd world shithole and the places like Hong Kong are prosperous 1st world locations.

And you realizerd that all these countries first started to prosper, when they kicked the colonial powers out. Not any sooner.

Africa is not prosperous. 1% of the population owns 99% of the wealth. They have poverty levels that make Rio de Janiero look like God's personal kingdom. People are starving and on top of it all they are running around like idiots slaughtering each other over some pointless tribal/religious/ethnic differences.

Both the UN and several African leaders have admitted Africa was better off under colonial rule and the UN is the most anti colonialist organization on Earth.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3679706.stm

[Sentenza]

I was talking about those places you mentioned. China etc.

[Qdawg]

[quote="Tye"]well i also meant to add theres a lot of poverty there also, but yeah, hong kong and Macau is the properous cities of china, hong kong is too hot though.[/quote]

yeah i would think so@alot proverty.....the government treat they people like guinea pigs@experiment weapons on them

[Mcminister]

not all african countries have child soldiers....child sojlas are them kids who get brained washed and made to hate a certain tribe or type of person and usualy go to places with 30 deep other 8 - 14 year olds and start bustin...not all countries have them..something every country has is lil kids with guns robbin n shootin places up...my aunt told me yesterday in tanzania some kid followed a truck carring money to the bank walked in that bitch killed some banker got the cash ran out shot at popo's and killed some n jst dipped no one will ever kno who did it

its fucked up like that in alot of africa....these white people n arabs come n try to make it seem like no one is shootin to keep tourist comin ..they literaly ignore all the shooting

dont give no africa charity no money because the money goes to the rebels and the rebels make'em child solja's

fuck im high rite now

[Angryblackman86]

I agree with u mcminster all that money goes to rebels and bitch ass niggaz who use the money n resources to terrorize theyre fellow brothaz and sistaz!!